Maybe but dany was infertile

@@Empty_Roar how you know she infertile? They said it in the series or the books?

@@chriscraddock2867 in the books..

@@silvermoon986 in GOT she got pregnant in the first season, after the child died she couldn't bear children anymore..

In the show She went to a witch to get Kahl Drogo revived and the witch took the unborn babe in her womb and used its life force and her fertility to turn Kahl Drogo into a zombie esc thing

As a book reader, you just get used to it eventually.

@@SplendidFactor nice opening for bragging lol

Is kinda like European history. All the king Henry's and such

@@nickcox7504 the westeros Isle resembles the English Isle. The wall refers to the hadrians wall which Romans built to keep the picts away from the south

no it doesnt

The uncle marries his nephew, even the Pharaohs who marry their brothers did not do this

​@@user-cg2tw8pw7j What? They married siblings, but not brothers to brother...

@@thalmoragent9344 Know

@@user-cg2tw8pw7j I'm pretty sure gay marriage wasn't allowed in ancient Egypt.

@@Danjen3ify They appeared at the Kingdom of Thamud, which was ruling the Hijaz, and they were fighting the Kingdom of Kedar

I know right? I couldn't resist, I wanted to get spoiled and know if I was right. Since episode 1 it was made so obvious

It honestly makes the most sense that they would get married

He also marries laena valeryion he has a fling allegedly with Alicent

He cheats on her with multiple women in the books🤣

@@daquaviousbingleton9763 Apparently, Martin's books are filled with lore and myths. THOD is going to clear up the truth from the lore.

She started a war for her to died alone and sick and with all her family line dead.

@@paulabarra5431 It's a shame that Rhaenyra and Daemon didn't really know that they had won. Because after their death Aegon was alive

@@user-df8lp9zq8s yep but the bastard didn’t live to celebrate burn like fat bacon by Syrax he died without an heir 3 months after and the crown was given to Aegon the young Rhaenrya and Daemon’s first son. So, it was the most satisfying end to that fat big as he made Aegon III watch the most horrific and disgusting thing a human can do to another and latter Alicent’s granddaughter died sadly the same way her pour mother (both victims of alicent and Aegon) did without giving young Aegon an heir. So alicent did all she did for her entire family to vanish by the end of the dance with dragons. 👏bravo what a freaking idiot. While Aegon the young went on to marry a Valeryon and the blood line carried from there. So the Sea Snake, Rhaenys, Leana, leanor, daemon and Rhaenrya they all were cheering in the after life.

@@user-df8lp9zq8s aegon II was truly the weakiest targaryen and it bothers me how rhaenyra was villainized, aegon II steals the throne while she was in labor, killed her children stole the kingdom's gold to fund his army and erased her from the history books and she is the villain? once daemon kills vhagar he was fucked, he basically lost to rhaenys and baela even though they had weaker dragons than him and aemond, he never trully cared for sunfyre either as he was damaged goods by the time he won, his only accomplishment was killing rhaenyra which meant nothing since he dies anyway and her bloodline/lineage kept going and the hightower family line dies

also rhaenyra was always the true heir , also better prepared to be queen which is the reason viserys never replaced her as heir to the throne since she was instructed by him and aemma, unlike aegon II who was instructed by otto and alicent which resulted in the family line dead, she also wouldnt have harmed aegon II without being betrayed

I read somewhere that he pays people to help him keep track of stuff.

I think he is just really enjoying being wealthy now which mostly slows his writing xD

And he also gets off on the incest... so much incest!

His room is just full of cocaine now. That s why he cant finish shit anymore

Writers.....mostly the already succesful writer usually have writer team (new writer). Sometimes some writers just let them do the work or pays ghostwriter.

me 2

baby was a paid actor

@@orxnges561 …

That baby looked like it went through 7 Hells

I have a question , how did rhaegar gain power after dance of dragons?

It sounds awful lol. I prefer the way Arya pronounced it in GoT, his mother as Ray-knees so he’d be Ay-knees. Even the way they pronounce it in HotD, Ray-niece would sound fine as Ay-niece. Anything better than Ranus and Anus! 😂

@@piratesswoop725 i think it should be Anuls lol

No she’s pronouncing about 90% of the names wrong lol

GRRM 😂😂

Maybe she doesn't go Mad Queen on a separate Earth-899

Aa

Lmao 😅

SSSHHHHH... Don't tell them.... SSSSHHHHHHH

EXACTLY... trying to follow all these baby daddies is frustrating.. I really don't know why George R Martin wrote it like that. also it's not really mathematically feasible a human being only lives to be somewhere between 70 and a hundred years old they have men fathering like three generations of people not really possible in 100-year period you can't have eight different fathers. But it's a book series and a TV show so I guess it's okay. LOL

And that young child of Rhaegar and Elia is known as Young Griff (Real name: Aegon Targaryen), he is claimed to be survived from Mountain's massacre. PS: A popular theory is that he is actually not a son of Rhaegar and Elia, he is an imposter, in fact he is the last Blackfyre. It would be very interesting, if he is revealed to be a Blackfyre :)

Among us?

