How Elh Could Have Completely Changed Luigi’s Mansion

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SwankyBox

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The mystery of the ghostly figure Elh has perplexed Luigi's Mansion fans for years. But how could this entity could have existed in the game? Well... depending on how you spin it, Luigi's Mansion could have been a much darker game.
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What was Elh supposed to be besides now cut content? Where was it supposed to be in the game? It can't be found anywhere out of bounds or within the mansion, so what was its purpose?
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Credits and sources:
Written, filmed, and edited by SwankyBox.
Bounding box model by Astral Feline.
Ehl ability footage by Snoid - • Luigi's Mansion Unused...
Music credits:
Songs from various Luigi's Mansion OST's
"Haunted Hallways" - Luigi's Mansion
"Twisted Suites" - Luigi's Mansion 3

Пікірлер: 931
@SwankyBox
@SwankyBox 3 жыл бұрын
subscribe for elh supremacy
@Cliffordlonghead
@Cliffordlonghead 3 жыл бұрын
@Keebe The Kirby plush fine you win but will get you next time
@Cliffordlonghead
@Cliffordlonghead 3 жыл бұрын
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
@Cliffordlonghead
@Cliffordlonghead 3 жыл бұрын
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
@Cliffordlonghead
@Cliffordlonghead 3 жыл бұрын
Everyone don't threat me
@Cliffordlonghead
@Cliffordlonghead 3 жыл бұрын
@Keebe The Kirby plush I will get to the pinned comment and comment next video
@Kosmicd12
@Kosmicd12 3 жыл бұрын
I think Elh would've been sick during the blackout. The other ghosts constantly spawning and scaring Luigi aka freezing you in place just ended up being kind of annoying. But if Elh just kept popping up as you searched the pitch black mansion that could've been super intimidating and thrilling
@KoCat2867
@KoCat2867 3 жыл бұрын
69th like, lets goooooo
@bottombarrelbudgetfilms1854
@bottombarrelbudgetfilms1854 3 жыл бұрын
Heyyyyyyyy you're that SMB speedrunner! Good seeing you on other Nintendo channels
@goldlight1322
@goldlight1322 3 жыл бұрын
Finding a way to beat Elh before turning the lights back on would’ve been way more interesting than blindly hunting down Uncle Grimmly.
@Shugunou
@Shugunou 3 жыл бұрын
I didn't expect to see the legendary speedrunner Kosmic here.
@hedge8364
@hedge8364 2 жыл бұрын
Elh reminds me so much of Mr. X from resident evil 2.
@seth424
@seth424 3 жыл бұрын
Wasn't there a scraped forest/courtyard level for Luigi's mansion? Perhaps he was a sort of ent spirit that would of been a boss of sorts. Could make sense seeing g how the cage torso could be roots and his hands look a bit like leaves. Either way, love these theories.
@jordancooney6817
@jordancooney6817 3 жыл бұрын
If he was from a scrapped area, it would make sense that he himself was scrapped along with it.
@seth424
@seth424 3 жыл бұрын
@@jordancooney6817 true, though we see artifacts of cut content all the time in games, like the bounding boxes near the graveyard, or the library terminal in fallout 4. Perhaps it was forgotten, planned for something else then dropped, or they ran out of time for the project. Either way, the speculation is probably the best part of this character. ^-^
@jordancooney6817
@jordancooney6817 3 жыл бұрын
@@seth424 Agreed. What's interesting to note is that Luigi's Mansion's internal name is "Project 1". Could it have been the very first game to be developed for the GameCube? It was a launch title.
@The_Real_I_Exist
@The_Real_I_Exist 3 жыл бұрын
I made that connection in my mind but never thought about any further because not many people even thought of this but nice to see another person think of this.
@AzazelDiAscro
@AzazelDiAscro 3 жыл бұрын
But hey, that's just a theory... A GAME THEORY!
@lorddamienblackthorn880
@lorddamienblackthorn880 3 жыл бұрын
What if Elh was a pursuer that tries to place YOU in his chest cage?
@mylanpicornot4114
@mylanpicornot4114 3 жыл бұрын
That's actually very creepy, but if it's what was planned, it wouldn't even be that surprising , considering all the creepy content the game used to have in its early version
@DragonEnthusiast
@DragonEnthusiast 2 жыл бұрын
@@mylanpicornot4114 the hunter ghost especially. Imagine if the “Luigi is the next animal’s head for the wall.” Imagine a fan game based around Luigi’s Mansion but the messed up crap that was cut was in game.
@mylanpicornot4114
@mylanpicornot4114 2 жыл бұрын
@@DragonEnthusiast Well, that would scare lil' kids away, but it would be a good concept for sure, I would play that!
@dustymcwari4468
@dustymcwari4468 2 жыл бұрын
Actually that could also be in a good way, like protecting/hiding you from other ghosts and threats, but he himself wanting to keep you inside or take you to specific spots, so he could be both an ally and a hazard, I dunno
@DragonEnthusiast
@DragonEnthusiast 2 жыл бұрын
@@mylanpicornot4114 ditto
@DanielLCarrier
@DanielLCarrier 3 жыл бұрын
I think the idea that E. Gadd fused ghosts together and forced them to bend to his will just to act as a training dummy to Luigi is the most horrifying possibility listed. Also, as I said last time, Elh is real 2401.
