How Exploding Receiver Market Impacts Ja'Marr Chase & Tee Higgins' Future With Bengals

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Ай бұрын

The Cincinnati Bengals are probably hoping to sign Ja'Marr Chase to a long-term extension this offseason.
James Rapien and Jake Liscow explain how Jaylen Waddle's new contract with the Miami Dolphins impacts Chase's future, what it could mean for Tee Higgins, plus how the new kickoff rule could change the Bengals' approach on special teams and a quality conversation about Sam Hubbard, Myles Murphy, Joseph Ossai and the rest of the Bengals' defensive line.
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@PeytonB390
@PeytonB390 29 күн бұрын
Hey Jake & James! My daughter was born last night & I’ve been listening to a bunch of older episodes of this pod to chill my anxiety about the whole situation out. I really appreciate having such great hosts & people representing my favorite team through this platform. Thank you guys
@charlesh1735
@charlesh1735 29 күн бұрын
Congratulations buddy! Enjoy the special memories of your girl.
@Jatalie409
@Jatalie409 29 күн бұрын
I also listen to this podcast to fall asleep...very comforting and relaxing lol
@johnkammer4754
@johnkammer4754 28 күн бұрын
Congratulations to you,God bless you and your family!!!
@no2_justin
@no2_justin 28 күн бұрын
Congratulations! Many happy & healthy tidings to you and your family.
@Road2Riches1010
@Road2Riches1010 28 күн бұрын
Congratulations 🎉🎊🎈
@dasupastar4lyfe
@dasupastar4lyfe 28 күн бұрын
The only frustrating thing for me is we let Bates and Reader walk for what I thought was in order to pay Tee. If we’re not doing that either, what was the point? Tagging Tee twice would basically mean guaranteeing close to 50 million at that point. You might as well give him a contract at that point.
@connermulloy7428
@connermulloy7428 29 күн бұрын
beard looking great james👍
@lorenzosmith1231
@lorenzosmith1231 28 күн бұрын
would be awesome if Shedrick Jackson shows some potential this offseason as well, would be hard not to like the DL depth in that case
@charlesh1735
@charlesh1735 29 күн бұрын
3 years/ 95 million dollar contract with 80 million in guarantees. That’s roughly 26.5 million in guaranteed money a year and Jamarr is worth every penny. Let’s get it done! If we wait till after Justin Jefferson gets his money it will be over 30 million plus a year.
@derekholt3791
@derekholt3791 27 күн бұрын
That's chases idea, he is waiting for Jefferson deal to get done, he even said he isn't in no hurry yet.That is why Jamar is not in no discussion yet over contract talks. Believe me Cincy would love to get him signed ASAP now before Jefferson, Jaylon Waddle already got his deal done with the dolphins and will now affect both Tee and Jamar so I'm with you on the concern having either of them back.Because this organization lately will spend big on older injured or problematic players rather than keeping their own player that want to stay a Bengal.That has been this organization 's problem since they were introduced in the league in 1969. No wonder we've been on the loosing end, dynasty 's are created by keeping players you drafted, the good ones on long term deals . This way the whole team and organization stay fitted and unified around the league where other great one's that play for other teams want to play for Cincinnati.The culture will also remain the same. I get it ,the brown family needs to open that pocket book right now on players they drafted not free agency.This team right now still has that Superbowl bowl talent around them so they need to invest in growing that pocket book on the team not themselves, the players know and understands what goes on, that is why frustration fumes around the locker room . It then turns contaiges around the team and now the culture and focus on winning becomes a downward spiral. Yes we need Jamar and Tee around , especially Jamar. Not having neither could potentially devastate Joe Burrow . Joe has already suffered enough having to play behind a offensive line that has been rank near dead last his entire career so far. Yet we're still hopeing this on-line can get it together. Even when Andy was playing with out witworth or Kevin Ziegler his performance started to dwindle as the offensive line became a train wreck,having to move players out of their natural positions also made matters worse. That is not how to solve the issues. You pay the players you drafted that perform for you week in and week out when their cheap rookie contracts run out to longer term deals. That is why this team fell off the wagon last season. Not only that our highest most important piece of the whole pie has been swallowed up every game almost,even with the wins doesn't help. So yea we need at least Jamar no matter how much more the next great player out their makes. Yes unfortunately the wait is long, until Jefferson deal gets done will see how bad Jamar wants to remain a Bengal. It will be costly though believe that. So it matters for sure and also now more importantly investing more on the online for the sake and future of Joe and the entire organization. Other wise this whole thing of Superbowl will be just another washed up dream for our city and the Lombardi trophy held up high over our Bengals head.