Exactly. Hence "A Song of Ice and Fire" not Sun and Fire.

Thank you for adding this. Very important point that was wrong in the video

There's too many aegons

and that's tv show canon only, the same show that straight up left out Jaehaerys II and Shaera

Yeah that retcon happened in season 1

Yes that is so true I just saw that clip

it was an error that was later admitted by the show

@@sanvalentine23 Eah, happens...

GOT is not canon

Saera was pretty much dead in the eyes of Jaehaerys, and Vaegon, being a maester, was pretty much dead in family name.

She also said the great counsel was like on the show except it was Leanor who was up against Vacerys

The only children of Jaehaerys there is evidence existed in the show are Aemon (Rhaenys's dad), Baelon, Alyssa (Viserys and Daemon's parents) and Daella (Aemma's mother). Tragedy claimed 'both his sons' which most likely means there's no Vaegon in the show universe. Saera probably exists, since there were still lots of rival claims at the Great Council. But she won't be relevant.

Maesters are required to forget their family names, right? They give up their entire familial and political history? I'm still new to Game of Thrones and the whole franchise, so it's definitely confusing, but if what I just stated is true, then that means Vaegon was technically not a Targaryen anymore. Simply just Maester Vaegon. Saera being exiled definitely kicks her out of the family Targaryen. Though both were still alive, and had Targaryen genes, it's possible they weren't considered true Targaryens due to their statuses.

@@lynnxx1744 yes, you are correct about maesters. Maester Aemon was a prince and son of Maekar, and ahead of Aegon V, but he abdicated the crown and that's why his younger brother became king. It's similar to the Night's Watch, they can't hold lands, titles, get married or have children. That's why Samwell Tarly was disinherited as heir to House Tarly.

Nah....rhaegar Targaryen was already dead when jon was born. Rhaegar, according to prophecy might have wanted third head of the dragon, who might be a girl, as Aegon and Rhaenys his children were already born. He might have wanted to name his third child after Visenya...but his baby was of wrong gender lol

@@amyra8159 He was dead? You mean he can't have told Lyanna the name before he died?

@@richcheckmaker9789 season 8 is nonsense it makes no since for rheagar to name 2 of his sons the same name .

@@thatoneblackdude3333 That part makes sense, he thinks the prince that was promised is going to be his son with Elia Martell at first so he names him Aegon, then later he realizes his son with Lyanna is the real prince that was promised so also names him Aegon.

@@richcheckmaker9789 no it doesn't rheagar intended to have a daughter Visenya to recreate the original 3 headed Dragon he also died before Jon was even born so there's no way he'd know what gender he was or prepare a mane for him Jon's targaryen name being aegon was a tv creation because they threw away the lore and rules of the world that's also why they pretend he was the rightful hier over dany when Jon is still legally a basterd because rheagar was already married to another women before getting with leana

I think it was said that Aegon loved one of them a little more than the other, and I think he slept with the younger one a little more often, which is why she had the first kid

Jon's name will be aegon By the time jon was born, rhaegars family had been murdered. Rhaegar didn't name him and had just died Basically, rhaegar has lots of dreams like aegon the conqueror does regarding the prince that was promised and it must be a song of ice and fire. Hence stark and targaryen. He tells lyanna. The prince must be named Aegon, hence when lyanna finds out about kings landing, she names her son aegon. GRRM gave the endings for the characters but apparently he will change it because of the bad reaction lol

For some reason a lot of people seem to want Jon Snow to remain Jon Snow and not be a secret Targaryen. I think for them it adds to his character, a simple bastard rising in life, instead of a secret prince who was promised. I’m still questioning why the show resurrected him, only for Arya to steal his thunder, unless of course Jon snow was just there for Arya as moral support.

