How digital clocks affect sound quality

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Paul McGowan, PS Audio

Paul McGowan, PS Audio

Күн бұрын

How much do the clocking systems in digital audio affect sound quality? Paul answers this sometimes technical question as simply as he can. Have a question you want to ask Paul? www.psaudio.com/ask-paul/
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@pauldemara7633
@pauldemara7633 5 жыл бұрын
Most interesting discussion. "Clock jitter" kind of reminds me of "wow and flutter" in the analogue world.
@user-od9iz9cv1w
@user-od9iz9cv1w 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting, but I think you glossed over the actual question. What impact does the clock have on the sound? It is major. A low jitter clock signal to the DAC chip results in substantial improvement in imaging, accuracy, natural tonal quality, slam and perceived extension in bass and treble. If you want a DAC to sound like a good analogue source, a great clock is essential.
@Morgooooo
@Morgooooo 5 жыл бұрын
Your passion and joy for that mixer is uplifting! Just like a child. This is the proof that the soul doesn't get old.
@silentdrive3243
@silentdrive3243 5 жыл бұрын
As a musician that's been screwed over well more than a handful of times... it's a fantastic thing that you doing for the musicians out there. With the label. I definitely salute you for that!
@Projacked1
@Projacked1 5 жыл бұрын
Paul sounds like Bob Ross when he talks about sexy gear ; 'Today....We are painting happy little consoles' ....lol
@DarenLee
@DarenLee 11 ай бұрын
Hi I from Asia (Malaysia if you know ;) ), I really enjoy your content very much it very genuine, I been watching audio stuff from mostly KZfaq influencers of music/audio enthusiast. Hope to see more of your videos. Btw, I watch mostly digital audio stuff and chi-if IEMs and DACs and stuff.
@cesaresaladandthespicycrou4080
@cesaresaladandthespicycrou4080 5 жыл бұрын
I started watching these videos to learn more about PA stuff and I stuck around because I find it fascinating. But I am very interested in your recording stuff
@brandonburr4900
@brandonburr4900 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Paul. Had a couple questions on the struder mixing console!. Any plans on making videos devoted to rebuilding or showing the insides and what all you guys plan to upgrade and change inside? I have never seen inside a mixing console (especially one this famous) and I'm sure many other would love it! This is a silly question but you plan to keep it all analog and keep its original sound intact? As much as folks don't wanna hear this, I'm sure that, like everything else has a special sound of its own😀 thank you Paul for taking us all on your tangents!
@walterstorm9221
@walterstorm9221 5 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to Octave Records!!!
@RealHIFIHelp
@RealHIFIHelp 4 жыл бұрын
I want to know why companies are not using external clocks like Gustard u16 with improved LPSU's? I was totally blown away when I heard how much this improves the timing/harsness/detail. And believe it or not, it sounded more natural. I simply don't get it why all manufactors still have a built in clock in their devices. To me it makes sense to separate it from everything else, as long as you do it on a high level. I think that this one thing is the very future where we will see a lot of improvement in HIFI going forward.
@colinowenuk
@colinowenuk 5 жыл бұрын
What are you going to change in the mixer?
@DrivetoBlue
@DrivetoBlue 5 жыл бұрын
Great name for the new label
@thegrimyeaper
@thegrimyeaper 5 жыл бұрын
Paul knows his stuff.
@GustoTheGamer
@GustoTheGamer 5 жыл бұрын
Nice mixer paul😎
@JEG6919
@JEG6919 5 жыл бұрын
The best ones are made of pure platinum. Sound quality to die for.
@tims244
@tims244 5 жыл бұрын
I am not a musician, but I would love to learn how to record audiophile recordings. Especially dsd. Thanks Paul!
@Paulmcgowanpsaudio
@Paulmcgowanpsaudio 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Tim. I'll do my best to help further your understanding.
@russredfern167
@russredfern167 5 жыл бұрын
You mean 40 channel? I don't see that many meters unless they are being shared.
