How Charlemagne's Empire Fell

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Kings and Generals' historical animated documentary series on medieval history continues with a video on the collapse of Charlemagne's empire. We will focus on the new state created in the place of the Frankish empire after it fell, with explanations of how France, Italy, Germany, and other regions fared.
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@KingsandGenerals
@KingsandGenerals 2 жыл бұрын
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@LM-pd6wj
@LM-pd6wj 2 жыл бұрын
Make a video about the tocharians please!!!!
@RandomGuy-df1oy
@RandomGuy-df1oy 2 жыл бұрын
I would except at least a brief mention of the Magyar Invasions which were much more dangerous and costly then the Viking raids.
@dipmalyaroy987
@dipmalyaroy987 2 жыл бұрын
make a video on triparty struggle
@fatfrankthepeteacher4237
@fatfrankthepeteacher4237 2 жыл бұрын
MAKE VIDEO ABOUT MUGHAL EMPIRE IT IS SO EPIC AND INTERESTING. You need more indian!!!!
@eduardoperez3855
@eduardoperez3855 2 жыл бұрын
Europe is good and all that but where Is indian history?
@kirkvander897
@kirkvander897 2 жыл бұрын
Charlemagne clearly didn't rush Primogeniture inheritance laws in order to preserve his empire.
@johntitor1256
@johntitor1256 2 жыл бұрын
He would have, but that scheming wretch Glitterhoof advised against it.
@gaiusjuliuspleaser
@gaiusjuliuspleaser 2 жыл бұрын
Or embarked on campaign of targeted eugenics to breed super-nobles.
@barbiquearea
@barbiquearea 2 жыл бұрын
The original Sarlic Law mandated that lands were to be divided equally as inheritance among a king's sons.
@princeps8980
@princeps8980 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe he should have choose celibacy or let unecessary son die in battle.
@wiedzmin8204
@wiedzmin8204 2 жыл бұрын
@@barbiquearea You dont know what they are talking about do you
@TeamTwiistz
@TeamTwiistz 2 жыл бұрын
Literally the most counter-productive governmental system I've ever heard of.
@mathgasm8484
@mathgasm8484 2 жыл бұрын
Looks like my ck3 game when I have succession issues.
@pierren___
@pierren___ 2 жыл бұрын
And the salic law ruled that question centuries before, giving the political supremacy To the first heir.
@ramiromen6595
@ramiromen6595 2 жыл бұрын
On their defense logistics would have made most empires pretty difficult to defend if your ruler wasn't that capable (Louis the Pious is a good example); i mean even the Romans who were the gods of logistics had their empire split eventually. I won't deny the problems it creates though
@mosesracal6758
@mosesracal6758 2 жыл бұрын
Just imagine if this continued for decades, the empire will fall into individual barns lmao
@TeamTwiistz
@TeamTwiistz 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine if Rome, Persia, Egypt, Macedon... if literally any other empire did this. lol no wonder Rome wasn't recreated.
@Selvionus
@Selvionus 2 жыл бұрын
"The Carolingians weren't as good at blinding family members as the Byzantines, and Bernarnd Died" Byzantines: "Hah, damn amateurs"
@Barwasser
@Barwasser 2 жыл бұрын
how do you get good at blinding people? ...asking for a friend...
@Selvionus
@Selvionus 2 жыл бұрын
@@Barwasser Well you see, through practice, meaning you just need a lot of family members to depose and blind them afterwards.
@Barwasser
@Barwasser 2 жыл бұрын
@@Selvionus sounds about right xD
@MrAizatazmi
@MrAizatazmi 2 жыл бұрын
Noobs
@Barwasser
@Barwasser 2 жыл бұрын
@@MrAizatazmi don't wanna be a pro, tbh
@phillip7731
@phillip7731 2 жыл бұрын
When you haven't researched partition in CK3 yet so every son gets an empire.
@gluttonousmanu2725
@gluttonousmanu2725 2 жыл бұрын
CK3?
@Daniel-tr6qo
@Daniel-tr6qo 2 жыл бұрын
@@gluttonousmanu2725 crusader kings 3. Very fun grand strategy game. Although, in my opinion late game mechanics should be more fine tuned for replayability
@cjaquino28
@cjaquino28 2 жыл бұрын
Which is why every player hates confederate partition.
@phillip7731
@phillip7731 2 жыл бұрын
@@cjaquino28 The trick is to expand into other empires barely until you reach the county limit to create an empire and then just stop expanding in that direction so your empire doesn't fall apart lol
@njb1126
@njb1126 2 жыл бұрын
Still stuck with gavelkind?
@abcdef27669
@abcdef27669 2 жыл бұрын
Ottomans seeing the Carolingean Empire getting divided: "This is why we kill princes, when we have too many of them".
@stormbringer2840
@stormbringer2840 2 жыл бұрын
Who would've thought it was actually the sensible thing to do ?
@ben5056
@ben5056 2 жыл бұрын
and 2 is too many
@minatodroger7890
@minatodroger7890 2 жыл бұрын
Man when the ottomans had it right in succession huh
@MariaCorrea-mr2gy
@MariaCorrea-mr2gy 2 жыл бұрын
Kinda. The Ottomans didn't have salic law, but had a civil war instead. They realized that harem is good and all to ensure a new sultan, but too many possible sultans are an issue for stability.
@shehryarashraf5840
@shehryarashraf5840 2 жыл бұрын
Also Ottoman Fratricide ended in the early 1600s, correlating with the decline in the Empire.
@YiannissB.
@YiannissB. 2 жыл бұрын
“How charlemagne’s empire fell” Short answer: Charlemagne died...
@ylh2019
@ylh2019 2 жыл бұрын
Slightly longer answer: Charlemagne died and Gavelkind succession law.
