How China is winning the GREEN ENERGY race.

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China's perceived march towards global domination appears to be ruffling some feathers here in the Western world. Their version of the industrial revolution has lifted hundreds of millions out of abject poverty, but it is still held up by some as the greatest modern sin against humanity and our climate. So, how accurate is that allegation?
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@supaflylob Ай бұрын

"oh no china is subsidizing electric vehicles making it hard to compete on price" meanwhile US has been subsidizing the domestic oil industry for the last 100 years

@hillockfarm8404 Ай бұрын

America did that for its own citizens, China doesn't have the internal market, so it dumps the stuff on other markets and at unfair advantage due to protected status as 2nd/3rd world economy. Be carefull when comparing.

@Pecisk Ай бұрын

Also manufacturers admitting that they fucked it up themselves. Because that sweet sweet oil money talks very loudly.

@cl8804 Ай бұрын

J3VV LOVE. TO SEE. IT.

@MartinMaat Ай бұрын

Offering tax exempts is also subsidizing. So is raising import tax on foreign products. Every country has its own ways.

@ThatOpalGuy Ай бұрын

yeah, and they cant pay people nothing, as much as they want too. I guess capitalism is only fair if the US is doing it.

@orwin64 27 күн бұрын

Amazing what the Chinese have achieved since the 1980s. Their ability to collaborate and work for the good of all is second to none.

@annkoh8653 26 күн бұрын

I want to set d record straight as someone who lived in China for 2 decades & had travelled to Xinjiang several times in d course of that period that there's NO genocide of any sort going on there. Period.

@koiyujo1543 22 күн бұрын

wait wait wait... hold on really? than wtf is going on western propaganda? as a gen z american socialist it's hard for me to learn stuff because I'm constantly learning new stuff besides that I do wanna ask How can I know your actually living in china?

@annkoh8653 22 күн бұрын

@@koiyujo1543 Don't take my word for it. Experience it for yrself. It's open to anyone wanting to visit. Xinjiang is truly a beautiful place. Sceneries, food, culture & d people.

@cmartinmnl 14 күн бұрын

@@koiyujo1543 You can see other Americans and other nationalities who post their videos of Xinjiang and post the opposite of what western main stream media says with word like could, may or might but still does not provide actual evidence! But better still just see for yourself and take a trip! Just be forewarned! You might be disappointed finding out that mainstream media has been feeding you false information all these years! One reason I stopped reading and watching them and started traveling around myself!

@Ryanflees 6 күн бұрын

@@koiyujo1543 This is something weird with western youth. When you ask them do they trust media or the governments they'd say no. Then when you ask if they believe the negative impression of China which was propagated by the western governments and MSM, they say yes.

@jetli740 3 күн бұрын

@@koiyujo1543 cn must be crap at genocide? not able to make 1 dead uighur for the west to have it story. beside 115m visitor to xinjiang not a single photo of force labour western keep claim about.

@snowstrobe Ай бұрын

The other factor is, of course, that much of our industrial production has been moved to China, in other words, our lowering CO2 output is simply being 'outsourced' to China. So it's frankly pretty obscene of us to point the finger at their CO2 levels.

@sportsonwheelss Ай бұрын

the thing that Western nations never mention is that the Chinese are not only carrying other nations' pollution being the manufacturer for the world, yet their emission per capita is still half of what Western world pollutes.

@John-FourteenSix Ай бұрын

How else do you suggest we call them to account when we all breathe the same air?

@TheHonestPeanut Ай бұрын

@@John-FourteenSix the US has no right to call any country to account for anything. Nothing. China increased their CO2 output with the intent of eliminating it and they're on track to do so. Even with their increase they're FAR behind the US per capita. China isn't the world's biggest polluter and they're already reducing their output.

@diceman199 Ай бұрын

@@John-FourteenSix Maybe look at the per person output and China are already way ahead of the rest of us on installing renewables.

@manoo422 Ай бұрын

@@diceman199 China are doing exactly what everyone else should be doing by using ALL available resources to power it economy. Rather than what the West is doing which is ignoring all the best options and focusing on all the most worthless and expensive options.

@adus123 Ай бұрын

China's coal consumption would likely be significantly lower if it were not responsible for producing half of the world's products commissioned by Western companies. We have been using them for years to produce our stuff now they have got good at it and we are moaning about it. We only have ourselves to blame.

@jamesrowlands8971 Ай бұрын

This. Especially steel.

@100c0c Ай бұрын

China shouldn't mind the manufacturing being brought back then. It will help reduce their coal use.

@jamesrowlands8971 Ай бұрын

@@100c0c except that this would increase the length of logistics supply chains, making manufacturing more inefficient.

@ricardodelzealandia6290 Ай бұрын

Pretty much said exactly this to some friends in the pub the other night.

@ShieldAre Ай бұрын

No, we have China to blame. China has done this deliberately. It used a lot of cheap coal and implemented loose environmental protections precisely so that it could attract manufacturing. As a result, China has gained an immense amount of investment and gotten richer far faster than for example India. China is the one profiting here, using a scheme they deliberately set up, and as such, China is the only one to blame. If China didn't want to be blamed, it wouldn't have used cheap coal and it would have implemented stricter regulations. The West is to blame only in the sense that it didn't implement strong enough carbon tariffs, but they are not easy to implement and track.

@user-pt1yu9bp8h Ай бұрын

For some unknown reason, youtube keeps recommending videos about how EVs are a failure, and people dont want to buy them.

@ronvandereerden4714 Ай бұрын

The reason is known. Fossil industries have enormous power. We are flooded with their propaganda which triggers all sorts of algorithms in both social media and mainstream media in a vicious cycle. There's just no way these multi-$trillion industries are going to go down without a fight.

@samchickensandwich23 Ай бұрын

gee i wonder why, might it be that it has failed and people actually arnt buying them so much anymore ?

@stickynorth Ай бұрын

Yup! Someone rich and influential is able to buy the algorithm.. Same here... It's a constant cycle of FUD media now... I'm a say probably MBS and Saudi Aramco since its the largest petro-chemical company on earth and they are almost entirely dependent on fossil fuel revenue to this day to the keep the Kingdom's lights on... Plus they were already caught conspiring to try and stop the growth of EV's... Check out the clip on KZfaq of its CEO in a hot mic scenario I believe...

@stickynorth Ай бұрын

@@samchickensandwich23 BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA... NOPE. I see you're the FUD monster of "we've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas" What a bloody maroon!

@stickynorth Ай бұрын

@@ronvandereerden4714 Bingo! Saudi Aramco and ExxonMobil have massive marketing budgets for a reason.. And it's not to convince us that we need oil... It's that we can't live with the alternatives... Total FUD funders from the beginning....