@@44unknown83 Well honestly it isn't that the show resurrected Jon, it's that Jon's going to be resurrected in the books. Now, how he comes back in the books and what that'll mean for him remains in question. But the show only did it because GRRM is going to do it in the books. But when he does it won't be because he's going to have some fight with the Night King, because the Night King doesn't exist in the books. So D&D did it, and then just decided to take any remaining storyline they had set up for Jon around that and just chuck it over to Arya. Why? In their own words, it was because they felt like it.

@@44unknown83 - I like Arya killing the NK. Jon did his duty as a leader to unite everyone to fight against the army of the dead. I think it would have been too cliche for him to do it. Arya spent her life training to become an assassin. The show spent a lot of time throughout all the seasons on her. It was fitting for her arc to be the one to do it. Otherwise, all that time watching her grow would have been for nothing.

That is true the show did remove Jaehaerys II Targaryen from the tree.

Why?

Why did they remove J II?

They removed J II T to make Maestor Aemon more closely related to The Mad King and closer to the current time. It's not too late to retcon that though, as the only time it's mentioned is by an elderly Maestor Aemon, who wasn't too far from his deathbed at the time and could have easily been confused given his age.

@@LuciferChapel1987 Great explanation, you should write books or movie scripts.

yep!

lol wow...

There’s still a bunch of Targs and people of Targeryen descent still out there

Not that crazy or interesting considering half the cast share their names, if not more.

The dynasty? We don't know the founder but the earliest is Aenar who fled the valyrian freehold to come to westeros. So he was the first Targaryen lord of Dragonstone. As king it would be Daenerys the last ruler as Jon never ruled westeros and never was officially known as a Targaryen, so not really. He was exiled and still is known as a bastard.

@@SorceressWitch Yes. You have a point. It is just that Aegon is more famous for those watching the show and non book readers. 👍👍

She is the only one he loves besides his brother and himself. 😂

There is just 6 Aegon's,its a headache

Penrose, Plumm, Longwaters also descend from them. A younger son of Hightowers Garmund, had 6 daughters with Rhaena who is Daemon's daughter. His other daughter Baela married Alyn Velaryon and had a child with him. Also there's the blackfyres which is why there were multiple rebellions. Then there's always bastards as well.

Rhaegar was obsessed with the Prince that was Promised prophecy and was convinced the Prince would be named Aegon. So he essentially he wanted to name both of his sons Aegon to ensure the Prince that was Promised would be his son.

@@guLynx that doesnt makes any sense

Exactly

I think they only named Jon as Aegon because they didn't do the FAegon storyline. Otherwise, the book will be very confusing if he's also named Aegon.

@@jedimasters1462 Yeah we will see. But I think that they will name him Aegon in the books as well.

@@commantermormont1657 That would be way too confusing with someone else going by Aegon.

@@jedimasters1462 I dont think anyone will call Jon as Aegon. I think that it will be mentioned in the same way. That he is the son of Rhaegar and his name was Aegon. Very few will know and everyone who does will keep calling him Jon. So no much confusing there.

@@jedimasters1462 The Faegon storyline wasn't included to the show but Rhaegar and Elia's son Aegon is still mentioned in the earlier episodes.

Daenerys is Rhaenyra's 6xGreat Granddaughter Rhaenyra Viserys II (son) Aegon IV (grandson) Daeron II (great-grandson) Maekar I (2xgreat-grandson) Aegon V (3xgreat-grandson) Jaehaerys II (4xgreat-grandson) Aerys II (5xgreat-grandson) Daenerys I (6xgreat-granddaughter)

It’s crazy how unlucky the Targaryen’s are with offspring

Except they keep marrying their sisters and nieces. Not only does this create a lot of genetic issues in terms of stillborns, miscarriages, and unhealthy children, it also limits the descendants, because you don't have two of your children creating two new branches in a pyramid style expansion, they marry each other and the line keeps converging back.

@@laurendearnley9595 true, but that is quite important for the power dynamic in Westeros because Targaryen blood makes you special with being able to tame dragons

And Jaehaerys II

@@charlesdugay--leyoudec8712 technically yes, but in the series master Aemon reveals that Aerys II was the son of Aegon V and not Jaehaerys II

@@matteovaldini9356 ah yeah, sorry I used books family, I forgot about this

@@matteovaldini9356 It was a mistake but Jaehearys II is still king even in the show

@@iangallagher5448 that I remember he was never mentioned in the series

If you look closely, every time a Targaryen married a woman with no white hair, the first born child has the mother hair and the rest has the father. Like Baelor Breakspear, son of Daeron II and Myriah Martell. Duncan, son of Aegon V and Betha Blackwood. Rhaenys, daughter of Rhaegar and Elia Martell. And Jon, son of Rhaeghar and Lyanna.