@yonathanrakau1783
@yonathanrakau1783 2 жыл бұрын
@@ylh2019 shorter answer: no primagenature
@astraldeath_
@astraldeath_ 2 жыл бұрын
That's literally the best answer one can give to this question
@DiscothecaImperialis
@DiscothecaImperialis 2 жыл бұрын
@@yonathanrakau1783 Primogeniture was concieved AFTER the fall of Carolingians I think. By that time, Barbarian traditions did showly faded away and became Medieval ways I think.
@yonathanrakau1783
@yonathanrakau1783 2 жыл бұрын
@@DiscothecaImperialis why did anyone even think of gavelkind in the 1st place
@masterplokoon8803
@masterplokoon8803 2 жыл бұрын
Carolingians:" Can't properly blind a family member to advance their political agenda" Empress Irene:" Pathetic"
@ianhovenden5068
@ianhovenden5068 2 жыл бұрын
Did she blind a lot of people I know the byzantines did that a lot but on that large of a scale ?
@TrololzillaOG
@TrololzillaOG 2 жыл бұрын
@@ianhovenden5068 She blinded her own son so she could remain in power lol.
@masterplokoon8803
@masterplokoon8803 2 жыл бұрын
@@ianhovenden5068 she was the regent of her son but when he came of age she didn't want to give up power so there was a power strugle and she blinded him to make him unfit to be Emperor. Blinding people to prevent them from gaining power happened sometimes in the middle ages.
@JohnCena-cy3re
@JohnCena-cy3re 2 жыл бұрын
Didn't her attempt to blind her son result in him also dying by accident?
@masterplokoon8803
@masterplokoon8803 2 жыл бұрын
@@JohnCena-cy3re he died in prison and there weren't really negative consequences for her from that while the Frankish Emperor had to do penance and his position was weakened.
@istvansipos9940
@istvansipos9940 2 жыл бұрын
- He is a great ruler. Something epic must end his reign. A heroic battle, an evil assassin or a... - A fever. - yeah... Or a fever.
@KingsandGenerals
@KingsandGenerals 2 жыл бұрын
Hunting incident?
@dr0g_Oakblood
@dr0g_Oakblood 2 жыл бұрын
@@KingsandGenerals Please no, my Eu4-heart can't take it.
@dr0g_Oakblood
@dr0g_Oakblood 2 жыл бұрын
Really gotta love modern medicine, we take it for granted, but so many humans never had it or still don't, and suffer/ed for it.
@odie-wankenodie8607
@odie-wankenodie8607 2 жыл бұрын
@Kings and Generals Hunting accidents only seem to happen to good heirs. Enrique de Tratasmará does not seem to enjoy hunting.
@Drahko12
@Drahko12 2 жыл бұрын
A poisonous fever, the convenient death 👀
@johanm571
@johanm571 2 жыл бұрын
Some details that we did not get to cover in the script that you might enjoy: 2:04 : the division envisioned by Charlemagne was as followed: - his son Louis (the Pious) would get Aquitaine, Spain and Provence, - Pepin of Italy (father of the blinded Bernard, and not the disinherited Pepin) Italy, Bavaria and Swabia, - Charles, the eldest son of Charlemagne, got the Imperial title and the rest Both Charles and Pepin would die before Charlemagne, leaving Louis as the only legitimate heir (there were a few bastard sons, including his first, disinherited son Pepin, and Bernard son of the other Pepin). -- In the video, when we say "only heirs/sons", we are going to ignore a number of illegitimate sons and daughters for sake of brevity. 3:56 : If you play CK, you might know of the Carolingian branch of Vermandois, this is where they originated from 5:07 : Nicknamed Charles the Bald, he probably was not, in fact, bald, so don't complain that he has hair in his illustration :p 5:32 : The Oaths of Strasbourg is important for linguists as the Oaths were pronounced both in proto-French and proto-German by the two brothers, so both their armies could understand. 8:35 : Lothair II was desperate enough to have the marriage annulled that he gave the Jura (Western Switzerland) to his brother Louis II
@johanm571
@johanm571 2 жыл бұрын
Well KZfaq algorithm is strange so I will ad the sources here: Hello! Johan here, researcher and writer for this video. I hope you enjoyed our look at the Heirs of Charlemagne, a topic often forgotten as it's overshadowed by Charlemagne on one side and the Capets and Ottonids on the other. The goal I hoped to accomplish in this video was to give you guys an overview of the Carolingian Kings, where they ruled and their interactions between them, so next time you hear about Carloman of Bavaria or Louis the Stammer you can pinpoint them in the family tree and on the map. I'll answer questions on the period if you have any! /Per questo video sono eccezionalmente disponibili i sottotitoli in Italiano/ Sources for the Video: - Simon MacLean, Kingship and Politics in the Late Ninth Century: Charles the Fat and the End of the Carolingian Empire - Treccani - 1911 Encyclopædia Britannica - Antonio Brusa, L’alfabeto della storia 2 - Open Yale CourseHIST 210: The Early Middle Ages, 284-1000; Lecture 21 - Crisis of the Carolingians
@Alex-ec4wu
@Alex-ec4wu 2 жыл бұрын
brothers , we watch videos. we know charles the bald is not bald. he was just crownless.
@noobatthetower8747
@noobatthetower8747 2 жыл бұрын
Cool
@ixosis71
@ixosis71 2 жыл бұрын
From what I've read and studied, Bald was possibly a synonym of Bold, such as bald faced lie and bold faced lie are both acceptable idioms. Charles the Bald was probably Bold, not hairless of the head
@ciripa
@ciripa 2 жыл бұрын
@@johanm571 great job!! what 's your favorite parts/periods of history?
@nqh4393
@nqh4393 2 жыл бұрын
Gavelkind partition in a nutshell: so to stop my children from killing each other over inheritance, I’ll give each of them a piece of my realm so that they could wage war with each other instead.
@MyVanir
@MyVanir 2 жыл бұрын
Better let them use the peasantry to wage war than fight directly.
@lesROKnoobz
@lesROKnoobz 2 жыл бұрын
Isn't it weird how these powerful families don't seem to love each other or regard each other in the way people do in modern times.