@paulawallis Ай бұрын

Well, I live in Australia and drive a Chinese EV - because they're affordable....

@Poppetje75 28 күн бұрын

Unfortunately, Tesla is canceling the model 2 for people with a lower budget. This shows that Elon thinks more about his own stock market than about reducing CO2 as he previously claimed.

@WJV9 28 күн бұрын

@@Poppetje75 - Elon has claimed a LOT of things, most of which never happened or took 5 times longer than he thought and cost twice as much as claimed. He's a con man in the mold of djt and other grifters. I hope NASA drops him soon before they get too dependent on his X companies.

@pikachus5m166 26 күн бұрын

How much does the BYD Seagull cost in Australia?. I've noticed huge UK price differences in BYD, MG and GWM with prices down under, and can only put that down to government policies.

@mikeg9b 25 күн бұрын

@@Poppetje75 Tesla is not cancelling the more affordable car. From the Q1 2024 Earnings Call (Apr 23, 2024): "In terms of the new product road map, there's been a lot of talk about our upcoming vehicle line in the next -- in the past several weeks. We've updated our future vehicle lineup to accelerate the launch of new models ahead, previously mentioned start of production in the second half of 2025. So, we expect it to be more like the early 2025, if not late this year. These new vehicles, *including more affordable models,* will use aspects of the next-generation platform as well as aspects of our current platforms, and we'll be able to produce on the same manufacturing lines as our current vehicle lineup." kzfaq.infoo81Rs-w3YMY?si=HNuP0E3mkIlZBDmx&t=443

@hermesliteratus882 17 күн бұрын

@@pikachus5m166 For some inexplicable reasons, the UK government, not unlike the US, is regarding Chinese made EVs as national security threat and often imposes crazy tariff upon them.

@rosemarymcbride3419 Ай бұрын

turns out planning your economy beyond just maximizing profits in the next quarter is a good way to do things

@jamesrowlands8971 Ай бұрын

Who knew? And the hilarious irony is that Chinese spent the 70s, 80s and 90s going to Western universities to learn key fields like economics, and engineering. They learned the useful bits from us, while we were ahead, and then applied them with their own theories and won.

@sowireless 23 күн бұрын

Capitalism with Chinese characteristics. However, they have had some significant misallocations of capital. Namely real estate, but then again we have had the same kinds of things because of the boom bust nature of our Western capitalism model. They argument is that the so-called free market will self-correct faster than the socialism paradigm. They are sure kicking our ass in sunrise technologies and industries however. Opened up a can of whoop ass on us, as this video so graphically portrays. We are all going to see how this game plays out. So far it's not looking that great for Western capitalism, captured by a dying industry, and taking the entire edifice down with it.

@jamesrowlands8971 23 күн бұрын

@@sowireless the scary thing is the industries that have captured our state are mostly related to the national security apparatus. Meta, Lockheed Martin, Boeing. They get to kill whistleblowers and journalists with impunity, while sending weapons to Nazis and Zionists simultaneously. And not for ideological reasons. But because they want to transfer the wealth of societies into the hands of their shareholders. And the greatest irony of all is that it was the violence around Tiananmen Square in 1989, which landlocked them. The West was happily selling arms to China until then. But then implemented sanctions, forcing the Chinese to return to a mix of domestic defence aquisitions & Russian assistance.

@jabezcrisp7899 Ай бұрын

Remember about 5 years ago when the argument was *still* "Why should we decabronise? China won't do it!" And is now "China decarbonised and everyone wants the technology, it isn't fair!"

@soowo5942 28 күн бұрын

China is ready to share.

@jesan733 28 күн бұрын

AFAIK, China still has more than half of the world's coal generation but only 30% of the world's total electricity generation. China is much, much higher in CO2 emissions per kWh compared to e.g. the US.

@soowo5942 28 күн бұрын

@@jesan733 China needs energy. Coal is what China has.

@jesan733 28 күн бұрын

@@soowo5942 perhaps, but decarbonized it has not.

@yeechut 27 күн бұрын

@@jesan733China's per capita carbon emissions is half that of America's - further more China is producing half of the world's manufacturing goods. Are the Chinese less human than the Westerners?

@jeremyprovence4942 Ай бұрын

Capitalism will ALWAYS sacrifice anyone and anything that does not make a profit for them.

@Pecisk Ай бұрын

And that is biggest difference here. China motives are also relativistic of course, but they are winning this game because capital is incredibly bad with giving up short term profits for long term benefits, especially now.

@jensstubbestergaard6794 13 күн бұрын

80% of fortune 500 support ESG, CBAM and ETS, so it turns out the majority of large capitalistic corporations employ management with brains that prefer their future markets to remain healthy and thriving. The entirety of the fossil fuels clusters in US economy represent 4.8% of the economy, so if they were overnight disrupted the US economy would be sent back to 2022 levels. I am Danish and we are home to the largest corporation in Europe far larger than all EU fossil fuels cluster companies combined and two of our largest companies have divested fossil fuels and we would have dropped any further fossil fuels leases except for the Putin war time pressure.

@willeisinga2089 29 күн бұрын

It is Cheap Electric Cars. Important difference. It is not Cheap Gas Cars. Cheap Electric Cars. Support China ❤.

@punditgi Ай бұрын

Time to follow China's lead and go all in on renewable energy, grid improvements, and battery storage.

@katherinemahon9471 Ай бұрын

I think we should go to water powered cars, cars that make hydrogen and run on hydrogen. We can't make enough electricity for cars and buses without using fossil fuels to create electricity.

@ElwoodEBlues Ай бұрын

@@katherinemahon9471estimations made by German energy Trusts state that the complete electrification auf Motor traffic would increase the demand for electric energy by just twenty percent. This "we cannot produce enough electric energy for all the cars" argument is popular here in Germany as well but nevertheless not valid.

@johnnodge4327 Ай бұрын

@@katherinemahon9471 Last weeks video proved the opposite.

@thingusbingus1268 Ай бұрын

@@katherinemahon9471I'm an electrical engineer this is simply not true. Hydrogen cars are the biggest waste of energy because batteries get the job done for way cheaper, and more energy efficiently. Additionally fossil fuel powered heating and electrification are INCREDIBLY inefficient technologies. For your average car only about 40% of the energy stored in fossil fuel is used to push the car forward. In an electric car, transferring energy from the powerplant to a charging station to a battery to the motors has a round trip efficiency 70-80%. This means we would need HALF as much total energy if we electrify systems. And for a country like USA with so much land it's incredibly easy to build out renewable energy

@BrentonSmythesfieldsaye Ай бұрын

@@katherinemahon9471 "cars that make hydrogen and run on hydrogen." - Let us know when that product has arrived. 😂

@RonanGallagherBand Ай бұрын

Totally agree. European and US Legacy Auto industries sat on their hands for years in the hope they could find a solution that still required production of ICE cars to continue for the lucrative parts market. They allowed disrupters like BYD and Tesla get a major foothold in the game and are now seeking to lobby Europe and the US to put a hold on Chinese imports to protect themselves from their own incompetence and hubris.

