How Elise Stefanik went from Trump critic to MAGA loyalist

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The New York Times' Nicholas Confessore joins Morning Joe to discuss Rep. Elise Stefanik, R-NY, and how she 'remade herself into a fervent Trump apologist' and if it will carry her into the future.
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@justayoutuber1906 Жыл бұрын

Once you join a cult, it's hard to get out.

@scabcrawler632 Жыл бұрын

Yeah these lgbtqrsz clowns are in for a rude awakening

@christopherhillman3551 Жыл бұрын

The Cult of Woke will destroy America.

@fredgarvinMP Жыл бұрын

She got away from the Democrats though.

@GivePeaceAChance12 Жыл бұрын

Stefanik wants power, plain and simple!

@colowyowatchman4420 Жыл бұрын

@Jebus Hypocristos and what evidence do uou have to back up this outrageous claim?

@arturoochoa7237 Жыл бұрын

Yes -- she is just another ORANGE MAGA CULT member.

@christopherhillman3551 Жыл бұрын

Maybe Elise Stafanik would like NYC to have a Economy and knows the Democrats are ruining the Economy.

@steveperyer4850 Жыл бұрын

ColoWyo Watchman, I happen to be one of the many Citizens in her District, who has seen her disrespect many of the voters, buy doing exactly what she wants, and not trying to compromise, has not helped Veterans or the many farmers, but she claims that she does. She claims that she is responsible for many things that have happed, and credits herself to accomplishing them, when it was many others that did the work, just like some other politicians who are now in trouble. They days she is defeated, is the first day, this area, will breath better, and can hopefully find the things done that need to be accomplished to get this area more inline with what this country is.

@atrocchia Ай бұрын

She wants to make a name for herself at any cost.

@francisbacon7738 Жыл бұрын

She sold her soul to the devil.

@harryjove9687 Жыл бұрын

And Dementia Quid Pro Joe is DESTROYING our nation

@amywalker7515 Жыл бұрын

Her continued support of Trump is going to be her downfall.

@vangiaido1285 Жыл бұрын

As Saint Paul from Christian persecutor. Pro Abortion people sold their souls.

@scabcrawler632 Жыл бұрын

@@amywalker7515 you love Trump so much ❤

@magaareinbredhillbillies Жыл бұрын

MAGA loyalist = RINO

@thepatriot1613 Жыл бұрын

Make an example of her and any future traitors that are against the U.S constitution .

@scabcrawler632 Жыл бұрын

We are doing that to you. Check out antifa getting domestic terrorist charges down in georgia👌

@t.r.campbell6585 Жыл бұрын

She supported the American people and supported the constitution. Look at what we have on our side with people wanting to pack the Supreme Court and limit free speech. If we take a serious and scholarly look at the two sides I believe we have met the enemy and he is us. We need to begin to realize that our progressive financial policy is that we have relied on in the past are now damaging to hard-working Americans and the American economy. Nothing good has happened the last two years for the American people who are struggling now to put food on the table. Senior citizens have to decide if they can afford to take their medication or if they can afford to eat.

@thedissidentleftist6997 Жыл бұрын

@@t.r.campbell6585 limit free speech? That was one ugly ugly period of time. During trump terms Republicans was openly bragging about destroying all leftists. Why do you think CIA/FBI reacted like that?

@markmierzejewski9534 Жыл бұрын

@@t.r.campbell6585 Conservatism is the fundamental antithesis of what it means to be American scholarly speaking that is. When our nation on the ideals of " In search of a more perfect union " not I am happy with the status quo. All Conservatism is the aversion to progress and change. Todays issue is summed up to cause and effect. People forget and praise Trump for inheriting Obamas economy, stability.. they are upset at Biden for everything that Trump left him. How do you feel the nation was when Trump left office? Last I checked 10 years of economic growth ended with him.

@chuck_in_socal Жыл бұрын

@@t.r.campbell6585ailed it. The Democratic Party is no longer the party of the workers. It’s the party of the big city dwellers and high tech workers.

@privatename3621 Жыл бұрын

Elise Stefanik is that girl you remember from middle or high school that would pretend to be your friend, then later you would discover that she was just pretending and then talking sh*t about you and revealing your secrets to other people. People who know Elise well from years past say she always tries to say what she thinks other people want to hear. That is exactly how a backstabber behaves. The classic phrase "she'll step over the dying body of her own grandmother to get what she wants" would apply to her exactly. And she likely would be the reason for the demise of her grandmother if she stood in her way.

