How cruise ships became a catastrophe for the planet | It's Complicated
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3 ай бұрынCruising is booming - 2023 ticket sales have surpassed historic levels and 2024 has seen the launch of the largest cruise ship ever built.
But as cruise tourism's popularity has increased, so have the pollution problems it brings. To customers, it may not be evident that any problems exist, since some cruise line companies claim to be becoming more climate-friendly.
The truth can be quite different. Josh Toussaint-Strauss interrogates what impact the world's biggest ships are having on the planet.
From the Guardian:
‘Biggest, baddest’ - but is it the cleanest? World’s largest cruise ship sets sail
www.theguardian.com/environme...
‘A good cruise is one that doesn’t come’: Europe’s ports bear brunt of ship pollution
www.theguardian.com/travel/20...
Shipping’s dirty secret: how ‘scrubbers’ clean the air - while contaminating the sea www.theguardian.com/environme...
Sources:
0:22 - "50% US citizens" -
Source: TIME/Harris Poll
time.com/6285915/cruise-indus...
2:48 - "4 times worse than flying"
Source: the International Council on Clean Transportation
theicct.org/marine-cruising-f...
2:56 - "Same particulate matter as 1m cars"
Sourse Nabu report
en.nabu.de/news/2017/23046.html
3:04 - "4x sulphur oxides as all Europe's cars"
Source: Transport & Environment study
www.transportenvironment.org/...
3:17 - "25% of all ocean waste comes from cruise ships" -
Source: Ocean & Coastal Management journal
www.sciencedirect.com/science...
3:25 - impact on marine life
Source: PHAROS4MPAs
iczmplatform.org/storage/docu...
3:51 - 24% lower if speed reduced
Source: Seas at risk report
seas-at-risk.org/publications...
4:20 LNG engines leak methane
Source: the International Council on Clean Transportation
theicct.org/wp-content/upload...
4:20 Methane traps 80x more heat than Co2
Source: MIT
climate.mit.edu/ask-mit/why-d...
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@theGuardian 2 ай бұрын
0:22 - "50% US citizens" - Source: TIME/Harris Poll time.com/6285915/cruise-industry-climate-action-emissions-passengers/ 2:48 - "4 times worse than flying" Source: the International Council on Clean Transportation theicct.org/marine-cruising-flying-may22/ 2:56 - "Same particulate matter as 1m cars" Source: Nabu report en.nabu.de/news/2017/23046.html 3:04 - "4x sulphur oxides as all Europe's cars" Source: Transport & Environment study www.transportenvironment.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/The-return-of-the-cruise-June-2023.pdf 3:17 - "25% of all ocean waste comes from cruise ships" - Source: Ocean & Coastal Management journal www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0964569121003331 3:25 - impact on marine life Source: PHAROS4MPAs iczmplatform.org/storage/documents/lBKMxs0Wvm99Y9EpeBhGezNFaECM6c4hK24nCitv.pdf 3:51 - 24% lower if speed reduced Source: Seas at risk report seas-at-risk.org/publications/multi-issue-speed-report/ 4:20 LNG engines leak methane Source: the International Council on Clean Transportation theicct.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/ICCT_Comer_COP27_methane_slip_mp4-1.pdf 4:20 Methane traps 80x more heat than Co2 Source: MIT climate.mit.edu/ask-mit/why-do-we-compare-methane-carbon-dioxide-over-100-year-timeframe-are-we-underrating
@alexmartian3972 2 ай бұрын
4 times more than flying per passenger. Per minute I presume? /s Compared to personal "business" jets, having if not swimming pools, but at least decent saunas?
@benheidemann3836 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for citing sources - only news org I know who does this on YT
@LegsDavo 3 ай бұрын
When a company says their new product or service (or cruise ship) is "More Environmentally Friendly", it's not, it's just less environmentally un-friendly than before.
@magesalmanac6424 3 ай бұрын
Yeah it’s always greenwashing.
@phaedrussmith1949 3 ай бұрын
Companies don't say it, the people that work for the companies say it. Those people are us.
@barryhaley7430 3 ай бұрын
What is wrong with less environmentally damaging than before?
@phaedrussmith1949 3 ай бұрын
@@barryhaley7430 It's deceitful.