@BR-jw7pm
@BR-jw7pm 3 жыл бұрын
Never considered the weird abdomen for holding an item. Always just assumed it was a deformed monster ghost body thing from a horror film
@landenscott1753
@landenscott1753 3 жыл бұрын
I have theory that it might be tubes or wires I go more into deaph in my other coment
@21Dice
@21Dice 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine Elh was a real person and was killed by something splitting his abdomen
@blockhead1195
@blockhead1195 3 жыл бұрын
if i had to guess, he was most probably just a really early version of bogmire
@OKTANE0
@OKTANE0 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, probably from an earlier version of the game from when it had an actual scary atmosphere, but was cut when they realised they wanted to not get sued for traumatising kids
@SluggishGA
@SluggishGA 2 жыл бұрын
Okay but Bogmire still scared me a ton as a kid lol
@OKTANE0
@OKTANE0 2 жыл бұрын
@The Master of Mario yeah, but you probably weren't as traumatised as the original version of the game would have traumatised you
@SluggishGA
@SluggishGA 2 жыл бұрын
@The Master of Mario were you playing the GameCube version or the 3ds remake? The 3ds one is much brighter, but idk
@rayhayden6220
@rayhayden6220 2 жыл бұрын
I remember on the original video, I posted a concept of an Elh boss fight that I thought felt similar to Bogmire.
@EvilJawa
@EvilJawa 3 жыл бұрын
Elh, as a creation of E. Gadd, makes more sense when you picture a Gooigi like texture. Like he was a prototype.
@hostrider4535
@hostrider4535 3 жыл бұрын
that is a really good point
@samuelsabourin5938
@samuelsabourin5938 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@jonathanmarth6426
@jonathanmarth6426 2 жыл бұрын
Well, I dunno how much the team behind Luigi's Mansion in 2001 was thinking about a game that wouldn't release for another 18 years. But it's a nice head canon.
@theironycomedy6
@theironycomedy6 2 жыл бұрын
@@jonathanmarth6426 Actually, Gooigi first appeared in the 3DS remake, so...
@iambecomeprinny7305
@iambecomeprinny7305 3 жыл бұрын
I still really believe he was a late game boss, I think the lack of any coding or files related to elh just shows they never got far enough into development, imo they may have intended to give him a water attack as well as a defeated animation but cancelled him altogether as a late boss dood.
@5h0ckblock
@5h0ckblock 3 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing. And since he was scrapped, his key that you would have received from beating him like all the other bosses, was instead given to Vincent Van Gore last minute.
@angelocorradino8720
@angelocorradino8720 3 жыл бұрын
I don't disagree, but also keep in mind that games aren't developed in "chronological order". The beginning of the game isn't developed first, and the end isn't developed last. For example, in Doom, the first level was actually the last level they made.
@magicwindow6682
@magicwindow6682 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if he was an earlier design for a boss like Bogmire that was even more non-human in appearance.
@codezero7981
@codezero7981 2 жыл бұрын
what if elh was your friend and he protected you from the other enemies..
@testerwulf3357
@testerwulf3357 2 жыл бұрын
@@angelocorradino8720 Nintendo seems to do these in order for the most part especially as they used to do demos..and their trailers normally only showcase early stuff meaning they've sorted out the beginning but not the end typically. The fact it wasn't completed means it likely was an older in the timeline concept (if it was going to be around a lot in the game it would of been more finished with variations to make it not as hard in the beginning) but once they made a huge chunk of the game they decided it didn't fit and stopped putting it off picking to instead scrap it. These aren't exactly the standard "run around do whatever" games like doom..these have a story and each part attaches to the plot and needs to go in a set order mostly thus they wouldn't work on the ending first because if they decide to change later parts they'd have to redo it thus wasting time. A game where you run around and kill things can mostly just be done in whatever order. What order a game is made in really depends on the type of game along with the devs making it!
@FlamesOfTheRuined
@FlamesOfTheRuined 3 жыл бұрын
I’d think of Ehl as a blind enemy. One that would wander the map aimlessly and loom the halls with a ghastly moan. If you hear the moan, you need to hide. If you make too much notice when it’s looming close by, it will go on the defense and attack aimlessly with the elements it wields. Since it can’t see, if you remain still for a while, it will move on. Eventually, you would have to lure Ehl into an area which would stun or immobilize it, allowing its cage-like body to expose an item you needed and you could grab it before it collect itself and continue moving on. When Ehl shows up, the music goes deaf, leaving the only sound being the creature shuffling slowly around, gasping and moaning. The louder it gets, the closer it is. Opening doors, knocking on objects, using the game boy horror, etc. would draw in Ehl’s attention, but using the vacuum would cause Ehl to make a B-line straight to Luigi, making use of the vacuum a risky move if you need to suck up something like a key to move on before Ehl gets too close.
@deltamills5641
@deltamills5641 2 жыл бұрын
So the monsters from a quiet place but with a scary music piece playing in the background?
@FlamesOfTheRuined
@FlamesOfTheRuined 2 жыл бұрын
@@deltamills5641 pretty much, only instead of scary music, it’s only the sounds from Ehl, giving you an idea how far away it is from your position based on the volume of its sounds. If the background music stops playing while you’re exploring, either stay put, or risk it by moving somewhere else. Keep quiet, and it will move on. Make too much noice, it will track you down. Overdo it, and it will make a beeline towards you. It could be an instant kill too if it attacks, making its presence all the more terrifying, though I guess that would be on a hard game difficulty. If it’s on a normal or easy mode, Ehl will not be as sensitive to sounds you make and not deal as much damage. Think of it like a cross between (as you mentioned) A Quiet Place Monster, Lady Dimitrescu, and the SA-X from Metroid Fusion.
@ghastzly_9978
@ghastzly_9978 2 жыл бұрын
Like the minecraft warden?
@guu830
@guu830 Жыл бұрын
Thats fucking terrifying to think about ngl
@evil778
@evil778 Жыл бұрын
The sound of that would make perfect sense, the way you described the horrible moaning, the stopping of the music, the sense of true horror and terror, it sounds like Nintendo would've scrapped it since it would definitely be way too scary for kids. And I'm not being a Karen, either. I've heard of kids who were afraid of Chauncey in Luigi's Mansion, of all things.