@ajm82
@ajm82 29 күн бұрын
Bengals are finding out quickly that Star players are expensive to keep. 😓
@charlesh1735
@charlesh1735 29 күн бұрын
Chase will be back soon. You have to play 4 seasons before you can be eligible for free agency and get signed by another team. I think the Bengals know Chase is a big part of the future for the WR room in Cincinnati. He will get paid before the season starts in my opinion. It could come after the season,but why wait when you would have to pay him more money after Jetta gets paid? Just work it out now.
@Road2Riches1010
@Road2Riches1010 28 күн бұрын
3Y/$84.75M is ridiculous!!
@derekholt3791
@derekholt3791 27 күн бұрын
In reality Tee is worth half that, he only has half or less catches,receiving yards,touchdowns and games played than Jefferson.Maybe if he stayed healthy and was available to play 17 games for once in his young career he might just get a bigger contract instead of being tagged.But hell so many players expect more money handed out to them undeserveably.Some dogs bite big but more undeserveably. Tee take notice and sign the tag and go out there and play your ass off then maybe the front office well reconsider . If not other teams will look and acknowledge the fact and situation you were in and pay you the contract you want ,then you can talk. But sitting out of camp and mopping around not giving a F!#@$!?!K. all season will come back to bite you getting that big contract wether it's Cincy or any other team. Don't loose your form you too damn good of a player . This league can easily deflate a player. Stay healthy and sharp and Tee will be ok. to stay hopefully in the Nati Jungle. If not your time in Cincy wasn't wasted if you play 2024 season out because other teams will look to sign you then and your worth depending how well you played out the 2024 season . I hope you do and remain a Bengal your entire career like legendary wr. Issac Curtis .
@bryanlegarretta3404
@bryanlegarretta3404 20 күн бұрын
It was all fun and games when burrow Chase and Higgins were on rookie contracts.. that window is closed. And the defense is still terrible
@louiseregan2498
@louiseregan2498 28 күн бұрын
The writing is on the front office's wall for Tee. It's the same path that Jesse Bates walked when the front office ticketed him. It's been concerning for me, to watch Tee's latest interviews. He comes across as somewhat dazed by the whole situation. Especially in light of his playing last year during OTAs, training camp and the fact he played through a fractured rib. All that's been forgotten. Just like Jesse, Tee wants to stay in Cinci. I'm with Jake, the front office has got to find a way to pay guaranteed money during a player's second contract or the Bengals' star players, their performers will be lost to other teams. Eventually, your stars like DJ Reader, or Mixon will walk out the door. Will Trey Hendrickson be next? The fiasco of the the Jesse Bates story should be remembered. Two years later, the Bengals have recruited how many players to replace Bates? Last year maybe 4 players and the backfield was still a weak link; and this year they've had to recruit 2 more. Where's the savings? And, now they're trying to sign players to replace Reader. Yup, the front office has handle everything with incredible insight, skill and grace. We can't forget the signal Duke sent out last year to Tee when he told other teams to find their own Tee Higgins. Fans like myself took it the Bengals were serious about signing Tee. Was this a-low-down snidely tactic to hold Tee for the Jesse Bates treatment? When you think of the consequences longterm, it is a bit jarring.
@louiseregan2498
@louiseregan2498 28 күн бұрын
Just maybe the front office should include Coach Taylor and the franchise QB, Joe Burrows in these discussions. It was revealed on this podcast earlier that this isn't happening. When the Chiefs need money they renegotiate Patrick's contract. Off the top of my head, it's been about 3 times Patrick's has agreed to renegotiate. Is that a possibility for the Bengals? Or, some of the creative alternates James suggested. Frankly, I'm tired of the front office drama which I believe overtime will damage player morale.