@mmparker42 Ай бұрын

Couldn't agree more!

@kimcartmill4190 Ай бұрын

Once again The US is accusing China of doing what the US does. Remember the US selling very cheap corn to countries of South America. Those countries stopped producing corn, so the US then simply raised the price.

@olafsigursons Ай бұрын

China think 1984 was an instruction book.

@astebbin Ай бұрын

Don’t forget the US auto industry bailouts circa 2009.

@dc37009 Ай бұрын

An infantily simplistic summary... So, your saying by comparison China's the good guy (Lame).

@nathangriffiths6218 Ай бұрын

A tale as old as time - back in the 1700s the world centre of cotton textile production was Bengal, India but after it's domestic market was flooded with cheap, popular cloth from India the British introduced the Calico Acts banning the importation of cotton textiles into England. The British then began importing raw Indian cotton to make textiles domestically, which lead to the development of mechanisation of production and Britain itself becoming a world centre of textile production and ironically exporting cloth manufactured from Indian cotton back to India.

@mmparker42 Ай бұрын

@dc37009 not simplistic at all! Gave lots of facts. In 10 years, China will be the world's superpower and the US will have to suck it up!

@lordk.gaimiz6881 Ай бұрын

It's refreshing to see someone pointing at the bad parts of a country without demonizing it into oblivion. I hope to see more people getting on board of that.

@theotherandrew5540 Ай бұрын

If you talk to Chinese people who have lived there, you’ll find the media make a HUGE fuss about a small problem, and much of the reporting in, to put it kindly, “dubious”.

@lordk.gaimiz6881 Ай бұрын

@@theotherandrew5540I mean dubius reporting happens everywhere, I'm just hoping (perhaps naively) that it happens less as time goes on. Regardless, have a good one ^^

@jamesphillips2285 Ай бұрын

@@theotherandrew5540 You also get dissent silenced. Naiomi Wu "had [her] wings clipped" in the last year.

@theotherandrew5540 29 күн бұрын

@@jamesphillips2285Dissenters from the UK government policy on the war in Gaza? I have “dissented”:from the mainstream view of the war in Ukraine, but I can’t get anyone to publish my views. The BBC ridicules such views, especially when expressed by a Russian or someone who has actually lived there.

@sergeykish 29 күн бұрын

@@theotherandrew5540 Have you "dissented" from the mainstream view of WW2? Holocaust? 1938 Germany occupied and annexed Austria and Czechia. 2014, 2022 Russia occupied and annexed Ukraine.

@John-yx6yz 26 күн бұрын

Come on, that Uyghur oppression claim is just bogus. I just watched an English couple touring Xinjiang, there are mosques everywhere, the locals speak Uyghur, signs are in Mandarin and Uyghur/ bilingual, the metro stations are clean and efficient and everyone's going about their daily lives. There are dozens of these videos on KZfaq but the algorithm will simply show you the oppression stuff first.

@seaskyguy 11 күн бұрын

Was going to give him a thumbs up until he mentioned this bogus issue.

@kevinlin4895 Күн бұрын

@@seaskyguyI think he did it intentionally to forestall any accusations that this is paid CCP propaganda

@OkoZungu Ай бұрын

It seems to me that China is doing the right thing. Working hard, planning ahead, investing hugely, and reaping the rewards. Finally, and Best of all, they're keeping ideology out of it.

@mmparker42 Ай бұрын

Very well said!

@StephenPowellebc Ай бұрын

Up to 5 years ago there was this call that the west shouldn't do anything to improve the environment, until China (and India) fixes their impact. Now they have, and the west's response is to say they are doing too much.

@willeisinga2089 29 күн бұрын

America has NATO, AUKUS, QUAD. And the best War Industry in the World. 888 Billion every year for Warfare. The most Budget in the World. So What??? Kneel and Obey. EU does, Japan does, Phillipines does. Taiwan does. Ukraine does. Australia does.

@flutieflambert Ай бұрын

Let’s assume, for argument’s sake, that Chinese government subsidies are making their products more competitive. How is that a bad thing? All that proves is that capitalism can’t compete against a capitalist/socialist hybrid government. That’s not a bad thing unless you’re a billionaire capitalist. And pardon me if I don’t shed a tear for billionaires.

@fabmanly1070 Ай бұрын

Don’t mention any word on the net that ends in ism’ it sends US citizens into fits of uncontrollable spasms.

@nathangriffiths6218 Ай бұрын

If the US hadn't subsidised it's own auto industry to the tune of $80 billion by bailing them out after the GFC there wouldn't even be any US car companies to complain about Chinese competitors getting subsidised.

@user-ju3yu9sh9p 24 күн бұрын

billionaires dont give a fk if you shed a piss

@koiyujo1543 22 күн бұрын

Uh dude as a socialist, china is not capitalist it's a bu'nch of bs from neo libe'rial and libe'rial and capit'alist propag'anda It's a socialist country and of course it's economy is a Market socialist economy it has nothing with capitalist do your research dude... like just no don't always listen to what people tell you because you should still always try to do your own research because they will lie to you trust me on that one unless you trust places with actual good informaiton and actually shows data on a vid like how I use YT for mostly my reserach tool which I try to be careful of who I listen and learn from what source their some good ones I could recommend if ya like chap and a pretty good one too economy wise

@reuireuiop0 15 күн бұрын

@@user-ju3yu9sh9p Kind of missed the point dude. OP basically said a commie govt smartly using capitalist strategies wins out of democratic capitalism. How about that ? Never mind. No one gives a piss what you think anyway.

@richardhasler6718 Ай бұрын

China is a relative newcomer to C02 pollution and the historic efforts of Europe and the USA, over many, many decades got us all into difficulty before the Chinese economy even got going. Add to that the efforts of the Chinese to tack swift action to clean up their power generation and transport systems far quicker than Europe or USA suggests that the problem lies elsewhere.

@LackofFaithify 9 күн бұрын

Don't see any contradictions in being the worlds largest user of Coal, having the highest number of new coal plants planned/under construction and being considered, "green?" I'm sure with all of the EVs and green energy the air quality in China must be at the least not getting even worse.....

@fliprim Ай бұрын

Awesome.... best yet summary. I have been writing this stuff for the last couple of years, but here it is collated and enumerated. I shall be linking here often.

