Thumbs up for being willing to face your concerns and realizing that being an introvert doesn't mean being a hermit.

Good points. I lived in residence at University on the 8th floor of a building and it was much like the one you described, same little rooms, but shared bathrooms, common living rooms and kitchen area. Some things were awkward, for sure, like shared bathrooms and sometimes the living room area, but overall, it was a tremendously positive experience for me who grew up in a small family. I got to see and interact with so many different people from different walks of life. Came together and had a group who enjoyed watching The Office on Thursday nights, or a group would enjoy a games night or movie night, or we'd make up some completely different activity to do as a floor. I met people from other countries, I got introduced to playing squash for the first time ever, really got into and had a lot of fun, and just overall felt a lot of community and support during my 2 years in res. Just extend that to a wider community and I think many people would enjoy that. When housing is made, I think the key thing is that is has the intention, like the presenter said, for people to interact. You need certain spaces, like a common living room/dining area, a outdoor courtyard, maybe a shared rooftop garden or storage shed. Because I live in a apartment-style condo now. It's 3 floors, about 16 units, two buildings. There is no common space except for the hallways and very hilly grassy areas outside. No intention or incentive to meet neighbours. But neighbours are different ages, different backgrounds and sure, I probably wouldn't get along with all of them all of the time, but I would have more reason to get to know them and may learn a lot and have some great shared experiences. Will never know because that's not how most housing units are built in the West. Even in big apartment buildings it's isolated! Ironic! There are about 30+ other people in the 2 buildings I'm part of yet if I passed 95% on the street, I wouldn't know that they lived in the same buildings as me. I hope to see a shift in Western planning and design. Even those suburbs could do better with building a sense of community for each street/neighbourhood, encourage the hosting of block parties and street events. Growing up in a small single-family home neighbourhood I knew a great deal of my neighbours. I was a kid and we and the parents would get outside a lot. Go breakout with a game of road hockey, tag, or whatever fun games we could come up with. Knocking on doors, inviting more to come out. If someone in the neighbourhood did have a pool, they would often let any interested neighbourhood kids come use it on those hot summer days. One year they even managed to get swim instructors to come give swimming lessons at the pool. But now, I don't see that in most neighbourhoods.

Youre not introverted more like you have social anxiety

with community like you, it could be deesusteres

BIGFOOT WHISPERER'S HUB i think the ones wich are open to this tend to be the "right ones" :D :)

Big Foot has a point.

U gotta keep smart phones out

The same could be said about any neighborhood with potential "disaster" neighbors. The difference is these type of communities are under more control with their own set of CC&R's, which gives them more power to deal with problems than a problem neighbor in a non cohousing neighborhood.

Janet Sheppard Sounds Awesome!

Its great to see that western countries are appreciating cohousing concepts and are working in this direction, its just like the concept of Indian Joint families.

Vancouver island? How many co-housers do you need to afford that? On my pay, I'd need 20. 😗😁

A byproduct of something like this is that you ultimately densify the area you are living in. This can add new jobs in your area, such that you maybe don't have to commute as far.

@@ScooterinAB Or find other like-minded people in your area with this same way of thinking and make it happen.

This gives you a chance to know and trust more people. What happens when you are 60 and the people you know and trust don't call, moved away, or have died?

Wow that is actually a really interesting point Im an introvert and have thought about community things but they make me kindof scared this is actually a really good point

Yes unless one or more are drummers and others are classical musicians. ;)

I mean you could install sound proofing

that sounds awsome. Can I ask where that costal village was? I'm so curious. I would love to move to a place like that

It's not. Citing loneliness is just a ploy for us empathetic people to buy what they're selling, which is just literal apartment complexes. Apartment complexes do not help with loneliness. I would love to help people with loneliness, but a building will never do what a simple hello will, regardless of housing arrangement. I guarantee you people who live in these places will retreat into the confines of their individual space so they can hide from the crushing weight of continuous social responsibility.

Casper Mason Candlewood I love how everyone just ignores you😂😂

Chris De Bruin How do you know everyone is ignoring Casper? The comment has a few thumbs up.

