Same. It’s sad how much fastfood restaurants that have dining rooms have chosen to keep theirs close, too.

This is why I hate Dutch bros coffee smh

I wouldn't even call them "restaurant".

@kailahmann1823 I was debating that when I wrote the comment, but thought about the fast food establishments that lock their doors and only open the drive thru

the only worse thing is delivery-only restaurants.

That's what summer camps are for.

Yeah pretty much. We all wanna do fun activities with our friends but theres no where to go unless we hop in the car and drive 30 minutes or more. Which is fine sometimes, but I don’t wanna do that everyday, and we shouldn’t expect children to have a car or license at such a young age

@@cmdrls212 Can a random kid just go out the door and walk to a summer camp? And what about when its not summer?

thats why we stopped touching grass.

@@arahman56 I did it all the time when I had summer camps. Some of these even have vans to pick them uo

Having cars overflow onto the street is a common problem at chik fil a locations nationwide.

Plus how many don't go actually park before eating. The number of people I've seen going 60+ mph with a burger in one hand and drink in the other...

We just went through a pandemic where we were REQUIRED to isolate from other people. Drive-ins were a necessity.

@@MrBirdnoseDrive Thrus have been around for 6+ decades. I wasn’t aware the pandemic existed for 6+ decades

​@@MrBirdnose because it'd totally be impossible otherwise. Right?

we MUST have a video of that! :)

Good! Maybe they'll get the idea that neither drive thrus or monster SUVs are a good idea. Unfortunately, it's more likely that the drive-thrus will remodel, making it only possible for monster vehicles to use them. This adds one more reason I'm very happy to live in Minneapolis!

More asphalt for me 😊

​@@POVwithRC Oh ok.

@@POVwithRC You can have it, maintain it (please don't use my tax dollars) and do whatever you want on it ... just don't run me and other non-car people over.

Not having a car since 2022 reminded me how truly repulsive life is without one.

@@ItsDaJax Living well without a car ABSOLUTELY depends on where you live and what you like to do. I'm in central Minneapolis, a pleasant 2 mile walk (or 7 minute bus ride) from my downtown office. Within a mile of my home I have 5 supermarkets, 2 world class museums, assorted parks, and too many cafes to count. Transit to other places is well developed. I only got rid of my car after it sat completely unused for 2 years. I truly did not need it. On the other hand, if you live in a suburb, and / or like to go camping or take long road trips, if there are no commercial businesses within a couple of miles, if there's no transit to your workplace ... a car is necessary. The goal is not to eliminate all cars, it's to lower the total number. Make it easier for people like me to live well without a car, so people like you have less crowded roads when you need to drive.

Additionally, it prevents a lot of franchise restaurants from being here, as many of their franchise agreements require drive throughs. (Like there’s no Culver’s in the city of Minneapolis) For better or worse.

portland and minneapolis? they happen to be the most bike friendly too

In my city this is actually hit or miss. Apparently it's left up to the manager here 🤷

I heard this was a liability/insurance issue.

I got hit with the same in several small towns in Maryland. Nearly 15 years ago, a bank in my hometown allowed it, but it's probably because they knew me. However, McDonald's is usually fiercely against serving you at a drive-through window if you are not in a motor vehicle. They'll take a sewage truck before they take a bicycle.

Yup people are a risk. People in cars aren't a risk. Make it make sense.

I don't understand the app thing. At all.

@@qwertykeyboard5901 The people that use the app avoid the line of walk-in customers, and get in the line of people that used the app. 😀

@@qwertykeyboard5901 it is a way for these companies to track you and to "learn" your habits so they know what and when to offer you specials and have the highest sucess rate Bloomberg had an article talking with people behind the McD app and it is scary shiz

drive through at river/Osborne would be a traffic nightmare with all the density the area has and heavy through traffic

I did, but I never felt satisfied with the original video and wanted to redo it. I do think this version is a lot better.

imho the key is STROAD and drive through is the symptom of super low density urban design and they "work together" in a symbiotic relationship made in hell

My spouse and I stopped at a Starbucks last month. Our kid was at Parents Night Out and we were on a date, needed to use up half an hour near the daycare. The inside of this Starbucks had a bench along one wall. That's it. There were three tiny tables in front of it, big enough to hold a laptop. No lounge chairs, no tables for two, no tables for small groups. There were four lawn chairs outside, contained within the smelly traffic of the Drive-Thru. What a dud of a cafe.

Yes.

​@@qwertykeyboard5901 Sounds like absurdity. My country ias VERY FAR from being walkable, and it suffers from the same addiction to cars, but every single drive-thru is a restaurant on its own. Mind you, drive-thrus are not uncommon AT ALL, but the idea of there existing a restaurant for cars only is absurdity. More over, the existence of drive-thru ATMs is equally outlandish. I understand why, but if you NEED to drive to an ATM, might as well just drive to a bank. Those are quite common here, and parking is literally daily habit for everyone (we are addicted to cars, afterall) so there is no such need for car ATMs. Also, banks know that people need ATMs, and given that shopping malls are always built in or near commercial streets and centers where most people go to buy, banks just place ATMs inside shopping malls. No need for entire offshoot infrastructure built just to run and protect ATMs from the elements like a drive-thru would require.

