HOW DISNEY RETCONED THE TIE DEFENDER (STAR WARS TALES OF THE EMPIRE)

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SirCatnapTheThird

SirCatnapTheThird

Ай бұрын

in this video I am going to rant about the fuck Disney does not give about lore that people made and spent time coming up with. this deeply angered me and now you have to hear about it to!!!!!!!
#starwars #badbatch #thebadbatch #badbatchseason3 #legostarwars #talesoftheempire #talesofthejedi #talesofthejediseason2

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@shoyahaaruni
@shoyahaaruni 29 күн бұрын
They've been making it clear with their shows that they dont want you to read the books. They dont like books because they have cool ideas that they want to use but want to do it in their own way. Thats what they did to eu and now they are doing it to their own stuff
@grahamfloyd3451
@grahamfloyd3451 28 күн бұрын
lol wut
@AmericanUnionState1824
@AmericanUnionState1824 29 күн бұрын
I'm sick with Disney retconning the lore of Star Wars.
@collina5673
@collina5673 29 күн бұрын
Character who originates from a coven of magic space witches that use laser bow and arrows: “Yeah so, here’s my design for Star fighter I hope you like”
@derkaiser9881
@derkaiser9881 29 күн бұрын
Tales of the Empire was a huge let down. I don't and will never give a damn about Morgan Elsbeth. It's just more slop and I was really hoping that wouldn't be the case.
@ultrabrian8151
@ultrabrian8151 29 күн бұрын
It wasn’t a let down bro, you’re just hating
@derkaiser9881
@derkaiser9881 29 күн бұрын
@@ultrabrian8151 SPOILER! Sorry, but Morgan Elsbeth isn't an interesting character and they killed the potential Bariss could've had. She would've been a far more interesting character if they didn't choose to go with the basic ass Filoni slop redemption arc.
@notjohnkididk
@notjohnkididk 28 күн бұрын
@@ultrabrian8151 nah, morgan elsbeth is just a mid character.
@grahamfloyd3451
@grahamfloyd3451 28 күн бұрын
@@notjohnkididk not much of an argument, most Star Wars characters are mid. Leia - mid, C3PO - mid, every Empire character aside from Tarkin and Thrawn - mid. It's okay to have shows centered on this mid characters.
@mysticwraith6667
@mysticwraith6667 23 күн бұрын
​@ultrabrian8151 Sorry but how was it good? The trailer straight up lied about Vader and Grievous making us thing they were having episodes but NOPE they were just there so it would get more views Barris made no sense she went from bombing the jedi temple killing innocents just to prove a point, killing her friend no problem to suddenly caring about the jedi and being a good guy again what was the point of the whole inquisitor thing if she just left straight away?
@Mr-Sinister
@Mr-Sinister 29 күн бұрын
Morgan Elsbeth is one of the few characters from Filoniverse that I hated from the start. Now she came up with TIE Defender? Ugh..
@Unchainedmaple888
@Unchainedmaple888 28 күн бұрын
Girlboss is smarter than the entire Engineering + manufacturing firm Sienar Fleet Systems /s These Filoni fanfic fever dreams are getting out of hand
@trevturp6891
@trevturp6891 5 күн бұрын
Why do you hate Morgan Elsbeth?
@Mr-Sinister
@Mr-Sinister 5 күн бұрын
@@trevturp6891 Her introduction to canon as Nightsister is a joke. Before only Zabraks were Nightsisters, but she is a mere human. YET another human, which is boring. They couldn't come up with a real Nightsister like Merrin, Talzin, Ventress, Karis, Naa'leth (who are all female Dathomirian Zabraks by the way according to new canon).
@AlphaAurora
@AlphaAurora 29 күн бұрын
lolwut? They are retconning Rebels already???? Aren't all these shows done with Filoni in somewhere? Now that I think of it....if Morgan Elsbeth is behind the Defender, why is the factory on Lothal and not Corellia? Why would they care that much about funding then, if this is a pet project sponsored by an Industrialist? Also, why is Morgan an Industrialist? Did the Nightsisters establish some Trust Fund somewhere?
@trevturp6891
@trevturp6891 5 күн бұрын
How is this show retconning Rebels?
@AlphaAurora
@AlphaAurora 4 күн бұрын
@@trevturp6891 Morgan's now the genius behind the TIE Defender, but somehow isn't tied to it whatsoever in Rebels
@alessiocapone9816
@alessiocapone9816 20 күн бұрын