@TheFoolish727
@TheFoolish727 3 жыл бұрын
About ELH blocking certain area doors, it would make sense for him to be defeated by elements,, so that Luigi could unlock the doors, but also I think the slam attack that ELH uses when Luigi gets near could have been replaced by the spikes hurting Luigi, and knocking him back in the final game
@soulslvr9562
@soulslvr9562 3 жыл бұрын
With all this talk bout Elh it makes me wonder if anyone has asked the developers about this thing
@gabopr1365
@gabopr1365 3 жыл бұрын
fair point
@TheInauspiciousOre
@TheInauspiciousOre 3 жыл бұрын
Knowing franchise fans someone probably has
@takanamoon9907
@takanamoon9907 3 жыл бұрын
@The Master of Mario And?
@liquiditya
@liquiditya 3 жыл бұрын
@The Master of Mario What did they say?
@rainyrainr3571
@rainyrainr3571 3 жыл бұрын
@The Master of Mario did they tell you anything then?
@averyshurts4402
@averyshurts4402 3 жыл бұрын
So, I think the most likely thing is that elh was a sort of “testing ghost.” I would assume he would be used to test the elements, movement, as well as even spawning, which would explain the animations/functions tied to him. If they got that working, then maybe they even used him as a placeholder ghost to fill the mansion while they worked on other ghosts.
@AnoChrome
@AnoChrome 3 жыл бұрын
It’s funny how a random npc that DIDNT make it into the playable game winds up getting more love and attention than ones that do show up in the game.
@RealActuallFish
@RealActuallFish Жыл бұрын
W.D Gaster.
@Nick-yq5uz
@Nick-yq5uz 3 жыл бұрын
He looks like he belongs to the bogmire part of the game
@aquabluerose7734
@aquabluerose7734 3 жыл бұрын
Omg I was thinking maybe Elh was the original design for what became Bogmire! He would fit it so well, he looks slimy!
@ProtoVee
@ProtoVee 3 жыл бұрын
I love the idea of the Mario items being held by this creature. It could have popped up as you progressed throughout the mansion as a different elemental variation each time, and you could see the Mario item in it's torso as it chased you. You'd probably be incapable of obtaining each item upon first encounter, but after getting the element necessary, you'd know exactly what to do! Maybe this was scrapped because only 3 elements were added and 5 Mario items? Now you've got me wondering...
@ralphbelmondo4495
@ralphbelmondo4495 3 жыл бұрын
I’m pretty sure Elh just would have been a late-game boss that you would need to use different elements to defeat him through multiple phases, or at least a midboss.
@Nikopog
@Nikopog 2 жыл бұрын
This makes all of sense
@James89227
@James89227 3 жыл бұрын
Elh kind of looks like a tree, maybe it could hide in the trees and could act like a chu chu in Zelda when you found it, hiding as a pile of leaves or something…
@silverreaps6803
@silverreaps6803 3 жыл бұрын
You're not outside much in Luigis mansion 1
@PlayerN101
@PlayerN101 3 жыл бұрын
@@silverreaps6803 Probably why he was scrapped then
@James89227
@James89227 3 жыл бұрын
@@silverreaps6803 this was my thought for him being scraped. There was a trail leading into the woods at some point, but it is only accessible by turning off collision. I think the training ghost sounds a lost more like the real thing
@IrisVoid
@IrisVoid 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Elh looks like a tree...a Bonsai/Willow tree to be more specific...to me at least they do. X)
@superminingbro4037
@superminingbro4037 3 жыл бұрын
4:28 Makes me think of when you first encounter Green Tentacle in Maniac Mansion, and you have to give him the bowl of wax fruit and the can of Pepsi to get him to move. Obviously it would be a little less silly and ridiculous in this case, but still.
@landenscott1753
@landenscott1753 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah they'll be like in slime rancher there are these gordo slimes that you have to feed until they explode so you can get keys for Doors
@vii-ka
@vii-ka 3 жыл бұрын
like from riddle school you have to give some food to the fat guy but i forgot what all was
@landenscott1753
@landenscott1753 3 жыл бұрын
@@vii-ka you have to feed him a donut from a vending machine but you only have to feed him
@minegaminglp7380
@minegaminglp7380 3 жыл бұрын
0:47 if that´s how elh was actually supossed to work, then i would think that they scrapped him to not give kids nightmares. like, imagine being chased around the mansion by this creepy thing and knowing it could appear at anytime. that would have terrified me as a kid.
@abluerat7087
@abluerat7087 3 жыл бұрын
It would have also been very annoying
@ghastdude589
@ghastdude589 Ай бұрын
@@abluerat7087 2 years later but more or less annoying than 97,000 ghosts at once during the blackout?
@ducksaucebutagoose925
@ducksaucebutagoose925 3 жыл бұрын
"Elh is real" maybe the game was originally meant to be in peaches castle and you would fight elh in the l is real room Edit: a chaser would actually work amazingly in peaches castle!
@terminalvelocityrunner2202
@terminalvelocityrunner2202 3 жыл бұрын
Personally, I doubt that, but what do I know? I’m only going by the following logic: The ‘L is Real thing’ is more than likely just a texture that looks like a message. Elh is not found anywhere in 64’s code either (to my knowledge). And that’s probably because it’s on a completely different platform… an entirely different console that came out years before Luigi’s Mansion’s development had been started and it’s console released. Also why would a creepy boss fight be in the hub world instead of the ghost house stage… or ANY stage. Never mind the fact that the ‘mysterious message’ in 64 has had virtually nothing uncovered about it that’s led anyone anywhere truly useful for at least twenty something years, give or take a few. (There’s also the fact Elh’s names pronunciation like the first part of ‘Element’ and it had elemental assets associated with it in Luigi’s Mansion’s files, as seen in the video) What I’m saying is that the chances of Elh being anything remotely associated with a vague texture in 64 is so cosmically unlikely that the odds of you surviving being stuck by lightning are notably greater than the odds of this theory being true.
