Thanks for keeping it B.C. & A.D.

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In truth we are never not thinking of Rome. 😂

Being from an old Roman family, Rome is the life.

I know, right?

What part of Sicilia is Rome in?

Ohhh. Northern New Jersey. Figures.

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You gotta ask the Jews why they chose to do that

Not to mention Gaius and Marius and the Gracchi brothers.

You are the one ignoring media about pre-Caesar Rome. There is significant print and visual media about pre-Caesar Rome, apparently you just aren’t looking for it. Sounds like you just discovered Rome and have not even slightly looked into anything beyond the most popular media depictions. Try looking into books and academic material instead of TV shows and movies (though even within that media there is still plenty of material you clearly have not found)

@@HistoriaMoneta There are truly some productions about pre-Caesar Rome, but most of them are 60's B-list peplum. As much, the highest productions about that Era are the BBC docu-movies about Hannibal and the Gacci Brothers

Whats the podcast please?

Roman monarchy and republic: did he just say empire?

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When this joke got popular I was neck deep in Chinese history videos/wiki but alas Rome pulls us all in like a black hole of stereotypes

This is so true. I love history now,but, in college and high school I hated it and I think it was the delivery of the information from the schools. If we had content like this in school I may have chose a totally different career path.

No doubt.

The problem with history in school is that there's a huge amount of content and an hour, maybe two hours a week in which to teach it. Use an hour to talk in depth about, say, the hows and whys of Caesar's Civil War and that might mean that you won't have time to address Octavian Augustus and his Civil War other than in passing. Or you go in depth with both and more and by the end of the school year you'll only be at the Hundred Years War instead of the Fall of Constantinopole.

A high school teacher will have about 25 hours to get from Samaria to the Middle Ages , include China, Egypt, etc in those hours.

Lead a horse to a trough...and all that

It’s conspicuous that Latins and Etruscans are so culturally distinct yet so geographically close-and of course chronologically overlapped. One culture seems to have been historically expunged by the other-that is, by the succeeding one: Latin. But history is the younger cousin of myth and both are distant descendants of what actually happened. Mythology reveals storytelling habits where some circumstance that might or might not have actually happened is explained by a tale about an origin of some ethos symbolically represented by characters convenient to the meaning of the story-or mythos-thence referred to for moral, legal, and religious guidance. Characters are cast to fit the plot, protagonists, antagonists, and other carriers of the plot probably composites of actual participants in real events, and conveniently endowed with characteristic strengths or weaknesses. Ancient Greek philosopher, Euhemeros, posited that all mythoi originate with actual events which are subsequently reworked in retelling to arrive at the moral of the story-that is, its essential jurisprudence: human participants in real events becoming recomposed as individual heroes, demigods or gods in a mythologizing process called “euhemerism”. Euhemeros’ philosophy was considered heretical by the polytheists of his day. I think that whenever the intercourse between two cultures needs to be mythologized, the mythologizers always take the path of least resistance towards the moral of the story-which is naturally biased in favour of the storytellers’ culture, which, in the case of genocide or subjection of one side against the other, leads to a history written by the victors in which the vanquished are cast in a demeaning or demonizing way in order to justify the conquest-and thence to justify the conquerers’ order. These mythoi can be elaborate and entertaining (the Trojan War), brusque and to-the-point (captive savages, barbarians, and enemies are justly enslaved), or suppressing (The Book of Genesis) Genesis conspicuously ignores or only hints at the inter-breedable humans available for Cain and Seth to marry. Ineed, its general thesis ignores the evolutionary descent of Homo sapiens altogether. This narratological tactic of severing certain past events-or whole epochs of time-absolves the aggressors. In the Americas, European Christians sought to diminutize indigenous cultural and political legitimacy, first demonizing indigenous nations not-allied with the colonizers, then dismissing all indigenous peoples and their histories in order to justify seizing their lands as “terra nullius”, or “uninhabited”. Finally governments authorized the ‘killing of the Indian in the child’ by forced attendance at Indian Residential Schools. I think the Etrustcans-who were probably more civilized than indigenous Italic tribes-were narratolgically expunged from Latin mythologization rather than cast as a vanquished and subjected or enslaved foe. Romans ended up preferring a completely concocted and plagiarized Greek myth instead of an historicized Etruscan one-despite the remoteness of the former in time and place and the concurrent co-existence of the latter.

@@geoffreydonaldson2984 I wish for you to speak more often, friend.

Damn right!

You are so deep !

It brings also more money than the shorter single ones.

I really like both. I'm hoping they can continue with the individual "voices of the past" videos with a few of these long format history lessons sprinkled in.

But those are Two different regions. So they can't both be the homeland

But did it really fall though? I postulate that it has simply amalgamated into a new form. Similar to how we retain Neanderthal DNA. Just like Greece amalgamated into Rome. Greece from Persia. Persia from Babylon.

It ​fell as a political entity in 1453 bc. Until then it just shifted forms through internal revolutions or wars. @@grandsonofman

@@Orca_mammal I would argue that it "seemed" to have fallen in 1798, but it's been rejuvenating ever since 1929.

good point.

Wilusa was north of Arzawa.

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The vid finishes in 374 BC

@@VoicesofthePast skipped over isn’t the right word, what I mean to say is end before teaching them. It’s almost as if you don’t want to make a four hour video smh

there's an important aspect of this question that I don't see addressed in the comments, and that's the idea of Homer as persona. Homer the historical person may or may not have been real -- probably not -- but Homer the persona definitely was real. And Homer the persona was blind.

@@eshanroveran7850 And the SOURCE MATERIAL for this "Homer the persona" being blind... is... erm, what ?

@@TomasFunes-rt8rd it literally does not matter, the people OF THE TIME believed him to be blind, that is the traditional consensus. Not a modern one.

@@eshanroveran7850 It literally DOES matter - evidence is a good thing, in the study of history, NOT some obstacle. And all the evidence suggests that the people who believed him to be blind had merely fallen for an all-too-easy reading too much into a chance line in the Odyssey.

Cincinnattus is very likely just a mythological figure and did not actually exist in history

@@HistoriaMoneta you might know more about him than I do but I hope not

He does seem a lot like a mythological hero tho