I think You are all forgetting one thing: Morgan Elsbeth manufactures starships and extracts raw minerals. Therefor, it makes sense that her company, not Morgan herself, by the way, designed this mutiple-role starfighter. Thrawn just pushed the model from the design phase into the prototype stage. Using His increasingly higher rank to do so. He goes from Admiral when He and Morgan first meet, to a Fleet Admiral and, lastly, recieves his Grand Admiral promotion from Emperor Palpatine himself.
@SirCatnapTheThird
@SirCatnapTheThird 20 күн бұрын
but her company in lore did not even design it, sienar fleet systems did with thrawns help
@SirCatnapTheThird
@SirCatnapTheThird 20 күн бұрын
also pellion did not ever meet thrawn untill he was a grand admiral
@alessiocapone9816
@alessiocapone9816 19 күн бұрын
@@SirCatnapTheThird This could have been a co-operation effort between the two companies. Also Pellaeon could have simply been transfered to the Third Fleet inbetween the events of "Thrawn: Treason" and the episode. In the book it is never stated that the two knew each other from past experiences.
@SirCatnapTheThird
@SirCatnapTheThird 19 күн бұрын
@@alessiocapone9816 but what I am saying is that we know for a fact that thrawn pitched the idea for a new fighter to taken who allowed him to meet with sienar fleet systems to design the fighter. And even if Sienar fleet systems met with morgan's company to design it which they did not thrawn would have already knew about her assistance and the show presented it like he has just discovered the fighter for the first time
@alessiocapone9816
@alessiocapone9816 19 күн бұрын
@@SirCatnapTheThird In a Wookieepedia article on the subject, it says that Thrawn did what You said when He remembered meeting with Morgan years earlier and her failed proposal of what would eventually become the Twin Ion Engine"Defender", multiple-role Starfighter. It wasn't even named as a Defender then: it was still in the early design stages and did not pass Moff Isdain's short-sighted judgement. In conclusion: Thrawn mearly succeded in getting Sienar Fleet Systems to begin considering mass production.
@pablogr6960
@pablogr6960 28 күн бұрын
thats not quite sure, its not confirmed that she engineered the defender, it was probably the intent, but there waysto jsutify the presentation without it but yeah, classic filonni stuff, morgan's part was pure garbage
@SirCatnapTheThird
@SirCatnapTheThird 24 күн бұрын
Well the StarWars.com summery of the episode did say she made it but I agree with you about everything.
@UnluckyCantaloupe4
@UnluckyCantaloupe4 29 күн бұрын
Damn girl, you got that ancient battlefront 2 gameplay 🤣
@devinbae9914
@devinbae9914 29 күн бұрын
Darn that's really unfortunate. I agree I love both the old and new Thrawn books and I think Timothy Zahn is an amazing writer. Perhaps the production of Tales of the Empire was rushed (although it seems a little out of style for Dave Filoni to let something like this slide, then again he did work on the whole new sequel trilogy so) but yea. In my experience, with Disney its either a hit or miss tbh, at least the graphics were really good and the story was semi-interesting.
@SirCatnapTheThird
@SirCatnapTheThird 24 күн бұрын
yeah I agree
@HolyknightVader999
@HolyknightVader999 27 күн бұрын
Was it not Grand Admiral Demetrius Zaarin who created the Defender?
@insertcognomen
@insertcognomen 27 күн бұрын
i thought he just made the tie advanced
@HolyknightVader999
@HolyknightVader999 27 күн бұрын
@@insertcognomen That was Darth Vader who designed the TIE Advanced.
@SirCatnapTheThird
@SirCatnapTheThird 24 күн бұрын
They ret-conned that after Disney took over and made it EU. Now in cannon Thrawn with the help of sienar fleet systems made the defender (until now that is).
@Gufupandi09th13
@Gufupandi09th13 29 күн бұрын
Can we talk about order 66 on Barriss offee POV
@FireStarShadow
@FireStarShadow 29 күн бұрын