@muffin_the_metalhead3488
@muffin_the_metalhead3488 3 жыл бұрын
omg now i want a Luigi’s Mansion game set in Peach’s Castle. that would rock. you could explore the entirety of her castle and maybe the final boss would be a possessed Peach like how Bowser was kind of the final boss in the original. although possessed Peach has been used a lot. maybe a possessed Mario? oh my god imagine Luigi being forced to fight his own brother. brutal
@ducksaucebutagoose925
@ducksaucebutagoose925 3 жыл бұрын
@@muffin_the_metalhead3488 cool idea!
@evagarcia865
@evagarcia865 2 жыл бұрын
@@muffin_the_metalhead3488 What do you mean Evil Peach has been used a lot? I can only recall her being possessed in Paper Mario: Thousand Year Door.
@muffin_the_metalhead3488
@muffin_the_metalhead3488 2 жыл бұрын
she was also kind of possessed in Origami King. i thought she was possessed a lot more, but i guess it only happened twice. sorry for bad formatting. gotta love mobile KZfaq :P
@bumblebeegamerreal
@bumblebeegamerreal 3 жыл бұрын
Everybody gangsta untill Elh becomes a meme or a mod
@UnicronicHerald
@UnicronicHerald 3 жыл бұрын
mod plz
@damonrichardson1999
@damonrichardson1999 3 жыл бұрын
They have elements scattered throughout the mansion in places that you generally don't stop at too often like the fire in hallways or water in bathroom water tanks. I think they might have originally gave so many chances to use elements in various places to stop him at one point. Rather than being able to permanently defeat him, he would come back every time randomly even in the light. He would be incredibly intimidating in that case. I wish Elh was in the game still without textures because without any texture, it's more jarring to see that thing stalk the halls.
@awakenedcrowl
@awakenedcrowl 3 жыл бұрын
But there's only ONE thing we know for sure: Elh is real. 2401.
@br123tt
@br123tt 3 жыл бұрын
well Luigi does have a unused "fear state" where he walks slower and uses different, more nervous-looking animations so that idea can be modded into the game. maybe
@t1n206
@t1n206 3 жыл бұрын
I think if Elh was in the game, he would act like Bendy in BatIM chapter 3, randomly appearing somewhere in the room you're in at any given time trying to hunt you down until you find a hiding spot. They reminded me of BatIM considering the animation he has where he comes out of the ground.
@Aflay1
@Aflay1 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed, and I think a game like Luigi’s Mansion would find it fitting to have an enemy chasing you, kind of like a similar foe in a certain game that takes place in a mansion.
@pancake248
@pancake248 3 жыл бұрын
I'm gonna disagree with you on that. The developers of Luigi's Mansion never had any intention of scaring the player. In fact, they chose Luigi because he's jumpy and easily spooked. And an enemy that can pop out of nowhere and is unkillable can be pretty nerve racking. I won't deny that a chaser enemy in Luigi's Mansion would be sick, but based on the intentions of the developers, probably not.
@Aflay1
@Aflay1 3 жыл бұрын
@@pancake248 That’s the bizarre thing about the GameCube. They got a lot of stuff right, completely by accident. It’s almost as if Nintendo felt bad for actually making our childhoods good. Weird. Same with like, Ratchet and Clank. They took the one thing, realistic characters that smart talk you and block your way, and turned them all super nice and thanking you and praising you like the messiah, like, good lord. What happened? Did developers just, lose their edge?
@pancake248
@pancake248 3 жыл бұрын
@Harley Blanchette While you make a good point, I was mostly talking about when the enemy goes 'Boo!'
@pancake248
@pancake248 3 жыл бұрын
@@Aflay1 I've only played the first three Ratchet and Clank games and 'A Crack in Time' (PS3 got fucked up and can't read discs anymore so I nevered finished a few of the games.) But yeah, kinda weird. Makes you wonder if developers think we'd cry if a character in a video game said something mean.
@waterwraith3334
@waterwraith3334 3 жыл бұрын
I think that elh was originally gonna be a unkillable chaser enemy like me but the developers realized that it wouldn't work in this kind of game just before finishing the model and animations, so they thought it could be a blocker like the banana lockers in dk64 or that B word in ocarina of time. He would block the door to the graveyard and attack with ice and fire, a hint to use the water elemental attack to destroy him. But the devs thought that wouldn't work either for some reason. Maybe they thought the hint to attack with water was too cryptic (because you wouldn't acquire ice until after getting past him so how would you know that ice is an element you can wield on your 1st playthrough) or his design was too scary for a kids game or something but whatever the reason, he was replaced with the burning door and left unused. What really sold me on this theory was his animations and connection to fire and ice.
@williamdrum9899
@williamdrum9899 8 ай бұрын
My guess is the devs thought ELH would be too confusing so they replaced it with the burning doors in the Kitchen and Tea Room
@jacobtheorangeyoshi8710
@jacobtheorangeyoshi8710 3 жыл бұрын
Elh is such an enigma, it’s pretty interesting
@WayWardWonderer
@WayWardWonderer 3 жыл бұрын
Could "Elh" actually be "E.L.H."? That acronym could stand for something like "Environment" or "Element" or "Load" or "Lock" or "Harbinger" or... "Hank". I don't know, I'm just intrigued!
@brandoncastellano1858
@brandoncastellano1858 3 жыл бұрын
Environmentally - Locked Harbinger. Sounds amazing.
@pickypath246
@pickypath246 3 жыл бұрын
Elemental Loser Hank... the villain to end villains.
@pikmints
@pikmints 3 жыл бұрын
E Gadd's lumbering humanoid. Ethereal Luigi hunter. Elementally languishing hulk. Essential learning helper. Each of these explore different possible use cases/lore for ELH, and can be mixed and matched for similar results.
