How Edward II's Private Life Nearly Cost The Throne | Britain's Bloodiest Dynasty | Chronicle

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Chronicle - Medieval History Documentaries

2 жыл бұрын

Dan Jones continues his compelling part-dramatised history of the Plantagenet dynasty with a look at the reign of Edward II. In a story of murder, intrigue, lust, betrayal and revenge, he explores what turned his queen, Isabella of France, from a loyal young wife into a bloodthirsty matriarch.
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@brittanysparks1906
@brittanysparks1906 2 жыл бұрын
OMG a whole page dedicated to The Middle Ages! My journey down the rabbit hole commences😊
@nikbear
@nikbear 2 жыл бұрын
I know, but isn't it glorious? , like the history channel used to be before it turned crap! ⚔ 😉
@ChronicleMedieval
@ChronicleMedieval 2 жыл бұрын
The journey has only just begun 😉
@kbflorida888
@kbflorida888 2 жыл бұрын
Yep, but it beats fly fishing…
@g_g8537
@g_g8537 2 жыл бұрын
@@ChronicleMedieval it's not even your documentary stop stealing content.
@karahershey
@karahershey Жыл бұрын
me to
@ericahodge1844
@ericahodge1844 9 күн бұрын
Theres no one better than Dan Jones. Books, tv shows, podcasts...theyre ALL fantastic!
@superwario2741
@superwario2741 2 жыл бұрын
These are fantastic. Dan Jones is great at narrating.
@PerpetualAlfa
@PerpetualAlfa 2 жыл бұрын
Be sure to check out the sequel series “Britain’s Bloody Crown”
@Angie2343
@Angie2343 Жыл бұрын
Agreed!
@mbgal7758
@mbgal7758 2 жыл бұрын
I love Isabella, I’m sympathetic to her adultery. If I had been married to a man who was likely gay for over a decade and his lover took my children away I imagine if some sexy enemy of my husband popped up I would probably stray too. You don’t take a woman’s children and give them to your lover. I just wish she had done a better job at governing, would maybe have given women a bit more respect. She was definitely ruthless enough to be a Middle Ages monarch
@michelleg7
@michelleg7 Жыл бұрын
And the fact that she supported him even after he constantly humiliated her is something I can't say I was sorry she did. I think he was the worse king ever to rule England.
@timhazeltine3256
@timhazeltine3256 7 ай бұрын
She was an absolutely incompetent ruler and no better than her husband in regard to bed hopping. Moreover, she was widely hated by the English leople.
@mbgal7758
@mbgal7758 7 ай бұрын
@@timhazeltine3256 I never said she was good at ruling. I straight up said I wish she had been better at ruling. Her and Mortimer’s extravagance in a time when the treasury was still in shambles from Edward II was stupid. His “bed hopping” started long before hers and imo he pushed her beyond her limits when he seized her lands and her children to be raised by Despenser’s wife. The English people came to hate her but they were more than happy to hand the crown over to her, a foreign queen and her lover because Edward II was so hated.
@KittyKat-xg4tx
@KittyKat-xg4tx 2 жыл бұрын
This is my favorite type of documentaries!
@ChronicleMedieval
@ChronicleMedieval 2 жыл бұрын
More where that came from :)
@barbaralamson7450
@barbaralamson7450 2 жыл бұрын
Nothing quite like family. Excellent, thank you.
@ChronicleMedieval
@ChronicleMedieval 2 жыл бұрын
Our pleasure!
@KittyKat-xg4tx
@KittyKat-xg4tx 2 жыл бұрын
Short Version: Huge Despenser disrespected the queen(The she wolf) and king Edward chose Despenser over her and their children after she risked her life multiple times through out their marriage for the king and her country, and then Despenser comes and takes her children away from her. He then uses the kids as leverage to make her do things he wants in his interest... She was sent back to France (her home country) to get the french to back up Edward in a war, and when she was gone for awhile Edward told her to come home she said no. But she wanted him to go there instead. The King and Despenser ended up sending the first born son of Edwards to france since the king or Despenser wouldnt go.. Once the son is in france with her, the queen said in front of the subjects of France that her husband(King Edward) was dead to her. She then became lovers with one of his enemies and raise an army against him. Britain welcomed the queen back and fought against Edward. So to get revenge on that same man that the king chose over her that caused her marriage, family and country to fall apart, she stood there at the top of the bridge walk way, watching Despenser getting the crap beat out of him, half way hung, his penis cut off and his intestines being pulled out, all while eating a plum with a smug look of happines on her face!