@JustHaveaThink Ай бұрын

Thank you. I really appreciate your feedback :-)

@FLPhotoCatcher Ай бұрын

I think that the man he interviewed was too pro-China. China is running *concentration camps* for crying out loud. We don't need more cheap (in all senses of the word) stuff. The stuff most people have is cluttering their houses and yards, and is polluting their air, water, and land. It soon ends up in landfills and dumps, and pollutes almost all of our air and water. Both R and D admins support the big tariff, and so do I. We need more manufacturing here in America, and promoting Chinese goods is not how to get there.

@mangothing1604 Ай бұрын

Nothing wrong with government subsidies if they improve the lot of everyone in society.

@morganangel340 27 күн бұрын

I don't want my taxes to go to woke people who buy glorified golf carts.

@user-pl7tr5zq2v 3 күн бұрын

The problem is that Chinese EV doesn't have a subsidy, and its price in other countries is much more expensive than China..

@erikdyrssen777 22 күн бұрын

US “China you are innovating too well. You have to slow down so we can catch up.”

@chipgrono5237 Ай бұрын

Info in here may be, all available elsewhere, but you did a great job at consolidating it and presenting it 🙏🏻

@JustHaveaThink Ай бұрын

Thank you :-)

@5kribbles Ай бұрын

Why is it fine for western companies to outsource all of their production to China to reduce cost of goods sold in US and Europe. But as soon as Chinese companies start producing their own goods and selling them competitively in US and Europe everyone loses their minds. Why should prefer wealthy western shareholders profiting from Chinese production over Chinese business owners and the Chinese state, because I really don't.

@jhunt5578 Ай бұрын

You should care because it harms our economies. China don't just allow companies from the West to go in. Many are banned. And if they get in they must partner with a Chinese company and share profits. The only acception I know of is Tesla, China bent the rules for them because they wanted to learn and grow their EV market.

@fenrirgg Ай бұрын

Because it benefits their own countries. If Chïnëse companies take the production and market then it affects their industries so they try to stop that. Most countries try the same including Chïnä.

@dogbreath6974 Ай бұрын

@@jhunt5578 Yeah I feel sorry for Apples economy, they must be nearing bankruptcy.

@antred11 Ай бұрын

Everyone with 2 brain cells to rub together has known for decades that all this outsourcing nonsense would eventually lead to China soaking up all the technological know-how and then outdoing the West and beating it at its own game, but all these "sMaRT" capitalist CEO douchebags knew better, of course. 🤡

@G11713 Ай бұрын

Wealthy western elites don't seem to eagerly pay their share of taxes or advocate for public spending on Healthcare, environmental protection, public financing of elections, etc. In fact, to the extent Chinese elites aren't pushing fossil fuels aren't they a net benefit in comparison? Lol.

@dominicwalsh3888 Ай бұрын

China's contribution to global progress is always overlooked, and that's a result of both racism and the stigmsatisation of communism. It's interesting to me that you went with the media line in discussing oppression in China, and mentioned the Uighur community. These issues are real, but, you're normally good at looking at the numbers. I challenge you to look at and discuss the incarceration rates in China compared with "western" countries, and also their racial makeup compared to the balance of those countries. Then ask yourself why you felt the way you did about the situation without having looked at the numbers.

@mafarmerga Ай бұрын

Here in the US State of Georgia officials have promised billions to EV and battery manufacturers. To pretend that we are not guilty of government subsidies is pure bollocks.

@Pecisk Ай бұрын

Subsidies are only way West capital can be made interested in tackling even lip service change for climate.

@alfredotto7525 Ай бұрын

China's ev industry is being paid for by us. And Europeans. This is like yelling at the cow for being outside because you left the barn door open.

@TankEnMate Ай бұрын

There is one big difference between the Chinese direct subsidies and the US direct subsidies; the Chinese subsidies are paid to the manufacturers per car manufactured, the US subsidies are paid to the purchaser per car bought. So this makes it economically profitable for Chinese companies to dump overseas but it doesn't make it economically profitable for US manufacturers to do the same. Obviously some have posited that these forms of Chinese subsidies are deliberately done this way to harm non Chinese manufacturers.

@douglashurd4356 Ай бұрын

@@TankEnMate Review the video from 5:20 to 6:10.

@jmanakajosh9354 Ай бұрын

@@TankEnMate Scale the idea that we spend hundreds of millions and China spends trillions and the two are comparable is CRAZY

@dannydenison6253 Ай бұрын

Chinas been absolutely kicking ass in the battle against climate change. And for that alone is enough to gain my praise

@goldreverre Ай бұрын

别相信共产党的胡说八道。

@haroldwood1394 Ай бұрын

The La Trobe Valley in Australia not only sold off its state-owned coal-fired generation system, but at governmental and union levels fought against clean renewables. The local communities were deskilled and unemployed; manufacturing moved offshore. 'Proudly designed in Australia' but actually made in China represented much of Australia's technological response.

@jamesrowlands8971 Ай бұрын

I'm from that region. One of the truly rust-belted parts of Australia; with chronic disease and unemployment leading to premature deaths in what is otherwise a country where people have good outcomes.

@haroldwood1394 Ай бұрын

@@jamesrowlands8971 Hello, James. I went to the Traralgon Technical school. Because of its connection to the then SEC and to the paper mill, it had an excellent set of workshops and science labs, etc. It produced people who went on to be world-class engineers and experts in computing. We were learning about solar power and wind generation back in the late 60's and 70's. The jump to communities based around renewable energy could certainly have been made - all the skills were there. However, the coal unions (much of the CFMEU) and the Kennett Liberal government opposed these changes, and the government simply sold off the SEC and the livelihoods of the communities in the area. Businesses, like Kayser, which were making profits, dumped their workers and went overseas to make bigger profits. There are reasons why the region is rust-belted; it wasn't always that way. I'm sure that you already know this. Best wishes to you.

@sowireless 23 күн бұрын

Technological disintermediation. It comes whether you want it or not. The question is, are you riding The wave as the Chinese apparently are doing, or are you being crushed by it. The wave is coming no matter what.

@haroldwood1394 23 күн бұрын

@@sowireless Agreed. I recall learning about and even trying to make alternative energy sources as a student in the La Trobe Valley. The government of the time and the coal unions actively opposed movement towards renewables.

@jamesrowlands8971 23 күн бұрын

@@haroldwood1394 were they libs or were they telling the truth?

@charlesashurst1816 Ай бұрын

It can’t be China is better at capitalism than we are. Can it?

@Pecisk Ай бұрын

Industrialism. Other economic systems can and have produced goods. Problem for West is that their industrial creativity has been replaced by profits all the time. But they can't blame themselves, can they.

@greg5023 Ай бұрын

Totalitarianism for sure.

@mangothing1604 Ай бұрын

Not totalitarianism. It's the government working for the benefit of society. The only difference is that the government decides what's good for society vs. private companies. America needs to get over unfettered capitalism as the panacea for everything.