@101Mant
@101Mant 2 жыл бұрын
@@lesROKnoobz not really, they usually spent very little time together while growing up so there were not really the sort of bonds formed that you get now. 0pusnyou had to be ruthless to hold onto power.
@shorewall
@shorewall 2 жыл бұрын
@@lesROKnoobz have you ever seen a modern family dealing with a fat inheritance? People will rip each other apart.
@nigelis2345
@nigelis2345 2 жыл бұрын
@@shorewall I have seen cases in my country where family fight for property for many years.
@cpom5075
@cpom5075 2 жыл бұрын
Gavelkind Succession Every Paradox players worst nightmare
@transsylvanian9100
@transsylvanian9100 2 жыл бұрын
I quite enjoy it. Makes the game interesting. Primogeniture is too easy, almost no point playing anymore by the time you get it.
@Charlie0l9
@Charlie0l9 2 жыл бұрын
This just means you got to conquer your neighbours and hand those newly conquered land out to your spares.
@levitschetter5288
@levitschetter5288 2 жыл бұрын
I keep other sons happy by taking all my vassals lands when the revolt, Hispania has had a vassal board wipe once per Emperor
@sebastianbravo5028
@sebastianbravo5028 2 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: The Oaths of Strasbourg (5:34) are a military and honor pact between Louis and Charles, in which they promise to support each other and defeat Lothar. The peculiarity of this is that an early form of romance (derived from vulgar Latin) that would evolve in the French language is attested. In the words of the scholar Philippe Walter: "This is the oldest extant French text. It is political in nature, not literary, and is important in that it marks the written debut of the 'vulgar' tongue."
@johanm571
@johanm571 2 жыл бұрын
Indeed, and not only is it an early (the first you say?) example of French language but also an early version of the German one, here is a fragment: - Frank: Pro deo et pro christian poblo et nostro commun salvament, d'ist di in avant in quant Deus savir et podir me dunat, si salvarai eo cist meo frade - Germanic: In Godes minna ind in thes christianes folches ind unser bedhero gealtnissi, fon thesemo dage frammordes, do framso mir Got gewizoi indi mahd furgibit, so haldit thesan minann bruodher - My English translation: For the love towards God and for the Christian people and our shared salvation, from this day on, for the power and wisdom that God will give me, I will protect him my brother
@michelmorio8026
@michelmorio8026 2 жыл бұрын
@@johanm571 speaking German, French & English, I‘m able to recognize and understand the proto-German part still pretty good out of a few words, but the proto-French text seems more Latin then French to me 😅
@leowilly29
@leowilly29 2 жыл бұрын
@@michelmorio8026 as a native french, i Can cleary see french Roots everywhere.
@silentgladiam2096
@silentgladiam2096 2 жыл бұрын
@@michelmorio8026 Speaking french I managed to understand the proto-french sentence without the translation
@davidegaribaldi1503
@davidegaribaldi1503 2 жыл бұрын
@@johanm571 the proto french reads like weird italian
@deluca1031
@deluca1031 2 жыл бұрын
"The pretty decent king split the crown between his heirs" "Down drop his head and they started throwing chairs" "Succession crisis led to civil war" "And the pretty decent kingdom doomed to be no moreeeeeeeeee"
@napolien1310
@napolien1310 2 жыл бұрын
Extra history!! Well played
@deluca1031
@deluca1031 2 жыл бұрын
@@benisrood Yeah,not all kings/emperor/caliph are that good and there are also those bad empires and kingdom so that actually make sense.
@nicholasnelson8641
@nicholasnelson8641 2 жыл бұрын
Extra history. Love the reference.
@Lightingwarrior
@Lightingwarrior 2 жыл бұрын
The sad thing is if Charlemagne had simply just changed Frankish laws where the eldest son would be the sole inheritor, like later medieval kingdoms did instead of having it divided among all his heirs, his empire probably would have survived a lot longer and become an even greater regional power in Europe
@deluca1031
@deluca1031 2 жыл бұрын
@@Lightingwarrior Yeah,he literally just dump the "Oldest,sole inheritor" and instead split the empire and just see how their sons work things out
@mosesracal6758
@mosesracal6758 2 жыл бұрын
Charles the Fat, is just something I didnt expect to reconquer Carolingian Empire even for a brief time
@mustardstang573
@mustardstang573 2 жыл бұрын
Well it was more of a “everybody’s dead” situation. He inherited it all then got deposed anyway
@fcalvaresi
@fcalvaresi 2 жыл бұрын
He was so ineffective that he is not counted as a king in France. Before him there was Charles II the Bald and after him is Charles III the Simple.
@ShubhamMishrabro
@ShubhamMishrabro 2 жыл бұрын
@@fcalvaresi why are names like this 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣. Fat,bald and simple
@fcalvaresi
@fcalvaresi 2 жыл бұрын
@@ShubhamMishrabro this is description of their character, made by other people to differentiate them. Not everyone can be the Great. It was before the tradition of numbers started.
@ShubhamMishrabro
@ShubhamMishrabro 2 жыл бұрын
@@fcalvaresi ohh🤣🤣🤣🤣
@Alias_Anybody
@Alias_Anybody 2 жыл бұрын
That period is often glossed over in European history classes. The more I learn about 800-900 the more sense it makes that they don't want to open that can of worms, lol.
@shorewall
@shorewall 2 жыл бұрын
They just want to call it the "Dark Ages" and leave out the whole "Carolingian Renaissance".
@user-nf9xc7ww7m
@user-nf9xc7ww7m 2 жыл бұрын
Ironically, the can of Worms would be opened with religion and Martin Luther. Diet of Worms for the european historically challenged 😉
@adamwarlock1
@adamwarlock1 2 жыл бұрын
@@user-nf9xc7ww7m I hate these fad diets.