@profitprophets1363
@profitprophets1363 2 жыл бұрын
Its so perfect what you wrote but because it is so perfect and detailed half way thru I cracked up laughing 🤣 thinking of you recalling this all from the clip and gifting us this summary. I love your work.
@KittyKat-xg4tx
@KittyKat-xg4tx 2 жыл бұрын
@@profitprophets1363 thank you!! Its one of my favorite moments in history oddly lol
@mish375
@mish375 2 жыл бұрын
Well let's be fair here: she was treated so ill and for a very long time that she would have snapped and wanted revenge. Especially after her children were taken away from her as blackmail. Plus she had the means to do it once her son was back. Such a bizarre note in human history, but honestly, kind of badass as well despite horrific execution.
@LifeStrike2030
@LifeStrike2030 2 жыл бұрын
The largest homophobic hatecrime ever
@KittyKat-xg4tx
@KittyKat-xg4tx 2 жыл бұрын
@@LifeStrike2030 not necessarily, the king had lovers that were men through out his time but yet this is the only man she truely took out her anger on as he took her children and freedoms away and black mailed her. Its more of a karma thing than your sexual preference..
@sarahthomas7692
@sarahthomas7692 2 жыл бұрын
Ah yes, Edward and Gaveston, those famous "friends."
@MrShoryuken1
@MrShoryuken1 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, not sure why they didn't explore their homosexual relationship further.
@mangot589
@mangot589 2 жыл бұрын
@420 rgb Where on earth did you hear THAT? Their stories have absolutely nothing in common lol.
@silasmarner7586
@silasmarner7586 2 жыл бұрын
@@mangot589 W-w-w-whaaaat?? Didn't you know!!!????
@mangot589
@mangot589 2 жыл бұрын
@@silasmarner7586 I guess I’m out of the loop 🤣
@caroledickerson5616
@caroledickerson5616 2 жыл бұрын
Right. Wink wink.😃
@antidoteforlife9460
@antidoteforlife9460 2 жыл бұрын
The production is superb, the reenactments are great. This is quality
@ChronicleMedieval
@ChronicleMedieval 2 жыл бұрын
Stay tuned for more ⚔
@tilesetter1953
@tilesetter1953 2 жыл бұрын
Give me a break, the music is F***ING horrible! What is it with that g.damned addiction in almost every "historical" video???? Stuff it.
@courtneyst.julian8192
@courtneyst.julian8192 2 жыл бұрын
These documentaries are riveting. The storytelling and plot lines are better than any work of fiction.
@mnhunterjr
@mnhunterjr 3 ай бұрын
Isabella is my new favorite… revenge is a dish best served cold…
@Malikin
@Malikin 2 жыл бұрын
Its frightening how he is in the same room where a king was executed 800 years ago
@gullwingstorm857
@gullwingstorm857 2 жыл бұрын
Edward II wasn't much of a king though.
@nicolawebb6025
@nicolawebb6025 2 жыл бұрын
It's rather a nice place actually
@ktom5262
@ktom5262 2 жыл бұрын
The young actress playing Isabella is lovely.