I know I love drive-ins, there are only a few of them around but they are around.

Wow, florida doing something right (w.r.t. conflict points)?!

As much as drive thru banks are bad for walkability, those tubes were always so much fun to watch

It depends on the area you live in. Most fast food places will prioritize the drive thru. They prioritize it so much that people in the lobby are completely forgotten about and they end up spending more time in the restaurant than if they had just gone through the drive thru. Hell, some places don't even have staff running the lobby anymore, and you have to order your food with one of those self checkout kiosk tablets. It's a feedback loop. The drivethru is faster because the employees are required to prioritize the drive thru, which makes it slower for the people in the lobby, which makes them want to go thru the drive thru, which puts more cars in said drive thru, thus making the employees prioritize it MORE because more people are coming in the drive thru.

@@Sqwivigyup. When I was a teenager I worked at McDonald’s for many years. This was over 20 years ago, so things could be different. But even back then, we were trained to prioritize the drive thru. Our drive thru was computerized and each order had a timer that would flash if a customer’s order wasn’t cleared after three minutes. By clear, it meant the order was handed off and the order now deleted off the screen. You could “park” orders (when they have you pull up and wait) but doing that too many times would cause issues. Upper management would come down on everyone for having longer than average drive thru waits. It wasn’t uncommon for the franchise owner to park near the restaurant and watch the drive thru. Seriously. They knew how vital the drive thru was, even then. She’d call if the line was backing up or if she was seeing times different than what we reported. People ordered more food through drive thrus. They don’t get refills, use the bathrooms, make messes we had to clean up. They do see drive thru customers as more profitable I guess. We were taught that we should always prioritize drive through and we were never penalized for guests waiting too long at the counter. If they complained, we gave them a free dessert, like a pie or cone. On busy days we’d take their money and give them their drinks, tell em we’d bring it out to them. So many times we forgot until they’d go up to the counter wondering where their food was 😂 Always felt bad because most of the customers who came in were far more polite than the drive thru people. I grew to LOATHE working the drive thru after a year or two. And the McDonald’s I worked at was huge. It had a play place and at that time it was located in front of a busy shopping mall. Heck, we even did birthday parties still. Loads of people walked in, but we were still told to prioritize drive thru. They saw no issues with people waiting 10-20 minutes for their food, when they ate inside. To me, that seemed weird since we obviously designed it for people to come inside too. I got b*tched at for going to clear and wipe down tables when the drive thru was “too busy.” There were hardly any clean tables and they told me I could give the guests a rag and sanitizer for THEM TO CLEAN THE TABLE THEMSELVES. I thought that was absurd and disgusting to expect guests to do that. I didn’t and several customers thanked me and complained about how trashed it was. I know it’s just McDonald’s but no way was I doing that. But once our drive thru clearance got up to 4 minutes per car, the manager would be complaining. So you ain’t wrong. The truth is, most fast food places really don’t gaf about people who come in. It has to be worse now. Srry I ramble 🫠

I'll leave if I see them prioritizing the drive-thru.

On the downside, many places had testing and vaccination _only_ from drive throughs, shutting out people without cars.

Those chikfila workers take orders outside too, so the breathing in all that car exhaust from 40 idling cars☹️

not to mention make mess inside the second most expensive purchase and get little convenience for the "privilege"

Yes, last year. Because the awful traffic it caused

Near a highway exit ramp too

There’s one coming to Seattle downtown? Or Bellevue? Or you mean some unrelated city?

@@bass-tones Sorry unrelated city

@@johnnguyen6159 Bummer, got excited for a minute, ha

Based

I could swear they give priority to drive-thru orders over eat-in orders, especially now that so many fast food places have kiosk-only ordering for eat-in, and you now always have to wait. If the orders are visible on a monitor that the customer can see, try and track eat-in vs drive-thru orders to see for sure.

it was never called that

Drive thru ATM broke my brain a little

During COVID drive-up windows were how you got prescriptions if you tested positive. Staff didn't want you going in and exposing them.

A drive through coffee chain.

@@morganm9040 Ok thx :)

and most likely a shitty unauthentic american one

Another smallish coffee chain is Peet’s Coffee. It was actually started by someone that grew up in the Netherlands. Starbucks originally sold Peet’s Coffee in their store and later started roasting their own beans.

I swear they put cocaine in it lol. Have you ever seen these kind of lines at any other fast food place? I had to stop. Something in their food is addictive

Kirkland layout is better and efficient

That’s why im moving to queen anne. I’m a transplant so the isolation is exacerbated by the car dependency and it’s making me depressed.

welcome to the world of ada violations because equality is communist!

america in general

7:33 thats the washington vancouver not the cool one damn. the one that is superior to seattle, portland, san francisco, los angeles, and according to rm transit also toronto. proves how much better them canadians are at doing any given thing