How Dad Shoes Became So Cool | The Complex Sneakers Podcast

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In this episode the co-hosts dissect why there’s been a recent boom in performance running models from Asics, New Balance and other brands. They also talk about the origin of the “Cool Dad Shoe” boom of 2017-2018. Elsewhere in the episode, Dunne, Welty and JLP talk about the upcoming Terror Squad Air Force 1s and compare the project to the Tiffany & Co x Nike Air Force 1. Finally the crew comments on Hoka and On’s rise in the market.
Chapters:
0:00 - 06:14: Host Intros / Best Beach Footwear
06:15 - 08:39 Nike Innovation Store In NYC
08:40 - 13:58 Working At Dick’s Versus Foot Locker
13:59 - 18:10: Footscape Sneaker Renaissance?
18:11 - 24:30 Terror Squad Air Force 1s
24:31 - 29:19 Jersey City’s New Balance / More Big Bubbles
29:20 - 34:43: Sneaker Cam
34:44 - 42:14 This Week’s Topic/ The Dad Shoe Era’s Start
42:15 - 51:47: The Current Boom Of Mesh Runners
51:48 - 57:48: Balenciaga’s Influence and Steve Jobs
57:49 - 01:08:16: Sneakerheads’ Tastes Aging / Hoka and On
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@al3xaguirr3 11 ай бұрын

Dad shoes are comfortable. As you get older you realize a lot of shoes are not comfortable, even if they look good. New Balance has done an amazing job of taking comfortable shoes and letting designers get creative with colors and materials.

@christopherrodriguez9514 11 ай бұрын

I dont get why shoes arent the shape of feet…..

@prosperomiponle7645 11 ай бұрын

@@christopherrodriguez9514Yep that’s a big reason Yeezy took off as it did. Jordan’s just DON’T feel right because they’re not shaped like feet. Yeezys and New balances are shaped like feet and look good 👍🏾

@esco8730 11 ай бұрын

Asics too

@danielyang6100 11 ай бұрын

Welty been killing it lately on the podcast.

@benduncan6256 11 ай бұрын

Welty is the personification of evil. …he may in fact be the Antichrist.

@spliffsoldier 11 ай бұрын

Come for joe, stay for welt. These is facts

@mattkaminski1832 11 ай бұрын

Can we give the man his own show already

@benduncan6256 11 ай бұрын

@@mattkaminski1832 How long have you been worshiping Satan?

@Birmp. 11 ай бұрын

After he dropped the hat he never wore a hat again

@blackguysleepy 11 ай бұрын

Thanks, Joe! The Bear is the best show of 2023! Also, yes I notice everyones shoes nowadays, thanks to you guys.

@ineverswag 11 ай бұрын

I think the raf simons ozweegos were the first to bring the dad shoe hype to the newer gen and the new era. 2013/2014 ish if I’m not mistaken

@tedztlee 11 ай бұрын

this podcast is so for the culture love tuning in!

@40_oZ 11 ай бұрын

been wearing dunks a long time but finally pulled the trigger and grabbed some Asics and NBs. and I’m real happy I did. my feet have never been happier.

@smeetingle3426 11 ай бұрын

Hey! Which NBs did you get?

@dyrellehart7887 11 ай бұрын

New balance went from dad shoe. To, i see why my dad wore this shoe.

@mikecolts21 11 ай бұрын

Welty dropping the knowledge as always 🙌🏾

@smeetingle3426 11 ай бұрын

Absolutely!

@jeremyarevalo5665 11 ай бұрын

Shouts out to Welty for not being ashamed of his faith but also not pushing it on the viewers, great show.

@paulpierre4895 11 ай бұрын

I need those lol

@ronalddesjardins3547 11 ай бұрын

History repeats, late 90s the sneaker game went through this.. Saucony, Asics, NBs...

@cmn225 11 ай бұрын

i was born in the late '90s didn't see it but you're not the first person i've heard say this

@steeziak 11 ай бұрын

Also - new Asics Skateboarding line that just dropped is pretty sick. Would love to hear y'alls take

@AyyRios 11 ай бұрын

I love waking up to complex sneaker podcast on Friday mornings

@smeetingle3426 11 ай бұрын

Nothing matches that feeling!

@stuartswanton1676 11 ай бұрын

Comfort is key, but I also think people are smarter with their money. How many times we've spent 150-200 on Nike/Jordan to get a pair covered in glue but with new balance I've never had a that problem.

@Sneakahead555 11 ай бұрын

Kick game so properrrrr ! My Salomon’s have been in daily rotation since I bought them. My 2002r’s have slightly fallen out of my rotation but an amazing sneaker. Infrared 6’s, favorite sneaker of all time man ! Such an amazing conversation ! Great job guys !