@neiloflongbeck5705
@neiloflongbeck5705 2 жыл бұрын
A very superficial telling of the reign of Edward II and the death of Piers Gaveston. The death of Gaveston was much more interesting than given here. Edward II and Gaveston were at Knaresborough in January 1312 and were in Newcastle in May when Thomas of Lancaster force marched his men to the city, including the Earl of Pembroke, Henry Percy and Robert Clifford. The King and Gaveston barely escaped. They ended up in Scarborough and when the King left for York Lancaster placed his men between the two whilst the men under Pembroke, Percy, Clifford and Earl Warenne besieged Scarborough Castle. Gaveston surrendered and was taken to York, where negotiations with Edwatd II were to be conducted. Gaveston was be released on 1st August if negotiations with Edward II failed. He was then taken south to Oxfordshire, in Pembroke's custody to Deddington, where he was kidnapped by Thomas of Lancaster's men and taken to Warwick for his trial. Found guilty he was taken to the nearest piece if Lancaster's land and beheaded by 2 Welshmen. The kidnapping drove a wedge between Pembroke and Lancaster and made Pembroke the King's man. Much more interesting than the bland account given here. Hugh Despenser the Younger becomes a sea monster (ie a pirate) when he was banished. Lancaster was supposed to come to Badlesmere's aid but refuse because he didn't like Badlesmere. Lancaster was supposed to move to the Welsh Marches but did not, forcing the Mortimers (Roger of Chirk and his nephew Roger of Wigmore (the one that escaped from the Tower of London and allegedly became Queen Isabella's lover)) to surrender. One his escape from the Tower of London Roger of Wigmore fled to France, where he became the focal point of the resistance to Edward II, so much so that before Queen Isabella was allowed to go to France Roger and the other exiles had to be banished from France. The Mortimers claimed to be descended from the legendary King Arthur through Llewellyn the Great, his maternal grandfather. There was a legend that a son of the Mortimer house would one day be King of England. Thomas of Lancaster wasn't the King Arthur named in these letters. Thomas of Lancaster was captured the morning after the Battle of Boroughbridge. It took 3 blows to remove his head, he was dead after the 1st blow. The landings of Queen Isabella and Roger Moryimer of Wigmore was in the Orwell estuary, which us not known for white cliffs. They had come from Hainault with a small army, of about 4,000 men.
@gullwingstorm857
@gullwingstorm857 2 жыл бұрын
So where is your AMAZING video detailing it all?
@neiloflongbeck5705
@neiloflongbeck5705 2 жыл бұрын
@@gullwingstorm857 if you want 15+ hours then that can be arranged. But that would barely cover Puers Gaveston.
@gullwingstorm857
@gullwingstorm857 2 жыл бұрын
@@neiloflongbeck5705 No, that's fine. My comment was tongue-in-cheek. Gaveston got everything he deserved.
@courtneyvoiles5844
@courtneyvoiles5844 2 жыл бұрын
Love this video and many of your others!
@raechelcleberg8854
@raechelcleberg8854 7 күн бұрын
It's like Edward's living in denial his whole life. Makes you wonder, with the father he had, how did he turn out so tremendously different? It boggles the mind, at least to me.
@makeupboss3568
@makeupboss3568 2 ай бұрын
Gripping and riveting.. Middle Ages were a crazy time in England’s History. Not to mention a quite violent one, the things that Royals did to people were unfathomable .
@phillipstroll7385
@phillipstroll7385 2 жыл бұрын
This just proves kings never really had any power at all.
@peggysuejones4285
@peggysuejones4285 2 ай бұрын
I am really enjoying learning more about the Plantagenant dynasty. My father's paternal grandmother's line traces directly back to the Plantagenants while his maternal grandmother's line goes back to Robert the Bruce. Both sides fought each other at the Battle of Bannockburn.
@flavio17021979
@flavio17021979 2 жыл бұрын
Love it even so Tudors are mine favourite dynasty
@BeeIncarnate
@BeeIncarnate 2 жыл бұрын
Edward & Gaveston were just friends like Bert & Ernie were just roommates
@SaltRiverAmyJean
@SaltRiverAmyJean 2 жыл бұрын
Next time someone says to me, "You like history? But it's so boring." I'll just send them this video.
@StevenTorrey
@StevenTorrey 2 жыл бұрын
Marlow's play lends interesting insight to the knowledge of homosexuality, not only in Shakespeare's day but in Edward II's day as well.
@geoffreyeljefe4544
@geoffreyeljefe4544 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent work. Subscribed
@ChronicleMedieval
@ChronicleMedieval 2 жыл бұрын
Welcome aboard!