@brandoncastellano1858
@brandoncastellano1858 3 жыл бұрын
@@pikmints these were fun to read. :)
@brandoncastellano1858
@brandoncastellano1858 3 жыл бұрын
Existence Limiting Horror.
@animelovegaming1796
@animelovegaming1796 3 жыл бұрын
About the chasing like Mr X. thing, maybe Elh can't get into rooms with Toad like how Mr X. can't get into the save rooms in Resident Evil 2.
@bruhford3954
@bruhford3954 3 жыл бұрын
I would love he leaves trial of goo or whatever that thing is behind him indicated he was nearby or not
@animelovegaming1796
@animelovegaming1796 3 жыл бұрын
@@bruhford3954 Maybe that goo trail gets thicker the closer it is to Elh
@aaromertojoki8749
@aaromertojoki8749 3 жыл бұрын
What if Elh was like bonus when you beat the game Elh apears and when you beat it you get Mario.
@skeletonman1126
@skeletonman1126 3 жыл бұрын
M is real
@dillon8124
@dillon8124 3 жыл бұрын
I really like the idea of his torso being a cage with an item in it
@thatflareon
@thatflareon 3 жыл бұрын
Elh could be something in a RE game, which now makes me imagine if Luigi's Mansion was LIKE RE and now I wanna make that
@muffin_the_metalhead3488
@muffin_the_metalhead3488 3 жыл бұрын
the original was kind of Nintendo’s answer to Resident Evil. the animations of Luigi opening doors gives me RE vibes.
@tanthenotquiteman
@tanthenotquiteman 3 жыл бұрын
I think the theory about him being a path-blocker is most likely.
@landenscott1753
@landenscott1753 3 жыл бұрын
What about attacking animations path blockers don't have those.
@pancake248
@pancake248 3 жыл бұрын
@@landenscott1753 Well, some path blockers do deal damage. Maybe it was more of a 'stay away' attack rather than an attack meant for killing.
@tanthenotquiteman
@tanthenotquiteman 3 жыл бұрын
@@pancake248 ^
@landenscott1753
@landenscott1753 3 жыл бұрын
I didn't think about that maybe it would do 1 damage and have lots of knock back
@tanthenotquiteman
@tanthenotquiteman 3 жыл бұрын
@@landenscott1753 true
@ricardocantoral7672
@ricardocantoral7672 3 жыл бұрын
Elh deserves his own channel.
@marshmallow9947
@marshmallow9947 3 жыл бұрын
@Elh 😂
@ricardocantoral7672
@ricardocantoral7672 3 жыл бұрын
@Elh I AM NOT WORTHY !
@silverreaps6803
@silverreaps6803 3 жыл бұрын
@Elh oh damn
@fink3262
@fink3262 3 жыл бұрын
Elh being a stalker-type enemy would have been a very cool concept and very fitting too considering Luigi's Mansion seems to have been heavily inspired by Resident Evil. Not sure it would have really meshed well with the game's movement though.
@lasercraft32
@lasercraft32 Жыл бұрын
If only the hallways and rooms were bigger... then it probably would've worked better.
@ghastdude589
@ghastdude589 Ай бұрын
2 years later but you know the right side of the top area of the Foyer where a door COULD have been? A loop like this (and other loops, like the door you unlock with the treadmill key in Biff Atlas' room) would make the idea of a chaser enemy more than plausible
@brandondriver99
@brandondriver99 3 жыл бұрын
What if Elh was a ghost trying to help luigi? He would Box Luigi out of a certain dangerous area, but wasn't aggressive
@zhankazest
@zhankazest 2 жыл бұрын
im pretty sure theres an attack animation though that doesnt make your theory automatically invalid though, there could be an explanation for it
@brandondriver99
@brandondriver99 2 жыл бұрын
@@zhankazest ah yes. Fair point
@lcr8962
@lcr8962 3 жыл бұрын
I've never played the original Luigi's Mansion, nor do I know how powerful the Gamecube was, so this might be wrong, but anyway. What if Elh was meant to keep the player from going out of bounds? Maybe you were able to access the forest around the back of the mansion at some point, or something similar, and when you went too far, Elh would pop out of the ground to make sure you stayed in bounds. Something similar to the Ghost Leviathan from Subnautica.
@landenscott1753
@landenscott1753 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah but the ghost leviathans we're not very good at their job as soon as you build a base in the void they're done for
@ConcernedCivilian
@ConcernedCivilian 3 жыл бұрын
More on the chasing idea, what if he appeared in hallways and non important rooms (rooms without boss fights) while they were still dark, but once a room is cleared he can’t spawn? What if to escape the chase, Luigi had to enter a cleared room?
@BrainExpansion
@BrainExpansion 3 жыл бұрын
I think Elh was an enemy that could've spawned in the final fight to spice the difficulty of the final boss. Maybe it also had a 50/50 percent chance of spawning with either an fire or ice element, and those elements was needed to stop an attack or something like that.
@williamdrum9899
@williamdrum9899 8 ай бұрын
I think you're onto something here. I always thought it was odd that during the fight, when Bowser's head is knocked off, he spits ice balls at you rather than fire. I get that Bowser is trying to freeze Luigi to stop him from vacuuming, but wouldn't fireballs be just as effective in that regard?
@Brownie028
@Brownie028 3 жыл бұрын
As I said before. I firmly beleive Luigi's mansion was supposed to be a spoof esc game, of Resident Evil. So Elh being a chaser completely makes sense
@SterbsMcGurbs
@SterbsMcGurbs 3 жыл бұрын
And that's why sticking items into a funky sidestepping blob ghost will always be one of my Pixel Portals.
