How Dune Depicts Basic Human Emotion

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Ryan Zhou

Ryan Zhou

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Analyzing Dune’s characters purely through a screenwriting perspective. A lot has been said about the arduous adaptation process in terms of the book, as well as the cinematography and world-building when it comes to the films. But here, I try to approach a middle ground.
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00:00 - Intro
01:30 - Opening Scene Breakdown
03:25 - Pt. One Analysis
04:30 - Dom Jabbar Scene Breakdown
06:00 - Pt. One Analysis, cont.
09:19 - Pt. Two Analysis
14:18 - Chani Character Breakdown
16:32 - Alternative Pt. Two Story Structure
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@marcocalantoni7645
@marcocalantoni7645 15 сағат бұрын
Firstly, I think your video certainly deserves more attention; it is incredibly well done and put together. Your analysis is also thoughtful and refreshing, although I disagree with some points. Personally, I think Dune part one is a much weaker movie largely due to how it handled the plot involving Dr. Yueh. In the film, his motivations as a character are very unclear and seemingly illogical. Dr. Yueh’s betrayal is a pivotal part of the plot, which is explained much better in the novels. Additionally, Paul’s assimilation into Fremen culture was essential for many reasons important to the story: faithfulness to the source material (mostly), believability in gaining the Fremen’s trust, and world building. The original Dune movie from the 80s actually skipped this and is a major complaint by most people. Including this made Paul’s speech to the Fremen and fight with Feyd much more impactful from my perspective; I even found myself partially cheering for him despite knowing what he becomes later on. I think the fact those scenes are framed as triumphant adds to the tragedy of it. This is subtly underscored by a sense of malice in these scenes. That’s just my two cents as a Dune fan, overall I think you did an excellent job on the video! Definitely read the books, and keep it up!
@Tom_riddle-hw5jq
@Tom_riddle-hw5jq Ай бұрын
Its funny how you criticized how easy it was for Paul to fit in to Fremen society and culture. But in the books, it’s actually much easier for him than in the movies. In the book he effortlessly rides Shai Hulud. But they actually changed it in the movie for him to struggle and fail at first. Which is why the shot of him standing up is so important. It’s showing his triumphant rise as the prophet Mua’dib. I also didn’t hear you mention how Paul is a trained Mentant and Male Bene Gesserit. Which, basically makes him a super genius in sense. So of course someone who has multiple superhuman abilities it’s going to be easy for him to supplant himself in Fremen society. Combine that with the water of life and Paul becomes one of the most powerful people in the universe at the time. He is not the chosen one per say, his Son fits the role of the chosen one more than he does. I’d recommend you read the books, as it’ll give you a deeper understanding of the story at large and why things happen the way they do. A lot of the things you criticized are actually covered in the books with quite a lot of detail. In the movies they used it more as unwritten subtext, as a “If you know you know whats going on here.”. But if you haven’t read the book I completely understand your confusion.
@ryanczhou
@ryanczhou Ай бұрын
First off, thank you for being thoughtful rather than abrasive even though it seems we might disagree in some ways. Second, I do plan to read the book at some point, I do need some time away from Dune though now that I've spent so much time with the films 😅. What I will say is that things that you've mentioned - e.g. Paul being a super genius - I think are super interesting to think about purely within a film context. Like how do you visually portray such inherently internal aspects of being? That being said, I do think Villeneuve tried to cover as much of the overall content within the book as possible even though I think that's an impossible goal; instead, I wish he had tried for a more specific through-line that had something more coherent to say beyond the act of recreation. I also wish I could relate things back to the book more, if only there was time! Being a KZfaqr is hard! Comments like yours are encouraging though. Cheers
@Tom_riddle-hw5jq
@Tom_riddle-hw5jq Ай бұрын