Casper Mason Candlewood you're perfectly right the richer a society becomes the less dependent they becomes on each other the more arrogant we become and the more loneliness life become if you want to fight loneliness go live among or close to some lower class immigrant community where people still depend on each other

And I would suggest that youth (especially) suicide rates are very high because dumbass doctors hand out SSRIs like candy to anyone who they give a 2 minute test to for depression, and the reaction some people have to SSRIs is almost instantaneous suicidal and homicidal ideations which are devastating in their intensity. A teenager or young adult would have no idea that the pill they've only been taking a few days from their 'doctor' would have that aggressive a side effect. They would also not be savvy enough to call for help, call the doc and say 'I'm worse, not better!' They retreat into themselves, still taking the pill hoping to improve. There is plenty of documentation about this, the TV ads mention it in very rapid passing, but it's almost unknown. It's possible that most if not all mass murderers we've seen lately have been on psychotropic drugs and that the drugs were the real culprit.

The problem is that by merely existing, this talk is igniting a societal assumption of cohousing as a necessity, much like the open-plan workplace, which has been lauded the optimal workspace, which has never proven to be true, and a product of viral movements such as this. As such, those content with their private spaces will eventually be assimilated into this ideal they do not consent to.

I don't think she's saying that it's necessary. It's just an idea and would work for some people. We're allowed to have ideas you know.

Sounds like a society of hells minions

The reason many posters are freaking out is because they see it as a reflection of a trend, supported by governmental bodies. You can bet that this idea already has traction with planners due to lower cost. It would certainly not be the first time an idea becomes a mandatory policy.

You may be as smug and dismissive as you like, but people like her are meddling busybodies, and they don't like leaving people free to make their own choices.

+Event Hʘriךּon You're on point and the negative freakouts explain why it's so difficult for new interesting ideas to spread- since so many leap to wrong conclusions.

:) With the extra (or the minus) that the kitchen and dining room are commonly shared.

That and plus the people in the community made a choice to become part of the community. They all chose to participate in a social community, not forced.

Paul Petru Alexandru Cazacliu there is a kitchen and dining room in each home though.

It's all about the intention she said. Some people go by this life style even if each has their own separate house.

No it's not. She's not in "co-housing" she's in an apartment that has flat style kitchen\common areas. She's still isolated when she talks about her neighbour waving through the window way across the courtyard. They're not in the same area, she's talking about knowing her neighbours like she tries to discourage at the start. This is simply the effect of flatting, and social isolation is not a bad thing. Humans are social people, but not in all situations and need the alone time to "find themselves"

I've had a similar experience. And maybe these are good for introverts in the way it "forces" you into some social interaction, and strongly encourages you into others (like community activities).

Thumbs up for you too for being willing to face your concerns and realizing that being an introvert doesn't mean being a hermit.

motoriety we still can have our own room, our own private space

Im an introvert too. I do wanna comeout and see someone once in awhile. I think this cohousing means you do have your private place but the common place are bigger and more involved with others. I think this is healthier for sure even for introverts

motoriety i am not an introvert so i can only assume this but: wouldnt it be way easier to be an introvert in a co-housing area? you can be on your own as long as you want like if you would life alone but when you feel the urge to be with people now and then its way easier to meet them and you even dont have to "go out". they are just there and when its enough socializing you can go back within seconds :D

Same, definitely same as you @motoriety . I would like to be able to live her for long without feeling anxious but I can’t imagine myself there. But it it a lovely idea in general

ann: Pretty much my college life experience. I sort of miss having roommates and dormmates and a shared experience and activities to do together. I was always an introvert, but I wasn't quite such a hermit as I am now.

not even close! I used to live in one.

Just putting out my frustration here... I hate room mates in colleges lol especially ones who are gamers...

And you own the place, and you maintain it together. It's more like a condo or a cooperative.

@acebasespace lol I live with room mates who play till late at night... They are loud and play multiplayer games... They have no consideration for sleep times... So yeah that's annoying

That is a sad life.

when people constantly ruin your day no matter what then it becomes an enjoyable life when you can be alone w/ yourself. i feel not enough people my age are alone w/ themselves long enough to be able to depend on themselves and know what they want and exactly who they are ,but instead they often let others decide and lead them and lose out on quality time w/ themselves. it's a happier life for me when i'm left alone

dragonballzgt1989 I love urban life, but when I get to my apartment and I close my door and I dont want to see anyone else until I leave my apartment. Its fine to see people in our common areas (gym, pool, smoking area, garden, game room, theater, atrium) I dont think that this is much different from what she is describing. But I live alone with my wife by choice.

