Okay so I've got comments from Finns that Finnish has just written/spoken language, because there are local variants dialects. This is true and the spoken language I used in this video is the spoken Finnish that I speak. The spoken language I use is not tied to a certain region (at least I don't have any distinctive characteristic in my tone/vocab). So it's safe to say that the language in this video is mostly used in southern parts of Finland and is somewhat "general" spoken language, but there definitely are other variants, which cannot be covered in one video.

We also often refer to people as "se = it" instead of "hän = he/she". Kind of weird but nothing unusual.

I think you should do more videos about the "Puhekieli vs kirjakieli".

Aleeeeeeksiiii !!!! Thanks for this video! Now I understand why I've seen different ways for Ordering coffee or stuff like that ! Wish you could do more videos like this, with grammar included without being boring as other videos that try to teach grammar but are just confusing !! Kiitos paljon !! 😊😊😊

But foreigners, speaking formal finnish to Finns will make you better understood. Unless you speak puhekieli like a boss!

Very helpful way to understand it!

🤧 I will never be able to master all this.....please teach us the spoken Finnish some more.

**slams head on desk**

I'm learning the standard language because there's a book that I want to read in Finnish. Guess it'll take quite a long time before I can read at a normal speed but as long as there's progress I'm fine with it. Meanwhile I'm trying to pick up colloquial words like "ollaan" or "yks" when necessary to make my speaking less bookish.

I’ve seen a couple videos on the difference between written/spoken Finnish, but this one is definitely the most helpful! Thanks Aleksi!

Miten jotkut jaksaa opiskella suomee

Thanks Aleksi ! Please, try to do more videos about learning casual finnish. Its very popular and usefull for us!

Awesome video! Continue, we need more educational videos like this video especially the difference between official language and slang.

this video is really helpful. thank you so much for making this and can't wait to see more :D

One thing you could've added is that there's technically no rules to spoken Finnish, and that it depends a lot on the dialect of the area. Many of the casual words you taught here would not be used in many parts of the country, but would be replaced by other versions. For example, spoken Finnish in the Eastern part of Finland is completely different to, say, the dialect in Northern Finland. And both would be very different to the dialects used in South-West Finland. Even if you're Finnish, sometimes all you need to do is travel 50km and you might already come across numerous casual words being used, that you're not aware of. So in actuality, it's not really a case of "Written Finnish vs. Spoken Finnish", but more a case of "Written Finnish vs. several Spoken Finnishes".

THIS KIND OF VIDEO I'VE BEEN SEARCHING YESTERDAY,dear god,it's my lucky day😂Thanks for making this video😄

Awsome, thanks, plase make more videos like these, examples help a lot, and also giving your opinion on whether to use an expression in a context or another helps thanks

Really useful video. Thank you so much😊

I learn Finnish (written one), but I'd like to use it one day in Finland (due to I really enjoy trips there). My question is - how can I learn spoken Finnish? I mean, I can't find it at any books, so is conversation with Finns the only way to learn it? :) By the way, I really enjoy your videos, they're sooo helpful to understand some finnish things. Greetings from Poland!

It's very useful to know this :) Kiitos Aleksi! :)

Aleksi, thank you very much for your interesting videos! I find them very useful! Greetings from Mexico City!

Komppaan edellista kaveria tost puhekieli vs kirjakieli, että lisää. mut pitäiskö ottaa murtei huamioo? Koska neki eroo suhteellise paljo 🤔😊

Olen oppinut 8,kuutta ja olen sekaisin vielä mutta kiitos sun suosittelaan ja neuvonta

This reminded me of the time when I started studying in Porvoo (I'm from Kotka, only 90km between us) and everyone in my class was from Porvoo area except for me and my friend. So one day a group of us were outside and I suggested that we should go to somewhere warm (=mennää jonnee lämpösee) and everyone was like wtf is jonnee??? And I swear me & my friend had never been so confused by their reactions 😂😂😂 they had never heard of that and that's the only way of saying I had ever known 🤦 Another great example was vinssaa/vinssata=pyöräillä=to bicycle.🤦 There are tons of other instances when these little differences in spoken language caused some confusion and amusement for us all, hahah! (But by the end of the three years of studying I had managed to make them use the word mie/miä instead of mä, hah! Small victories! 😎💪🏽)

very nice and smooth explanation! I really enjoyed watching this video. I am a new subscriber 😊

At the part "Could I have a cup of coffee?" I would personally even leave out all of the letter n and replace a in kahvia for another i. So I would say it "saisiks mä yhe kupi kahvii". For me personally at least that sound more casual.

Hello Aleksi! Hey, do you think you can talk about the informal numbers in Finnish? I already know how to count from 1 to 100 but sometimes when finns speak, they cut the numbers and I can't always understand them. Thanks a lot for all of your videos.