@thomasallen6980 Жыл бұрын

She is my parent's Rep. she comes to the district once a year. She says the right thing to make the military (Fort Drum) and the border fearful (Montreal) scared enough to vote for her. I think she is a pathetic carpetbagger. She is safe as long as she keeps talking the hate talk. The key to getting her out is from within her own party. She is a spoiled rich kid who has everything handed to her.

@blotski Жыл бұрын

The type who would unplug your life-support machine to charge her phone.

@arturoochoa7237 Жыл бұрын

What a disgraceful and pathetic individual.

@ReformedRepublican Жыл бұрын

@@blotski Great analogy.I have unfortunately known a couple of those in my lifetime. Some l think would pull my life support to charge their phone so they could tell all the bad gossip about me!!!.

@christopherhillman3551 Жыл бұрын

Now the U.S. is going into a recession with high inflation. That has influenced people like Elise Stafanik. Get off the Democrat Plantation.

@davidclark573 Жыл бұрын

Stefanik is an example of what went wrong with the republican party.

@eternalskeptic Жыл бұрын

Cultists gonna cult.

@douglasreagan4979 Жыл бұрын

Biden and his Dementia deniers.

@paulkern7229 Жыл бұрын

just goes to show what people will do for power...

@douglasreagan4979 Жыл бұрын

Lie? Take money from FTX and Soros. Grift money from Russia, China and Ukraine like the Biden's? Inside trade like the Pelosi's?

@paulkern7229 Жыл бұрын

@@douglasreagan4979 - oh, look - it's another RW shitroll.

@parrisprice5892 Жыл бұрын

To stay in office, do literally nothing ,while sucking from the public trough all she can get

@johndowner2196 Жыл бұрын

Stefanik sold out to get Cheney's old job as #3 in the House Republican hierarchy

@phantommensa Жыл бұрын

She saw an opening in the party power structure and made her move. And now she's caught in that old saying, "Power corrupts! Absolute power corrupts absolutely! " She's not the first person to get caught up in the political power game, and sadly, she won't be the last!

@spocksvulcanbrain Жыл бұрын

Someone with a huge bank account got to her. Follow the money!!!!!

@scabcrawler632 Жыл бұрын

I followed fauci's money and you would be surprised

@douglasreagan4979 Жыл бұрын

From FTX and Sam Bankman-Fried? Soros? Pelosi's insider trading deals? Biden family influence peddling scheme? How does she make her money? Probably honestly.

@spocksvulcanbrain Жыл бұрын

@@scabcrawler632 Not really. I didn't think you'd find anything fishy. Thanks for checking that out.

@nonsibi1087 Жыл бұрын

Elise Stephanik (R) has her 'double' in Kristen Sinema (I). Both rose to elected office campaigning on progressive and socially aware issues. And both betrayed their constituencies when given a path to power & riches that their former pattern didn't offer. Sinema won't actually join the Republican Party because then she would be just one among others in the herd. She makes sooo very much more corporate $$$money playing her game. “When avarice takes the lead in a state, it is commonly the forerunner of its fall.” ― Alexander Hamilton.

@LaoGanMaNiac Жыл бұрын

Elise Stefanik did not get elected on progressive or socially aware issues, WTAF. She got elected running on repealing Obamacare and reducing gov't regulations. So progressive. She was the youngest woman ever elected to Congress, at the time. Don't get it twisted

@LaoGanMaNiac Жыл бұрын

Also, on "defending the Constitution", but articulated only as "protecting the 2A". She sucks, always has. She was a sh*tty Republican now she's a sh*tty MAGA.

@nonsibi1087 Жыл бұрын

@@LaoGanMaNiac Thanks for the info! Clearly, I need to know more about this POS.

@christopherhillman3551 Жыл бұрын

The Federal Government takes approximately 30 cents out of every dollar right now. The Democrats are turning America into a 3rd World Country and people like Elise Stafanik have finally figured that out. Defund the Police, CRT, and trying to crush Freedom of Speech isn't helping America either.

@nonsibi1087 Жыл бұрын

@@christopherhillman3551 Of course, none of that is true. I would be grateful if you would be so good as to provide us with your sources. What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence.