@mag-wp6yt
@mag-wp6yt 5 жыл бұрын
Was this exact video not uploaded before, about a month ago?
@LordMarlle
@LordMarlle 5 жыл бұрын
It was. What happened?
@jfoldger1184
@jfoldger1184 5 жыл бұрын
Either yes or you're feeling de ja vu
@randomgeocacher
@randomgeocacher 5 жыл бұрын
I would *guess* that the derived clock option was a synchronized clock derive in RTL logic instead of an PLL. Not at all obvious why vendor would offer two options that’s almost the same thing though.
@user-od9iz9cv1w
@user-od9iz9cv1w 4 жыл бұрын
And both crap... but that's why so many DACs sound so mediocre
@steveaustin7306
@steveaustin7306 5 жыл бұрын
I use a device that goes into my dac that i plug the coax spdif that reclocks the signal from a pc. Huge improvement in detail. All the best with Octave!
@ibjamnndazone1255
@ibjamnndazone1255 5 жыл бұрын
To quote Neil Young "singing words, words between the lines of age".
@andershammer9307
@andershammer9307 5 жыл бұрын
Once you finish modifying that console you should take the analog output to your amplifiers driving a cutting lathe to make a direct to disc LP. Right now i'm not interested in anything digital until someone proves to me its better.
@avsystem3142
@avsystem3142 2 жыл бұрын
From Wikipedia: "The Nyquist-Shannon sampling theorem is a theorem in the field of signal processing which serves as a fundamental bridge between continuous-time signals and discrete-time signals. It establishes a sufficient condition for a sample rate that permits a discrete sequence of samples to capture all the information from a continuous-time signal of finite bandwidth." "Strictly speaking, the theorem only applies to a class of mathematical functions having a Fourier transform that is zero outside of a finite region of frequencies. Intuitively we expect that when one reduces a continuous function to a discrete sequence and interpolates back to a continuous function, the fidelity of the result depends on the density (or sample rate) of the original samples. The sampling theorem introduces the concept of a sample rate that is sufficient for perfect fidelity for the class of functions that are band-limited to a given bandwidth, such that no actual information is lost in the sampling process. It expresses the sufficient sample rate in terms of the bandwidth for the class of functions. The theorem also leads to a formula for perfectly reconstructing the original continuous-time function from the samples." I.e., it has been proven mathematically that there is a digital sample rate that will allow PERFECT reproduction of the input signal (in theory, a sample rate that is twice the highest frequency you wish to capture). No analog recording/playback method can provide such perfect reproduction. Note: "allow", the Nyquist-Shannon sampling theorem is an abstract proof, the actual electronic implementation of A/D and D/A converters affects the result. Also, while a digital recording may perfectly capture the input that doesn't mean that it will sound good. GIGO (Garbage In Garbage Out) still applies.
@andershammer9307
@andershammer9307 2 жыл бұрын
@@avsystem3142 I once played with a DAT machine and no matter what the sampling rate the playback after recording some records had swishy highs. cymbals sounded like a swarm of bees.
@avsystem3142
@avsystem3142 2 жыл бұрын
@@andershammer9307 The DAT machine was not the weak link in that scheme.
@andershammer9307
@andershammer9307 2 жыл бұрын
@@avsystem3142 Sounded great recording on my Tandberg TD20A reel to reel. Closer to the source then the Dat machine was. Weak link or not, it colored the sound in a way I didn't like.
@avsystem3142
@avsystem3142 2 жыл бұрын
@@andershammer9307 A more likely explanation is that the tape recorder colored the sound in a way that you liked and the DAT did'n't add any "coloration" to your satisfaction. BTW, DAT technology has been obsolete for decades.
@LincolnRon
@LincolnRon 5 жыл бұрын
This video is proof that marketing lingo for consumers can be so meaningless that even someone who understands what is going on can't figure out what the company is actually saying.
@Paulmcgowanpsaudio
@Paulmcgowanpsaudio 5 жыл бұрын
Sorry you're struggling to understand. You can always reach out to me via email and I can try and help.