@wasylwasylson7349 3 ай бұрын
Everything so called "green" is in reality, at most, less "dirty". Including so-called renewable energy - where do all the parts, including the parts needed for maintenance of wind turbines or solar panels, come from? Industry cannot be powered (certainly not fully) by solar or wind energy. Neither can mines. Almost everything that we use, "green" or not, comes from mass production and the latter is never "green". The usage of the word "green" in itself is nonsense, it's just a marketing term (political marketing included) and such terms are misleading by design more often than not.
@samnewman4314 3 ай бұрын
I got a cruise ship advert on this 😭
@DeannaAllison 3 ай бұрын
So did I!
@soccerguy325 2 ай бұрын
At least that AdCents is going toward decent journalism! 👍
@MrEvolutionable 3 ай бұрын
I knew that cruise ships were pretty bad polluters but I was not aware they were THIS polluting! How can anyone claim that they are even remotely environmentally friendly?
@peterisawesomeplease 2 ай бұрын
yea i was always under the impression that per passanger they were not particularly bad but yea apparently even on a per passenger level they are horrendous.
@Heve62 Ай бұрын
Its never said they are. Companies say the new one is more than the last one which is true
@OscarOSullivan Ай бұрын
If you want to go on a blue or green water ship for fun sign up for a tall ship, keeps you in shape and offers a more interesting more varied experience.
@OscarOSullivan Ай бұрын
If you want to go on a blue or green water ship for fun sign up for a tall ship, keeps you in shape and offers a more interesting more varied experience.
@techcafe0 3 ай бұрын
these giant floating theme parks on the seas cannot possibly be environmentally responsible or sustainable
@barryhaley7430 3 ай бұрын
Compared to what? Universal Studios, The Disney theme parks? Airplanes? Automobiles?
@Mtmonaghan 2 ай бұрын
Other wrongs don’t make it right
@barryhaley7430 2 ай бұрын
@@Mtmonaghan Well, nothing humans do as well as all other organisms have no impact on the environment. All life forms are always affecting the planet. That is the natural process. We are always making trade offs. In the long history of the planet, it will adjust quite well long after humans have gone extinct. And we will eventually go extinct. 90% of all life forms that have ever existed have gone extinct. That’s 90% of 4 billion species. Is the cruise industry less sustainable than the airline industry? The automobile industry? In the long run, humans aren’t sustainable.
@cd3949 2 ай бұрын
@@Mtmonaghan You're also expelling CO2 just sitting there typing this. What to do... What to do...
@konstantin_d.m 2 ай бұрын
@@cd3949 "whataboutism" doesn't help anyone. But since you started it: Yes, every living being emits CO2e by simply "being (and staying) alive". But that's not the point. The point isn't even to forbid any kinds of luxuries. However, it should be blatantly obvious, that giant resorts are usually quite harmful for the environment (simply because they don't really care about sustainability). Now, if you stick one of those resorts on a huge ship, pulling those extremely heavy resorts across our seas - of course their emissions are going to skyrocket! It's simple maths Even simpler solution: Dock the cruise ship somewhere, connect it to the electrical grid, waste and wastewater mgmt, and you've still got your luxurious "seaside" resort, but none of the emissions of burning hundreds of tons of fuel, simply to get passengers across the globe to places they're not even gonna (properly) visit.
@ljacobs357 3 ай бұрын
Not to mention their contribution to overtourism at major ports. Cruise tourists spend considerably less than land-based tourists. I avoid destinations when large cruise ships are in port.
@khetwalll 2 ай бұрын
i think you are talking about Cozumel and Bahamas 😂
@alexr167 3 ай бұрын
An interesting fact was overlooked, even though ships can drive with natural gas they only do near ports, as soon as they leave their waters they switch to engines that run on heavy oil.
@smvsspould 2 ай бұрын
There are cruise ships that run on only LNG though?
@jakefleewood4088 2 ай бұрын
Yes this is true about changing once they leave port. But most modern ships which are capable of running LNG also run Marine Gas Oil as an alternative fuel, not Heavy Fuel Oil. Yes alot of the older ships run on Heavy Fuel Oil which is where the sulphur pollution comes from but. But newer ship mostly use Marine Gas Oil which is better
@banksiasong 3 ай бұрын
The details about the cruise ship pollutants and wastes is terrifying.
@ebe7157 2 ай бұрын
They're also wrong.
@cd3949 2 ай бұрын
@@ebe7157 Do tell...