@jillionairess Жыл бұрын

She has the same "the lights are on but no one is home" look in her eye as Trump.

@jockyoung4491 Жыл бұрын

She's intelligent, but she seems to have shut it off for now.

@bobloblaw6570 Жыл бұрын

Does she get lost each time she's on stage, like ectoplasmic Brandon does?

@jessicak2811 Жыл бұрын

@@bobloblaw6570 who's "ectoplasmic Brandon"- and why (or how moreso) is he "ectoplasmic"??

@TRE45ON.is.Bat5hit.Crazy.U.S.G Жыл бұрын

I've to give Donnie Boy and his minions some credit. He has managed to give material to both History and Psych classes for decades to come.. Bigly.

@valeriejean6507 Жыл бұрын

Many dissertations in the future.

@MrZlathan3 Жыл бұрын

I say that this Trump era (if we escape it) should be college course material for the next several centuries as a case study of how close we came to Nazi Germany.

@Carl_Grissom_Sr Жыл бұрын

Democrats don’t know what restroom to use 🤣

@TRE45ON.is.Bat5hit.Crazy.U.S.G Жыл бұрын

@@Carl_Grissom_Sr Ok, ball head one.

@TRE45ON.is.Bat5hit.Crazy.U.S.G Жыл бұрын

@@MrZlathan3 Yeah even if history doesn't repeats sometimes it does runs parallel.

@samhellsing1138 Жыл бұрын

People will turn each other over almost anything. Power, money or trump has something on her she doesn't want getting out.

@laurenwarwick6517 Жыл бұрын

Simple. Named ambition destroyed her ethics.

@jockyoung4491 Жыл бұрын

Some people will sell their souls for power

@yvonneplant9434 Жыл бұрын

She really took a Faustian root!

@bchearne Жыл бұрын

Stefanik never changed her position. Her position was in favor of her own power, and on that she’s been perfectly consistent

@badazzbarbiePOV Жыл бұрын

perfectly stated !

@steveperyer4850 Жыл бұрын

This woman is the worst representative for any people, and unfortunately has been re-elected, to people that don’t know the truth about who she is, and does nothing for her district. She is just hanging on to whatever will give her more power, and will flip again and again. The worst part is she is the representative of my district, in NY. She is a liar about how she helps veterans, and farmers, which are much of the citizens here. 😢

@corcaightowner8881 Жыл бұрын

The gQp is all talk. The lies never end and the fealty to tfg is disgusting. Her re-election says a whole lot about the people who put her there. They are delusional and unamerican.

@christopherhillman3551 Жыл бұрын

What have the Democrats done for NYC? They ruined the Amazon deal, the biggest Commercial deal in the History of NYC. Democrats are ruining NYC.

@privatename3621 Жыл бұрын

I was actually astounded that she was re-elected by New York State constituents, after already showing her true colors and her crazy underbelly of nonsense conspiracy talk. WTF is going on with the people of this country? Fox News has created a mass cult of disinformation getting all these people to think and believe complete nonsense and do dastardly things to our Capitol and our democracy. Rupert Murdoch will go down in history (among others) as being one of the main architects of the demise of American Democracy. And of course, that story may never get told because if democracy fails worldwide, an authoritarian, book-burning, dictator loving, brainwashed American electorate will never hear of such a thing.

@miakodaray8523 Жыл бұрын

I wonder what Trump promised her?

@sharonmontag1330 Жыл бұрын

She got Liz Chaney's seat - third highest in the House

@brianmcnevin1419 Жыл бұрын

What's more astounding is what people see in Trump as a human being, never mind politics.

@colowyowatchman4420 Жыл бұрын

Not everybody is a weak minded person who has been completely brainwashed by msm though

@bman6502 Жыл бұрын

When you’re sitting in the Republican Party and see the free money flowing to MAGA candidates, I guess it’s hard not to want some of that cash….

@christopherhillman3551 Жыл бұрын

Does money flow to Democrat Candidates?

@francisco4194 Жыл бұрын

What about Kimberly Guilfoyle goes from Newsom to Trump Jr.

@TheMajesticice01 Жыл бұрын

It was the cocaine

@lamiagumbo Жыл бұрын

Stefanik is the female version of Mccarthy- anything for power.

