How Cummins Nearly Won Indy 500 With A Truck Engine

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- Timestamps -
00:00 Intro
00:44 Head of Cummins
01:48 Reason for racing
02:37 1930s Indy 500 attempts
03:38 1950 Indy 500 Green Hornet
04:46 Building a weapon
05:42 Clever chassis design
06:21 Indy 500 engine specs
07:30 Tremendous success
08:29 The engine failure
09:20 Right time to end
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“Cummins - History of Innovation - Indianapolis 500” by CumminsCareers
• Cummins - History of I...
“Le Mans - Diesel War - Tribute” by RaceComp
• Le Mans - Diesel War -...
“All Audi R10 vs Peugeot 908 Battles | LMP1 2007 - 2008” by Motor Racing Clips
• All Audi R10 vs Peugeo...
“Cummins 1952 Diesel Special Indy 500 COLD START” by MrPizzaman09
• Cummins 1952 Diesel Sp...
“Diesel Race Car. Diesel Indy Car 1952. Cummins Diesel.” by Moviecraft Inc.
• Diesel Race Car. Diese...
“Cummins History: 1935 Diesel Passenger Car” by Cummins
• Cummins History: 1935 ...
“1950 Peterbilt with 275 Cummins” by Dan thomas
• 1950 Peterbilt with 27...
“Clessie's Diesel-Powered 'Stunts' at the Indianapolis 500 | Clessie Cummins: Hoosier Inventor | WTIU” by WTIU & WFIU - Indiana Public Media
• Clessie's Diesel-Power...
“Cummins History: 1931 Coast-to-Coast with Clessie Cummins” by CumminsEngines
• Cummins History: 1931...
“Cummins - History of Innovation - Indianapolis 500” by CumminsCareers
• Cummins - History of I...
“Cummins Indy 28” by Tony Shaull
• Cummins Indy 28
“Cummins Diesel Engine Sets Lap Record at 1952 Indy 500” by TodaysTrucking
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@JohnnyAFG81 11 ай бұрын

I remember when the Audi TDI went to Lemans, everyone laughed. When they got the podium, everyone cried.

@johncunningham4820 11 ай бұрын

AUDI do build Powerful Engines . Always have from the Auto Union days .

@UmmmmmmmWhat 11 ай бұрын

I miss my old 87 audi 5000 quattro with the inline 5 cylinder. Got hit by a drunk frat boy and was totalled. Did so much dumb stuff in that car on local dirt roads, and even some forestry service trails 😂

@fordf-2505 11 ай бұрын

@Bill M man that sucks, that car sounds awesome

@briegleruyet4139 11 ай бұрын

Le Mans

@frankivey6570 11 ай бұрын

@@fordf-25056th 5th 8th

@andyharman3022 11 ай бұрын

You've outdone yourself, VisioRacer! I'm an ex-Cummins employee, and you hit all the historical high spots. When I started at Cummins in 1990 the 1952 car was still on display at corporate headquarters, they were that proud of it. The effort that Cummins put forth to build a car that would allow its heavy diesel to be competitive influenced Indy car design until the end of the roadster era. The only story that surpasses Cummins 1952 effort with the diesel taking pole position is Penske's 1994 effort with the pushrod Ilmor 500i engine that won the race. Both were effectively banned by rules changes for the next year.

@philtheairplanemechanic 11 ай бұрын

Ooooo. I worked on a couple Cummins at my last job. Mostly QSB4.5 and QSF2.3 or whatever the F series literage was. I loved the 4B but the F was a bit of a turd. Good motor mostly but it was picky about fuel and we clogged the injectors feeding it Jet fuel when the B series didn't care at all. And it took the OEM for the equipment a couple months to get injectors for the F motors. But they were both great to work on. Just overall designed well.

@philtheairplanemechanic 11 ай бұрын

Do you mind if I ask what you worked on at Cummins?

@andyharman3022 11 ай бұрын

@@philtheairplanemechanic Advanced technology V12 28-liter tank engine. And then a turbocharged lean-burn natural gas engine derived from the C-series.

@jackrichards1863 11 ай бұрын

It is a story of amazing creativity . I have a V 504 in my garage. Not really sure where it's going. I would love to put it into a built car or small truck for towing a trailer as a car or as a light truck with four wheel drive. Not as a toy but for practical use.