@dromeascr123 2 ай бұрын
In reality ships do not discharge untreated sewage into the sea. There is a sewage treatment plant on board that regularly passes inspections from port authorities to ensure its functionality. I am not gonna talk about oil or oily waste from the engine room, no one even thinks of dumping these into the sea nowadays as there are plenty of ways to get caught and face very serious legal consequences as chief engineer. The only untreated water that ships throw directly overboard is what's known as gray water and that's the water from sinks and showers. I find this debatable also as this is a lot of water on a cruise ship of 10k people. The atmospheric pollution is also a concern as these burn heavy fuel in the open sea. At ports the merchant ships I work on require to change over to diesel and I don't know why something like that wouldn't apply to cruise ships but oh well, the video implies otherwise. I don't think they are innocent but I also don't like misinformation as I happen to work on ships (oil tankers though)
@hvr8463 Ай бұрын
@@ebe7157 nope
@douglasengle2704 Ай бұрын
There are thousands of oil tankers and container ships traversing half the world on a daily bases. In comparison cruise ships impact on the seas is almost nothing. They have been a problem when running marine heavy fuel oil while in dock that is stomach sickening. Many port areas in the last few years demand all ships switch to running light fuel oil while in their vicinity somewhat similar to highway diesel. Some newer cruise ships are mainly fueled with liquid natural gas with a fuel oil ignition. In a pinch they can run on pure fuel oil. This video was very poorly researched.
@Rainberna 3 ай бұрын
Its not complicated. Its called greed.
@car_tar3882 3 ай бұрын
Nope if the lines could go zero emissions tomorrow I promise you they would. The sheer amount of energy required to move a hip would require an entire ship full of batteries which probably wouldn’t even float
@tenossos 3 ай бұрын
You're confusing greed with capitalism.
@GraingyAircraft 2 ай бұрын
Capitalism is just greed managing the means of production.
@TheDennys21 21 күн бұрын
@@car_tar3882 yeah it does take a lot of energy to move a hip.
@Francebras 3 ай бұрын
Floating shopping malls or public housing complexes where the sea holds little to no significance for both users and operators.
@Dayvit78 2 ай бұрын
There's no way taking a whole hotel with you when you travel can be environmentally friendly. When they say more environmentally friendly, it's like McDonald's coming up with healthier options.
@gesp5151 Ай бұрын
Or MacDonalds being involved in kid’s football- terrible abuse
@djayjp 3 ай бұрын
300kg per person per day of CO2 emissions....
@michaelmay4930 3 ай бұрын
Seems like unfortunately it’s the small potatoes like family owned fishing businesses that get fried due to lack of equity/resources for lawyers and go under when more rules and regulations are applied for climate and conservations. When it’s the big potatoes that should be eaten
@stauber44 3 ай бұрын
This is what happens when you let an industry grow underregulated. If externalities are not priced, why care?
@secretagentbloke 3 ай бұрын
And then there’s the food waste issue………
@huskiefan06 2 ай бұрын
That they chop up and feed to the fish. I fail to see the problem here.
@secretagentbloke 2 ай бұрын
@@huskiefan06 some people fail to see the Earth is round too
@DAndyLord 2 ай бұрын
@@secretagentbloke Fewer than 700 people have ever been to space. Fewer than 700 humans in the history of humanity have ever actually seen that the Earth is round.
@secretagentbloke 2 ай бұрын
@@DAndyLord so do you believe the Earth is flat?
@donlitt Ай бұрын
@@DAndyLordwe have sky scrapers tall enough on earth that the curvature becomes visible
@banksiasong 3 ай бұрын
After Covid, I really thought that the cruise industry would fold, given its multiplicity of health risks, to humans, stopover ports, and the planet.
@skinnytinny9023 3 ай бұрын
and they're full of old people which is what Covid was all about. It would be interesting to find out, for instance, how many otherwise healthy 10-15 year olds died.
@VNeto94 2 ай бұрын
Like airports and public transportation?
@jonathanirons231 2 ай бұрын
I wholeheartedly share this criticism and am extremely wary of any claims made by cruise companies. However, ... Comparing a cruise ship with other forms of transport is misleading and disingenuous. The reality is that you need to compare the emissions of a cruise ship with those of the airplanes, buses, cars, hotels, theme parks and restaurants that they are replacing. I would be interested to see how the emissions of 5000 holidaymakers on land would stack up for a similar time period.
