Mine has the the property along with my neighbors but there arent any measuements.

@@ShyRage1 Thank you.

The only problem is that the spikes could have been moved/relocated at some point.

You should hire a surveyor, and why it costs so much is because to survey a lot you have to survey the entire lot we can’t just pop out and do one corner. It’ll save you thousands in the long run when you put the fence in the wrong spot

@@PuckADV nice try, surveyor

Will set you back around 900 bucks. Hire a surveyors

We start with front corners that are in the open. Set up on one and locate the other. That gives us our barring . From there we will either cut to the next by means of the angel given on the plot plans from previous surveyors. Or we will set a traverse point. Set up on that and back sight out original point. And inverse between the prop corners which gives us our new angel to look for that corner. If we haven't already found it during our recon on the property.

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@@lordvader3538 thank you.

depends a little on where you are....but in the 19th century stones were most often used as monumentation.

The GIS maps aren't accurate. You will need to get a boundary survey.

@@lordvader3538 The GIS map is exactly accurate on the 3 corners that still have the marker pins. I understand what you are saying about it not being accurate but since I made my comment above, I have located 3 pins by using the GIS map. My wife and I have already been discussing having a legal survey done to prevent any confusion. The area that the guy mows is actually inside of our front fence. Our property has a wooden rail fence along the front and if you are looking out of our front door he is mowing the left front corner. He actually has to come around our fence with his mower. It wouldn't really be a big deal but he seems to be thinking that this area belongs to them. It is approximately 15-25 feet × 295 feet. That is not a small area . we will probably be getting a survey done but I have other things that need that money.

@@c.blakerockhart1128 noted. You will still probably need to get a survey. The signed and sealed documents are what covers the red tape within the city/county. You probably are on the correct corners. But without a licensed survey you are just on random corners if that makes sense. There’s a bit of bureaucratic nonsense involved.

@@lordvader3538 Understood.

@@lordvader3538 This conversation caused me to go out and look at where the survey spike/marker is supposed to be. There IS a 5-6 inch dip and when I poked my septic probe into it I was not surprised when it basically fell through the first 16-20 inches before becoming solid ground. But it is exactly where the GIS shows it too be. I guess we are getting a survey done and then I am going to be selling produce from my side of his garden. The thing that bothers me the most about it is that they have at least 0.5 (half) an acre. There is a burn pile area in the center of it and yet he constantly tosses his debris onto what he KNOWS is my property. The occasional weed wouldn't really matter but this dude used wooden stakes and strings to make his rows straight and when he was done with them I had to get it out of my yard so as not to damage my mower. I honestly believe that he is trying to pick an argument. If that property didn't belong to a church, I would buy it just to keep him away.

Happens often, that’s why we get hired, corners don’t always exist

I did it. I was looking for my car keys. Sorry for the inconvenience.

Surveyors need to tie into monuments within the entire plat to triangulate the lot they are working on, in a survey sometimes you have to find monuments thousands of feet away from the lot you are working on

Please let us know when you find your neighbor's bush.

@@mts7274 that would be awesome been trying for years

Often times, section "corners" lie right in the middle of two roads, aka an intersection. There can also be NE SE SW and NW corners of the right-of-way at intersections.

@@dave67npr that's also assuming the road was paved in the center of the R/W.

As a 23 year long surveyor I sort of agree. You can do the basics yourself. A metal detector like he is using runs about $900. You can use a coin finder type of detector but that will get you within the area. Not real accurate.

We don't hide them. Generally speaking - when Property Corners are set (depending on where you live & State Statutes / Rules & Reg.'s) at least an 18" rebar is placed in the ground with a "cap - or - tag" bearing the License Number of the REGISTERED PROFESSIONAL LAND SURVEYOR - and we put "flagging" around it (usually fluorescent pink or orange) as well a a 4ft tall "lathe" (or stake - if you will) all "flagged up" as well marked "PROP. COR." (Property Corner) - But over time, the stakes get pulled out of the ground by "whoever" - usually kids - and before you know it - you don't even know it's there. When the Surveyor leaves the "Site" - everything is very clearly marked for the Property Owner.....

I bet you get chiggers, ticks and poison ivy. That's rough.

They are set below ground to protect them from being disturbed. We have to do that because if you leave them sticking up, they will get hit and moved, usually by a lawn mower. When people ask me how to mark it so they can find it again, I recommend a piece of heavy pvc pipe left sticking up a few inches away from the actual marker.

@@greenbeans575 And if you work in Florida... snakes, alligators and the dreaded no-see-ums!😮

@@dave67npr What does the average land owner need to find the original markers? A metal detector? What are the options?

Not necessarily. Some states don't require all corners to be marked, others do. And some get destroyed by construction or vandalism.

@@jpmacoo SO let me ask you. If one couldn't find records of markings anywhere, how does a surveyer company have this?

@@ShyRage1 Not really sure what you're asking here. But deeds and plans/maps/plats are recorded at either your county or municipality, depending on how it's done in your state. Also, not all states require plans to be recorded. Subdivision plans are usually recorded. But if I survey someone's lot and prepare a plan, they may choose not to record it. I will have a copy, of course, and whoever the landowner chooses to give a copy to, will also have the plan, then. If you're asking how surveyors determine where to put a survey monument when one doesn't exist, then that's a combination of research, fieldwork/measurement, calculations, evaluation, etc.

No surveyors will bury or put any meat into the ground. We normally set iron pins (iron rods) with wooden STAKES (not steak 🥩) near the pins so everyone can find the iron pins that are in the ground easier.

@@DMAneoth ah ok. My dumb butt was out there with my dog trying to sniff out the steaks. Instead of the metal detector, I used my dog because he loves steaks. SIlly me, now I know. Thank you for letting me know this. Phew.