It takes me two hours each day to collect my thoughts and prepare to start my work day. Fortunately my commute is pretty long. Otherwise I just couldn't imagine how difficult it would be to speak to another living person in the first minutes of my day.

I'd recommend not getting married or having kids then.

I sure hope it doesn't. Maybe it's enough to accept that people's values may and will differ. Call it the value of NOT getting along with some others in a benign way.

@@DailyFrankPeter Yeah. Nah. People who don't have shared goals and values are the gold-standard definition of failing societies. Nice try, though.

sounds like a cult commune.

@@BlueSkyBS no, that's called Family.

@@dmarsub I rest my case.

Great comment and I agree completely! As a person who is no longer interested in dealing with people...I live on 36 acres of pristine beauty in the Ouachita National Forest, Arkansas. Loneliness is a non-issue as I am far more connected to nature than human beings.

This is so accurate!!!

People should learn to cherish solitude more. To be alone, to think, and to be lazy and to just exist. This hysteria and obsession about always socializing and being "connected" is making us all depressed and fed up with eachother.

Have you tried it as a lonely person, how do you know if it won't help? It's an option for people, and i don't understand why people are against having more options.

It may be a more involved subject, but loneliness does not mean the same as seclusion. Loneliness is an unfilled need for intimacy which is not met by the mere presence of others. Ever heard of the lonely crowd? I suggest the most likely cause of withdrawal is going to be fear of rejection.

but technology does help in enforcing it... like you no longer have to go to your local supermarket where you might be forced to interact with someone, online shopping and delivery services help you avoid it

I would go so far as to say that technology allows people to socialize with the people they want to socialize with when they want to socialize if used the right way. As the speaker herself mentions at the start of the video, it is possible to be lonely in a crowd. It is also possible to be surrounded by people who care about you and who you care about without being physically near even a single person.

You went to college and this is your analysis? You should get your money back

@@mygamepage5719 you don't always get to choose. In a lot of places you take what you can get.

ryansmith0709 are u kidding? Students never needed "sardine type of living"!

Ryansmith Boulder, CO has examples of co-housing with individual family homes around a common green space aka pocket neighborhoods.

I think the main problem with the idea is that you would need to find a suitable large group of hand-picked people at a time when people often can't even find a home in a good spot for two working people in the household to have a convenient commute. Perhaps this would be more interesting for people who work in a home office setting and thus lack the social aspects of a work life.

Who want to share space with other people, its hell​@@sherylgoodman2134

Pierre Sanchez some of the happiest people live in barrios though. They are not perfect, but they are good for many people.

Not exactly. Barrio is like a small "city". This is living in the same apartment complex with interactive community areas.

Thats a shame. A lovely idea. Would benefit more poeple. Especially the elderly and low income persons. Co- housing also has health benefits.

I think it's called vecindad

Also "vecindad". Like "El chavo del 8".

Maybe they don’t want anything to do with you because you come off condescending

It's not "forced" interaction. It's available for those who want it. There are no obligations to engage in the shared meals. Of course those signing up/moving in have a desire for this type of community so no one is being forced.

I feel you lmao

yeah you and 21 other people don’t know what “forced interactions” is…. this is the opposite of that.

The nice thing is that INTJ and other people uncomfortable with the idea of shared spaces, knowing the risks, will avoid cohousing.

It works quite well for us. There are little unwritten rules. Open your door and folk know you are "at home" close it, and you don't get so many visitors. Want company? Hang out in the social areas. There is a good privacy/community balance.

Liz I thought the same.

There’s more to it than meets the eye. This model is far cheaper than living alone. Apparently they have a massive housing problem amongst retired professionals in the US. People are being thrown to the streets when they retire for this or other reason. I don’t know if it’s the never ending mortgage payment or the outstanding university fee or the divorce costs. Anyway, highly skilled professionals end up homeless and from what I understand this idea aims to address this serious social problem. .

drania76 It is not a cheap housing solution. If you can't afford to live in your own house you can't afford co-housing. You may be able to buy into co-operative housing. There are co-operative old folks homes. I like the idea of the USA getting socialist ideals through practical issues.

Good for you!!