I noticed too when I watched Tales of The Empire that yes they did change it to where Morgan Elizbeth designed the Tie Defender. The best way I think I can understand why they did the break is to make it simpler for people to draw the connections or at least that is my reasoning. While I am also a huge lore nerd on Star Wars and I am disappointed in Tales of The Empire to some degree with what they did with Bariss in the end, the show was a 6 out of 10 for me personally. Then yet again from my understanding this was made by Dave Filoni or at least he supervised it and problay had the final call on breaking the newer Thrawn Tribology since I've noticed a pattern with Disney trying to phase out book media from Star Wars first with the Ahoska Novel which in my opinion I am actually fine with that change and now this which I can see why people are upset about.
@Swarmah
@Swarmah 29 күн бұрын
baris got redeemed, but i would love her to succumb to dark side completely, but in other star wars media she wasnt there.
@UnluckyCantaloupe4
@UnluckyCantaloupe4 29 күн бұрын
Dave Felony sucks
@UnluckyCantaloupe4
@UnluckyCantaloupe4 29 күн бұрын
@Swarmah i wish we got the grand inquisitor's backstory, instead of him just being there already the exact same way he always is, he is such a weird character, like wasn't he supposed to have been inspired by Bariss ? Why is that never even mentioned? he doesn't have a real name
@Swarmah
@Swarmah 29 күн бұрын
@@UnluckyCantaloupe4 he had some kind of name, and he was temple guard, and yes, his story would be the best to chose here to show for them. But i guess they wanted to show bariss, which nobody asked for and whats her name , who nobody cares about.
@bellowingsilence
@bellowingsilence 29 күн бұрын
With the book and game media, Disney seems to be reverting to the old school (pre-Disney) philosophy of having a split between the *main* canon (the main movies and designated shows) and a separate EU for everything else. That EU could be taken from and referenced by the canon material, but the canon material could also contradict it and do something else, decanonizing whatever details it was overriding. It would be a little odd when the stories that had details disproven by new materials in canon were still *canon to* the EU, but people lived with it. The problem now is… they are basically operating under this model again while the audience is still operating under the “everything is canon” model they told us about. I mean, it’s almost inevitable that Filoni would operate this way if left to his own devices (he’s an EU fan, who also worked with George and adopted his model for dealing with the EU while making a canon show for him,) but they probably just shouldn’t have told us “everything is canon” in the first place and then we wouldn’t be having this conversation as much.
@GreenNinj4
@GreenNinj4 24 күн бұрын
Oh, so you‘re saying that Dave Filoni and Disney created another show that retcons a beloved comic/book and forces Daves OCs into the story… No way, thats only the like sixth time they did this😱. Srsly tho, why do yall still watch Disneys bs?
@SirCatnapTheThird
@SirCatnapTheThird 24 күн бұрын
I still watch Disney becuase I love star wars and always will and even if it is all crap things like Andor or bad batch give me hope.
@trevturp6891
@trevturp6891 5 күн бұрын
@@SirCatnapTheThird You hate Andor and The Bad Batch?
@SirCatnapTheThird
@SirCatnapTheThird 5 күн бұрын
@@trevturp6891 No I never said that, all I am saying is Disney have created alot of crap like ashoka or just retconned somthing people love
@kylohen
@kylohen Ай бұрын
great video, keep it up just work on your confidence speaking and enunciate
@ultrabrian8151
@ultrabrian8151 29 күн бұрын
Why you hating?
@SirCatnapTheThird
@SirCatnapTheThird 24 күн бұрын
Well Disney has been decannonizing many parts of beloved cannon books nowadays and they are replacing it with anything better in fact they almost always make it worse
@grahamfloyd3451
@grahamfloyd3451 28 күн бұрын
Sorry, but comics are NOT canon.
@OperatorSkillet
@OperatorSkillet 28 күн бұрын
We are talking about books that were specifically said to be canon.
@fatnakedjimmyneutron
@fatnakedjimmyneutron 27 күн бұрын
Lucasfilm considers the comics to be canon. They're on the timeline.
@SirCatnapTheThird
@SirCatnapTheThird 25 күн бұрын
books not comics
@youwantfrieswiththat2
@youwantfrieswiththat2 29 күн бұрын
It's not that they don't care. They're actively changing it (just enough) to avoid having to pay royalties. You should read up on how they did Alan Dean Foster with the ESB re-release. It's literally the same thing.
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