@thaisgregorio2734 3 ай бұрын
I knew cruise ships polluted a lot, but I didn't know it was this much!
@shantyclips6358 2 ай бұрын
You're mixing up ocean liners with cruise ships! 🤦🏼♂️
@Mega747400 2 ай бұрын
the second they did that it lost credibility 1 is for travel one is for leisure to very different purposes.
@tomallen5837 Ай бұрын
I don't know about that. There's a whole section dedicated to the evolution of ships. It's in the first third of this video discussing the ocean liners being more of a form of transportation, and then evolving to cruise ships once it was already established that air travel was faster. If you're speaking of charts and stats in this video, yeah it gets a bit muddy, but really what's getting mixed up here? I don't see your point. Please explain.
@DysfunctionNoMore 2 ай бұрын
Passenger ships designed for speed are Ocean Liners - they usually weather storms in the name of meeting schedules. Cruise Ships on the other hand always try to go around bad weather as they are designed much taller and cant take the same kind of beating at sea.
@newbarker523 2 ай бұрын
I sea what you did there 🤣
@imtiyazlatoo3001 2 ай бұрын
Next time make a video on environmental catastrophe caused by Billionaires flocking to WEF Davos in private jets.
@HuplesCat Ай бұрын
Evil is evil whoever does it and comparing evil is zero excuse
@Thelionatays 3 ай бұрын
I’d rather Just go kayaking
@mozar5175 3 ай бұрын
For me, a beautiful ride on my electric assisted bike on a quiet country trail is so much better than being stuck on a cruise ship with thousands of overweight passengers running for the buffet!
@DAndyLord 2 ай бұрын
@@mozar5175 Wouldn't riding your bike to the buffet be the best of both worlds though?
@nickpacal8418 2 ай бұрын
@@mozar5175 Where do you think that battery components were mined from? Unless you are living in the forest like our ancestors and surviving off of the earth and not using ANY modern technology you have zero right to say anything.
@HuplesCat Ай бұрын
@@nickpacal8418totally untrue. We all have a right to speak and be heard unless we speak hate. Equating kayaking or e biking with cruise ship vacationing is really funny. Thanks for the big oil 😂😂😂
@jeffw8218 2 ай бұрын
HEY MAYBE YOU SHOULD DO A VIDEO ON WHERE THE 75% of ocean waste comes from? THE ANSWER IS THE 9 MOST POLLUTED RIVERS IN THE WORLD, ONE IN AFRICA AND THE REST IN SOUTH EAST ASIA.
@mairead5891 3 ай бұрын
The sheer size of modern cruise ships is utterly obscene, let alone the damage each one is doing to the planet.
@ghostlygent 3 ай бұрын
And, what are you yourself doing to control your own negative impact on the environment? (Hint: the answer is NOTHING)
@jimmylieb5225 2 ай бұрын
ghostleygent. FDJT
@DAndyLord 2 ай бұрын
@@ghostlygent I drive a bus. I remove the need for dozens and maybe hundreds of cars each day.
@VNeto94 2 ай бұрын
@@DAndyLordso you have a job? 😂
@migspeculates Ай бұрын
@@ghostlygentScreaming "tu quo que" sounds futile
@blakeaaron5698 2 ай бұрын
Wow, I didn’t realize cruisers are this bad. Thanks for the reporting.
@chippysteve4524 2 ай бұрын
Seeing as we're talking about the connection between holiday choices and pollution,don't forget about The Guardian constantly plugging exotic holidays/international flights .
@jandp2941 3 ай бұрын
It is all about the immediate money 😢
@Hansulf 2 ай бұрын
Make a tariff at the port. The more green measures the cruises fulfill, the lower the tax. See how fast they change their ways. Incentives are everything
@PortCharmers 2 ай бұрын
I spent a few days in London last summer, and there was a cruise ship moored on the Thames for a while. Nothing special during daytime, but when I passed it in the late evening, it was belting out enormous clouds of smoke. Don't tell me it was coincidence. They knew exactly this sort of pollution is less visible at night.
@VNeto94 2 ай бұрын
They need more power and they also usually move to another destination at night.
@virtualwatcher4024 2 ай бұрын
Excellent video!
@Whistiling_in_the_Wind Ай бұрын
I saw a cruise ship go into port one time and it was insane. The entire town just absolutely smothered in diesel pollution.
@kevindruce8915 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing this. I am always surprised that the small islands do not charge these types of vessels for the pollution that they create.