@jannibal9273 Жыл бұрын

Both gross embarrassments to what used to be a political party that actually had at least some morals and integrity. No more, sad to say. Those Republicans who actually have morals and believe in our Constitution and the rule of law started leaving the House and Senate in droves once Trump was elected, and the bleed out continues to this day.

@bobloblaw6570 Жыл бұрын

Does she get lost each time she's on stage, like ectoplasmic Brandon does?

@jrrarglblarg9241 Жыл бұрын

MICE: Money, Ideology, Corruption, Ego

@ketanjibrownsfavemolester7592 Жыл бұрын

Now this is a "gem" 👈😁 that went viral, huh ???...

@jrrarglblarg9241 Жыл бұрын

@@ketanjibrownsfavemolester7592 is a foreign sockpuppet troll

@iawhitaker Жыл бұрын

In other words she threw all her intelligence out the window and dumbed down to maga level

@Survivor-dw7we Жыл бұрын

The same can be said for Krysten Sinema, Tulsi Gabbard, and Maria Bartiromo.

@corcaightowner8881 Жыл бұрын

I doubt there is any intelligence worth noting. She is a sell-out.

@bobloblaw6570 Жыл бұрын

Does she get lost each time she's on stage, like ectoplasmic Brandon does?

@petepierre6458 Жыл бұрын

@@bobloblaw6570 You tell us, Bob, does she support someone who has called for the termination of the constitution? Does she support the traitor who incited the attack on Congress while t was trying to carry out a constitutional process?

@pringleberg6826 11 ай бұрын

she's not maga. shes just a grifter for the 💰🤑💸

@gnirolnamlerf593 Жыл бұрын

Three years from now, she'll be asking, "Trump? Donald Trump? Donald J. Trump? I hardly ever met the man. I get my pictures taken with a lot of people." In her case, I don't think that will work. You can be forgiven for being what Trump supporters would today consider to be a RINO if you repent and go all in for Trump. I don't think it works in the other direction. She has to hope she's placed the right bet and we all have to hope she's placed the wrong one.

@elypevets5633 Жыл бұрын

Poor Elise. As a freshman in Congress she couldn't get her ambitions met immediately. Harvard just didn't prepare her for anything like that. So in response she was forced to go crackers. Poor Elise.

@maridambrosio523 Жыл бұрын

Thank you, Joe, for having the best news show on cable. Love you.

@zennbubba Жыл бұрын

whos rating are in the tank.

@Americasinertia Жыл бұрын

Blue sheep are hilarious

@Carl_Grissom_Sr Жыл бұрын

The finest propaganda machine since Adolfs

@johnherold7289 Жыл бұрын

@@zennbubba been watching the fox RIGHT! You know the fox needs a name change to LION news! It's like fake news without all that fake stuff! Besides they're not even clever just LIES but thanks for playing! Congratulations! You win the FAKE tRUMP trading cards! With the FAKE tRUMPy body! Usually 99 REAL dollars! But just pop down to mar o large O, and tell tRUMP, I said you could have all that you can CARRY!

@johnherold7289 Жыл бұрын

@@Americasinertia Congratulations! You win the FAKE tRUMP trading cards! With the FAKE tRUMPy body! Usually 99 REAL dollars! But just pop down to mar o large O, and tell tRUMP, I said you could have all that you can CARRY!

@meinaitong1473 Жыл бұрын

Follow the money

@Airbrushkid Жыл бұрын

How much money did Trump give her?

@rileyhoffman6629 Жыл бұрын

In only five years, Elise gained 20 (plus 300 orange) pounds of delusion and psychosis.

@petepierre6458 Жыл бұрын

When your orange traitor only feasts on KFC & McDOnalds, don't expect anything less!

@6222999 Жыл бұрын

She's now a full fledged member of the Sunshine Carpet Cleaners...

@michaelbray109 Жыл бұрын

Opportunism…

@michaelbray109 Жыл бұрын

Donnie has the best opportunities…so big…very beautiful…terrific some say…

@kennethkirby2533 Жыл бұрын

I am so glad that after 6 years, that congress got to see Trumps taxes. Even better released them to the Public. What we have done sets legal precedence in the court of law. Now the republicans in congress will release many more. Mconnell, Pelosi the list will go on. I would like to see all those elected to office's Tax records. both sides, That you for opening Pandora's Box.