@terr1592
@terr1592 2 жыл бұрын
@@shorewall it toally is a dark age, but there is far more too it than that, and it had to happen to get thing moving again in Europe unfortunately, although the way it happened with tribal inheritance being what governed Europe for over 1000 years was definitely not good
@monetizacao2.047
@monetizacao2.047 2 жыл бұрын
@@terr1592 I think we can divide the dark ages(medieval dark ages) in two great periods. One that goes from 476 to 800 and other that goes from 1315 to late 1300s(?)
@dimitribagatelas1714
@dimitribagatelas1714 2 жыл бұрын
"your balls and your body, will thank you" dude you killed it lmaooo
@MrSpy-jo4je
@MrSpy-jo4je 2 жыл бұрын
There has be some bloopers for that scene 😂
@matthewjones7167
@matthewjones7167 2 жыл бұрын
69 likes. Nice
@alexandrebenoin40
@alexandrebenoin40 2 жыл бұрын
For when a serie on charlemagne era or frankish kingdom
@sophiawilson8696
@sophiawilson8696 2 жыл бұрын
The only thing I heard of this Charlamagne Kingdom was the movie Rose and the Winter. That this first Kingdom after West side of Rome fell.
@G_Flash84625
@G_Flash84625 2 жыл бұрын
Yes Please
@massimopisati7922
@massimopisati7922 2 жыл бұрын
"Italy went into a period known as the anarchy" which continues to this day
@miguelpereira9859
@miguelpereira9859 2 жыл бұрын
lmao
@pogo8050
@pogo8050 Жыл бұрын
🤌🤌🤌
@gorgon6680
@gorgon6680 2 жыл бұрын
"Manscaped probably can't save an empire, but it can save your love life" Jokes on you 90% of K&G viewers don't have a love life in the first place.
@PedroGomes-cx7ku
@PedroGomes-cx7ku 2 жыл бұрын
I'll have you know that I have a harem of sisters in Crusader Kings 3.
@Dmartinez117
@Dmartinez117 2 жыл бұрын
My Love Is TO THE GLORY OF ROME
@Dmartinez117
@Dmartinez117 2 жыл бұрын
AVE CAESAR PROFLIGATE
@rocekth
@rocekth 2 жыл бұрын
My CK2 game with far too many lovers and wife proves you wrong. Not to mention the 30 kids
@Drahko12
@Drahko12 2 жыл бұрын
One day ☝️ maybe ☹️
@animeyahallo3887
@animeyahallo3887 2 жыл бұрын
"What if" scenarios are always in my mind whenever I watch a major historical event like this one.
@witheringleaves5431
@witheringleaves5431 2 жыл бұрын
More like "if only" :(
@mism847
@mism847 2 жыл бұрын
And then I go play CK3 to realize that scenario, and repeat
@18Krieger
@18Krieger 2 жыл бұрын
This part of history has good points for what if scenarios. It could have gone so many ways if just one thing would have happened differently.
@colink563
@colink563 2 жыл бұрын
I always find it fascinating that a likely unintended affect of Charlemagne conquering the Saxons and destroying them is that he destroyed the one collection of tribes and people that had acted as a buffer state between his realm and this of the Germanic/Viking states, which thus brought on the Viking age, essentially creating all kinds of problems for his sons and heirs.
@Siegbert85
@Siegbert85 2 жыл бұрын
Never heard that. I thought the Vikings started their raids in England first. That was outside of Charlemagne's area of influence.
@DidacusAugustus
@DidacusAugustus 2 жыл бұрын
My friends that don't know history: You can't summarize this entire episode in one sentenc-... Me: Gavelkind
@paulbarrette4271
@paulbarrette4271 2 жыл бұрын
A series on the early barbarian kingdoms would be cool. Like going over what daily life looked like in the former Roman provinces under Germanic rule.
@dominicguye8058
@dominicguye8058 2 жыл бұрын
Not much changed, actually
@jouskehigaskita8835
@jouskehigaskita8835 2 жыл бұрын
@@dominicguye8058 really ? Explain bro
@michaelhenry3234
@michaelhenry3234 Жыл бұрын
@@jouskehigaskita8835 Rome evolved over time. By the time the empire fell, many of the barbarians had been Romanized, centralized power had already been in decline for decades, manorialism and serfdom had existed in some form for like a hundred years, etc. When the "barbarians" took control, they mostly just continued the system as it had been running before. Rome's fall was really an extremely slow and gradual decline, not a single event caused by barbarian conquest. The chosen date of 476 is really quite arbitrary. Odoacer, who overthrew the emperor in 476, was an officer in the Roman army and gained the support of the Senate throughout his reign.
@JcoleMc
@JcoleMc 6 ай бұрын
​​@@michaelhenry3234 That didnt happen the real romans hated the barbarians of northern Europe so much they'd rather go the grave then allow them to rule , the Barbarains being uncivilized and illeterate neglected roman archetecture they regularly raided roman libraries and burnt those texts , realizing their mistake all to late as the newly reformed empires of asia surround europe , europe would never again be relevant till the 18 century .
@michaelhenry3234
@michaelhenry3234 6 ай бұрын
@@JcoleMc Nothing I said was false. Rome's decline and fall was gradual. By the time Rome officially fell many "barbarians" had been integrated into the empire (And citizenship had been expanded to include them almost 300 years earlier). Rome had ceased being the actual capital (Ravenna had taken its place in the West, Constantinople in the East), manorialism had already begun to develop, and central authority had been eroded. As I said, it was hardly barbarian hordes upending society... Odoacer, _the_ barbarian who ended the empire in 476, was an officer in the Roman army, had support from the Senate, and was officially recognized as a governor under the Eastern Roman Empire's authority (although Odoacer was de facto king). The fall of Rome was complicated. Europe wasn't relevant till the 18th century? Really? So the Portuguese Empire wasn't relevant? The Spanish conquest of America? The Byzantine Empire?
@rkaneproductions9827
@rkaneproductions9827 2 жыл бұрын
I’m so impressed on how kings and general’s videos have gotten better and better throughout the years. My favorite channel for history content by far.