Yeah, that's why the Catalans want out of Spain, eh?

mappyhappychappy you know, I love Cataluña and the Catalans, and in terms of being extrovert and lovely people, I am sure we all think the same, whether they want to belong to my country or not. Also I do not thing your comment is anything but imprudent, you should not spread that kind of hate, because this community does not deserve it.

mappyhappychappy what? catalans want to separate from Spain because they don't like cohousing?

Catalans are more communal in cities that the rest of spain I think. City blocks in Barcelona are kinda built in a semi communal way. (Square areas with a open space in the middle)@@BlueSkyBS

BPoe07 Hi, I know you posted this 2 years ago but I wanted to add something. All this talk of communal housing, other ted talks talking about how to make a city more walkable (partly by fostering closer community bonds), and other ted talks and KZfaq videos on the housing crisis seem to forget that population will be the largest deciding factor of everything they talk about. You can't have a communal, walkable, affordable city without limiting the amount of people in it, otherwise urban sprawl happens and the environment outside the city is harmed. Eventually all around the globe either populations will need to settle out and stay around the replenishment rate, or things are going to breakdown further than they already have. I'm not advocating for eugenics or any like it, but if humanity wants to help protect the environment, and have walkable, communal, affordable cities, the population needs to level out on a global scale. Most people can understand what happens if there is a breakdown of a feeling of community in a large society, many smaller sub communities are formed and you get partisan politics and societal friction, and those 2 problems lead to a whole lot of other problems very quickly, America being the best example of this. If we started limiting the amount of people in our cities and by extension our countries, well 1st, to do this would be considered draconian and the only way to enforce such a rule is through draconian measures that infringe on people's rights, 2nd, it would impact the growth based economy of most nations on earth. The only way that the economy could continue to be growth based is if the majority of all factories were automated, and most jobs were either high skilled ones or creative ones. Manual labour jobs that would be difficult to automate would still exist, but that would slowly disappear as people figured out how to automate one jobs as well. When it comes to high skilled jobs like programming and creative jobs like painting, singing or writing, we're already seeing AI's able to write to the same degree as your average journalist, and create decent paintings and drawings, and use machine learning it improve themselves with no input from humans ( like how a Google algorithm improved itself without the knowledge of the programmers, and they couldn't figure out it did what it did, so they deleted it ). Eventually a form of UBI would have to be implemented to keep huge swaths of the population of whatever country this is occurring in from becoming jobless and homeless. But when people loose something that helped to give them meaning, social and mental problems ensue. Problems like a breakdown of societal cohesion and community bonds.

@@unfriendlyjack4223 So basically you want something Republican voters hate: UBI and Automation. I agree. Republican voters don’t like it because it will affect their business and how they make money to make a living but they don’t realize that this is beyond them. In order to save humanity is by going automation and UBI. It will affect low skill jobs for low skilled folks and that’s a good thing. Replace them with automation. They will say “it’s socialism/communism” all they want but they are ignoring the problem. They are afraid. Automation and UBI is our future. We don’t need workers to sacrifice themselves for the economy. They deserve better living. That means Higher wages but Republican voters don’t like it because they think that’s going to “raise the price”. I believe we can own a space of living and pay a fee for the maintenance. I believe that’s a condo, right? Imagine waking up and have 12 hours to ourselves and actually LIVE rather than sacrifice 12 hours of living to work just to pay the bills. That’s not living. That’s surviving. UBI is our solution to allow us to LIVE a life. Do hobbies, spend time with families, friends. Do SOMETHING and UBI will allow us to pay off the bills and taxes and actually LIVE a life. I can go to the beach and not worry about how much money to travel. More money into the economy is stimulating the economy or else deflation starts. Actually spend the money in the economy to help LOCAL BUSINESS is better than rich people HOARDING the money and not invest it in local business. Think about it.

Susie the whole point of this is having a shared space, not a shared home

And if I wanted to interact with the people in the other apartment I wouldn't want to have to do it across two panes of glass and a void in between.

@@PHlophe just get a communal garden then. Or join an activity group. Your community doesn't have to be at your doorstep.

@@che3se1495 i can kind of see how people would feel its a little too invasive with less clear boundaries.

I really like this idea but your comment made me chuckle out loud, thanks.

lmao this is a terrible concept... i can't stand other people

I love this comment with this look in the picture you have 😂

GribNick To each his own. Interesting idea.