@charlesashurst1816 Ай бұрын

@@mangothing1604 I agree that extremely concentrated corporate power in the USA is a threat not only to our democracy but our capacity to face challenges such as our greenhouse gas emissions. Once wealth and power get so concentrated that they can't be successfully challenged, it's not just the end of democracy; it's extinction. And you know, China has a different but in some ways similar problem. Xi Jin Ping has amassed so much concentrated power that no one can challenge him. The result is a society that can't or won't self-correct when it goes wrong.

@charlesashurst1816 Ай бұрын

@@mangothing1604 The like heeyuge problem for the USA right now. The South has risen again and wants to turn the USA into one big 19th century slave plantation. Think Walt Disney's Song of the Fucking South. The fuckers just might pull it off too. They are so close. Will the USA fail in the grand experiment of citizen rule? Stay tuned.

@rossglory4631 Ай бұрын

re subsidies, every major country used subsidy and protectionism to initially grow their economies. and most still use them (uk is subsidising companies to set up in the uk after brexit scared them off).

@mafarmerga Ай бұрын

Put a border adjusted tax on CO2 instead of directly on EVs. That would solve two problems at once. Level the playing field and getting them to move away from coal energy production

@red_skeleton Ай бұрын

Tackling climate change should be an all hands on deck/we're all in this together type of moment. The time for anti-China propaganda, reactionary tariffs, crippling embargos and sanctions needs to end. It's too big of a problem for any single country to tackle, we need to learn how to work together (mostly criticizing the aggressive approach of Western foreign policy, if that weren't obvious).

@Pecisk Ай бұрын

We will fall divided. Unfortunately I feel this end becomes more and more real.

@red_skeleton Ай бұрын

@@Pecisk It's certainly hard to remain hopeful. I believe the US would rather destroy the planet than relinquish an iota of power.

@keithv3767 Ай бұрын

@@red_skeletonHmmm. You think the U.S. is the problem. Ok, you’re stating your opinion in free and open media and you will receive no knock at the door jailing you for stating that opinion because the platform you are using is in the U.S. If you lived in China, would you have that luxury? When Russia invaded Ukraine, a lot of Europeans came out of their delusion that the U.S.’s military has been built only for world domination. Maybe there is some wisdom in having a NATO able to defend our mutual interests? And maybe NATO needs to have military might strong enough to dissuade dictators who really do seek domination.

@kevindrew7621 Ай бұрын

Great point Red! I’ve been delusionally imagining that the growing resistance to militarism in both Ukraine and Israel/Gaza, just starting to peak this week, could indicate some unconscious symbiotic realization that militarism, unfettered consumer capitalism and corporate/government control will surely DOOM us all - and that each of us, individually and nationally, must choose logical, creative, effective, loving, collaborative pathways forward instead of the “same old, same old” USA Uber Alles. Hurray for the Chinese people, their govt and their incredible history of making a giant culture work - warts and all!! Please let my delusion be real! Thanks too, JHAT for an inspiring episode!!!

@12pentaborane Ай бұрын

As much as I agree climate change and greening energy production is an international effort, relying on China to provide products in good faith might be a stretch.

@davidroetzel5500 Ай бұрын

Sometimes economics is just warfare by a different means.

@nekoJens Ай бұрын

Especially since in China there is no separate economy, it is all part of the CCP state. China seems to have learned more from WW2 than Germany and Japan in that importing energy in the form of oil is posing a huge risk… so yes, China is going all in on renewables, which is also preparing it for a future war by making it less exposed to marine shipping chokepoints.

@michealwestfall8544 Ай бұрын

China has 3 times the population of USA, their pollution is less than 3 times that of USA. Seems fair to me. More people, more industry, more pollution.

@incognitotorpedo42 Ай бұрын

It's not a contest. We all need to get to net zero.

@hdhdhshscbxhdh4195 Күн бұрын

@@incognitotorpedo42yes everyone needs to get to zero. But when one country does not put much effort into doing so and uses the excuse that a different country is emitting more, that needs to be called out. For the record, on a per capita basis USA is emitting 2x CO2 compared to China. Also on a historical basis (since previously emitted CO2 still contributes to climate change and don't disappear) USA also emitted 2x compared to China in nominal CO2 emissions (without even adjusting for population).

@zuriyel5368 16 сағат бұрын

It's 4.1 times the population of USA, but it's a good point to make.

@jowenzel Ай бұрын

what a can of worms your opening up, but thanks for saying it

@JustHaveaThink Ай бұрын

No worries!

@philipdenner5690 Ай бұрын

The strides made in China should be celebrated. Rather than do that the real centres of political power in the west whose knee jerk reaction to competitors is to set loose their media with false accusations of human rights violations and threaten economic sanctions or war. 500 years of this approach is now coming to an end and the childish statements of US officials such as Yellen or Blinken are a sign of panic. Their deindustrialised and financial used economies simply cannot provide for the needs of their populations.: derivatives do not make up for efficient manufacturing. When the BRICS nations offer a financial settlement system the US$ will wither and the free lunches provided by its former status disappear. The US will no doubt survive given size and resources. The UK would be wise to adopt the scenario you outlined of embracing Chinese companies and expertise. Whether it has the sovereign capacity to do that given it is fused to the US hip remains to be seen.

@achenarmyst2156 Ай бұрын

Fantastic content. And no ads and sponsorships are a massive achievement. No wonder Dave‘s channel is getting ever growing attention in the scene. Thanks from a long term subscriber.

@JasonSmith-jv7wl Ай бұрын

0 surprises for anyone who actually understands how a non-capitalist company operates. They can organize things for the long term instead of being forced to constantly shoot themselves in the foot for short term boosts to make shareholders happy.

@jonathandewberry289 Ай бұрын

China's government took a massive amount of it's people's wealth to subsidize a huge glut of EVs that lose money for no other purpose but to try and kill Euro and other EV car companies. You think about that for a while.

@Pecisk Ай бұрын

Yep, West obsession with wealth has come to its head. Funny enough West after WWII would be able to tackle global warming. Not anymore.

@gugutvil5245 Ай бұрын

The trend of looking at short term is not inherent to the capitalist system. it is more to do with the way public companies are working, and not all companies work in this way. While the Chinese system could work, it will not. The reason is that when you have a very strong leader, who is there for too long - it will fail, it always did and and always will.

@PhilippeOrlando Ай бұрын

You got it!

@colorpg152 Ай бұрын

@@gugutvil5245 and here comes to anarco cap apologist "if something went wrong its the government's fault even when another non capitalistic government is clearly doing it better"

@ncandrew1215 Ай бұрын

That is a lot to think about. Thanks, Dave, for another great presentation of (sometimes depressing) information!