@tojiroh 11 ай бұрын

@@andyharman3022 the hot stuff! I love the Abrams turbine, but a diesel power train is so much more efficient on an armoured vehicle.

@epicseadragon1692 11 ай бұрын

Wow I had no idea Cummins had been racing at Indianapolis with a diesel! Thanks for bringing this story to us!

@Damien.D 11 ай бұрын

Never heard about this mad endeavour. Always thought Audi TDI in LeMan was the first and only serious diesel race cars ever. We always learn something on this channel... Anyway, the fact that the car still runs today and sounds totally not like a sluggish diesel is another win for Cummins.

@alexisg311 11 ай бұрын

SEAT, the Spanish brand of the VW group, won the German Touring Championship with a Leon TDI a few years ago.

@stoneylonesome4062 11 ай бұрын

I would love to see a video on Isuzu Diesels someday. They (at least ones from the 70’s-00’s) are nearly indestructible, and being so durable are highly tunable, especially with forced induction. They will run until the sun runs out of hydrogen, especially with double row timing chains, iron heads, cylinder sleeves and inline Bosch mechanical injection pumps.

@muhammadabrooramrullah996 11 ай бұрын

I think you'd like to watch isuzu diesel drag races in thailand... One of them can reach 1000 HP from a 4 banger diesel... Just search it in youtube

@themistsouhlarakis9415 11 ай бұрын

Thats one realy good idea Thoose type vids is what i like in this chanel

@briegleruyet4139 11 ай бұрын

All Isuzu engines are not indestructibles. Ask Opel, Honda or Renault

@danielescobar7618 11 ай бұрын

@@briegleruyet4139you donkey, you're specifically ignoring he is specifically talking about the diesels

@CaptHollister 11 ай бұрын

Too bad they could never properly assemble an SUV that didn't break or rust into oblivion

@marsgal42 11 ай бұрын

I've seen the 1950 car in the flesh at the Indianapolis museum. Neat! The 1952 car sounds a lot like a modern Cummins diesel, the sort of engine you would find in a big pickup. These videos always have amazing soundtracks. 😍

@Iowa599 11 ай бұрын

After the race, they hooked up the trailer, and the Cummins race car towed the tools & spare tires home.

@fidelcatsro6948 11 ай бұрын

hahaha wow!

@joshthomas2536 11 ай бұрын

And probably towed a few other cars home too

@mikejohnson5900 11 ай бұрын

Lol...the sound of that thing was making my iPad vibrate - no lie! What a beautiful sound too, that entire car was beautiful. I love the long hood and the way the grille looked!

@cujet 11 ай бұрын

Very interesting video! Thanks for the information and the old film clips. Fascinating that the diesel guys get far more HP today. I like that this project was kept quiet to prevent last minute rule changes.

@Hydrogenblonde 11 ай бұрын

VisioRacer, you never fail to come up with the goods. Tremendous!

@Brian-uy2tj 11 ай бұрын

Very interesting. It is impressive that Cummins is responsible for Indy cars having independent suspension and a few other innovations!

@ExBenzi2 11 ай бұрын

Gotta be the best sounding Diesel I’ve ever heard. Thank you for teaching me this lesson in automotive history :)!

@lqr824 11 ай бұрын

I'm an engine technology geek too and you're one of the only car channels I've watched most videos of. Thanks a lot for the interesting work!

@VisioRacer 11 ай бұрын

Thanks!

@JimmyCasket02 11 ай бұрын

These cummins engines seem like a cool idea hopefully they end up with a good following

@atomicwedgie8176 11 ай бұрын

I hope someday they produce a 5.9 liter... I have a feeling it will be a hit!

@JohnSmith-yv6eq 11 ай бұрын

@@atomicwedgie8176 Maybe a 10.9 as well....

@bmad1386 11 ай бұрын

Hopefully they'll one day produce a 14 liter inline 6😊

@jackrichards1863 11 ай бұрын

Pretty keen Cummins fan myself. For such a long time the fueling was the same principle that seems to work really effectively. That dependable workable system is where the greatness began.

@Tom-wl9sx 11 ай бұрын

Great video, didn't know that Cummins raced with a diesel engine. Audi always said that they were the first but now I'll know. 🙂

@JohnSmith-yv6eq 11 ай бұрын

1st at Le Mans......