@user-wx6vz2vn3y 2 ай бұрын
We should stop this
@BrettVano Ай бұрын
As a consumer these are huge concerns for me and I hope the cruise companies will take heed. Thanks for the video.
@dasautopilot7097 2 ай бұрын
how are cruise ships legal? its not like they do anything useful like containerships. they just polute for fun
@VNeto94 2 ай бұрын
Tourism is useful. Thousands of jobs are useful. You don't get to say what's useful if it's a sucessful business model.
@migspeculates Ай бұрын
"I looove it when we're cruising togetheeer" ❤
@Bloodgod40 2 ай бұрын
4:53 Is not a cruise ship. That's a ferry.
@un1verse596 2 ай бұрын
put giant sails ontop
@DanTheCaptain 2 ай бұрын
Cruises are just about the worst polluters you could think of. The notion that they’re trying to market themselves as “environmentally friendly” is honestly quite laughable. The cruising industry is also still very unregulated so anything that comes out of the shipping industry I take with a grain of salt.
@Bluetangg 3 ай бұрын
Thank you. I do not know these facts.
@_ata_3 2 ай бұрын
Very dumb things people do: Sell and buy trips on cruise ships.
@claudiaroedel1368 2 ай бұрын
Really??? Cruiseships *"choose"* to use Diesel??? Diesel is ships fuels and almost all cruisesships use it instead of Heavy Marine Oil but - hydrogen fuel cells and other alternative fuels are only on testing phase. Also MARPOL has very strict rules about garbage handling. I find it hard to believe 25% of ocean garbage comes from cruise ships. Fishing vessel are responsible for much more plastic garbage than cruise ships.
@jakeandsarahhealthnuts3299 2 ай бұрын
I kind of agree with you. I am not sure that they are accurate about 25% of ocean garbage coming from cruise ships. I doubt there are more then 5,000 total ships out there
@stevenwilliambaylessparks3730 3 ай бұрын
Grotesque
@Juan-fv4sg 2 ай бұрын
I… I just didn’t think they were THIS bad
@marpintado 2 ай бұрын
This species has amused itself to death.
@FinickyGreek 2 ай бұрын
They'll never get me to board a floating petri dish, no matter what the price.
@Tcyc-le3pi 2 ай бұрын
Is this guy telling us a bedtime story😂
@stevenhenry5267 Ай бұрын
You see catastrophe,I see a living opportunity.
@Meghnaaad 2 ай бұрын
Why can't we ban these? Also formula car sport? What's the sense?
@donlitt Ай бұрын
I love going on cruise ships. Endless fun. I just wish they didn’t dump trash into the ocean
@benheidemann3836 2 ай бұрын
More of this kind of journalism please 😊
@clankb2o5 2 ай бұрын
I cannot believe these statistics, my mind is blown
@richardstrick 2 ай бұрын
Mainly because they are not real .
@ethannstevensteven4949 3 ай бұрын
Wow, I had no idea. You see a cruise ship out in the ocean and it looks so peaceful and surreal....in reality, it's a cesspool of pollution. I wonder if cargo ships are as bad.
@jackprier7727 3 ай бұрын
The above news story says that "1% {cruise ships} produce 25% of the world's ocean waste" so steer your wonderment toward that-
@joedudley6137 2 ай бұрын
Their is so much misinformation in this. The cruise ship is the transport and the accommodation and the entertainment and the dining which is not taking into account by comparing the CO2 emissions of a flight Vs a full week long cruise
@peterisawesomeplease 2 ай бұрын
If anything that is being nice to the cruise ships though. Flights are some of the worst per person C02 emitters you can find. I more fair comparison would be vs a hotel stay. But that would make the cruise ships look even worse. Note that most people fly to their cruise ship port too.
@alexphelps7042 2 ай бұрын
Being Floridian I completely forgot that somebody might wanna fly to port & then take a cruise. That definitely doesn’t make sense, never mind the environment that’s a poor financial choice. Who’s doing that? Is it really the majority?
@VNeto94 2 ай бұрын
@alexphelps7042 maybe only big resorts in destinations where you can travel short distances near your place to experience a lot more of the local culture are a rival to what the best cruises offer.
@HuplesCat Ай бұрын
There
@SpikeyTech Ай бұрын
LNG isn't eco friendly at all. Climate Town made has an excellent video explaining that while it *technically* doesn't produce *carbon* emissions, it's methane which is several times more potent than CO2.