This is so helpful, thank you! Finnish is my favourite language and I would love to be able to speak it. But I have a few questions if that's okay: - I unintentionally use a combination of written and spoke Finnish. Is that a problem? Should I stick with just one? - How formal do I need to be? People say you don't to worry about formality but I also don't want to be rude. Should I use sinä or te for example? - What would you recommend for the Helsinki region? Kiitos!

When you're Finnish but need this gent to tell you it's totally fine not to get formal with peeps when on the phone. Kiitos, Aleksi Thyself. Helpotat elämääni.

If you're from Turku, you'd shorten it even more: "Saak mä yhe kaffen, kitti".

It would be helpful if Finnish language training providers provided more info on the colloquial / spoken language. I have the basics of the spoken language, and started studying the written language so I could read newspapers etc. But what really throws me in KZfaq channels is when people write their comments using the spoken language. It plays havok with translation software! So it takes a lot longer to parse written Finnish that's actually spoken Finnish which wasn't even taught in most classes or language books. I've only come across two language text books that focus on spoken Finnish, and even they provide limited help, with too few examples. So, Aleksi, maybe you can volunteer to put together more videos like this one, which provide both the written and spoken versions for comparison. Are there any KZfaq channels that specialise in teaching the spoken language that also provide written examples? If not, would you consider writing a book on the colloquial language? I find it really useful to have the written and spoken versions shown side by side. Maybe I'll take some written sentences and start translating them into the spoken versions. PS It could be worse. Several Asian languages have far more differences in their polite vs casual languages. One of them even has something like five degrees of politeness, requiring people to learn up to five different words for the same thing, and also having to learn which version is appropriate to use with whom.

Don't worry if you don't worry if you don't understand the rules.

www.kotus.fi/aineistot/puhutun_kielen_aineistot/murreaanitteita/suomen_murrekirjan_aanitteet On that page there are a lot of sound samples of different dialects from all over Finland. They are mostly spoken by old people so there are some words that aren't normally used these days(at least noticed few in the sample of my home town)

Thank you, the video was very helpful! Is it common, though, to abbreviate forms like 'minulle'? For example should I also say 'mulla' instead of 'minulla' or 'sulle' instead of 'sinulle'? 🤔

Same here. I remember see two of my friends(siblings), even write in their original dialect to family and between them. On the state runned channel nrk, have i seen some talk in dialect, but the most in nynorsk and bokmål( two writen forms here). Some word in norwegian might differ on the pronounce dipending on your location. Language are intresting, cus we do have a word in norwegian, which are pulk. Its a loan word from sami(puhlke/bulke) and finnish(pullka). Cool video, keep up the good work. I like it more when people call me by my first name, or its getting little too much. When you order a hot chocolade or coffe, its a high chance that they're say "skal bli"(skal = shal, bli = stay), which can translate to "in progress"

Hyvä video :D!

Can you point us to good sources for learning spoken Finnish, outside Finland?

I've been learning Finnish for precisely 1 day but in French (which i speak) the spoken language is very different in sound to what you would read from a sheet of paper out loud. The solution is to get a lot of *natural* *native* input. TV, radio, songs, interviews etc, if you can't find proper lessons or courses on that variety of the language.

Olen asunut Suomessa noin pari vuotta ja olen oppinut sulta monta sanaa, esimerkiksi how to use in finish Noni like a boss, ja kiitos kaikista

Personally I would never use 'mulle' or 'minulle' as the recipient is implied in the request. The cashier will not care to whom the coffee is for. Like in English you would never say 'one coffee please, for me'.

Those examples of spoken finnish are more "southern" that universal. Regional or local dialects (which are sometimes very strong) have a big influence in the way how people in different regions speak the general spoken finnish. People may mix lots of dialect words and expressions into the general spoken language, or ther may be just one letter here and there, or simply a different accent.

That's a really helpful and nice video. ☺ There's a typo error at 1:24 minute. "Don't worry if you don't worry if you don't understand the rules" Just letting you know 🙂

Agreed, but I haven´t heard informal term "rapsa" for report (raportti in Finnish)... Of course, I haven´t had to give reports to anyone for a long time, others report to me, and not very often.

I may be hair splitting here but "informal vs. standard" would better describe the difference. People tend to use the informal variants in writing as well, particularly on social media and in emails and text messages between friends and family. There is only one formal or standard variant of the language but the informal variants have considerable regional differences. Interestingly, the most persistent dialectical differences, that is, intonation and pronunciation, can be found in formal spoken language as well. For example, Jussi Halla-aho, a member of European Parliament, who has a PhD in linguistics and who always speaks perfect standard Finnish on television, has still retained clearly recognizable intonation and pronunciation patterns characteristic of his native city of Tampere..