@ThePontiacgto65 11 ай бұрын

Hi, Always nice videos. and well illustrated with very interesting period documents. Always good job👍🏻

@leonb2637 11 ай бұрын

As often with race cars, they are 'rolling laboratories' for trying innovations considered or actually later used in production vehicles. For Cummins, they were based in Indiana, the Indy 500 was as now one of the biggest motor vehicle races in the world, they wanted to promote their diesel engines for use in trucks and it was successful even if failed to finish. As this video also noted, it encouraged the concept of flat or pancake diesel engines in certain applications as well as 'flat' style engines in race cars at Indy and other forms of oval racing as well as 'roadster' drive train and body designs until rear engine designs in the early to mid-1960's.

@FlatlanderGear 11 ай бұрын

I’ve always loved your old list formats but this documentary style is excellent.

@Maj_Kasul 11 ай бұрын

Luv my Cummins

@dyoung1998 11 ай бұрын

Gay

@justcruise241 11 ай бұрын

Seen that crazy Patrol Cummins the Skid Factory made? It's insane.

@fidelcatsro6948 11 ай бұрын

my cat loves u too! 🐱♥️♥️♥️

@Xayuap 11 ай бұрын

@joe125ful 11 ай бұрын

Lol it suck....gasoline engine for win:)

@Commander-McBragg 11 ай бұрын

Great job on this video. You’re the best!

@johnsheetz6639 11 ай бұрын

Well now that's a great idea for a movie!

@cyrildrewery6654 11 ай бұрын

Very interesting video with lots of technical details. Thank you !

@fastinradfordable 11 ай бұрын

When you know the story But you wanna hear it from Visioracer anyways.

@WvlfDarkfire 11 ай бұрын

"If you learned something, it's never a loss."

@MachineintheMonkey 11 ай бұрын

Another excellent video VisioRacer👍

@vapno92 11 ай бұрын

Hell yeah, finally!

@marsgal42 11 ай бұрын

These vehicles are irreplaceable, priceless antiques. You're never going to hear their engines in anger.

@waynescott1338 11 ай бұрын

Do a search on u tube for 1952 Indy 500 race

@vapno92 11 ай бұрын

@@waynescott1338 Yeah I know, I saw every single film with this car, problem is, it’s an old, optical recording, it’s very distorted... But yeah, You can clearly hear this beast revving over 4000 rpm. Sadly, no turbo noises :(

@alexisg311 11 ай бұрын

Gran trabajo, 👌👌👌 excelente, como siempre. Un saludo desde Madrid, España.

@litefoot900 11 ай бұрын

Great info thanks for the video

@SGR_Blackout 11 ай бұрын

Damn it's been a while since I have seen a video from you suggested on my playlist - hope you're doing well mate!

@TundeEszlari 11 ай бұрын

Fantastic content.

@stevenkerry3101 11 ай бұрын

nice little video 👍

@KristofferEk 11 ай бұрын

I bet you cummins could have actually won if they figured out a good way to get the turbo up higher without damageing the aerodynamic profile of the car.

@mescko Ай бұрын

7:30 Lordy, the snarl of a big straight six! Nothin' like it. Nothin'.

@johncholmes643 11 ай бұрын

The heads and Ego's of every Tow mirror out Cummins boi just multiplied 100x

@gmarshall1026 11 ай бұрын

Another great story thanks

@geraldmanda5573 11 ай бұрын

sounds amazing even for a diesel

@connarcomstock161 9 ай бұрын

There's literally an Audi commerical, I think for Quattro but it may be for their TDI's, that is based around Gandhi's quote "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.”

@NicholasMavrikBrandt 11 ай бұрын

One look at pikes peak, shows all the crazy stuff in motorsports

@jedgarsquink 11 ай бұрын

Front suspension is independent but rear is beam axle.

@76629online 11 ай бұрын

Great story.

@mcjdubpower 11 ай бұрын

Gud vid 😍 as always sir 😉.