@TheTfrules
@TheTfrules 2 жыл бұрын
Lothair really drew the short straw getting that middle kingdom. Totally undefendable
@dominicguye8058
@dominicguye8058 2 жыл бұрын
Wars have consequences
@EmptyMan000
@EmptyMan000 2 жыл бұрын
Drew? Not even. He was deliberately given the worst piece of a three piece pie as punishment by his brothers for trying to take over. Choices and Consequences.
@IceNiner199
@IceNiner199 2 жыл бұрын
Finding out that there was a monarch named King Bozo really made my day! :-D Clowns of the world, hold up your heads in pride!
@johanm571
@johanm571 2 жыл бұрын
It is the anglification of his name, he is also known as Boso in English, and Boson or Bosone in other languages
@Alatriste90
@Alatriste90 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome as always. Would be nice to see more Carolingian and Iron Century documentaries. Like the Magyar migrations or the Saxons wars.
@KoovoParkolainen
@KoovoParkolainen 2 жыл бұрын
The animations here are simply amazing.
@D10medes
@D10medes 2 жыл бұрын
Damn, this has got to be the clearest, best account of the late Carolingian empire on KZfaq. The amount of visual detail with clear, concise information is so impressive. You guys rock.
@gemcarloramos9704
@gemcarloramos9704 2 жыл бұрын
I completely overlooked Charlemange in history class when I was in middle school but I love how I got to know more about History and actually dive deep from the Bronze Age era to the Rise of the Roman Republic then the Roman Empire and WW1 and WW2 now that I'm at college.
@marcoslaureano5562
@marcoslaureano5562 2 жыл бұрын
Hearing the narrator say "Your balls and your body will thank you", just made my entire afternoon.
@Blalack77
@Blalack77 2 жыл бұрын
This is one of the most fascinating points in history to me. Anywhere in history where it's a transitional period after the fall of a kingdom, empire or dynasty, the power vacuum it creates, the chaos in-between, what happens next and the formation of new kingdoms. I'd like to see a video on the Franks/Germanic peoples between the fall of the Western Roman Empire and the rise of Charlemagne - basically, how they went from wild, raiding, pillaging "barbarians" to emperors. I guess like the mid-400's to the 600-700's roughly. Because what I said there probably is the single most interesting thing in history to me - how these "barbarians" terrorized the Roman Empire for most of its history, finally conquered it, took over and then became the kings and emperors of Europe - while respecting and preserving a lot of the ideas and customs of the Romans. It's just wild how much they fought and how much they _appeared_ to hate one another (Romans and Germanic people/Franks that is) but then later, these same barbarians want to be known as "Roman emperors" and revive Roman customs, ideas, traditions, etc... Fascinating...
@StatusDynasty
@StatusDynasty Жыл бұрын
One theory is of course that calling the Franks wild savage barbarians was pure nonsense propaganda.
@MerkhVision
@MerkhVision 5 ай бұрын
I totally agree with everything you said! Those types of transitional periods are fascinating, and this one in particular is especially important in how it set the foundations for what Europe would eventually become and it’s influence reverberates through history. I’m also especially interested especially in how these loose confederations of tribes and their chiefs transformed into feudal kingdoms and formal states, and how they established their power and legitimacy. I also appreciate your mention of the cultural details, in how these separate and rival people came to aspire to and embody similar ideals.
@Blalack77
@Blalack77 5 ай бұрын
@@StatusDynasty Well, I mean, that's why I put "barbarians" in quotes. From what I've been able to discern just casually learning about it is that the Germanic people/Franks were pretty Romanized by the fall of the Western empire. I'm not a scholar or anything so maybe I've got it all mixed up but that's what I'm saying - this is an interesting era and I'd like to learn more about the very specific, precise timeframe of what the Germanic people were doing and what their culture looked like from maybe a few centuries before the fall up until Charlemagne.
@Blalack77
@Blalack77 5 ай бұрын
@@MerkhVision Yeah I have really strong, grandiose ideas sometimes but I usually have trouble putting them to coherent words lol.. I would still be interested in finding a documentary or series or book or something on this very specific topic/timeframe. I guess as concise as possible: "How the Germanic peoples evolved from 'barbarians' to kings/emperors" and/or "The evolution of Germanic culture from [anywhere between like 100 BC to 100 AD] all the way up to (and/or beyond) the time of Charlemagne". There are some other Germanic groups I'd be interested in learning more about too - like specifically the Vandals and how they ended up in North Africa - and speaking of that, perhaps how the Carthaginians came about, the different Goth groups, the various steppe people Huns, Mongols, Scythians, etc. I don't know how it is for other people but a lot of these are kind of mysterious to me.
@ChiefKene
@ChiefKene Жыл бұрын
It’s always so interesting to see how one man build a empire and then his sons and grandson mess it up and fight with each other like they have no common blood
@nucleardog6675
@nucleardog6675 Жыл бұрын
I am just surprised one family had this much control over the people back then. Seemed like if ur a true decedent of Charlemagne you just ride in and get the kingdom.
@AtticusAmericanus
@AtticusAmericanus 2 жыл бұрын
"You want me to trim my what now?"~Every male in the Dark Age.
@y.r._
@y.r._ 2 жыл бұрын
I don't get it
@longyu9336
@longyu9336 2 жыл бұрын
@@y.r._ Whilst in Classical Antiquity, people like Caesar plucked their bodily hair, Dark Age people thought that beards and body hair was given to them by God, hence trimming body hair was considered almost a sacrilege.
@y.r._
@y.r._ 2 жыл бұрын
@@longyu9336 I wonder how I wasn't able to understand it the first time I read it
@joellaz9836
@joellaz9836 2 жыл бұрын
@@longyu9336 Actually it was mostly because Germanic people loved beards and long hair
@michaelthomas5433
@michaelthomas5433 2 жыл бұрын
Louis the Stammerer. Charles the Fat. Charles the Simple. Noble names indeed.