@cdc194
@cdc194 2 жыл бұрын
"Buggered to death..." That's a new one.
@ravenhines2799
@ravenhines2799 2 жыл бұрын
Actually, its a pretty old one.
@lanaconin5704
@lanaconin5704 2 жыл бұрын
It sure is 😂💯
@cherylmacgregor5650
@cherylmacgregor5650 2 жыл бұрын
I just discovered this channel. I’m reading the book by William Rosen, “The Third Horseman” which gives history of the time of Edward II. I thought I’d try to get some visuals to go along with my reading and tried KZfaq. And here I am! Thanks very much for these videos. This time period interests me very much. Cheers from Florida!
@glorialange6446
@glorialange6446 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent
@incanegrodelcampo9357
@incanegrodelcampo9357 2 жыл бұрын
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@frankmc5021
@frankmc5021 2 жыл бұрын
This channel doesn't make this video's.
@jrm1077
@jrm1077 2 жыл бұрын
Jeez, calm down.
@Josway37
@Josway37 2 жыл бұрын
Please tell me you're a bot designed to spew hyperbolic praise.
@danofyork
@danofyork 2 жыл бұрын
Not sure why views not higher
@jacksmythe2187
@jacksmythe2187 2 жыл бұрын
It'a a re upload. Good documentary, but it's on quite a few channels already
@davidhocde007
@davidhocde007 2 жыл бұрын
There aren't any little cute cats, nor bodybuilders... History might not be fashionable enough...
@wonderbucket1242
@wonderbucket1242 2 жыл бұрын
at 40:56 the executioner take his sword out from an invisible sheath. 😳
@Malikin
@Malikin 2 жыл бұрын
there's no sheath, he had just hooked his sword
@JonBlondell
@JonBlondell 2 жыл бұрын
You have a new subscriber!
@ChronicleMedieval
@ChronicleMedieval 2 жыл бұрын
Welcome aboard!
@g_g8537
@g_g8537 2 жыл бұрын
Should sub to timeline history this channel just steals its content this documentary is couple years old
@Zoomer30_
@Zoomer30_ 2 жыл бұрын
Real life Lannisters.
@lorirussell6679
@lorirussell6679 2 жыл бұрын
I enjoy these videos, but, the gaps keep me from fully enjoying them! Why was Richard and John, along with Edward Longshanks and others cut from this story? I am aware that there are other stand alone videos that feature them, but omitting them from the story of the Plantagenet dynasty really messes with the flow of the entire saga. I understand that it may just be me, but this is really bothersome!
@1952jodianne
@1952jodianne 2 жыл бұрын
What a Family! By & large, our family get-togethers (Thanksgiving, Christmas, etc.) have always ended on less than a happy note; yet, I guess, through the generations, we have mellowed considerably. I'm a direct descendant of Henry II (big deal, so are about 100 million other North Americans) through his son John, grandson Henry III, & great-grandson Edmund, Earl of Lancaster & Leicester, father of Thomas of Lancaster. Nowadays, my little branch of the family are relatively lovey-dovey
@petah-peoplefortheendlesst4668
@petah-peoplefortheendlesst4668 2 жыл бұрын
Here for Dan Jones
@davidhocde007
@davidhocde007 2 жыл бұрын
Born in Angers like the Plantagenêt dinasty, worked in Fontevraud l'Abbaye, I can't help to think they turned bad after getting to Britain... Might be the climate.
@pahanjayasooriya2513
@pahanjayasooriya2513 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry I'm late but I really enjoyed this
@ChronicleMedieval
@ChronicleMedieval 2 жыл бұрын
Keep your eyes peeled for the last episode next week!
@waynemarvin5661
@waynemarvin5661 2 жыл бұрын
Story of your life, right? Being late.
@pahanjayasooriya2513
@pahanjayasooriya2513 2 жыл бұрын
@@waynemarvin5661 shut up
@PSDuck216
@PSDuck216 2 жыл бұрын
Why forget the padded/cloth coif under the maille coif? Very necessary. You’d pull your hair out in clumps taking it off, and alone, the maille without padding serves nearly no purpose. Hollywood and modern filmmaking seem to forget this salient piece of armor.