@sheikhjames 11 ай бұрын

I like this podcast the most. So interesting to think about counter-designs to what fashions are in right now. Adidas Tubular pump from the year 1991 was my favourite technical sneaker when i was 11 years old. Really want Adidas to bring back the OG 1991 version in the different 3 colour ways.

@jamess.9743 11 ай бұрын

the designers themselves are getting older and want comfort so makes sense they work on things like NB and Asics

@adolfovivar12 11 ай бұрын

57:06 The 2002r were probably one of the first mesh runners shoe that got a huge popularity. But now people are looking into the 1906r, 860v2, and especially the 530 that everyone are hunting to get their hands on. They are all super comfortable as well.

@petesneaks7366 11 ай бұрын

We went from Nike basketball to Nmds to element 87/ waffles to dad shoes to dunks to mesh runners. So interesting to see how the culture changes

@mattkaminski1832 11 ай бұрын

Welty needs his own show!

@krhawkins91 11 ай бұрын

Since I'm from DC we been wearing dad shoes since the 80's.

@vzinfamous 11 ай бұрын

Welty was spittin this episode. Love the show guys

@Cstmade 11 ай бұрын

Shout out BIG JLP with the Oregon Trail game recall. Definitely a great game. Looked forward to computer class in 7th grade only because of that game. 😂

@aaronlevine9571 11 ай бұрын

Welty delivering insight after insight, in the zone!

@lrdmiddlefinger 11 ай бұрын

I've leaned into the Dad shoes for years. They've always been dope!

@AHenryAdventure 11 ай бұрын

cheers for a fire ep as always! good friday vibes

@anthonypowelljr.1262 11 ай бұрын

Amazing episode! So much knowledge being dropped from different perspectives

@DodySuratman 11 ай бұрын

Both GT-21xx and 860v2 (and its 767, 768 predecessors) were legit stability running shoes in early 2000's just like the Kayano. They were upper mid level running shoes. They were never trendy or worn for fashion. I was still wearing my 860v2 I bought from 2012 until last year and was surprised when I found them on NB website for sale.

@krob41 11 ай бұрын

La puma.. I too caught that scene from the bear.. Absolutely fire!

@learenng1267 11 ай бұрын

ALD 860s too niche to blowup like the 550s. As long as street wear brands keep coming up with clean cws and design, i can see the mesh runners coming in and out of fashions trends. Kith 1130s go so hard tho 🔥

@likesneaker3238 11 ай бұрын

Great show and perspective on the return of the mesh performance shoes! 😄

@lowkeybredhead8083 11 ай бұрын

Weltys favorite topic

@thapalemexican 11 ай бұрын

😂

@KelvinHew7 11 ай бұрын

To each their own

@aaronr6063 11 ай бұрын

Joe recognizing the shoes in the bear is amazing

@BWen3 11 ай бұрын

I was working at sports authority/oshmans in high school when the Kayano 14 came out. I was rocking those and the nimbus heavy! And I was far from cross country runner type. The comfort was unmatched. I remember lots of people on the sole collector forums also rocking. Welty you don’t know all. 😅

@HappyGutenberg 11 ай бұрын

Welty Knows his NB I’m Adidas boost comfort fan since 2014 but last year after I tried the NB 2002r made me buy a couple of pairs so comfy and better looking for my age 😅

@inalaboyy 11 ай бұрын

TNs & ASICS are to Australian sneaker heads what JORDANS & DUNKS are to American sneaker heads, always have been. Only difference is we’ve been on that for years aswell as Js & Dunks. I have over 60pairs of TNs & 10-15 ASICS on top of Jordan’s & dunks but much prefer TNs/ASICS due to comfortability & CWs

@hamgil 4 ай бұрын

Nah TNs are usually associated with eshays and dropkicks so most people avoid them tbh.

@inalaboyy 4 ай бұрын

@@hamgil “eshay” means yes, proves your age & ‘knowledge’ of a subculture. Been a searcher & collecting TNs long before that was even a word cuz. Humble yourself.

@jnordelo1 11 ай бұрын

I think the pod needs to update the whats on feet section to a full fit, I need to know where some of these fire garments are from!

@ryanh5848 11 ай бұрын

JLP great tidbit. Def more to explore on The Bear and the fashion they’ve brought into the show 🔥🔥

@alidawood6109 11 ай бұрын

Props to whoever edits these that intro was smooth af

@WJacob8940 11 ай бұрын

If Welty is ever going to tell a story, nothing will stop that story being told. 😂 no matter how many times he has to start, he WILL get through the full event 😂

@ericlonzo2247 11 ай бұрын

Great conversations and topics.