⁠@@ryanczhou Of course!!! Although you’re a new channel, I really liked this video essay and you had a lot of really good points! It’s very clear you studied the movies diligently. You’ve demonstrated a clear potential for content making, and I pray that the algorithm will favour your channel and give you the views / engagement you deserve!! But yes, you’re totally right. In the books Herbert wanted to flip the trope of the chosen one on it’s head. Dune is in essence a criticism of religiosity, and a warning of how following a charismatic leader blindly can be disastrous. In the book there’s a line that states, “The worst thing you can do is put your people’s fate in the hands of a hero.”. So he purposefully made Paul this absolute übermensch, and gave him literally every skill/power in the Dune verse. Paul is essence supposed to effortlessly succeed to prove to illustrate the point that even if a space messiah came along, no matter how superhuman he is, it’s absolutely disastrous to put your faith in one man. As at the end of the day, it’s just another flawed human being. As Dune was written post WW2 and Herbert was a vehement atheist. In the second book Paul is actually compared to Hitler in a conversation with Stilgar, but Stilgar says something along the lines of “60 million deaths for Hitler isn’t bad, but you have far more.”. But your critiques of the movie are completely justified. It’s almost impossible to demonstrate clearly what happens in the books on film, as so much of it happens in the characters mind and from their perspectives. Its stated that Paul can’t actually see the future, but through being a super genius, Bene Gesserit witchcraft, the water of life (which is just an extremely extremely potent psychedelic & poison that allows an individual to reconnect with their ancestors memories/ego/consciousness), Paul’s mind is like a super computer that can predict the future based on unimaginable calculations. Think of the oracle from the matrix, how she was just a prediction algorithm. Same thing with paul. But thats almost impossible to demonstrate on screen without a boring 10 minute explanation. Like the book literally has a dictionary in the back, that you need to continually reference in order to understand the book. And the switch up after Paul drinks the water of life is poorly done in the movie in my opinion. In the books, Paul kinda goes through a personal crisis as he realizes the only way for him to get revenge is wage an intergalactic jihad and kill hundreds of millions, but after some deliberation decides to follow through with it. And then it leads to the scene of him declaring himself as the Lisan Al Gaib. But I appreciate your thoughtful response to my comment! And I look forward to watching and supporting your content in the future. I wish you the best of luck brother!! (And in the books Paul eventually is blinded by a nuke and decides to walk into the desert to his presumed death. However he survives into old age and is referred to as the mad prophet from the taboo / banned religion of Mua’dib. So he is taken down a peg.)
@ryanczhou
@ryanczhou Ай бұрын
Thank you for all the love! You've definitely made me interested in checking out the books soon.
@user-hx7kh2oz2x
@user-hx7kh2oz2x Күн бұрын
Please read the books it will expand your understanding.
@UltimateKyuubiFox
@UltimateKyuubiFox Ай бұрын
Interesting;y, Villeneuve actually made Chani much more active and involved than she was in the book. Her having reservations at all is a film-invention. Also, I don’t see Jessica lying about Paul being ineffective at the voice early on nor the idea she’d want to punish him in Part One. She’s clearly upset that her son has to suffer this test and she’s powerless to refuse the Reverend Mother’s demands there. Before she takes the Water of Life, she fully views him as her son. It’s after that she treats him like a prop.
@ryanczhou
@ryanczhou Ай бұрын
I know that Chani's reservations are film invention, but even so, if that's the case why not fully embrace that model and make it actually convincing? I think what you're arguing about Jessica is totally valid. For me, I don't think the switch in character was totally effective. Thanks for watching though and appreciate the comment!
@DusanPavlicek78
@DusanPavlicek78 9 күн бұрын
I didn't read the books so I wasn't immediately aware of these problems with the second movie. I also felt that the second movie was very linear and the plot line felt simply inevitable but I wasn't able to formulate the reasons so well. Your insights and suggestions are great! 👍
@ryanczhou
@ryanczhou 8 күн бұрын
Thank you!
@Keithjmcc
@Keithjmcc 13 күн бұрын
From Bring me the water to give him the water, do it. Chilling
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