Hi , do you have a site to learn Finnish

Hmm. Sanoisin ite, että ”voisinko” puhekielellä = ”voisinks”, kun taas ”voinks” on indikatiivi (voinko). Ja kuka sanoo ”tuon” eikä ”ton”? :D

"Yks (kuppi) kahvi(a), kiitos." :D Nice, informative video!

1:24 what does "don't worry if you don't worry if you don't undestand tha rules." mean?

Et sää voi sanoa että mikä on "puhekieltä" koska suomessa on paljon eri murteita eikä vaan yhtä puhekieltä

Viihdytyin hirveesti tästä, vaikka olen siis ihan suomenkielinen kantasuomalainen 😄 hyvä video! It's completely fine!!

Everyone can understand me in Finnish but I can't understand anyone 😑

Since I am a teen living in the capital city area, I use even more ”casual” ways of saying these. For example: ”saisinko yhden kahvin, kiitos” to ”saammä yhe kahvi, kiitti” Or ”Minä haluisin varata pöydän minulle ja ystävilleni” to ”mä varaisi pöydä mulle ja mu frendeil”

The reason why we don't use written Finnish is because it's an artificial language, made to standardise the vast amount of different dialects in one written tongue everyone can understand. Spoken Finnish is the real Finnish language.

How can we learn spoken finnish?

I don't know Aleksi, I think everyone should learn and speak a language in it's formal form and take ir from there because that way not only you'll be easily understood by the natives or locals but also they are going to speak un a formal way as well so they can make themselves understood easier

How do Finns chat on text, I'm guessing it should be normal to write as spoken when texting you friends

Hopefully everybody realizes that diglossia (two or more forms of language) is not a typical thing in Finnish only, but of every language (at least that I have heard or read of) from Arabic and Greek, to Latin, Swedish, English, French, German, though some Russians believe they are an exception, but it is not true, they are just ignorant. If you want to learn as good Finnish as Aleksi Himself speaks, do learn written Finnish to start with, and then modify it as you find your proper Finnish setting where you thrive. For example the same kind of passive forms are used in spoken French. On y va! It's very easy to learn how the pronouns and other frequent words are shortened in everyday speech, if you first learn the standard versions, there is a pattern to the changes, and then you know both and can understand all information given in Finnish. If you can't read Finnish in Finland you are really lost. In case you don't sound as a native speaker, but a bit formal, Finns will have much patience with you, because your problems with pronounciation will also show you are NOT a native anyways. You need to practice more on your y, ä, ö sounds, long and short sounds, and the diphtongues, than on casual speech. When you can make sentences that reflect what you mean, then you'll also want to be more fluent with using the main shortened forms. It's like in English - first you learn: "I am not going to give up". Then you hear sloppier language and learn to say: Aint gonna givvup, dude. Nothing special about such things. In English there are huge dictionaries for slang, in Finnish there are some - but their use is limited. In Finland people are so well educated that all understand standard Finnish and if they are interested in communicating with you as a newcomer, they can slow down and speak it, too. And they often will. They are mindful of that it took them some 9 years to reach their level of English, so they know something about struggling to learn a second language.

paras video aleksi himself menkää chekaa mun soul eater dub

Very informative, to me miles away from text or speech...

This is so intimidating.... i feel like ill never learn it x)

Miten sul on vaa 5 tuhatta tilaajaa? Löysin sut noin 2 minuuttii sitte ja oon jo addiktoitunu :D

there is nothing abnormal about that, actually I think most languages are like that...

Kiitos... Err, Kiiti.

Aleksi, do you teach Finnish off KZfaq i.e via Skype?

Many times I shorten "kiitos" to "-tos"

as a finnish/aussie i can speak a little finnish but i can not write it at all way too hard

Jees kiitti, en voi opiskella siitä kouluss

Ite käytän fraasia saisiks yhe kupi kahvia, kiitos?

hot tip for speaking finnish like a pro??? just,,, randomly dont say some letters!!!!!!!!! and it still makes sense!!!!!!! ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, i am suffering

Is it okay to talk to someone with standart finnish instead spoken finnish?

Id say your casual Finnish equals my formal Finnish XD

I order my coffee like: "Tota yks kahvi" 😂

In Oulu, we would prob say 'Saisinko mää yhen kupin kahavia, kiitos'

Hei Aleksi! I liked your video, but I was wondering if I need to say pronouns like "mä." When practicing I always leave our the pronouns, but is it more natural to include them?

Hienoo että sä opetat ihmisiä kuinka puhutaan Suomea. Pointsit siiitä!

Työelämässä olen huomannut, että varsinkin isompien asiakkaiden kanssa on järkevämpää puhua kirjakieltä sekä teititellä ellei kyseessä ole todella tuttu asiakas... Rennon rauhallinen puhekieli antaa välinpitämättömän epäammattimaisen kuvan.