@FUZIONHERE 11 ай бұрын

I been wearing my new balance 9060 beef & broccoli this summer I love em

@1MooreShop 11 ай бұрын

LL Bean flagship shoutout is crazy! Mainer here

@mariolopez3068 3 ай бұрын

I’m so glad I copped and acted quickly cos they were selling fast on every size from every website the day of the release . I also swapped to the black laces and they look pretty dope!

@tajaipaul891 2 ай бұрын

I think that the new balance 550 craze came from the rise of dunks and sbs(much of which can be attributed to Travis and panda hype). And as a dunk being your first sneaker head shoe your going to want something more comfortable after that and the 550 was the halfway house so to speak for rocking more comfortable sneakers. A lot of the 550 wearers are onto other NBs or ASICS now. Part of it also is the amount of trend hoppers; they aren’t into kicks so they just hop from whatever was popular to the new thing to stay in the now. My sneakerhead friends and I were rocking Monarchs in an attempt at counter culture back in ‘10-‘14, we even rocked 999s, Gel Lyte 3s, Bodega collabs, and SBs(Shanghai 2s, Tiffs, DeLas, Newcastle). Back then much like now I was always looking for shoes I knew no one else would have on.

@_KMAC_ 11 ай бұрын

I saw the shoe on Marcus from the Bear. I ain't leaving you hanging Joe! 😄

@mikeylala8076 11 ай бұрын

That “functional” thing Welty mentioned around 1:02/1:03 mark coincides with the GORPCORE thing happening now

@hunterwilliams4930 11 ай бұрын

JLP, Lionel's character wearing a pair of 990v1s in Copenhagen was heat too

@adolfovivar12 11 ай бұрын

59:27 Like Welty, Joe, and Brendan mention everyone is becoming more active so therefore everyone wants to buy the most comfortable and performance running shoe they can get. I notice a lot of people are starting to buy more New Balance 1080s, 880s, 860s and More v4s for their daily walking shoes due to its sock like fabric material.

@georgecallacna621 11 ай бұрын

Hehe I have the jjjjounds and ALDs. I knew they would be hits😊

@eths_games 8 ай бұрын

Welty is the main character now

@kristianherr2013 11 ай бұрын

I'm literally wearing pink and purple Asics Gel kayano 22s while I'm watching this podcast

@Dill_doh 11 ай бұрын

29:44 those are some nice white socks Welty got on

@prosperomiponle7645 11 ай бұрын

1:00:42 what’s wrong with Disruptors tho? I’ve been in college for 3 years and they’ve been my daily driver since basically day one. They provide decent comfort and they’re easy to slip on and off even when relatively loosely laced. I have however been considering switching to a pair of 1130s tho

@BWen3 11 ай бұрын

The waverunner and the triple S are what I think of first when people were first calling thing dad shoes in fashion/pop culture. I know that’s not the true genesis of the term. But I’m 2017, in the context of streetwear/fashion it was wave runner and then lots of chunky copycats. Not NB (on mass appeal scale) until a few years later.

@WrongWayJ 11 ай бұрын

Exactly what I was thinking, the waverunner and triple s is what I think of when I hear people talk about the start of the dad shoe.

@KJ-bz6sg 11 ай бұрын

Welty -not so- lowkey defending whoever gifts him shoes. We see you, sir.

@dagwoodchat6350 11 ай бұрын

I started drinking those polar drinks Welty drinks. They are awesome 👌

@albertsebastian4489 11 ай бұрын

That’s why I rock NBs and ASICS to separate me from these fashion victims wearing dunks and AJ1s.. like everyone you see wear Jordan 1s and those hideous panda dunks..But I do have some forums and air max 1 on my rotation which I still love..

@race22 11 ай бұрын

Can't be mad at the forums 👌

@GuwapoAP 11 ай бұрын

Do you see certain current performance shoes will be retroed a number of years from now that includes current technology like higher stack or plated shoes?

@fernriosphoto 11 ай бұрын

Yes watching The Bear 🐻 1:00:30 👏🏻👏🏻

@kevincollins8620 11 ай бұрын

35:32 I have the 2016 990v4 Crazy ive had em so long. Still in great condition. Made in usa.

@YoungAmzn 11 ай бұрын

I NEED those action Bronson baklava 1906!!!🔥🔥🔥🔥

@r4yyy559 11 ай бұрын

how they ignore kikos work on the knit asics is insane TALK ABOUT KIKO

@pariskimart 11 ай бұрын

nice talk. ANNND other brands also like Crocs?(i know we talk about only sneakers...) crocs has now so many designers collab.

@BrandonTillotson 11 ай бұрын

You know Dunne had that backpack on wheels.