@robertpierce1981 11 ай бұрын

Very nice good job

@joe125ful 11 ай бұрын

Well why there is not more diesel race cars? Its really not that hard build for example GT3 one,V6 4.0L Twin turbo Diesel 600Hp/800Nm! 3:02 Wait Supercharger on diesel engine?That is something new to me:)

@K-Effect 7 ай бұрын

2:18 I thought the majority of Hall Scott high horsepower truck engines were Propane or Natural Gas powered engines just like the one picture here. My friends father drove one for years hauling produce in California, he said it was the king of the road for a long time back than

@NLynchOEcake 11 ай бұрын

The car Gran Turismo was too scared to diss

@deborahchesser7375 11 ай бұрын

I’m surprised they did come back the next year and win but I’m sure all the gasoline guys protested it right out of the competition the one thing people don’t know is how a diesel is designed to run full tilt all day and all night, outpacing gas engines with mileage and reliability 🇺🇸🐾✌️

@rogerdc7279 11 ай бұрын

Fantastic

@TheSilverShadow17 11 ай бұрын

Honorable mention is the Peugeot 908 that raced at Le Mans as well and kicked Audi's ass in the 2010 event

@fuse8052 11 ай бұрын

I like how I'm not seeing clouds of bro smoke from this engine

@kaiosobreira 11 ай бұрын

id love if you made a video on a brazilian truck, fnm or as its called in brazil, fenemê

@CyanRooper 11 ай бұрын

I like how the No 28 Cummings Diesel Special looks like a hotdog on wheels 🌭

@rikukerola3844 5 ай бұрын

this should be made into movie

@paulfisker 11 ай бұрын

You are still surprising me.

@shawnfoxfirth9684 11 ай бұрын

at 2:17 > Imagine when they started growing .. .

@lmwlmw4468 11 ай бұрын

Yeahp, I'm a Diesel fan as well due to their high torque available at low revs...!!!

@TheEsseboy 11 ай бұрын

Then you should be interested in a steam engine. Doesn't matter if the torque is at high or low revs, what matters is for how broad of an rev range it can maintain it. The M1 Abrams has a engine with about 350 nm of torque, but it does it at 30,000 RPM.

@capt.bart.roberts4975 11 ай бұрын

I'm sitting here wondering how much a me Frank costs? If you have to ask it's not a car you can afford to run! Beautiful looking car, very sixties futuristic. 🔥😈🔥

@lavawolf666 11 ай бұрын

"How Cummins Diesel Won The Indianapolis 500" it didnt, "How Cummins Diesel was the fastest on The Indianapolis 500" is the correct one

@VisioRacer 11 ай бұрын

It won/achieved, what was set as a goal. It was not meant as a racing victory. I thought it would spark some questions to convince viewers to click on the video.

@lavawolf666 11 ай бұрын

@VisioRacer it achieved his goals and got new valuable information . But no indianapolis 500. Like you say the car didn't finish. And never raced again. So until today no diésel has ever won indy 500. But well you can make a video of othe car that almost won indy 500. STP Turbocar, a bearing failed 4 laps before the ending

@VisioRacer 11 ай бұрын

@@lavawolf666 Yes, I could

@warrenfloyd1484 11 ай бұрын

Now that's cool!!

@Rose_Butterfly98 11 ай бұрын

I don't understand why people wouldn't believe diesel engines would be good for endurance racing. There are usually horsepower limits which diesel engines can reach. Sure they may be heavier, but they're also more fuel efficient so you don't have to stop for fuel so much, or you can offset the weight with less fuel. They also have much flatter power curves so you can stay in max power for much longer, not to mention possibly hit peak power earlier and then just stay there. Then there's the reliability. Guess which vehicle drives for hours and hours on the road. A truck.

@andreamassara590 11 ай бұрын

A very good job, spoiled by a bad title.

@neddy1287 11 ай бұрын

Funnily enough my surname is Cummins and I go like a clapper 😂😂😂

@fidelcatsro6948 11 ай бұрын

Wow! we should make Cummins motorcycles too!! 🐱👍🏿

@someguy9520 11 ай бұрын

You would essentially never have to use the throttle to pull away from a spot. Fuel mileage could be astronomical or abyssmal for a motorcycle. The rear tire would be chewed up quite often with all that torque when applied But the added weight would be horrendous and the vibrations would shake your bones(even rubber mounted) If Cummins made a small displacement diesel engine, that woudl be interesting with a turbo or two slapped on top

@fidelcatsro6948 11 ай бұрын

@@someguy95202 liter triple cylinder 2 stroke cummins supercharged dieselbusa 🐱👍🏿

@someguy9520 11 ай бұрын

@@fidelcatsro6948 holy shit That sounds awsome Put that thing in a goldwing or a lightweight naked bike and boom

@fidelcatsro6948 11 ай бұрын

@@someguy9520 exhaust goes like clunka clunka vroom vroom..