@jenniferclark9842
@jenniferclark9842 Жыл бұрын
Edward II: Honey, can we talk about this?! Isabella: You had your chance, you blew it!
@PerpetualAlfa
@PerpetualAlfa 2 жыл бұрын
Renly Baratheon and Loras Tyrell
@victorlui5955
@victorlui5955 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Dan Jones. 😍❤🤘👊😊
@jay_volpe
@jay_volpe 2 жыл бұрын
Politicians today need to judged similiarly to how they did in these days
@angietyndall7337
@angietyndall7337 2 жыл бұрын
Traitors aren't tried or executed,not even in America anymore. Pathetic!!
@AnnieVanAuken
@AnnieVanAuken 2 жыл бұрын
The executioner with the broadsword that we see twice sure looks like Tony Robinson!
@amethyst5538
@amethyst5538 2 жыл бұрын
So it wasn't just me?!
@AnnieVanAuken
@AnnieVanAuken 2 жыл бұрын
@@amethyst5538 Alas, there's no actor list to verify this, not during closing credits or at IMDb.
@kevinramsey417
@kevinramsey417 2 жыл бұрын
I have a cunning plan ...
@AnnieVanAuken
@AnnieVanAuken 2 жыл бұрын
@@kevinramsey417 Praytell, Sire...
@Angie2343
@Angie2343 2 жыл бұрын
The actors playing Edward and adult Isabella make a great couple in real life.
@tubedweeb
@tubedweeb 2 жыл бұрын
It’s difficult to separate fact from folklore with events that happened so long ago so we’ll probably never know the whole truth. However, I think it’s absurd to claim that Edward’s sexual orientation would have made no difference. Particularly if the charge was used to discredit him. It could be that he was truly in love and because he was apparently unwilling to hide his feelings and pretend the role the English and French nobles and the Church were against him from the start. Historians most often place the blame on King Edward and his relationship with Piers Gaveston but this could be an example of viewing historical events through “straight eyes.” What role did the machinations of the nobles and the Church, and later Queen Margaret, have on Edward’s ability to lead? Was his relationship with Gaveston merely used as a pretense for a power grab? And how much can we trust the documents from his day and subsequent years to give us a honest account of what really happened?
@garyolsen3409
@garyolsen3409 2 жыл бұрын
you know more than I do. how do you trust any history?
@CASLUCASTON
@CASLUCASTON 2 жыл бұрын
Handling those historic documents without gloves?...and nobody around to smack him behind the head!...
@evcotter08
@evcotter08 2 жыл бұрын
Many archives allow this because gloves make you clumsy and clean hands don’t damage the documents. It’s a standard practice (for example at the university of Toronto’s rare book library)
@LuvBorderCollies
@LuvBorderCollies 2 жыл бұрын
@@evcotter08 Cotton gloves are more abrasive than fingertips. Anyone who handles paper a lot get their fingerprints worn. You're right about clean hands. :)
@Nimrodbodeinejr
@Nimrodbodeinejr 2 жыл бұрын
Eddys “special “ friend
@kaloarepo288
@kaloarepo288 2 жыл бұрын
Edward II is reckoned to have been an effete and ineffectual king -dare I say it -a gay king -yet his son Edward III was one of the most effective and "manly" kings England ever had -quite a conundrum that one!
@janejones5362
@janejones5362 Жыл бұрын
Edward III had a strong mother.
@jvillanueva7707
@jvillanueva7707 2 жыл бұрын
Apologies, your Majesty, but we are sold out of hot dogs. Perhaps a plum?
@underworldblu
@underworldblu 2 жыл бұрын
Now, this is true reality TV. And this story is better than anything scripted. By the way, Dan Jones never changes clothes. Creepy. LOL
@jeffreymontgomery4091
@jeffreymontgomery4091 Жыл бұрын
Wow, it will perhaps never cease to amaze me; the absolute inhumanity mankind has, is, and shall inflict upon our own kind... Brutal were those days, Brutal are these days, and Brutal shall be the days to come forever more. It seems to be written into our genetic code. Is it that the methods vary, or could it be society's view about the many methods of brutality that give the "illusion" of what degree we perceive and thus judge brutality by?