@@joshheirmann7455 Daeron son of Maekar as well.

It's pronounced ay-knees lol

even starks and lannisters have been involved in incest. ned stark's parents were cousins so were tywin and joanna. then there is that time when two of cregan stark's(he is going to appear later on in the house of the dragon show) son married their neices.

@@arunsingla3452 is marrying cousin considered as incest? Even in modern days, law allows marry your cousin in somany countries..younger generation doesn't prefer that. So number of such marriage decreased now a days.... But still it's happening.. ( not a English native speaker)

@@loveyourlife5513 first cousins are not allowed to marry

@@bibbiana4Lyfe it is allowed in many countries my parents are 1st cousin

Well, it was passed from heir to heir, so it would've went from the Mad King to Rhaegar, both who died during Robert's Rebellion, so the significance of the dagger would've been lost, only it's value as a Valyrian weapon kept it changing hands among the wealthy. We could make the assumption that Jaime took it from the Mad King directly and gifted it to Tyrion at some point, and then we know the rest of the journey.

It's kinda obvious how they lost it. It was passed from king to heir, and Rhaegar was the last heir before Targaryen's fall (meaning the last one to know about Aegon's prophecy) and he couldn't live long enough to tell this to his own heir.

@@ba-cl8ji I don't see that dagger on Rhaegar in the 'Wedding' scene that Brandon Stark saw. Just because he was passed the 'Prophecy' doesn't mean he got the dagger.

I think that prophecy probably got lost when Rhaenyra got eaten by Aegons dragon Sunfyre. She might have passed it on to her older sons but they all died as well.

@@aileenma7518 She married her Uncle and gave him two sons, both later sat on the Iron Throne. (Aegon III & Viserys II) Her olders son did die in the War but they were the children of her first marriage to Laenor Velaryon.

No he was grand uncle to the mad king.

@@sanitizerwilson1599 they didn't mention him

Why does aemon targaryen in GOT when he was dying kept saying "Egg"?

@@thedigitalsight6010 Egg was Aegon the 5ths nickname and Aemon's younger brother.

The show removed Jaehaerys II from the lineage shown in books, and presented Aegon V (egg) as the father of Aerys II (mad king).

There are other Targaryens in the female line too, though Robert Baratheon is the closest legitimate relative to Jon and Dany at the time of Game of Thrones (which would apply to any legitimate or legitimized children of Robert). Jon, Dany, Viserys, and the Baratheon Brothers are the only living legitimate descendants of Aegon V at the start of Game of Thrones. They are descended from Aegon V, but Aegon V's sisters had children and descendants and he also had a fraternal niece and nephew (who was passed for the crown because his father was a psychopath). Of course if you start counting Bastards, it gets out of control. (I know Gendry was legitimized in the show and the Blackfyres in the books, so they are different from the other bastards.) Anyway, there are other descendants of Rhaenyra and Daemon, including all of House Martell (through Raenyra's Great-grandaughter).

The Velaryons in GoT are also decendants of Targaryens. So Targs are not that uncommon really.

Yeap and Daemon his 9th.

The Dance of Dragons, the first, third and fourth Blackfyre Rebellions, the Conquest, Maegor's reign, Daeron's campaigns in Dorne and the War of the Nine-Penny Kings are all far more interesting stories. If they do Robert's Rebellion it should be as flashbacks in the inevitable Game of Thrones remake.

Well the white hair is def a defect but in the story the Thargaryen family is connected with the gods so they can incest without a problem and as we see it's totally normal for them.

The inherent madness is a trait of incest also.

I believe Vicerys has hemophilia as seen in the HOTD series. Still though.

@@EverlastingTorr What madness? There's a total of three mad Targaryens. I'm ruling out Maegor the Cruel because he was just evil. I'm ruling out Baelor the Blessed because he was a religious extremist. Some people call Viserys mad, but he's just a fool. That leaves Rhaegel, Aerion Brightflame and Aerys II. The mad Targaryens are a myth created by the show.

@@jjm0537 Show Viserys have leprecy. That's why he's falling apart.

Oh, come on, what do you expect the Lannisters to be defeated and imprisoned and Daenerys Jon Snow to get married and it all ends well and joy and laughter, so that's how it's going to be ridiculous, and that after Daenerys becomes queen, everyone finally realizes that Jon Snow is a Targaryen, this may spark a home war between Jon Snow and Daenerys' children or grandchildren.