@ankurshah23 2 ай бұрын
It will never happen in the Caribbean corridor or these islands will vanish. They survive on cruise days. Now its a question of emitting toxic gases in the water and air versus actual humanity surviving in the Caribbean.
@___beyondhorizon4664 Ай бұрын
Cruises are for heavy people who don't bother to walk to attractions. Pack/ unpacked once, eat 3 buffets+ tea time a day. Pack loose fitting clothes for weight gain 😅 The news about the 3 years cruise prompted people to sign up, some said its better than nursing home costs. Unfortunately no insurance company willing to insure the voyage due to the current wars.
@LeeMoore-tu4gr 3 ай бұрын
A a person with disabilities going on a cruise of the Mediterranean or Alaska is a great option but after seeing how bad it is for the environment I'll have too look elsewhere in the future :(. It is so nice going to a different port each day and then going back to your "hotel room" and arriving the next day in a destination.
@alexphelps7042 2 ай бұрын
Don’t give up! This video was unfair it’s so frustrating to see it make an impact on people. No matter how you cut it pushing a whole resort around on a raft is not enviromental friendly & these companies should not greenwash. However at no point in this video were fair comparisons made to actual vacations. Sure the ship is less efficient than the plane but newsflash! Nobody flies somewhere & then does nothing. Hotels dining entertainment all use energy too and none of that accounted for when comparing to cruise ships, which offer it all.
@VNeto94 2 ай бұрын
Weak.
@donlitt Ай бұрын
It’s funny how if you scroll to the bottom you begin to read the pro cruising comments haha 😂
@johnk-pc2zx 2 ай бұрын
Wasn't all that particulate matter keeping the temperature down?
@GeorgeGeorgeOnly 3 ай бұрын
You ain't getting me on one of those cruise tubs! Seriously, thousands of people packed in like sardines in a metal can, Literally! Not my scene at all, and how is that not a disaster waiting to happen?! And now it turns out that these boats are not remotely green in any way.🙄 Yep! 😐Should've seen that coming.😒😏
@bitcoincryptofreedom3652 3 ай бұрын
Who cares if it's green. The elite of the WEF preach climate change. But will happily fly in their private jets, whilst preaching to the plebs they should reduce their carbon footprint. Watch what they do not what they say.
@dondoodat 3 ай бұрын
@@bitcoincryptofreedom3652 Just listen to the experts, the scientists. The elite you refer to have only talked about climate change because they've been forced to. Don't fall for thinking they are leading the conversation when they are doing everything to avoid it. You're right in saying watch what they do, not what they say, but you're saying it for all the wrong reasons.
@ghostlygent 3 ай бұрын
Sardines... in a metal can. You're totally right. Cruises are NOT for you. Anyone that ignorant belongs in a Days Inn.
@jimmylieb5225 2 ай бұрын
FDJT
@ladykayla7417 2 ай бұрын
@@ghostlygent yeah, he’s telling us he’s never been on a cruise ship but thinks he knows what it’s like. Just like every non-cruiser out there. It’s like cruise-hater bingo reading/listening to some people.
@lorenam8028 2 ай бұрын
How did it become such a mess? Easy. GREED. The same reason any other mess turns massive.
@donstaves Ай бұрын
WOW!!! Can we please scrap these cruise ships???
@extrude22 2 ай бұрын
Hard to belive the guardian doesn’t know the difference between a cruise ship and an ocean liner
@vsznry 2 ай бұрын
Cruising seems like the worst idea ever.
@jakeoreilly9627 2 ай бұрын
Nothing eco about cruise ships
@extraterrestrial7424 2 ай бұрын
Venice, Barcelona and other tourist cities have actual inhabitants??
@VNeto94 2 ай бұрын
Barcelona does. But I get the overflow problem. It's not even about the "natural environment", but the human environment, because packed places are bad for other tourists that mainly come from the airports (not truly environment friendly as well).
@VNeto94 2 ай бұрын
Venice is very tiny and highly concentrated. They have to control the sudden inflow of people.
@brothertaro2008 3 ай бұрын
A new study shows that Trump's energy policies would increase climate pollution equivalent to the combined annual emissions of the European Union and Japan.
@cd3949 2 ай бұрын
A study funded by the WEF.
@VNeto94 2 ай бұрын
Which study? I gotta share it.