@donaldthescotishtwin
@donaldthescotishtwin 3 жыл бұрын
Elh would’ve been Luigi’s answer to Mr X
@thanostrollakiss
@thanostrollakiss 3 жыл бұрын
i dunno but my theory is that ehl worked like the polterpup and the polterkitty. When you get an important item for example, elh would emerge and steal it. he would have 3 different phases. the first would require fire the second water and the third one ice... its kind of a bad theory but... i thought it would make sense
@fakesmile172
@fakesmile172 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe Elh could've been a lategame reoccurring miniboss holding a key or something
@jmporkbob
@jmporkbob 3 жыл бұрын
What if Elh becomes real in 2401? 🤔
@squidpile
@squidpile 3 жыл бұрын
Guess we have to wait for 2398 games then
@diegone080
@diegone080 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe January 2024
@boothgoodies6348
@boothgoodies6348 2 жыл бұрын
Back on that forest theory Swanky talked about, I think Elh could have been like a think where if you travel into the woods far enough, Elh would chase you towards the mansion and force you inside, I also think that Elh would use the Ice it is linked to to Lock certain doors to prevent you from going to different places, depending on how much you angered it. Also maybe if you went outside too much, It would chase you inside the building and force you to have to find a Fire or Ice attachment to defeat it, Depending on which it was using. You could then travel into the woods and discover a secret or something idk.
@veleroxin107
@veleroxin107 3 жыл бұрын
Game theory, what if Elh was just a prototype bogmire?
@danieldunkum8394
@danieldunkum8394 3 жыл бұрын
Here we go again 😎 I somehow can’t get enough of this “being” in the beta
@WforWill
@WforWill 3 жыл бұрын
To be honest he looks like the purple goo enemy in dark moon.
@samuelsabourin5938
@samuelsabourin5938 2 жыл бұрын
He looks nothing like the creeper
@YanntastischGER
@YanntastischGER Жыл бұрын
I personally think Elh would've been a tutorial boss to show you the elements. Since his leftover code mainly has him using the elements against Luigi, together with the (seemingly) fact you wouldn't have been able to suck him up, so maybe instead shoot the elements at him. Also he seems to be very immobile with his goopy walk, so having him as a tutorial enemy makes more sense. Or a slow chaser. I liked that idea too.
@deathclaw3692
@deathclaw3692 2 жыл бұрын
I just love the Nemesis energy that Elh produces! He seems like the kind of enemy that makes you YEET out of the room when you see him
@captaindapperprime
@captaindapperprime 2 жыл бұрын
What if elh stood for something like “egad lab helper” or something like that where it’s a ghost that would help you like how the ghosts are friendly in dark moon what if the cage in its chest could be used to trap boos in place or what if the elements we see elh have could have been used to give you elements like if you needed water to put out the fire in the kitchen elh could give it to you. I’m probably way off but I think elh is a weird name so I think it’s an abbreviation for something.
@daninbox
@daninbox 3 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of Metroid Dread.
@switchcapturebutton
@switchcapturebutton 3 жыл бұрын
E.M.M.I
@Thundra1000
@Thundra1000 3 жыл бұрын
Lol
@I_Still_Exist
@I_Still_Exist 3 жыл бұрын
I'll try to piece this together the best I can. Elh is an abbreviation, E.L.H. What it stands for is unknown, but my guess is Elementally Limiting Horror. This would imply that you would not be able to use Elements against it, making it almost immortal. You would get it to use it's body slam attack and then strike at E.L.H until they leave. They would pursue you, blocking certain areas that you haven't unlocked yet. It would be a late game enemy. It would be finally battled in the graveyard, due to the root like cage in it's chest and leaf-like hands. It would contain an item in the cage, possibly a Mario item. Using these clues, my guess is that E.L.H. would be a reoccurring boss that chases you, blocking areas that you haven't unlocked. Their final fight would be at the graveyard, giving you the fire element and a Mario item to go along with it.
@geistgrace6452
@geistgrace6452 3 жыл бұрын
I just realized that 3 of the 4 keys are given out by major boss ghosts. The Van-gore fight always felt too easy to me, considering he's one of the last "fights", and give the diamond key, which always felt anticlimactic. Looking at Ell, his design kinda reminds me of those abstract art pieces. Perhaps Ell could have been one of Van-gores last creations, and worked as a major boss after capturing him making Van-gore live up to that hype of "Ghost creator" Hear me out. After defeating Van-gore, instead of the normal lights coming on, the lights turn purple, you'd walk up to the chest spawned in the middle of the room and a cutscene plays, Luigi is about to open the chest when it's suddenly engulfed, as Ell rises from the ground. The creature then hops into the painting Van-gore was working on as Luigi gives chase leading to a Boss arena with A fountain, And one of those furnaces used to make glass in. Each one spouting the respective element. Luigi would have to alternate between elements in order to melt away at the beast so he could reach the chest. The creature could summon walls of fire and ice to hide behind and would sidestep to hit Luigi with beams of Ice and fire should the player try exploiting this mechanic. After defeat the monster would just fade away, dropping the chest. After returning, E.Gadd would call Luigi astonished at the discovery of such a bizarre ghost, realizing there are many ghosts yet undiscovered, and he must be the one to do so. Allowing Luigi to return to the Lab after getting the chest so he could try to salvage any remnants the Ghost left on it ( giving Luigi the key as a "thank you" ), which would also allow the player a breather and chance to prepare for king boo. Yeah, I Know it's kinda stupid and wouldn't work that well, but stranger things have happened.
@Jetfox967
@Jetfox967 3 жыл бұрын
So Elh would have been the Luigi Mansion’s version of Mr. X and Nemesis
@autism21918
@autism21918 3 жыл бұрын
This ghost could slowly lose your sanity
@PosthumanHeresy
@PosthumanHeresy 2 жыл бұрын
I think the one thing to observe is that Elh is a heavy attacker. Two large arms from above in a brutal, slow attack. So he was heavy. That's useful to note, because it gives an idea of what the textures could have been.