@ksmith1298 11 ай бұрын

That car is beautiful

@tojiroh 11 ай бұрын

VisioRacer coming clutch with the yummy brain food... Skrrt skrrt bussin respectfully or whatever Zoomer lingo is being used these days 😜

@anthonyxuereb792 11 ай бұрын

I wonder should they have visited Germany to get some ideas on diesel engines that might have improved their racing engines? Just a thought.

@jnk26 11 ай бұрын

Torque is the only force. Large slow turning motors can acheive the same thing as a small displacement engine wound out to the nines. Torque is manipulated by the transmission. I would rather have a 11-13L diesel in my pickup than a 3.5L or 6.7L. It would litterally idle down the highway. And last 1.5 million miles

@Look_What_You_Did 11 ай бұрын

LOL.... HP is what you are using son.

@jnk26 11 ай бұрын

@lookwhatyoudid5907 hp is just and equation for work over time. It doesn't not exist with out torque and rpm. Torque is the only force at play.

@royaltee5896 11 ай бұрын

First car to do the 500 miles on one tank of fuel

@stephenscholes4758 11 ай бұрын

Miller's, aside, I thought all American racing engines were from Trucks, Oilers or otherwise?

@Orygunner67 11 ай бұрын

Sweet😊

@rustyturner431 11 ай бұрын

OK... This was a technical achievement for Cummins, bit it did NOT "nearly win" Indy. If it had completed the 500 miles, the best the car would have done was probably third, and that's assuming the tires didn't come apart in a turn. Again, interesting...but you didn't have to overstate the case.

@-DC- 11 ай бұрын

Diesel ❤️

@technodrone313 11 ай бұрын

cummins was a nut

@misterhipster9509 11 ай бұрын

It would be more accurate to call the engine a highly developed example.

@Xayuap 11 ай бұрын

it ain't no gansta like a front midship rear tractioned I6 turbo diesel injected. wannit ganstier? slant it 85°, drive it by the left, and paint it like the Sun

@Velocitist 11 ай бұрын

3:42

@danielescobar7618 11 ай бұрын

Hot dog paint scheme vroom vroom vroom

@dannymostarac1799 11 ай бұрын

Cummins😊

@msgretrogamer 10 ай бұрын

Diesel is so much better to drive than petrol. All that torque combined with an auto box is the ultimate lazy drivers car.

@Mbartel500 11 ай бұрын

The title is click bait!! Cummins never won the Indy 500.

@VisioRacer 11 ай бұрын

I see that very few see the victory of reaching their goal of the increase in sales and reputation.

@thomasburke7995 11 ай бұрын

It must be noted.. a 2 stroke diesel made by either DETROIT DIESEL or Catapiller is much better at developing power..

@m.k_dk7622 11 ай бұрын

I remember the days when diversity wasn't so controversial

@softwave1662 11 ай бұрын

It didn’t win the race, just the pole.

@JTA1961 11 ай бұрын

Great observation...

@VisioRacer 11 ай бұрын

They did win the sales and reputation they sought for

@Orygunner67 11 ай бұрын

👍😎👍

@aquilaaudax6033 11 ай бұрын

✋🏼🇦🇺👍🏼

@timothylessing4774 11 ай бұрын

6 in a row ready to tow 8 in a vee well you can imagine

@Ninja_Revenge 11 ай бұрын

Torque wins races

@TheEsseboy 11 ай бұрын

Nope, power, airodynamics and handling wins races. Torque and RPM doesn't matter unless you got enough of both.

@tooge47 11 ай бұрын

are there no AMERICAN narrators?

@sleebanger 11 ай бұрын

so it didn't win the indy 500.

@timothylessing4774 11 ай бұрын

6=8

@timothylessing4774 11 ай бұрын

Repeat after me, Cummins Cummings Cummins See the Difference?¿?

@FRITZI999 11 ай бұрын

this Documentary makes is look as if an American had invented the Diesel Engine - we need to mention here that it was RUDOLPH DIESEL, a German Engineer and Inventor!