@J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J 11 ай бұрын

Fr dudes a nerd 🤓

@janiksam 11 ай бұрын

what a timing to talk about Teddy pushing the 860v2 just a few days before it happens

@BookerT69 11 ай бұрын

That Anders episode is still my favorite

@fernriosphoto 11 ай бұрын

1:07:16 the number one ranked tennis player Iga Swaitek also looks like she’s sponsored by ON - that’s all she wore at Wimbledon.

@kevincollins8620 11 ай бұрын

Im not an airforce 1 guy... I'm here for them Terror Squad AF1!

@kevxxxedge 11 ай бұрын

Welty killed it 💪🏻

@Papertryl 11 ай бұрын

Dunne's button down is fire.

@dieserrobi 11 ай бұрын

Joe I just wanted to let you know that I feel you with the J6 story

@riggleStar 11 ай бұрын

Even though Welty wears fake kicks, he has good points sometimes.

@aiiightcoolsafe 11 ай бұрын

this is now officially the matt welty podcast.

@roygarcia6266 11 ай бұрын

Big The 🐻 fan, thanks Joe

@l.j.russell902 11 ай бұрын

After Yeezy left I feel like New balance took the 2nd place in the sneaker game behind Nike. Nike has a deep catalogue of early 2000’s dad runners too so idk why they don’t release more

@gunniellottjr483 11 ай бұрын

My Nike Woven footscape skull pack are still comfy but my 360 bubble is cloudy. How can I fix if fixable.

@sneakermancano 11 ай бұрын

I got introduced to hoka shoes after a torn foot tendon and needed a shoe to relieve pain off my toes and hoka shoes will out do any shoe in comfort reason why they are on a lot of people feet.

@Jon_87 11 ай бұрын

17:41 did we forget about the Jordan Futures!?

@Kurtdelfino 11 ай бұрын

The BEAR when I saw that ep. and him wearing the 6s I was like to my wife 👉🏽🔥🔥 I had to wear mine the next day.

@joshhutton9534 11 ай бұрын

To me, dad shoes and retro runners are different. Chunky aesthetic shoes like Monarchs, 608s, to Wave Runners, 990s, etc are more dad shoe. Kayano 14s, 860v2, 1906s, Triumph 4s, etc are more retro runners. More of the slimmer mesh based shoes. I don't put them in the same category. Similar but different. I'm here for them.

@cmn225 11 ай бұрын

i think the Monarchs, 608s, Salomons, & Hokas of the world are the TRUE "dad shoes" & the 990 series are retro runners but other than that i agree

@LuisGonzalez-kp3cj 11 ай бұрын

ALD Has the best loyalty program.

@modogg-kingofthestreets9843 11 ай бұрын

Welty has this show on his back now.

@peterrossini6345 11 ай бұрын

Yo when JLP wanted to dress Welty up for the New bs Jersey city release was hilarious

@bigrob7623 11 ай бұрын

Best beach shoe? Gotta go with the Nike boat shoes. Does anyone know the name of the Nike boat shoes?

@UkMxGhost 11 ай бұрын

Roger Federer in the podcast will be a dream

@imMATTure 11 ай бұрын

Brendan, we’re about the same age but lets be honest about dad shoes. In the early 2000s, hs especially, the kids who wore “dad” shoes were straight up nerds lol. They all wore the super technical cross training sneakers. All the cool kids were wearing air forces, phat farms, shox, retro ajs, and bootleg ajs 😂. Athletes wore whatever was appropriate to their sport or airmaxs. Thanks to our boy Kanye, ofc i ,like everyone else, fell for the hype when the waverunners dropped 😅

@mattkaminski1832 11 ай бұрын

I’m only into new balance right now but like Welty said I’m finding myself trying to make the transition to ASICS but I can’t just yet for some reason

@joshhutton9534 11 ай бұрын

Don't do it. You won't be able to stop

@cmn225 11 ай бұрын

Asics are fire bruh pull the trigger

@mattkaminski1832 11 ай бұрын

@@cmn225 what do you recommend? I was thinking the kith 1130 or the kith kayanos

@cmn225 11 ай бұрын

@@mattkaminski1832 1130s

@RustleXer 11 ай бұрын

Welty is not wrong about the Gel Asics in Australia. In primary and secondary school we'd use to wear them lots during P.E. and they were seen as acceptable. I wear them still doing cause they're sturdy.

@qu3nt 11 ай бұрын

i tell you this whelty this union will be surely the most used because price will not skydrop and people will rock it

@jayratjayrat 11 ай бұрын

Marcus and Sydney are the freshest characters of the show

@zanemontego8090 11 ай бұрын

My dad don’t wear dad shoes, so I guess I’ll wear em for him.

@BapeX64 11 ай бұрын

Had them 6s on yesterday JLP

@ryanh5848 11 ай бұрын

Worth mentioning the continued frustration of missing on the SNKRS app resorting to loss of loyalty to their brand and a willingness to go elsewhere for footwear