@LincolnRon
@LincolnRon 5 жыл бұрын
@@Paulmcgowanpsaudio I was referring to how often in the video you stated you weren't sure what exactly the the product was saying and assumed what they meant.
@Paulmcgowanpsaudio
@Paulmcgowanpsaudio 5 жыл бұрын
@@LincolnRon Doh! Thanks for the update.
@endrizo
@endrizo 5 жыл бұрын
Exellent and ultra cool studer recording console but isnt it too old and obsolete for your purposes?
@ped-away-g1396
@ped-away-g1396 5 жыл бұрын
yeah that's what i think, not only used but also bloody ancient. i was like are you sure you're gonna use that rickety bloody ancient tech? really? it'd be understandable to keep it as a collectible but using it? ehhhhh
@chipsnmydip
@chipsnmydip 5 жыл бұрын
The most sought after analog recording consoles are virtually all from the 70s (Neve, API, Trident, Quad Eight). There are high end analog consoles built from the 80s to 00s from SSL and the Neve 88R, but these generally have less vibe and are used for heavily processed music (also more expensive and harder to repair because surface mount chips).
@Audiojunkabus
@Audiojunkabus 5 жыл бұрын
that is your opinion... not fact (that DSD is best).. stats on paper do not always equal the human experience due to having a BRAIN.
@seagoat651
@seagoat651 5 жыл бұрын
Why are there no cup holders on that console? lol
@progressiveguy9959
@progressiveguy9959 5 жыл бұрын
First time I am first to comment on any You Tube video.
@thegrimyeaper
@thegrimyeaper 5 жыл бұрын
There's a comment one minute before yours. So keep trying!
@InsideOfMyOwnMind
@InsideOfMyOwnMind 5 жыл бұрын
@@thegrimyeaper we must have a clock error because it looks to me the other way around.😀
@Scottlp2
@Scottlp2 4 жыл бұрын
Anyone remember Enid Lumley? Oh wait, he didn't mean that clock.
@andershammer9307
@andershammer9307 2 жыл бұрын
I remember she put a soup bowl under her Audio Research preamp to improve sound. I have an Audio Research preamp that I modifed and I don't think it would benefit from that.
@TheBodhisattvaWisdom
@TheBodhisattvaWisdom 5 жыл бұрын
Come on, ofcourse you can lift it.
@rockman22
@rockman22 5 жыл бұрын
I learned nothing
@googoo-gjoob
@googoo-gjoob 5 жыл бұрын
"great music"...translated....anything other than Neil Young
@kevinroach9380
@kevinroach9380 5 жыл бұрын
As consumers we have been sold this bill of goods of how great digital is. We take analog music convert it to digital then back to analog at the speakers. Now tell me where the greatness is in this. Seems to me we keep everything analog and true to it's original form. You see Paul purchased a analog mixing board!
@Enemji
@Enemji 5 жыл бұрын
Kevin Roach - Storage, Transportability and ability to not have signal degradation over time and number of plays is what is the selling point. I am sorry you were met with some srupid saleman.
@ProjectOverseer
@ProjectOverseer 5 жыл бұрын
I think Paul said that digital modules are being added to this desk. Mine has a choice of analogue, high end PCM, and DSD with superb class A mic preamps 🎼🎶🎵
@ped-away-g1396
@ped-away-g1396 5 жыл бұрын
there's nothing special about analog. it's just that feeling of something solid in your hand.
@ProjectOverseer
@ProjectOverseer 5 жыл бұрын
@@ped-away-g1396 okie dokie 😂
@kevinroach9380
@kevinroach9380 5 жыл бұрын
@@Enemji no it's logical that in all of the converting, what are you losing, sound quality! Go ahead and believe all the BS hype because that is all it is. Just like a $10,000 filtering system for your 120v actually into your amp and the stupid expensive speaker cables. You got that kind of crazy money to spend, help the less fortunate that the rich has ripped off the middle class and poor!
Why is analog easier to preserve than digital?
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