@JustHaveaThink Ай бұрын

Thanks for your feedback :-)

@bugsygoo Ай бұрын

It's crazy here in China. Every week I see a new EV that I've never seen by a brand I've never heard of. I do wonder if they are setting themselves up for yet another bubble by oversupplying the market and everyone getting on the EV bandwagon. There's form for that in China!

@jhunt5578 Ай бұрын

That happens in a lot of new markets. Consolidation will happen. Only the best EV makers will survive.

@jamesgrover2005 Ай бұрын

Capitalism is over supply. There will be winners and losers. Sometimes the losers are the future generations all around the world.

@dpsdps01 Ай бұрын

That's how chinese smartphone companies started. And now, they dominate the market.

@davidlazarus67 Ай бұрын

China are developing their manufacturing so they can minimise costs when they start selling to the Global Majority.

@davidlazarus67 Ай бұрын

I predicted a decade ago that only Tesla and Chinese brands would dominate. China had a huge advantage. No legacy technology and an industrial policy.

@alandalgety4073 Ай бұрын

Excellent episode as usual. Thanks for keeping me thinking.

@JustHaveaThink Ай бұрын

Cheers Alan.

@durwoodmaccool890 Ай бұрын

Great video again, thanks Dave! Awesome to see Micheal, I'm a big fan of his stuff on Cleantechnica. If the US wants to promote human rights, it could do a lot right at home. Lead by example.

@angelic8632002 Ай бұрын

We have a bit of a myopic view on economics here in the West, in my opinion. If it doesn't vibe with capitalism, it doesn't happen. Problem being, capitalistic systems cant deal with every eventuality. Climate change being a prime example. What it all comes down to is that a few decades of stagnant growth while we figure things out is a lot more manageable than what would happen if we don't get our act together, fast. The economic cost alone would be catastrophic, to the point of being incalculable. Not to mention the humanitarian and ecological aspect.

@Pecisk Ай бұрын

Capitalism is good at effectively siphoning resources. That is all. It really does not do any changes well.

@angelic8632002 Ай бұрын

@@Pecisk Yea, all adjustment are made retroactively. Which is a huge problem.

@timeenoughforart Ай бұрын

China at 31% of Coal and the US at 13% still leaves the US at a significantly higher per capita use of coal.

@stickynorth Ай бұрын

And with fewer plans to replace or phase it out...

@dannydenison6253 Ай бұрын

And we should always get into, who is the worlds factory? Essential countries exporting their coal usage. Who has 4 times the population, and is still developing? Portion of gdp spent on the transition? On so so so many levels. China is leading the charge to a green society.

@r.1599 Ай бұрын

62% - 66% of China's electricity was generated from fossil fuels in 2023. 60% of US electricity was generated from Fossil fuels in 2023.

@shanecollie5177 20 күн бұрын

@@r.1599 Inconvenient facts don't compute with the morons here.

@fredericoamigo Ай бұрын

This was a really uplifting, interesting and well made video. Thank you for sharing your brilliant content, and keep up the good work!

@davidmenasco5743 Ай бұрын

Very topical video. Just the content I've been, well, thinking about looking for.

@kevindexterpattee Ай бұрын

Thank you for the non-biased and informative content. Really interesting stuff:)

@damienflinter4585 Ай бұрын

Great presentation. Keep educating us.

@JustHaveaThink Ай бұрын

Thank you. I will do my best :-)

@kevinmcgrane4279 Ай бұрын

Good video. Informative, as usual. Many thanks!

@SixSigmaPi 29 күн бұрын

Fascinating and insightful. Great video!

@marksibley5406 Ай бұрын

Your analysis seems spot on. Having travelled to China multiple times for business and pleasure I’ve seen the blistering pace of modernization. Especially when travelling outside the major cities you see this change reflected in ultra-modern and the opposite in close proximity. “Borrowing” Intellectual property has been one factor in their rise, but as you point out choices made a decade or more ago have translated first mover advantage into a hard to compete with force - both in manufacturing and R & D.

@YoutubeWatcher264 Ай бұрын

How is the air pollution though? How are the newly built coal power plants?

@norb.engineering Ай бұрын

When is your next trip back?

@philflip1963 Ай бұрын

Dave is so right on this one, decades ago China was portrayed as the climates greatest looming threat due to it's economic/industrial expansion and emissions from coal. It would be naieve to assume that China is embracing renewables just out of the goodness of it's heart, renewables and electrification are more efficient and make China energy indepencent. Whatever, the case this is good news for us all. As far as it's growing industrial capacity is concerned, if The West considers this to be a problem then why don't we stop buying what they produce!

@peterh5165 Ай бұрын

China also embraced eVs because of enormous air pollution in their big cities. A dozen years ago Beijing had some of the worse air pollution: now Beijing has pretty clean air as a result of enacting huge fees on anyone wanting to license a ICE vehicle in Beijing..

@goldriverbank6647 10 күн бұрын

Don't buy Chinese stuff if you can. Do it and not do by merely using mouth.

@benetedmunds Ай бұрын

Fascinating video. Many thanks!

@robertdavison4896 Ай бұрын

Nice one Dave, you nailed it again .

@realdemocracy11 25 күн бұрын

Good stuff but you need to check out what the investigative journalists at the Gray Zone have found out about the accusations of human rights abuses in Xinjiang.

@lachlandoughty545 Ай бұрын

Mutually respectful Social and Political engagement, as well as economic between “The West” and China is long overdue.

@jaygoodrich9568 Ай бұрын

I love your work Dave. Thanks very much for this, and all that you do.

@nottelling41 Сағат бұрын

Perhaps your best and most prophetic video yet! Really well informed and forward thinking with great guest contributions and an honest economic discussion. Also scary because China is only vulnerable whilst it is still the largest oil and coal importer

@rodrigomohr1277 Ай бұрын

China is just far more competitive than the US and Europe. If they are worried about Chinese productivity, they should focus on improving their industrial capabilities.

@autohmae Ай бұрын

Honestly, the point is: if you do it now, it's probably already to late.

@bugsygoo Ай бұрын

You also have to ask why it's so competitive. I mean, solar panels have come down in price thanks to China. But using Ugyhr prison labour isn't a great model.

@ogribiker8535 Ай бұрын

Cheap labour, no health and safety, no eco regulation!. Yeah great.

@autohmae Ай бұрын

@@bugsygoo sure, their is some of that, but you know what the cheapest labor is ? Robotics and automation. Foxconn, 1 of the biggest electronics companies and employers in the world at the time, had their peak number of employees in 2017: 1.3 million, they've automated away almost half of them and production is obviously up as well. What is 1 of the products they make ? industrial robots.

@rudolfespinola9231 Ай бұрын

@@bugsygoo They are far more competitive because they use their resources to develop their industry, education and infrastructure, while the US spends most of their resources on military endeavours abroad, and the Europeans cut themselves from affordable energy from Russia making their industry uncompetitive. Meanwhile China imports energy from Russia, Iran and the rest of the world improving their cost competitiveness even more.