@Gui101do
@Gui101do 2 жыл бұрын
This is a confusing web of territories and family members, but the way it was presented helped immensely. Well done!
@ordotectonicus8585
@ordotectonicus8585 2 жыл бұрын
You do a great job of condensing centuries of history into only 20 minutes
@johanm571
@johanm571 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, it is difficult sometimes to cut stuff and details for the script but sometimes it is important to have a bird-eyed view on the events.
@ordotectonicus8585
@ordotectonicus8585 2 жыл бұрын
@@johanm571 are you one of the script writers? Anyway. Keep up the great work. I learn more from your engaging videos than i do at school
@noobatthetower8747
@noobatthetower8747 2 жыл бұрын
@@johanm571 this was awsome
@noobatthetower8747
@noobatthetower8747 2 жыл бұрын
@@johanm571 this was awsome
@johanm571
@johanm571 2 жыл бұрын
@@ordotectonicus8585 Indeed I am the writer and researcher for this video
@tylers.2596
@tylers.2596 2 жыл бұрын
Kings and Generals you guys are so productive. Churning out all this new content. Much Appreciated.
@Atomik91400
@Atomik91400 2 жыл бұрын
Charles in 845: "Can this situation get any worse?!" *Enter Ragnar*
@AlexC-ou4ju
@AlexC-ou4ju 2 жыл бұрын
thankfully the Franks Got a lot better under Count Odo in 885
@JanneRanta
@JanneRanta 2 жыл бұрын
This art style is epic. I hope you guys keep doing more videos with it.
@MrCount84
@MrCount84 2 жыл бұрын
This video makes understanding this period so much easier.
@thekingsamar5781
@thekingsamar5781 2 жыл бұрын
I was just studying this topic,and you guys are helping me greatly.Keep it up.
@Mezzogiorno84
@Mezzogiorno84 2 жыл бұрын
Another Masterpiece, nice to watch, easy to understand. Chapeau. I would also expand the average duration to 25 minutes, as your audience is eager to learn, time isn't an issue.
@inakik97
@inakik97 2 жыл бұрын
The artwork is amazing
@Darkdaej
@Darkdaej 2 жыл бұрын
This channel has been my go-to source for my bedtime videos. I'll lie in bed with my headphones and listen to one of these videos while slowly drifting off to sleep. Not that you guys are boring at all - it's just that they're just long enough to carry me until I sleep and I can picture what's going on in my head with the descriptions, music and sound effects. I skip ahead past the ad though :P
@496676
@496676 2 жыл бұрын
Your animations are getting better and better. Very good artwork there! Congratulations.
@luqmanhakim2391
@luqmanhakim2391 2 жыл бұрын
I like how Germany and France are literally related to each other through the same ancestor, the Kingdom of Francia/Frankia, which was one of the Germanic states of that time.
@DidierDidier-kc4nm
@DidierDidier-kc4nm 2 жыл бұрын
From 450 AD to 1000 i would say you re right ,France and Germany (holy roman empire) were quite closed in the relationship sometimes tensed but from 1066 To 1453 most of relationship evolved to France with England (often for the worse;) and Gemany (holy roman empire) with Italia (often for the worse as well:)
@NoName-yw1pt
@NoName-yw1pt 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, France is very culturally diversed
@N0Time
@N0Time Жыл бұрын
Germanic does not necessarily mean German. The scandinavians are germanic but not germans. Nations and nationalities are political constructs that are not necessarily reduced to culture or language. France is a mosaic of peoples such as the Celts (Gauls, Bretons), the Germanic (Franks, Burgundians), the Latins (Romans, later Corsicans), the Basques etc. Saint-Clotilde, for example, the wife of Clovis, was a Burgundian, one of the Germanic peoples that make up France, as were the Salian Franks. Alfred the Great (founder of the House of Wessex in England) was Germanic, like Clovis, as he was Saxon. To say that the Salian Franks are not French is like saying that the Saxons who moved to England are not English. Riurik, the founding father of Russia, was of Germanic too (Scandinavian) aswell as Pelagius, the founding father of Spain (Wisigoth). However, it would not occur to a Swede or a German to want to appropriate them like it would not occur to a Frenchman to say that Richard Lionheart was French, even if he lived in France most of his life, is burried there and did not speak English. Charlemagne laid the territorial foundations of Germany by subduing and uniting the Germanic tribes through conquest (he's nicknamed the «Saxons Slayer»), just as Julius Caesar did in Gaul. Before Caesar, the Gallic tribes, although belonging to the same cultural group, did not have a unitary conception of their people or their territory. Therefore, to say that Charlemagne belongs to German history is like saying that Julius Caesar belongs to French history. Charlemagne belongs to French history in the same way that Leonardo da Vinci and Dante Alighieri or Ariminius and Martin Luther belong to Italian and German history, although these nations were not formed until several centuries later. Despite the anachronism, it could be said that Italy (Romans) laid the territorial foundations for what France would become, even though historically, the baptism of Clovis is the founding act, and that France (Carolingians) did the same for Germany, even though historically the proclamation of the Holy Roman Empire by Otto I is the founding act. The history of France begins in 496 with the baptism of Clovis, according to historians (I don't know any who argue the contrary but if you know of any please name them), according to the Church (France is called the "Eldest Daughter of the Church" to this day) and even according to a young illiterate peasant girl who didn't have access to history books (which is one of the many miracles of her journey) named Joan of Arc. The kings of France have been crowned in Reims since clovis. Charles VII cross the enemy lines to be crowned in Reims to obtain this legitimacy. They hold the title of kings of the Franks until the 12th century and all came from the Frankish nobility from 496 until 1830. The French had even been called Franks by their enemies until the 14th century and during the crusades.
@amienabled6665
@amienabled6665 2 жыл бұрын
Lets pour one out for our boi Charlemagne.