@ob8620
@ob8620 Жыл бұрын
Did they speak French in medieval England?
@palanthis
@palanthis 2 жыл бұрын
The lesson - Never piss off a beautiful woman. They have far more influence than you realise.
@mikenelson3338
@mikenelson3338 2 жыл бұрын
What a dark and strange time for humans.
@the_rachel_sam
@the_rachel_sam 2 жыл бұрын
I agree, but what about the Middle Ages? :P
@joellaz9836
@joellaz9836 2 жыл бұрын
@@the_rachel_sam Those were great times.
@bryanguzik
@bryanguzik 2 жыл бұрын
Forget measuring against other rulers, the guy seems oblivious to human nature. Almost transcending selfishness for genuine ignorance. If not for the misery his power allows you might feel sorry for him.
@loganmpe7559
@loganmpe7559 2 жыл бұрын
Isabella & Mortimer rode through the shire and supporters joined them .... Hobbits?
@Lucky_Chase
@Lucky_Chase 2 жыл бұрын
Those Plantagenet kids...
@jean-louispirottin4144
@jean-louispirottin4144 2 жыл бұрын
La langue française était la langue usitée par la noblesse franco-normande régnant en Angleterre !
@jonathanturek5846
@jonathanturek5846 2 жыл бұрын
Parlet vous francais ? Je jour au futbol
@jonathanturek5846
@jonathanturek5846 2 жыл бұрын
Aloha from Hawaii all the way around the globe !
@2msvalkyrie529
@2msvalkyrie529 2 жыл бұрын
Je suis un rock star...!
@francespowell6923
@francespowell6923 2 жыл бұрын
I know that the Plantaganets were supposed to be impressive, but they legit seem to only throw out one decent one every few generations.
@margauxmurray8761
@margauxmurray8761 2 жыл бұрын
Ungloved fingers and hands on historical scrolls
@gullwingstorm857
@gullwingstorm857 2 жыл бұрын
The staff clearly didn't give him any - which means they weren't concerned.
@May-vf4mh
@May-vf4mh 2 жыл бұрын
Sometimes gloves can actually do more damage to historical documents.
@olschoolTonyCarter
@olschoolTonyCarter 2 жыл бұрын
Despenser's death was worse than a Mortal Kombat fatality 😆
@janeeire2439
@janeeire2439 2 жыл бұрын
12:25 25:15 28:11
@marie-franceperrier6542
@marie-franceperrier6542 2 жыл бұрын
What about the daughter nothing mentioned about her
@catherinejohnson1354
@catherinejohnson1354 2 жыл бұрын
Don't these kings learn from their predecessors?
@janejones5362
@janejones5362 Жыл бұрын
Human nature being what it is...
@trentshaffer1362
@trentshaffer1362 2 жыл бұрын
People were really fucked up to see this as entertainment.
@jomon723
@jomon723 2 жыл бұрын
This just don't make sense in some areas
@Chloe-yp7gn
@Chloe-yp7gn 2 жыл бұрын
Are we really not gonna talk about the fact that he was blatantly madly in love with him?
@chris7921
@chris7921 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I think that’s made pretty clear in the documentary
@LifeStrike2030
@LifeStrike2030 2 жыл бұрын
This is how historians express their homophobia. They refuse to acknowledge queerness and actively reduce the truth in their language
@BakerStreetSeries
@BakerStreetSeries 2 жыл бұрын
Gal pals!
@Kevan808
@Kevan808 2 жыл бұрын
Friend with benefits.
@waynemarvin5661
@waynemarvin5661 2 жыл бұрын
I think this is an egregious over-simplification.
@ktom5262
@ktom5262 2 жыл бұрын
How so?
@Meow_Zedong_1949
@Meow_Zedong_1949 2 жыл бұрын
No crap, you have to condense a nearly 20 year reign into an hour long documentary with ads at three intervals within that hour.