@glidgebidge1029 Жыл бұрын

these people gettin bribed ,and after that juicy bite they gettin blackmailed

@toddfennimore6625 Жыл бұрын

It’s disgusting to see a politician who began as bright and moderate make such a purely political calculation, trashing that integrity in order to gain power. I hope that she ultimately pays for her raw Machiavellian move .

@finnjacobsen684 Жыл бұрын

Show me your friends and I'll tell you who you are. Her flip is no more strange than a Christian becoming a Muslim.

@Dennis-pq3rc Жыл бұрын

Something is happening under the table with Trump.

@trevorlee7945 Жыл бұрын

I would say large sums of money were involved

@antcantcook960 Жыл бұрын

Another great Ivy Laegue product!

@willli8163 Жыл бұрын

She got there on her knees

@douglasreagan4979 Жыл бұрын

Like Heels-up Harris?

@johnherold7289 Жыл бұрын

The g.o.p 's on U.S. or is that a number 2

@johnherold7289 Жыл бұрын

@@douglasreagan4979 Congratulations! You win the FAKE tRUMP trading cards! With the FAKE tRUMPy body! Usually 99 REAL dollars! But just pop down to mar o large O, and tell tRUMP, I said you could have all that you can CARRY!

@willli8163 Жыл бұрын

@@douglasreagan4979 yep

@willli8163 Жыл бұрын

@@douglasreagan4979 I don’t pick sides! I call it like it is

@BillSias-us5fh Жыл бұрын

Simple, she decided to sell out for a path to power.

@jannibal9273 Жыл бұрын

And when she's lying on a hospital bed or a bed in her home with private medical care and breathing her last, that path to power won't have gotten her a thing other than assured damnation from God Almighty.

@BillSias-us5fh Жыл бұрын

@@jannibal9273 first, to even be bothered, you need to believe in a God.

@plymouth491 Жыл бұрын

The real question is "How much did her loyalty sell for?"

@gap949 Жыл бұрын

Wonder when she flips on McCarthy ?

@dianedesrosiers2057 Жыл бұрын

It is terrible thinking some person could flip like this to have power. Indecent republicans.

@diegoclark6832 Жыл бұрын

Hello Diane👋 how are you doing 😊happy new year 🎊.

@sandraullmann5711 Жыл бұрын

They all need to remember that if you sleep with dogs you get fleas.

@diegoclark6832 Жыл бұрын

Hello Sandra 👋 how are you doing 😊happy new year 🎊.

@denisejacks6109 Жыл бұрын

SHE SEE POWER! THATS ALL! SHE WOULD THROW JESUS UNDER THE BUS IF IT MENT HER GETTING POWER!!! THATS ALL THE RED THINKS ABOUT.SICKNING

@Mdebacle Жыл бұрын

Ms. Stefanik made consistent choices. Go where the votes are.

@NASTYNEMOONE Жыл бұрын

Lol have you ever been to NY northern district? It's all hillbillies and prison guards

@justjulzz5940 Жыл бұрын

Cheeto always finds something he can blackmail ppl with.

@corcaightowner8881 Жыл бұрын

It's probably how tfg is able to say and do whatever he wants, he has the dirt on these pond scum.

@elenarhone2078 Жыл бұрын

Elise is an Opportunist period

@louistully3831 Жыл бұрын

I am so sick of these racist MAGA parents against letting their kids attend drag shows 😡

@cissero4 Жыл бұрын

She made the right choice very brilliant lady

@jamess6854 Жыл бұрын

The curse of Trump strikes again.

@harryjove9687 Жыл бұрын

Dementia Quid Pro Joe is DESTROYING the nation

@johnherold7289 Жыл бұрын

The g.o.p 's on U.S. or is that a number 2

@davidwild3888 Жыл бұрын

Same story with two faced flip flopping Vance from Ohio!

@davidalexander3320 Жыл бұрын

She found out how much money was in it. The end.

@jumperpoint Жыл бұрын

Has anyone figured out what they poured in her ear to erase half her mind yet?

@MegaPinky2011 Жыл бұрын

Hey Elise.... how’s trump nowadays 😂🤣

@RubyRay8888 Жыл бұрын

He will sone be back and you all will have a rude awakening. Wait for it. God bless. 🙂

@BrenQ99 Жыл бұрын

Stefanik vouched for Santos during his campaigns. Was she in on the grift, too??