@bobryant9923
@bobryant9923 2 жыл бұрын
I'll cheers with you for my 32nd to 38th (multitude of lines) great grandfather.
@ThePhoenix109
@ThePhoenix109 2 жыл бұрын
@@bobryant9923 doubt it
@mism847
@mism847 2 жыл бұрын
@@ThePhoenix109 Doubt what?
@ThePhoenix109
@ThePhoenix109 2 жыл бұрын
@@mism847 that you are distantly related to him.
@lomax343
@lomax343 2 жыл бұрын
When I was at university, what seems like a thousand years ago, I took a course in Mediaeval French. We were introduced to the oldest extant piece of written French - an agreement between Louis the German and Charles the Bald to gang up on their brother Lothair. I presume this was the Oath of Strasbourg mentioned at 5:34.
@AlexC-ou4ju
@AlexC-ou4ju 2 жыл бұрын
it was yes early french used there.
@Siegbert85
@Siegbert85 2 жыл бұрын
It was actually written in both: Old French and Old High German so both respective realms could understand it.
@marc-ericleblanc-seguin4514
@marc-ericleblanc-seguin4514 Жыл бұрын
I took a course on the history of the french language, which mostly covered the origins of the language and medieval french. C’était fascinant.
@lomax343
@lomax343 Жыл бұрын
@@marc-ericleblanc-seguin4514 So you know the difference between the Langue d'oc and the Langue d'oil? After mumble years, I've yet to find that piece of information useful.
@marc-ericleblanc-seguin4514
@marc-ericleblanc-seguin4514 Жыл бұрын
@@lomax343 It’s pretty easy to remember: oc and oil both mean yes, oc is the southern languages and dialects of france and neighbouring regions, oil is the northern languages and dialects of france and neighbouring regions, and french is oil because the word for yes is oui which comes from oil. I admit that this knowledge has never been useful to me, not even once. But I have no complaints, as I enjoy learning about history very much and it was a really fun course.
@inmhop3729
@inmhop3729 9 ай бұрын
Thank you for the visuals on this. It was most helpful.
@tannerlembke8659
@tannerlembke8659 2 жыл бұрын
Love your work Kingsand Generals. I'm always excited to see what new material you have for me to learn.
@cristianocosta4662
@cristianocosta4662 2 жыл бұрын
This is one of the most important and at the same time unknown period of European History
@youvebeengreeked
@youvebeengreeked Жыл бұрын
*Kind of surprising that Kings And Generals have never done a full series on the campaigns of Charlemagne; he's such a pivotal figure in world history.*
@kristianmarcussen3045
@kristianmarcussen3045 2 жыл бұрын
That 3D segment at 08:37 was GORGEOUS !
@napoleonibonaparte7198
@napoleonibonaparte7198 2 жыл бұрын
Andorra: the Last of Charlemagne’s realm.
@shidqifarrasi9783
@shidqifarrasi9783 2 жыл бұрын
I came 10 seconds after this video is posted and it didn't disappoint me at all, keep the good work.
@Drahko12
@Drahko12 2 жыл бұрын
👀 what
@jakovvodanovic9165
@jakovvodanovic9165 2 жыл бұрын
The animation is just unbelievably good!
@masonkim7
@masonkim7 2 жыл бұрын
the production value of this video is off the charts!
@andreasleonardo6793
@andreasleonardo6793 2 жыл бұрын
Too nice video with clear explaining of events which occurred at that time 👍👍👍👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
@otto6702
@otto6702 2 жыл бұрын
We need a video about Otto the Great. His influence on European history cannot be understated.
@selecttravelvacations7472
@selecttravelvacations7472 2 жыл бұрын
I want to see a dedicated historical fiction production in the style of HBOs “Rome” with these historical story threads. Such a fascinating time in history.
@user-gy6zl9cg2d
@user-gy6zl9cg2d 2 жыл бұрын
one of the best video i have ever seen!great job once again Kings and Generals!greetings from Greece!
@jimbojangles9056
@jimbojangles9056 2 жыл бұрын
Would be cool if you did some episodes abour charlemanges battles and events of his life. So hard to find any good info about it. Great episode tho love the choice. Been waiting for a charlemage and europe story for awhile. Keep uo the great work
@Mwakinificent
@Mwakinificent 2 жыл бұрын
I'd like a video on the predecessors of the Karolingians, the Merovingians! I feel like it's relatively hard to find info about them.
@Aprokind
@Aprokind 2 жыл бұрын
Started getting interested in the Frankish Empire and then this dropped, top.
@syedazam2568
@syedazam2568 2 жыл бұрын
Great Video. Love the topics you have been exploring.
@doloressaucedo9992
@doloressaucedo9992 Жыл бұрын
immensely...interesting. ....immensely real! I can watch this over and over. love your historical/ educational videos!
@tongobong1
@tongobong1 2 жыл бұрын
Charlemagne's Empire fell because there was no Manscaped at that time right? LOL!
@sanchodesangleyaragon3492
@sanchodesangleyaragon3492 2 жыл бұрын
I hope you create a documentary about norman conflicts within france. Specially the ones against the french kings. That would be great.
@miloskrstic7491
@miloskrstic7491 2 жыл бұрын
Animation and art in this video are really inspiring.
@rahjah6958
@rahjah6958 2 жыл бұрын
Graphics and topics get better and better, aslo dosnt follow what other popular history youtubers make video’s of
@CliffCardi
@CliffCardi 2 жыл бұрын
Charles, Lothar, and Louis: "Daddy, which one of us do you love the most?" *Louis the Pious nervously sweats*
@sirwelch9991
@sirwelch9991 2 жыл бұрын
It has been so many years since we saw something about the Father of Europe himself. Thank you!
@bigfenix8272
@bigfenix8272 2 жыл бұрын
In under 24 hours, thank you SO MUCH again!!
@JonEsnob
@JonEsnob 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing, as always. Thank you!