@tonylam9548
@tonylam9548 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe this king was the most brutal and treacherous in British history, but I bet you there were several Chinese emperors that will match or exceed that, and they have absolute power. They either were all powerful or they get defeated, none of them ever signed a document that clamped down on their powers. There is still effectively an emperor now, today, except he is not as powerful as before, he cannot dictate his son to succeed him, he changed his title to something more politically savvy, he must have at least 20, beginning with the Chairman of the Com party, What he says quietly will be quickly done, no one dare to argue with him. You can look at him now without permission but he cannot have you killed on the spot if you piss him off, you just disappear, or be in jail with some charges.
@robertlukacs4954
@robertlukacs4954 Жыл бұрын
I would argue that King John was worse than Edward II. And when it comes to sheer brutality, I don’t think that Edward II was nearly as bad as most English kings.
@SGuyer1989
@SGuyer1989 2 жыл бұрын
And they were roommates
@kierandrakos6024
@kierandrakos6024 2 жыл бұрын
Clearly they was lovers
@Roseland8
@Roseland8 2 жыл бұрын
They were bummers
@alleynealisleem9777
@alleynealisleem9777 2 жыл бұрын
💯🤣
@dy9278
@dy9278 2 жыл бұрын
Dear Lord. Let me not judge lest I be judged.
@gullwingstorm857
@gullwingstorm857 2 жыл бұрын
Edward and Gaveston got what they both deserved.
@sandraswannell4170
@sandraswannell4170 2 жыл бұрын
Pretty bloody stupid that Plantaganet mob, yeah?
@thomashernandez8700
@thomashernandez8700 Жыл бұрын
1308-speaking French in court?
@ruthalber4658
@ruthalber4658 2 жыл бұрын
Why can't you say dynasty not dynasty makes more sense
@Katholikos78
@Katholikos78 2 жыл бұрын
Lawd. I'm a descendant of both Edward 2nd and her (Edward the 3rd). 😩🤦‍♂️
@culturecoroner
@culturecoroner 2 жыл бұрын
So are probably most of us. It’s not rare.
@davidwright7193
@davidwright7193 2 жыл бұрын
Well you are a descendant of Isabell of France at least.
@skydivingcomrade1648
@skydivingcomrade1648 2 жыл бұрын
No I think it's justice not murder.
@alegnalowe3679
@alegnalowe3679 2 жыл бұрын
Just a friend my ass!
@AnxiousJeff
@AnxiousJeff 2 жыл бұрын
No TV and no internet in those days. But no problem! People could go see a guy's entrails pulled out. I wonder if popcorn was available at that time.
@ember-brandt
@ember-brandt 5 ай бұрын
It's taking me out of the drama so *hard* that Edward II was not portrayed here with his accurate shoulder-length blonde hair - buuuuuuuut I did really enjoy the overall presentation and dramatization, and thank you so much for clarifying at the very end there that the red hot poker anus torture was far more likely homophobic propaganda. I was really afraid you were going to pass that off as the actual event for a while there.
@robertlukacs4954
@robertlukacs4954 Жыл бұрын
Costumes in this are terrible, but amazing documentary and very informative.
@nefelh83
@nefelh83 2 жыл бұрын
Why do the actors speak in French?
@catherineadair9078
@catherineadair9078 2 жыл бұрын
It was the language spoken by nobles at the time.
@randykirkland3927
@randykirkland3927 2 жыл бұрын
Dress them anyway you want …… this is still a Timewatch rehash……..
@johncole4882
@johncole4882 2 жыл бұрын
Why are they speaking french?
@johncole4882
@johncole4882 2 жыл бұрын
@@underwaterlaser1687 was it Norman conquest? I didn't realize that it changed the language. Was it just the kings and nobleman or was it the whole country? When did it switch back to English?