@@rahimrahimi15 How is set-up for future stories a bad thing? Also, the show was always going to be more simplified than the books. They should have just went with it.

If Saera's branch still exists there's nothing left of the Targaryens in it. The Blackfyre branch is pretty much extinct. The male line, anyway. We don't know what happened to Maegor Brightflame. If he had children his line might still be around. But that's about it.

I think it’s more because they married and had kids young. But yes, a lot died young too

Excellent question!

He becomes king and his two sons also become kings ,but they don't have any heir ,so logically it passed to Viserys II, Viserys II served as hand for Aegon III and his two nephews before he was king.

The dynasty continued with a miracle since somehow viserys 2 make it alive from the dance of dragons

The Blackfyres are descended from Daemon Blackfyre, who's the first of Aegon IV's great bastards. They're descended from Viserys II, not Aegon III.

No. HotD would be 3-4 seasons explaing the Dance of Dragons aka Rhaenyra vs Aegon.

I really hope they don't ruin this like GOT SEASON 8 disaster did

That is not what the 4 seasons are for and there wouldn't be enough seasons to go that far. Season 1 was from the great council where Viserys was chosen as heir and mostly showed his reign as king and the events leading up to the dance of the dragons. The next season's will all take place during the dance of the dragons. Season 1 had many time jumps but they're over now. The 4th season will be when the war ends. The show is using material from a book called Fire and Blood. The book is big and covers the reigns of Aegon I - Aegon III and there is a part 2 planned to cover the other Targaryen kings. GRRM is still writing The Winds of Winter and needs to get that done first and then he said he will write more Dunk and Egg stories and A Dream of Spring. So I don't know when Fire and Blood part 2 will be done but it can wait as ASOIAF is more important and that's his main focus right now. He has been busy with TWOW and has 25% of it left to finish writing.

@@drw_predator Unlike Benioff and Weiss Ryan Condall is actually competent and he understands the source material.

Cool. We'll keep that in mind and make the transitions a little smoother. Thank you for your honest feedback!

I’m sorry but anything post s8 is stupid to me. One of the reasons s8 was atrocious was because you had two guys being lazy flying by the seat of their pants coming up with a script that was based on no source material. So the things that made GOT popular in storytelling effort, detail and anticipation of viewers was totally destroyed. Let’s put this way I have no faith in Snow.

@@sarahjames927 do not be disheartened by incompetence of the last writers, GRR Martin is still alive and "Snow" can find redemption by the hands of the greatest storyteller of our time, given a chance..

Daenarys still alive with her 3 dragons what are you talking about?

@@tariizm1500 yes & I am Tom Cruise! Lol. 😂😂

@@michaelcortez6596 you think i am joking? she is in last book 16 years old queen of Meereen her nephew Aegon (Jon's big brother) with 10k soldier landed in Westeros he is nowadays planning take over Stormlands... btw Dany conquered Astapor, Yunkai and Meereen at the age of 14. that stupid show called GOT isnt canon...

Reasonable

Aegon will not be Jon's name in the books. Its absolutely stupid

That doesn't change the fact that it's stupid.

I would agree that they’re not the same as the rest of us. It is believed that they inbreed so that they won’t lose their magic to control dragons, but those inbreedings surely have its tolls. To quote some characters from GoT, „Every time a Targaryen is born, the Gods flip a coin.“ He/She will either become a good ruler or mad, and in Dany‘s case, we knew on which side the coin landed.

Ned parents were cousins

@@Cream-2128 .you're right. Tywin Lannister's wife was also his cousin BUT marrying cousins weren't considered incest in the middle ages (or even today in some cultures)

@@ba-cl8ji It's not considered as incest in India too.

@@alexisleander477 actually the Targaryens begone unstable in Mind when they Lose there Dragons and started feeling Vulnerable unlike when they still have those Beast.

They explained it wrong. Rhaegar and Elia indeed had a son named Aegon, but he was killed at the end of Robert's Rebellion. The show didn't include Young Griff (young boy with dyed blue hair) but in the books, he is claimed to be Aegon Targaryen (Rhaegar&Elia's son who is presumed dead) but he's most likely a Blackfyre (a legitimized bastard line of the Targaryens). Jon Snow was the second son of Rhaegar whose name is also Aegon (his true name is still unknown in the books but some believe it's Aegon in the books too) and his mother is Lyanna.

HOW! it's a fucking prequel, set nearly two hundred years before daenerys is even born