@burritocat6038
@burritocat6038 3 жыл бұрын
I think Elh was gonna be some sort of Easter egg, like if you look through a window he’ll be their, doing something, for if your on the balcony, out in the distance, he’s in the grave yard or out in the front of the mansion, I can’t explain the attack animations or elements though...
@Keegstar
@Keegstar 3 жыл бұрын
So pretty much luigis mansion would be sonic adventure: Amy only edition
@specialk5812
@specialk5812 2 жыл бұрын
Not entirely what's most interesting about the character, but the "el" in the character's name Elh probably stands for element. Maybe the full name would be something like, "Elemental Hazard". Just what came to mind for me.
@theelementalgamer5910
@theelementalgamer5910 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe the E and L are separate, so it's something like 'Elemental Locking Hazard'?
@bk7064
@bk7064 3 жыл бұрын
2:12. Hey that's my comment! Thanks for mentioning my comment man. Always love me some Luigi's Mansion! 👍
@doctorwhooves6510
@doctorwhooves6510 3 жыл бұрын
Swanky, when I heard the one theory about the abdomen being used to contain something plus the purser enemy theory, it got me thinking personally: What if Elh was a ghost that was supposed to hold Mario's Power Star that you find in the Observatory and chase you around and back to E. Gadd's lab after beating the boss ghosts or hitting certain story checkpoints - like freeing the Boos and King Boo from the basement? It could easily explain how the ghost would be able to use both the Fire and Ice Elements - considering the strength of Power Stars in the Mario series in general - and you couldn't defeat it unless you got a certain item in the late game or got all three Elemental Medals. But that's just my thought.
@EveTanooki
@EveTanooki 3 жыл бұрын
Dumb idea: he’s the like progress stopper but he’s friendly and he’s just like: hey buddy you probably shouldn’t go here since I don’t think you’re powerful enough. Like the fortune teller!
@kaithekat7057
@kaithekat7057 3 жыл бұрын
Is... Elh... An acronym??? Like Element Luigi Helper or something???
@ralphbelmondo4495
@ralphbelmondo4495 3 жыл бұрын
Probably not...
@lasercraft32
@lasercraft32 Жыл бұрын
Perhaps Elh _was_ going to be a pursuing enemy, maybe during the blackout part... but then was cut out for being too scary. I heard somewhere that when they were designing Luigi's Mansion, they wanted to scare _Luigi,_ but not the player. So, to the player the game isn't all that scary, but from Luigi's perspective it would be.
@rumor-936
@rumor-936 2 жыл бұрын
I remember a few years back talking to someone who had a mate who was part of the development team, or so they claimed. Apparently during the secret/mirrored mansion there was supposed to be a unique enemy who could randomly spawn in certain rooms. One of the unused sounds in the game belonged to this monster but they never got far with designing it's attacks and weaknesses. Not sure how much of the truth they were telling though, nor did they ever specify if it was Elh.
@epicblade2791
@epicblade2791 3 жыл бұрын
what if there was a way to get into the deleted part and Elh was there chasing you or maybe Elh comes for trees he looks like 1 he could have been hiding and when you would be in the forest it would could out of nowhere and chase you out
@haikarawalker6996
@haikarawalker6996 3 жыл бұрын
What if his lack of a texture is intentional and he’s just an almagamate style thing
@Sasukeheart2
@Sasukeheart2 2 жыл бұрын
this entire vid is Swanky going "haha...but what if?" and getting me every time
@Star_Mans_Legacy
@Star_Mans_Legacy 2 жыл бұрын
I’m glad to see you still doing Luigi’s Mansion analysis Videos :) My favorite kind~! 😊
@KodyCrimson
@KodyCrimson 3 жыл бұрын
If they did another remaster/remake of the game, he should be added back as a new mode for replaying the game. That'd be a sick way to have the game be reinvented. Having him sometimes appear in the dark areas (with him disappearing in the lit up rooms). That'd make him a nightmare to deal with once the blackout happens.
@mylanpicornot4114
@mylanpicornot4114 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, they should put him in that game mode that makes the mansion harder (I believe it's mirror mode, you unlock it after winning the game once,) and he would chase luigi through the mansion during the blackout until he fixes the lights
@ohnothimagen224
@ohnothimagen224 3 жыл бұрын
Elh Is Real...
@williamfrieden1
@williamfrieden1 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, for sure, it would have been interesting if elh did that if he was included in the game. Keep up the great work!
@aliteralbear9682
@aliteralbear9682 3 жыл бұрын
I like the idea of elh being a nemesis type character.
@jamespennington6428
@jamespennington6428 3 жыл бұрын
Elh might not be white and have a texture because he doesn’t look good with the mansion
@handsomeharold4698
@handsomeharold4698 3 жыл бұрын
I LITERALLY WATCHED THE PREVIOUS ELH VIDEO RIGHT BEFORE THIS
@SirBoomster
@SirBoomster 3 жыл бұрын
I love all the theories, such clever minds!
@goroakechi235
@goroakechi235 2 жыл бұрын
I have an idea for Elh. What if throughout part of the game all it does is stalk you. Just watch you. Until the blackout. Where something seems off. No ghost are appearing. Like they're afraid of something. Luigi thinks that he finally scared the ghost away. But no. Because it's in total darkness that Elh comes out to play. He starts chasing Luigi all throughout the mansion. Killing you instantly if you get caught. There is no way of defeating him. You can only get rid of him by turning the lights back on.
@KyogresHideout_Vegito2121
@KyogresHideout_Vegito2121 3 жыл бұрын
Elh is real 2401
@UwUFloofyKittenoWo
@UwUFloofyKittenoWo 2 жыл бұрын
this growing move could also be him sucking a power from the ground like fire or water to throw at you
@sophiemorgan9989
@sophiemorgan9989 3 жыл бұрын
Yes more luigi’s mansion content!! This is amazing
@paxtonthegamer2217
@paxtonthegamer2217 3 жыл бұрын
i’m never thinking about the luigi’s mansion games again
@silverwolfgamer4100
@silverwolfgamer4100 2 жыл бұрын
The design of Elh reminds me a bit of Bogmire for its unique creepiness, but the elemental attacks seem very late game, as if Boolossus. Perhaps he was an early Bogmire/ Boolossus
@grayshores5264
@grayshores5264 3 жыл бұрын
I love Elh’s design. The textureless goopy ghost is really really cool. I wish Nintendo would bring Elh back.