@willeisinga2089 29 күн бұрын

China has 666 Gigawatt Solar. In 2025 1000 Gigawatt Solar.

@craigknight2764 Ай бұрын

Great and informative episode, thankyou Dave!

@sjclec Ай бұрын

Bravo for your balance and information. Many thanks.

@marshalepage5330 Ай бұрын

This argument feels like a contradiction, because a large amount of China's emissions is for western consumption, then western nation preventing trade would also decrease the emissions. If what China was selling were public transportation instead of private EVs then it would be a lot more helpful for the planet than more of the same thing, we already have private vehicles.

@keithv3767 Ай бұрын

I’m not sure. Public transportation also has inefficiencies. Most studies show that autonomous cars in an Uber ride share model would be much more efficient than running half empty trains most the day .

@olamilekanakala7542 Ай бұрын

@@keithv3767 Efficient in what sense? Definitely not space or materials. And I doubt it's overall more energy efficient, either.

@musiqtee Ай бұрын

The contradiction is just as true within our realm. My country sells gas to Europe, puts the proceeds into a fund that can only “invest” abroad, hiking energy prices also within Norway (common energy market hoax). And we are 95 percent hydroelectric domestically, no gas plants, 9 of 10 new cars are EVs… Buying a home is just as crazy as everywhere else in OECD (worst generational divide as of 2023, report), so who are the real “winners” here…?

@dogphlap6749 Ай бұрын

China produces and exports plenty of electric buses which compete favorably with European and US electric buses in their respective domestic and overseas markets.

@thingusbingus1268 Ай бұрын

You think China doesn't manufacture trains and busses ? You should look up the roll out of public electric powered busses in China. China produces literally everything, do you want to buy it ? No

@WorkBook-xv2hy Ай бұрын

That's why a 10K € chinese EV costs 25K € in Germany!!!

@bugfeatures Ай бұрын

Yeah, the hongguang mini ev costs 5000€ in china and more than 10k€ in europe under the name nikrob freze

@jhunt5578 Ай бұрын

The only Chinese EV maker who makes money on EVs is BYD and they get 1% margin. China I'd far too competitive for higher prices. The European and other global markets have room for higher prices.

@aniksamiurrahman6365 Ай бұрын

F U average european consumer. How dare u expect to enjoy a cheaper yet better product when that'll reduce your billionaire's wealth?

@aniksamiurrahman6365 Ай бұрын

F U avg European consumer. How dare u to expect to get a cheap yet better product in expense of your own billionaires.

@davidlazarus67 Ай бұрын

@@jhunt5578I think more are making money but yes it is still very competitive.

@juanandresmarambio 26 күн бұрын

2:40 Great video! Thanks a lot! Kind regards from Chile!

@polanve Ай бұрын

I look forward to this show every Sunday! Very well done.

@ericnoriega547 Ай бұрын

I would say that this is across the board great news for the world. I think it's fantastic that China is getting on top of the problem of decarbonization, and I think it's wonderful as a model. And of course there is the but, where I think that China is generally Their Own Worst Enemy when it comes to their behavior beyond their borders. I also think that when I look at how they treat their direct neighbors it gives me real pause. Their claim of the South China Sea ignoring any other claims, their view of Taiwan, the Uyghur, and how they treat the Philippines All of these lead to a feeling of trepidation that once the Dragon is able to take care of its problems at home it will turn its attention to its nearest Neighbors. As a critique I would mention the systems in Europe and in the United States are rarely viewed at the level of the country or block, but that's exactly what we do with China when we look for the outside. I wonder how wonderful it was for all the people inside of China when these changes were being made unilaterally. I think that the process matters. We wouldn't accept unilateral judgment in our own countries, and I think the fact that they made a good bet at one point can't be fully negated considering what it might have taken to get there. I don't claim to have direct knowledge of that but I think that it's not a one-to-one comparison. Maybe the biggest takeaway is that you can't separate the political situation given the vast difference in societies, it's impossible to come away with a simple view from such a complicated problem. Definitely a good think though.

@YoutubeWatcher264 Ай бұрын

Wow the west bought China's lies it seems. China is building six times more new coal plants than other countries, report finds MARCH 2, 20236:00 AM ET

@sparkysho-ze7nm Ай бұрын

…….. can relate

@YoutubeWatcher264 Ай бұрын

Not just about the borders. They are known to fake their data, take shortcuts, not follow up or reverse their promises, say one thing do another, etc.

@YoutubeWatcher264 Ай бұрын

Believe it when they actually did it.

@E1Luch Ай бұрын

Their Uighur opression was bad but it ended years ago, and its not me pulling this out of my ass, western outlets wrote about it. Meanwhile Israel is allowed to do whatever it wants with full backing by the USA and nobody cares. Western hypocricy regarding foreign policy is blatanly obvious to anyone paying attention. Tossing stones at China while living under a glass roof will get you nowhere, it will only lead to further escalation of tensions which would be disasterous for both sides, especially given how China is de-facto the factory of the world.

@proffessorclueless Ай бұрын

The other reasons not to blame China for its emissions is per capita CO2 and the amount of CO2 emitted to produce items for western consumption.

@Pecisk Ай бұрын

Another very solid point.

@brushlessmotoring Ай бұрын

Yeah - I though the pie graph chart for China's emissions would be split into emissions for exported goods vs. internal, you can argue that we are just outsourcing our manufacturing emissions and then pointing the finger and tutting at the country we asked to make everything for us!

@matthiasknutzen6061 Ай бұрын

Per capita they are pretty much equal to eu? Also climate change "doesn't care" about per capita only total.... If Luxembourg keeps building coal and apartment buildings that stand empty that's not a big deal, if China does it is a big deal. And look up China's consumption based vs Production based emission, a majority is from thier own consumption not export.

@davidlazarus67 Ай бұрын

@@matthiasknutzen6061Chinas per capita carbon is peaking as they are making more of their energy from renewables. Plus they are still the global factory.

@matthiasknutzen6061 Ай бұрын

@@davidlazarus67 source? Also so what? They still use more coal than the rest of the world combined (iirc), don't plan to peak coal consumption for a DECADE Why are people defending china??? really don't get it, often with plain wrong "facts". Yea it's good that they renewables and nuclear but they aren't building enough. And they should stop wasting cement for empty buildings.

@marcopaluszny 28 күн бұрын

that was a very informative presentation, congrats

@brendanwallace4661 Ай бұрын

Another absolute banger of an episode. Well done Dave!

@decimal1815 Ай бұрын

Fascinating. Thank you.