@alexphelps7042 2 ай бұрын
I’m not convinced, cruise ships stand out cause they are easy to study being all under one roof, none of these comparisons included an entire vacation like cruises offer. Imagine a European family flying to Disney World for a week. With baggage they’ll almost certainly be taking a (probably ICE) car to an airport where they’ll use municipal power in their country for a while, they likely have a connecting flight in the continent where they’ll use other more different power from the 2nd airport. Then onto another plane from another company to fly to Orlando where they’ll begin using electricity from that city in that airport, then they’ll take a private cab from that airport or maybe one of the contracted diesel coaches to their hotel. Assume our family is not multi millionaires so their hotel isnt Disney branded & they’re not using electricity in the same municipality as the Disney parks. Over the course of the vacation they use either a rental car or dozens of private ride shares, eat at who knows how many restaurants, maybe one of the days they go to the coast and start using power in yet another city. Then repeat the same sequence of multiple airports to go home & add a random layover cause airplanes are so fun. Trying to calculate the complete enviromental impact of THAT vacation, group it with comparable trips & compile enough data to be statistically significant is so far removed from looking at how much of a fuel/oil/gas a boat uses &dividing by # of passengers I don’t think it can be effectively done. And pointing out how one piece of a trip is more efficient than an entire one just isn’t useful
@fruitpunch5260 Ай бұрын
And people getting a cruise aren’t also getting taxis to and from cruise ports? And taxi’s/buses in each destination when the cruise docks?
@TroyQwert Ай бұрын
How many ppl think about the said when going on a cruise?
@clement2780 2 ай бұрын
how about river cruises
@yuhno808 2 ай бұрын
I wonder if using a nuclear engine will make the cruise ships have near zero emission.
@VNeto94 2 ай бұрын
It would. It will.
@paullangford8179 2 ай бұрын
I can't see the attraction of what's basically a floating shopping mall with hotel features.
@VNeto94 2 ай бұрын
It's the other way around, but I get the point. It's similar to a Las Vegas resort that wants to overcharge you for everything + entertainment and casino.
@GotKimchi 2 ай бұрын
Yeah, cruising is bad when you visit all those ports. How about you fly to each port instead, drive a car, get some food elsewhere! Surely that doesn't contribute to the death of the planet right? Can you imagine all those thousands of passengers getting on planes from all over the world ? Unless you are going to stay home for the rest of your life, there is nothing you can do to not contribute to the death of the planet
@Mega747400 2 ай бұрын
5000 people it would take 14 Boeing 777's to carry the same amount so 28 GE90 turbofans using 100 tons of fuel PER AIRCRAFT in 15 hours while a cruise ship generally uses 100-300 tons a day. so, the same amount of people by aircraft would burn 1,500 TONS of Fuel in a single day.
@tony8074 3 ай бұрын
How can a floating city be environmentally friendly?
@christopherblake8227 Ай бұрын
Floating petri dishes devoid of culture. I would pay to avoid getting on one!
@DeccyJ 2 ай бұрын
Absolutely nothing about the billions of sealife, fish, lobster, octopus etc consumed (gorged) by cruise ship passengers & crew - literally destroying oceans, waterways and eco-systems which cruisers apparently 'love' so much?
@jakeandsarahhealthnuts3299 2 ай бұрын
Yeah I am not boycotting cruise ships. I went on one about 3 months ago and had the best time of my life. I try and do my part by being Vegan,
@alvapazz Ай бұрын
And for what? We’re just the absolute worst
@stuartsutherland7664 2 ай бұрын
What the readers of the Guardian don't like is that the common people get to enjoy a luxury holiday, and we can't have that!
@billyponsonby 3 ай бұрын
If you’re watching this then you’re unlikely to be a Royal Caribbean customer.
@richardluce775 2 ай бұрын
Actually have been on 4 royal carribean cruises. So should we ban golf courses and carving up a mountainside for a ski resort??? You get my point? Any human activity is usually not “Enviromentaly Friendly”.
@blueishxx 3 ай бұрын
monstrosities'
@Germanicea 2 ай бұрын
So I cant drive my car because its not ULEZ compliant but just over 200 ships pollute as much as 250m cars. Brilliant.
@alexphelps7042 2 ай бұрын
The presenter used a little trick when he said that to you. If you check his sources you’ll find that sentence is actually about 1 specific sulphur compound not the most common Co2 or any kind of aggregate value of all pollutants
@kellybrown8638 3 ай бұрын
Icon of the Seas, what a HELLISH cruise!