@pixelator5312
@pixelator5312 3 жыл бұрын
i feel like it could be a combination of two of the points here: you have to chase it down to get a key item (perhaps a literal key), and then it chases after you, so you have to scramble to the correct door before it catches you and knocks the key out of you, reclaiming it
@leonardopoltergust9248
@leonardopoltergust9248 3 жыл бұрын
I had a dream that was like the Elh outdoor chase, so with this theory in mind: it would have possibly made it very scary for the younger audience, so it was scrapped. This could be a logical answer
@leonardopoltergust9248
@leonardopoltergust9248 3 жыл бұрын
@The Master of Mario cool, will there be a download link?
@leonardopoltergust9248
@leonardopoltergust9248 3 жыл бұрын
@The Master of Mario when you make a trailer video, I think you can copy the URL of that modded game and paste it in the description, I don’t have the right answer for this, sorry
@leonardopoltergust9248
@leonardopoltergust9248 2 жыл бұрын
@The Master of Mario I hope you do well! I also can’t wait to see my nightmare in reality, that would be so cool!
@Wesley-76
@Wesley-76 3 жыл бұрын
I enjoy jumping into Theoryland. One of the reasons why I'm subscribed!
@StoryTeller796
@StoryTeller796 3 жыл бұрын
So, I like all of these theories though I do have an idea to combine all of these into one idea, and further expand them. What if he was like the big guy version of a group of Goopy ghosts, like Gooigi and Bogmire. What if there was a small version of him, a medium version of him, the big guy, a demonstration version of him, a pursuer version, and a trapper. So, lore part. What if they were like buddies of the Boos, when E. Gadd looked at that he thought to himself "Why not adopt one myself". Heck, those Sky Valley Heck Ghosts that were in Super Mario Galaxy? What if Elh was one of them? So he went and followed the Boos out of the Mansion and saw an entire civilization talking to them out in a part of the woods during a certain time as some go with Boos, and others are just living out their lives separate from King Boo and Egad. This was how he accidentally bumped into a rare version of them, which starts an entire series of adventures that I think deserve to rather be animated than be written in a black-and-white comment though it basically has to do with the fact that he accidentally started an entire war with the isolated boos and these goopy enemies. This all boils down to E. Gadd getting the Elh we all have seen in the code, and having him be the main head of his research team. He is also a tutorial ghost and helps teach you how to face the goopy pursuer enemies, the Trappers, the blockers and also helps teach you about the elements. (maybe we could implement the Dark Moon as a rare global event, with the valley being the only place it constantly happens, or even some other areas, with the original Mansion quite possibly being E. Gadds center of pure research. I mean, theoretically speaking maybe that is why he is always everywhere near King Boo, because he constantly "Let's him out accidentally" and he never had a track record of being sane, though I am going off-topic here trying to justify and present all my theories when I should be making them into videos)
@StoryTeller796
@StoryTeller796 3 жыл бұрын
@The Master of Mario I just love huge games with big features, with a lot of quality and quantity. I just want to immerse myself in the games. So the actual possibility that there could have been another Mario character that could have added so much just kind of makes me thirst for that reality, and yet it would take so long for the reality to come true.
@Ridlay_
@Ridlay_ 2 жыл бұрын
So many cool stuff, I would love for this lad to have been incorporated somehow, especially if it added to this darker tone. Like something that chases you would be intense.
@sagacious03
@sagacious03 3 жыл бұрын
Neat video! Thanks for uploading!
@weebsquit347
@weebsquit347 3 жыл бұрын
I remember this channel had a video of a scrapped area in Luigi's Mansion. Some sort of cave or something. Maybe Elh was there? Alternatively, i think it would've been interesting if Elh was an enemy that randomly appeared and chased you down only during the blackout section, similar to the ghost in the beta that appeared and scared luigi in the halls. The Gameboy Horror radar used to detect normal ghosts too after all.
@taronimus0074
@taronimus0074 2 жыл бұрын
The Elth is named „luigis murder“ in the files. I think this opens the way for much more theories
@flother4834
@flother4834 Жыл бұрын
Idea for the chaser theory: what if the heart the normally shows up in ghosts was split into two in the cage. like its melted like plastic on to the two cage parts but its torn, and you have to use the ice thing to put it back together to suck it into your poltergust 3000
@Meepster_836
@Meepster_836 3 жыл бұрын
Proto Vee's comment made me think. You know how the early versions of the game were creepy and had some sort of time mechanic? What if ehl WAS mario. Instead of mario turning into a painting, he slowly hecame more deformed as time passed, chasing you down and becoming a bigger and bigger threat. It's just speculation of course. But the whole mario being a chaser enemy that gets worse over time would also make the player WANT to move fast, not just to save mario and get a better ending, but because the longer they dawdle, the harder it becomes to progress.
@Reclipse_
@Reclipse_ 3 жыл бұрын
Big man swanky is back with another video
@TheCreepypro
@TheCreepypro 2 жыл бұрын
it is fun to think about all the different ways this creature could have been incorporated
@Nikopog
@Nikopog 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe El was what was supposed to appear at the boo sections like the king boo where you need a certain amount of boos and the slam animation is like the animation where Luigi would run away and also spawn you back to the lobby
@guyperson1399
@guyperson1399 3 жыл бұрын
I think that maybe he could morph into Luigi and chase you following your exact movements like cosmic clone Mario
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