@harry664 Ай бұрын

Second this ^^ brilliant stuff

@JustHaveaThink Ай бұрын

Cheers! :-)

@gummyberryjoos1693 Ай бұрын

Great video! Im a political scientist as well as a chinese linguist; this commentary is so valuable!

@JustHaveaThink Ай бұрын

Thank you. I'm glad you enjoyed it.

@aquelpibe Ай бұрын

Brilliant analysis as usual. Thank you.

@angeladawn805 Ай бұрын

Another excellent and thought provoking video. Many thanks 😊

@CLechleitner42 Ай бұрын

Brilliant video!

@JustHaveaThink Ай бұрын

Glad you liked it!

@TheShanewalsh Ай бұрын

Excellent presentation. Thank you.

@JustHaveaThink Ай бұрын

Cheers.

@buscseik Ай бұрын

Very good video, thank you.

@sebastiensirois8915 29 күн бұрын

Great video. Good to see various angles of the same facts.

@williamk9490 Ай бұрын

There needs to be more positive approach to relations with China - the negativity seems to be driven from USA with right wing think tanks also spreading this alarming view about China. This video has reported the huge progress and advances that China is achieving

@juezna Ай бұрын

Excellent video as always Dave.

@JustHaveaThink Ай бұрын

Many thanks!

@duncanedwards8258 Ай бұрын

Good vid! Extra points for using the term "Stranded assets" ... which I'm pretty sure will be a real buzz-phase of the next five years ;)

@seangibbons6520 Ай бұрын

A very good video keep up the great work

@magnetospin Ай бұрын

I feel like this video is a response to my comment just a few days ago about not having content outside of the western sphere. A well deserved kick to my butt.

@Lewis_Standing Ай бұрын

We can be a bit quick to judge in the west and forget our own ills. Like the UK's involvement in the slave trade, the world's first concentration camps in Nigeria and later the Boer wars. Our catastrophic management of Palestine. Starving India during WW2 . Afghanistan, Iraq. Ireland. Plenty more. Equally someone more informed than I could do for the United States.

@sb6489 Ай бұрын

And Peterloo.

@johnkraai5185 Ай бұрын

Great info! 👍🏼

@KOSTNOT Ай бұрын

Thank you for continuing to be an excellent thought leader on these pivotal issues.

@Amalgamotion Ай бұрын

When the governments beholden to capitalism sells of entire industries to a country that isn't beholden to capitalism. You get what we have here

@michasosnowski5918 Ай бұрын

I am pissed at our politicians(cant name them leaders), who would put interest of our auto companies in front of our own and the climate. Good for you Dave to talk about it objectively. I would gladly put my finger on one of those, becouse as far as I would love to have Tesla, I need to wait for 3rd market in maybe 10-15 years to get one($$$$). When it comes to general policy. I would like our politicians to work closely with China, allow them free trade, and stop looking across the big pond for answers(USA). USA at this point is mainly focused on its military, instead of climate. Its dying, and we should not lean or support them in that, rather cut those ties and work with the future, which means China. But there is so much propaganda and political sh*t going on between our governments that I find it being a challenge...

@YoutubeWatcher264 Ай бұрын

China is building six times more new coal plants than other countries, report finds MARCH 2, 2023 6:00 AM ET

@autohmae Ай бұрын

@@KZfaqWatcher264 and they use it as peaker plants, as the video mentioned.

@keithheaven176 Ай бұрын

As long as the CCP continues to brutally suppress the Tibetans, the Uighurs, human rights campaigners, and their lawyers, I will try to do the seemingky impossible and avoid supporting China. I'm sick of the way capitalism and communism have connived in the betrayal of humanity. I am not interested in supporting the apparently overriding hunger for some people for a shiny new cheap car. The delusion of unsustainable consumerism got us into this mess.

@royk7712 Ай бұрын

@KZfaqWatcher264 they are mostly idle and only being used to prevent widespread power outage when industry consumption at its peak

@YoutubeWatcher264 Ай бұрын

@@royk7712 Yup. If we are to believe China (CCP). When did they ever lie.

@JohnBinay 25 күн бұрын

This video deserves much more views!

@jimellaboudy544 26 күн бұрын

Great video!

@robfee2065 Ай бұрын

Talk about missing the boat!! Brilliant thank you

@HighWealder Ай бұрын

It's a race to the bottom when it comes to the cost of production, so China wins.

@youngwt1 Ай бұрын

China is not the cheapest place to manufacture any more, however the way they’ve clustered their industry has made their supply chains incredibly hard to beat

@nathangriffiths6218 Ай бұрын

We need to remember that we in the West *chose* this outcome by demanding ever cheaper prices for products, below anything that could be achieved in our own economies.

@steveburke7675 Ай бұрын

...until the moment Vietnam, Thailand and Mexico begin producing them....oh wait...Thailand already is.

@douglasashby4349 29 күн бұрын

Thank you! That was a well researched article and leaving it open at conclusion is good

@mathewemden2068 Ай бұрын

great episode. Lots of information with no politics. A lot to think about.

@steverichmond7142 Ай бұрын

As a simple measure I've bought an MG- Designed in part in the UK and manufactured in China... About half the price of a European EV and far better quality.

@TheTonycima Ай бұрын

I have an MG EV also. Are you sure it was designed, even in part, in the UK? I don't think so. Reference please (I'd love it to be true).

@steverichmond7142 Ай бұрын

@@TheTonycima There is something called the MG Advanced Design Centre - based in London - opened in 2018.

@TheTonycima Ай бұрын

@@steverichmond7142 Thank you. That's encouraging! I feel slightly less guilty about my Chinese MG now.

@steverichmond7142 Ай бұрын

@@TheTonycima MG are doing a lot of things with cheap, efficient UK designed cars for the mass market.

@BaldurvanLew Ай бұрын

I think the supply issues triggered by the COVID crisis shows us why we shouldn't let everything be manufactured on the other side of the world. In addition while I'm happy that China is making great progress on it's green targets, over-dependency on a country that will not step up and tell it's ally Russia to stop the ongoing invasion of a European country seems rather naive. The advantage to China of that implicit support is cheap fossil fuel.

@aniksamiurrahman6365 Ай бұрын

Its NATO who barred Russia from deplomacy and pushed them to war. Why ud Russia just sit around and accept gung ho Russophobic policies of Ukraine and its rapid NATO led militarization? It's the west who began the war. And its the west who want to be independent? Sounds like the rapist want his virginity back.

@davidlazarus67 Ай бұрын

Most of the supply chain problems were not in China. There were huge queues of ships outside US ports waiting to enter, then problems transporting the containers within the country because of domestic regulations. China has a few lockdowns that were quickly lifted when the local infection rates dropped. It was usually within a month and not all areas were impacted. Rail shipments to Asia and Europe were not impacted at all.