@DamonNomad82
@DamonNomad82 2 жыл бұрын
I've been working on discovering my ancestry, and found that I am descended from Charlemagne from several different lines (as I'm sure many thousands of others are). That adds a whole new dimension to the fascination I already had for this history.
@SilverEye168
@SilverEye168 2 жыл бұрын
Lovely rendering, this channel does in a great job in the way it uses art to explain historical developments. Regarding this time period, Charlemagne's balls were too heavy for his line to carry.
@ZoobieDoodie
@ZoobieDoodie 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great content K&G!
@ubuk-5676
@ubuk-5676 2 жыл бұрын
he is turkısh
@gwennblei
@gwennblei 2 жыл бұрын
Beautifully made, well researched video once more, a pleasure to watch and learn more :)
@Hashishin13
@Hashishin13 2 жыл бұрын
"...marked the end of an era, as no longer would the kingdom be unified." Bozo: "Am I a clown to you?"
@LOLERXP
@LOLERXP 2 жыл бұрын
Man I sure hope this will lead us to some more pre-Renaissance HRE stuff... The period between Otto I. and the Habsburg streak seems to be practically uncovered on history KZfaq? So the whole first 400 years of the German HRE. Except some Frederick Barbarossa videos. The Staufer dynasty for example, particularly Frederick II. should be good for content
@quadcannon
@quadcannon 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video and a digestible version of what happened to the Kingdom of Charlemagne.
@niccolocaramori7288
@niccolocaramori7288 2 жыл бұрын
Ehi Kings and Generals are you gonna make a video about the birth of the Italian communes and the wars against Federico Barbarossa? Anyway excellent video and very good content keep up the good work
@PhilHug1
@PhilHug1 2 жыл бұрын
Could you please do a video on how the Capetian dynasty went from figureheads to kings with real power?
@Toumahitoedits
@Toumahitoedits 2 жыл бұрын
Louis I "the Pious"(only surviving son of Charlemagne) kicks the bucket* Charles the Bald of France, Lothair I of Italy, and Louis I the German completely divided the Frankish Empire* Frankish Empire: Guess I'll die :(
@Delta-V1
@Delta-V1 2 жыл бұрын
This is marvelous sir, thank you for the great material.. Wish I had this when I was a child... 😊
@Manuel-gu9ls
@Manuel-gu9ls 2 жыл бұрын
One of my most favorite Kings in history, there are other channels about him like @fire of Learning & @armchair historian both and this are great depiction and stories about Charlemagne and his Empire that gave the potential identities of each kingdom that made it up.....
@byzantinetales
@byzantinetales 2 жыл бұрын
It's hard to achieve primogeniture within a lifetime :D
@omarb7164
@omarb7164 2 жыл бұрын
I’ll take a one minute ad on balls manscaping over Raid shadow legends or squarespace anyday. Respect
@ruairimonophthalmos5458
@ruairimonophthalmos5458 2 жыл бұрын
Couldn't agree more.
@shorewall
@shorewall 2 жыл бұрын
I couldn't agree less. Manscaped ads are pure liquid cringe.
@Dave_Sisson
@Dave_Sisson 2 жыл бұрын
@@shorewall Anything,..absolutely anything... even that ad... is better than Raid Shadow Legends.
@ibrahimyasin1090
@ibrahimyasin1090 2 жыл бұрын
love these documentary style videos
@ligidaykurin9106
@ligidaykurin9106 2 жыл бұрын
Love your videos Very informative Thank you
@topsmug3409
@topsmug3409 2 жыл бұрын
Probably the most important factor to remember is that the post Roman kingdoms direct power stopped a few miles outside its kings castle, and largely depended on the power of the kings vessels. In short, the Carolingian empire was just too big and decentralized to survive.
@frankwu4747
@frankwu4747 2 жыл бұрын
All of those sudden deaths are highly suspicious…
@Heisenberg882
@Heisenberg882 2 жыл бұрын
Death was much more common in the past.
@tarekmohamedkamelghanem4926
@tarekmohamedkamelghanem4926 2 жыл бұрын
I am just in love with the map design and I keep imagining how good it look in an actual game
@AlphaCrucis
@AlphaCrucis 2 жыл бұрын
European history is so difficult and confusing for me. Finally a video that illustrates a macro view of what is going on in a way I can follow along with.
@giorgiociaravolol1998
@giorgiociaravolol1998 2 жыл бұрын
"In Italy there was anarchy" Wow, why am I not surprised
@princepscivitatis4083
@princepscivitatis4083 2 жыл бұрын
Charlemagne's Empire could've flourished even more if he had only united the HRE and the ERE by marrying Irene of Athens and fathering a legitimate successor.
@thatwasprettydecent7497
@thatwasprettydecent7497 2 жыл бұрын
Irene was past child bearing age though
@barbiquearea
@barbiquearea 2 жыл бұрын
But wasn't Irene merely a regent to her son Constantine VI? I don't see how her union with Charlemagne would have solidified Carolingian influence over the Byzantines unless Constantine VI also married one of Charlemagne's daughter.
@LuisBrito-ly1ko
@LuisBrito-ly1ko 2 жыл бұрын
@@barbiquearea Irene deposed her son and became Empress. That’s the reason why Charlemagne became “Roman Emperor” in the first place. The pope in Rome already disliked the Byzantines and used the excuse that a woman cannot be Empress to hand the title to the Franks.
@edk487
@edk487 2 жыл бұрын
That would not have work the Eastern romans hated barbarians with passion look at how they treated Zeno.
@user-ln8eh5nq3q
@user-ln8eh5nq3q 2 жыл бұрын
@RandomWarThunder indeed
@matheusrondelleite8015
@matheusrondelleite8015 2 жыл бұрын
Oh, I remember playing Crusader Kings 2 and those events popping up during the gameplay! Just awesome!
@barbiquearea
@barbiquearea 2 жыл бұрын
Were you playing as the Franks?
@logankrause8179
@logankrause8179 2 жыл бұрын
Finally! Love ur stuff !
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