@jean-louispirottin4144
@jean-louispirottin4144 2 жыл бұрын
Underwater Laser .l'Anglais moderne est une langue créole, germanique par son vocabulaire de base et sa grammaire, hérités du vieil Anglais , et latine par son enrichissement en vocabulaire français et latin ( sans passer alors par le Français) ! Please = plaise , coward = couard , table = table , royal = royal , rich = riche , pour = pauvre , etc
@LuvBorderCollies
@LuvBorderCollies 2 жыл бұрын
@@jean-louispirottin4144 I did not realize how many French words are in "English" until I got a French-English dictionary years ago. Wow!! was my reaction.
@amethyst5538
@amethyst5538 2 жыл бұрын
It was the court language.
@jean-louispirottin4144
@jean-louispirottin4144 2 жыл бұрын
Amethyst Blackstone oui, vous avez raison : la langue des conquérants franco-normands constituant la noblesse, la chevalerie et la cour !
@jonathanturek5846
@jonathanturek5846 2 жыл бұрын
Atleast gaveston has a town named afrer him in Texas
@erikalulea3608
@erikalulea3608 2 жыл бұрын
12 year old,,,, interesting. So do not want to hear a English hater of Islam go on about Aisha, At least she was 16-18 years old. :)
@kimberlywhalen8564
@kimberlywhalen8564 2 жыл бұрын
I am a decent of these people wow I always knew I came from a rough crowd lol
@bluebomb2478
@bluebomb2478 2 жыл бұрын
what if he was like, gay doe
@bluebomb2478
@bluebomb2478 2 жыл бұрын
ok nvm they said possibly
@alexhatfield4448
@alexhatfield4448 2 жыл бұрын
So were they gay or is this just us viewing history through a modern lense like Alexander? (Who was not gay)
@davidwright7193
@davidwright7193 2 жыл бұрын
They were gay. There are contemporary sources that aren’t as euphemistic as the court records. Then there is the legend of Edwards killing which replicates the supposed punishment for sodomy in hell, whoever wrote that thought Edward was gay. There is also a Robin Hood Ballard that refers to Edward as Edward the comely. You do have to avoid Victorian sources or sources edited by Victorians who were trying to whitewash out any hint of homosexuality even from classical texts.
@Immopimmo
@Immopimmo 2 жыл бұрын
Those costumes are terrible! This documentary would've been better off without the actors because the props and costumes are so bad.
@Nimrodbodeinejr
@Nimrodbodeinejr 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah they are barbaric compared to how extravagant the real clothes the royals wore back then even in 1100
@MrJking065
@MrJking065 2 жыл бұрын
Documents and DNA have proven I am from The Kings of the Plantagenets Dynasty. If these stories are true. Than my forefathers were real idiots.
@johnny196775
@johnny196775 2 жыл бұрын
Your rendition of Edward's death is a myth that is largely discredited in academic circles. This is just worthless.
@Tkb135
@Tkb135 2 жыл бұрын
You didn’t watch did you lol
@cheriefoley7434
@cheriefoley7434 2 жыл бұрын
He said as much in the video. You either didn't watch it all or missed that part.
@johnny196775
@johnny196775 2 жыл бұрын
@@cheriefoley7434 What happened was that I became contemptuous of the author bringing up that particular story as there are many false stories told about many monarchs - but this one was mentioned... I take this as looking for clicks in a disgusting way. So I didn't watch it at all.
@sylvainfilion3822
@sylvainfilion3822 2 жыл бұрын
Edwards 2.0=Joe Biden!!!!
@PeacockRhino
@PeacockRhino 2 жыл бұрын
I think he’s more similar to Henry VI who was a senile incompetent that lost a war and kept the kingdom implode!
@skylarkportraitstudio
@skylarkportraitstudio 2 жыл бұрын
Quiet down children.
@justdeeznuts
@justdeeznuts 2 жыл бұрын
Dirty Ed and the boys gonna be putting some D's in some A's
@vishal7arora
@vishal7arora 2 жыл бұрын
Simple fact that changes how you represent Edward II unlike this video: History was written by powerful homophobic people.
@janejones5362
@janejones5362 Жыл бұрын
If everyone was gay, YOU would not exist. You may stand down now.
@jomon723
@jomon723 2 жыл бұрын
Wow...Kind of like Joe Biden
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