@VNeto94 2 ай бұрын
You should see youtube reviews of that cruise.
@roberthicks2191 2 ай бұрын
Is the problem cruise ships or tourism? What is the waste and pollution from land based resorts, and are cruise ships just a roll-up of transportation plus resort all in one? The sum of tourism impacts?
@stephenboyington630 2 ай бұрын
Land-based resorts are unlikely to use the dirtiest form of fuel for their energy needs, and are unlikely to pump their waste and sewage directly into the ocean.
@alexphelps7042 2 ай бұрын
Disney world burns coal. Well coal & just a dash of nuclear power from a plant with the worst waste disposal in the western world. Disney is just one example but I wouldn’t say it’s “unlikely” resorts would use the worst, they’re only in it for the money
@lorenam8028 2 ай бұрын
"Eco-tourism" and cruise ship do NOT go together. Anyone who believes it is possible, is probably also paying for carbon offset credits. 🙄
@prosperousnatasha8153 3 ай бұрын
No wonder the sea level is rising, I can only imagine the waste at the bottom of the ocean. Where do they discard waste, human feces etc?
@potathooo 2 ай бұрын
Waste from trashcans and any plastic waste are stored aboard and offloaded in port. Food waste from the galleys can be ground up and tossed overboard if sufficiently far from shore, and sewage is either stored in tanks or treated and discharged if far away from shore. It is highly illegal to discharge oil waste overboard.
@varen4662 2 ай бұрын
he who says that the light from the ship will cause problems for life in the water does not know the darkness of the sea
@VNeto94 2 ай бұрын
Or the vastness of it.
@MrRMT1986 2 ай бұрын
If The Guardian had it there way, cruising would be banned. Only Leo DiCaprio would be allowed to own a 100 foot yacht.
@jimmylieb5225 2 ай бұрын
FDJT
@MrRMT1986 2 ай бұрын
@@jimmylieb5225 Alright. Way to use discourse to argue, because you have no argument.
@BIBIWCICC Ай бұрын
One of the biggest polluters on the planet!
@sweetnaomi56 2 ай бұрын
They're still horrible this is why I won't go on cruises
@redzzon Ай бұрын
There is the business of drilling for oil that leaves a debt for earth to fill gaps. Then there is drilling for debt, public and private and individuals. Some drilling of individuals will lead some to fill gaps by selling their assets and some innovate to improve their process and some compete and fire incompetence at their jobs. How did that start, with entertainment drilling for a persons access to money. Maybe it results in earthquake/stress.
@FindtheRightRoad 2 ай бұрын
I am skeptical of some of the statements made in this video. Where is the evidence? 25% of all Ocean pollution comes from cruise ships?? Really?
@tombarry2523 2 ай бұрын
Exactly 👍
@donlitt Ай бұрын
We only have a tiny fraction of the ocean mapped out but somehow we know that 1/4 of all the pollution is from cruises 😂😂
@rafaelwilks 2 ай бұрын
Cruise ships would be okay if they were powered with either hydrogen fuel cells or nuclear reactors, and if all the waste was contained onboard. Otherwise, if a cruise ship doesn't meet these criteria, it should totally be banned.
@VNeto94 2 ай бұрын
Haha no.
@rafaelwilks 2 ай бұрын
@@VNeto94 why
@anonymmus2 2 ай бұрын
Four times the CO2 than ALL cars in Europe just for unnecessary leisure travel? How can this be still legal
@jhinsch799 2 ай бұрын
Not CO2. Particulates.
@RusskiCommieBot Ай бұрын
Because life is not fair.
@reamsel 2 ай бұрын
and where is EU?!!? They banned plastic straws but allow this???
@alastairbattson5123 2 ай бұрын
I would love to see the CO2 numbers broken down by input data. "four times more CO2 per passenger than flying." Seems fishy to me. What is the actual comparison factor/s? Moving forward per mile? I find it hard to believe that defying gravity with a passenger and luggage, plus everything else burns less fuel per person than a floating ship. If you flew a plane on the same trip around say the Caribbean and landed and took off at each destination the ship went to, is it really less energy?
@clement2780 2 ай бұрын
travel and environment are not compatible never mind humans are not
@owconundrum9928 Ай бұрын
"became", lol...
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