@Mike-nt9sx Жыл бұрын

GATSBY-ESQUE" greatest adjective I've heard in years!

@melindawilliams6624 Жыл бұрын

Geez, I wonder! Uhh, MONEY???

@diegoclark6832 Жыл бұрын

Hello Melinda 👋 how are you doing 😊happy new year 🎊.

@StartAtTheEnd Жыл бұрын

I have had the unfortunate experience of watching pretty much everyone around me, place that same 'bet.' Only they have nothing to gain from it, and much to potentially lose. Yet, they have willfully and willingly chosen to don their blinders, drink the koolaid, and join the cult. It is heartbreaking. So many lives and relationships destroyed by the Republican cult.

@StationRussification Жыл бұрын

It is so nice to have a President that doesn't say Me or I & repeat everything he says 97 times as he speaks. Joe Biden is a class act & will be know as 1 of the Great Presidents in Modern Times not just for how he handled the former Presidents cheating/obstructive attempts/actions but how he has carried himself as President..

@stephensuddick1896 7 ай бұрын

Eventually, someone's true lack of character reveals itself.

@marshmi4672 Жыл бұрын

Real reason: he threatened her and her family, or gave her money.

@wwspic36 Жыл бұрын

Good Elise Stefanik! The future is not Paul Ryan! Maybe she will be Speaker.

@screaminone 9 ай бұрын

Her husband is a member of the gun lobby.

@ngoma Жыл бұрын

She’s power hungry like most of the GOP and just as clueless as the other GOP leadership.

@rburnett6266 Жыл бұрын

She stopped taking her meds ...sad

@sheilalamb9757 Жыл бұрын

Could it be some Black mailing going on..

@diegoclark6832 Жыл бұрын

Hello Sheila 👋 how are you doing 😊happy new year 🎊.

@Shellinois 9 ай бұрын

I feel like Trump has pictures of her.

@nyrobeirruc3019 Жыл бұрын

Now once wants trump.. Only the loyalist

@yonettethomas Жыл бұрын

Follow the money.

@mikekelley2877 Жыл бұрын

It'll be a day to remember when her loyalty to Trump backfires.

@bonedar333 Жыл бұрын

like so many others in politics its not about constituents its about themselves and money, power fame. dark money and corporate donations have corrupted politics. this is a corporate run country we the people ended the day the Supreme Court ruled corporations are people.

@biancalathetravelerssoul Жыл бұрын

It's the cult factor

@parislamour782 Жыл бұрын

She’ll be another Ginni Thomas…when she got to that age.

@jimmyorapello4123 Жыл бұрын

She’s the best

@sallyatticum Жыл бұрын

Follow the money.....

@diegoclark6832 Жыл бұрын

Hello Sally 👋 how are you doing 😊happy new year 🎊.

@alansmith4734 Жыл бұрын

Un-American!

@jackjames9271 Жыл бұрын

Happy NEW YEAR to DONALD Trump 🇺🇸

@doriswilson6453 Жыл бұрын

He paid her 🤣🤣🎂

@ninafresta3400 Жыл бұрын

She missed some genuine, parental love as a child. These men saw a Trump patsy in her, and she is misreading that as self worth, genuine importance. She seems to now be seeking attention from ANYONE. So very pitiful, especially since she has a child/ren.

@myralhf Жыл бұрын

Stefannick is just as disdainful as he is.

@diegoclark6832 Жыл бұрын

Hello Myraihf👋 how are you doing 😊happy new year 🎊.

@RubyRay8888 Жыл бұрын

By God's grace she turned around! 🙂

@pina1508 Жыл бұрын

🤣 really easy to be part of MAGA, on the other hand very difficult to do the right thing. She chose easy!!

@mikevo3974 Жыл бұрын

She sold her soul to the Devil. This won't end well for her.

@raffinee_3763 Жыл бұрын

Perceived opportunity and ambition, period..........

@gabegood8989 Жыл бұрын

power and greed

@shyhumphreys1476 Жыл бұрын

Follow the money & you'll find the answer

@ugokings1260 Жыл бұрын

We need to have standard due responsibilities ,wages ect... people will rebel

@thedissidentleftist6997 Жыл бұрын

A lot of bitter civil wars often determines politics in both parties. It's amazing how different both parties had become in my 40 years based on at least 3 very bitter civil wars.