Did you even watch the whole video? They live in separate apartments but share a large dinning hall and court yard

Then close your blinds.

That has nothing to do with being introvert has it ? You are just socially awkward and need to get out there more

Condos already do this.

maxregal Your comment made me laugh so hard!!

I agree, though there is something to be said for interacting with people who do not share your interests, politics,... to broaden your horizon. Designing people's living spaces to force them to do so seems the wrong approach though.

I think it would be better if you knew the people

Mango but that’s exactly it, you are. You interact and then you all go home to separate houses

yes

I don't think you get it. This idea isn't new. This is literally just an apartment complex. The only thing they did was give it a paint job and a volunteer cafeteria. This is propaganda. It's saying apartment complexes are healthier than other forms of living. Ever person on the damn planet knows that's not true. And we're asking "Why are they lying to us this time?"

TheRackits its not a new idea.. its thousands of years old.

I beg your pardon. Allow me to rephrase. It's amazing how afraid people are of OPTIONAL ALTERNATIVES. lol FFS

Computers were optional now you won't have a successful business or be competitive on the job market if you choose not to use one. Just an example of how things are phased into being "required" in society.

"Optional". Keep telling yourself that.

Marcus that's pretty sad. And they have a lot of suicide too. I rather leave with the occasional ruffle my feathers situation than not know my neighbors on the other side to my walls....sad

Markus and that's why there are more lonely people in elderly home lol! i'll be damned if my parents move in those .I spent 2 months in Malmoe, its a youthful city but older people crave human interaction , if sensed that if i spoke german people would be offended, so i just kept moving. Poor old Schwede.

That sounds great to me.

The fact that you kept using the word "nice" suggests you secretly hate the idea. People use the nice word when they are rejecting something. "You're a nice guy" = You're kind of boring, "That's nice" = I'm not really interested and "It's nice to meet you" = I haven't made my mind up about you yet but I don't find you attractive right now.

@@wittyclips... Is the only exposure to the word nice you've ever gotten been secretly negative or something? Nice is a word that's between great and mediocre. "You're a nice guy", "That's nice" and "It's nice to meet you" also mean that the experience is neither bad nor terribly good, but mostly neutral in a positive way. If the person gives it an intonation or whatever then yeah, it can be seen as a signal of "not interested". But it definitively isn't restricted only to that. Like, I live in a nice neighborhood. Its not amazing, but it's not bad. Its just ok and I'm aware that it could be worse. Congratulating someone's cool skateboard flip with a "Niceee" isn't necessarily passive aggressive. I just saw that your comment is 9 months old. Sorry for blowing up at you over this, it just kind of bothered me that you didn't believe them for that reason.

"But also i wouldnt want to wake up everyday to hear kids screaming in the courtyard when i worked late the night before." How exactly is that different from any other form of housing? How is it different from kids playing in the street or nearby lawns? How is it different that kids living in an apartment building? "And i would like blinds." Any why exactly wouldn't you have them? Again, how does this differ from any other form of housing?

Dennis Choomac jesus calm down

hoa hoang dennis seems pretty calm to me. He is simply pointing out that the ideas portrayed in this vid could be abused..

Benefits?? Haha

Yes benefits.

karma bad, yes it can be abused, like when there is a comment comparing her with staline? ... Something's wrong with some people.

Newuxtreme I meant a student house like we do I UK and most of the world

Those living in student housing seem happy because they are a highly homogenous community -- similar age (late teens to 20's), same goal (education and beer), financially dependent (parental help or student loan). Try mixing a student house and nursing home together, and see if everyone is still happy.

^ This, I'd happily live in a cohousing type arrangement if I knew the other people there were of a similar mindset/ age/ income level as me... not otherwise though.

That's probably why people who choose to live in a coop are typically interviewed by the other residents before they are accepted into their community.

I don't think you have gone to university. There is all sorts of people there from late teens, to people specializing to a different masters degree and researchers literally from everywhere and every kind of specialization. I love how much of a flame war people go on to, due to simply being shown an alternative. As is if we have taken your suburban paradise or something.

That’s true my friend, i’m not catolic , but a good thing of the catolic church is the importance off a good community.

Yes it actually is a vertical village which was designed to protect and taking care of people for centuries. Villages were more successful than isolated farms as people were able to cooperate and share services/resources.