Sounds like Finns shorten or abreviate everything.

And if this wasn't complicated enough everyone has their own dialect & variation in pronunciation, vocabulary etc. For example, I would say these sentences "a bit" differently. - (Mul) yks kahvi, kiitos. - Kiitos. - Saisiks mä yhen kupin kahvii? - Hei Arttu, voiks mä tuora ton raportin kahelt? - Juu, tuo ihmees. Katotaa se sillo läpi. - Voiraa kattoo. - Me syörää. - Me juoraa. - Me tanssitaa pöyril. - [insert name] tääl, hei. Mä haluisin varata pöyräm mul ja mun kavereil täks illaks. Kiva, pistäppä tota yks pöytä mun nimel täl illal. Kiva, kiitos, moi! I really have no idea how to mark my "d" sound... It's a strange sound between r & d, mut it's not the ordinary r, since I can hear a small difference between veren (blood's) and veren (water's). :P But as you can see, there are some differences in my speech compared to his.

Tästä videosta tuli mieleeni lukioluokallani ollut japanilainen tyttö, joka oli opiskellut japanissa suomea seitsemän vuotta ja tuli suomeen vaihto-oppilaaksi. Ei ymmärtänyt lainkaan suomea puhutussa muodossa ja englantia sitten käytettiin. Sitä en tosin tiedä, oliko kielen opiskelu ollut kuinka intensiivistä tuon seitsemän vuoden aikana ja ymmärsikö kuinka hyvin suomea kirjoitetussa muodossa. Sitä vain ajan takaa, että monelle ulkomaalaiselle kielen opiskelijalle tämä puhutun- ja kirjoitetun kielen ero on niin suuri, että ymmärrys katoaa kokonaan. Se varmaan on aika latistava kokemus, kun tuohon muuriin törmää.

We spent exactly one day on spoken Finnish. Then there are words used in spoken that are Swedish. So confusing especially in Helsinki.

What about all the different dialects? :P For example Minä = Miä, mie, mä.

mua ärsytti kun sanoin ni ja tyyppi luuli että käytin toista muotoa,eli te mutta monikossa.

Kuppi mustaa :)

Ooks Mä ainoo, joka ei sano voinks vaan sanon voiks. Niinku voiks Mä saada kahvii.enkä voinks saada kahvii. Outoo, koska en oo kuullutkaan tyyliin kenenkään sanovan voinks tai muutenkaan tota n kirjaint Nois tollasis sanois.

Just an immediate correction: Inside the finnish language there is standardised written Finnish, and in the spoken language there are several dialects. For example: "Now I, too, understand" Standard Finnish: Nyt minäkin ymmärrän. Savonian: Nyttii minnäi ymmärrän. "I am Finnish" Standard Finnish: Minä olen Suomalainen. Savonian: Mie oun Suomalaanen Turku: Mnää ole Suamlane Ostrobothnian: Minä oon Suomalainen. etc. etc.

Not to mention all the regional differences

I'd like to add that in some parts we tend to use last names instead of first names. especially on workplaces. It's still casual and all the same rules apply. There's no mr. (herra) Suomalainen. Just "Hei Suomalainen ootko tänään iltavuorossa?" (Hey Suomalainen are you at the night shift today?)

Moro Moro ? :) Moshi Moshi ? :D

"Saisinks mä yhe kupi kahavii"

Hei tää on hyvä että opetat suomea

Moi, puhuminen on eri kuin ymmärtäminen, kirjakieli....SANOISITKO KAIKILLE; ETTÄ PUHUVAT SUOMEN KIELEN SANOJA MITÄ TIETÄVÄT JA SILLOIN PÄÄSTÄÄN ETEENPÄIN ITSE SANOMAN JA YMMÄRRYKSEN VÄLILLÄ..ota koppi Aleksi :) Tämä on sanan ja merkityksen hyäilyvyyttä, että se on vaikeeta... Tämä on tarkoitettu silleen, jotta kun tilaat kahvii ni ei tarvii sanoo mitään kuin "kahvi"thanks or coffee Kiitos... hope you get point of my thingie

And if you are in Tampere, instead of Mä we say Mää, like a sheep. and Saisinko mä yhen kupin kahvia = Saisko kupin kahvia, kiitos.

This is how Latin transformed to Italia.

"Saammä yhe kahvin kiitti"

and then come all the dialects ........

Oletko käynyt armeijaa vielä 🤔

Newsflash! Every language has spoken language and written.

suomessa on vielä paljon murteita.

Olen koko ikäni asunu Suomessa, enkä vieläkään osaa puhua suomea. Ihmetyttää miten ulkomaalaiset jaksaa harjoitella.🤔

ite käytän kahvia sijaan kahvii