@wjebel
@wjebel 28 күн бұрын
Bengals should treat wide receivers like Leonardo DiCaprio treats supermodels. Like there are new supermodels turning 18 every year, there are new great receivers coming in the league every year. After this year, let Tee go and tag Chase. Spread that money around to build up the rest of the roster. Both Brady & Mahomes have won multiple championships despite not having the best receivers.
@betsymcnally
@betsymcnally 29 күн бұрын
Jake as a Canadian i just have to ask- Drake or Kendrick?
@DoogieDollaz
@DoogieDollaz 27 күн бұрын
Whenever Jake talks, James tunes out …
@alainagehrig2736
@alainagehrig2736 29 күн бұрын
KC let White walk, Green Bay let Adams walk, just saying?
@kimkeen1
@kimkeen1 29 күн бұрын
It's real easy when it's not your money, Bengals have the least amount of dead cap money of any team. So cut the crap about how the team structures contract. I think Joe needs to make the existing receivers work. He's a top 2 QB.make them work.
@derekholt3791
@derekholt3791 28 күн бұрын
Quarterbacks do need good playmakers to succeed not just average come off the bench guys.The front office spends big in free agency,but when it comes down to keeping your best players we just let them walk. That is bad business in my book. The Bengals will never win if this front office can't sign the best players on this team and keep this team together.
@nickb.1200
@nickb.1200 29 күн бұрын
Eventually, we as a fan base need to accept the fact that the Bengals philosophy on guarantees is childish…
@shingodzilla7855
@shingodzilla7855 29 күн бұрын
It's not a philosophy thing it is 100% about the NFL Funding Rule. Look at that rule and look at the Bengals Operating Income. They have a pretty hard limit on how much they can toss into escrow.
@MJ-mw6vj
@MJ-mw6vj 28 күн бұрын
Guaranteed money for not doing anything is insane. No player in the NFL is worth more money than most people will make in a lifetime. Every single player is grossly overpaid.
@no2_justin
@no2_justin 28 күн бұрын
@@MJ-mw6vj so the billionaires, who most of them didn’t do anything except be born into the right family, should keep all that money, huh? I can sort of understand people being a little frustrated with these insane contracts. But I never hear people say the same thing about the owner. Unless ticket prices go down (which of course I’d love, but they’re not going to) then it is what it is. And if that’s going to be the way things are, I’d rather the players get their fair share of the revenue. They are who we’re watching after all. The owners mean nothing to me.
@nickb.1200
@nickb.1200 28 күн бұрын
@@MJ-mw6vj and? That’s the business. I don’t give a shit if it’s right or not. Playing field is the same for every team.
@n8ball02
@n8ball02 29 күн бұрын
Feels like at least once an episode James says something that he finds funny and Jake is just stone faced.
@itsnuthinbutsunshine
@itsnuthinbutsunshine 29 күн бұрын
Lol because he isn't funny
@n8ball02
@n8ball02 29 күн бұрын
@@itsnuthinbutsunshine I think it's not only not funny but also annoying. James reminds me of Chester, the little dog who runs around Spike being annoying in the cartoons.
@mattbeach8123
@mattbeach8123 29 күн бұрын
Packman can still run
@SportsNBourbon
@SportsNBourbon 28 күн бұрын
I truly think the bengals would be better off if the sign both chase and Higgins. They need to review how they do contracts. The only give guarantee money in the first year. They need to realize, SB teams do business better than them. They’ve taken huge strides in how they operate, but this is the next area they need to be better in
@n8ball02
@n8ball02 29 күн бұрын
Im starting to get concerned that the Bengals will not be able to sign Chase
@newfoundmoralclarity
@newfoundmoralclarity 29 күн бұрын
It was a contract year for Tee and he didn't do what he needed to do. Would it have changed anything if he had? Dunno, but he didn't, end of story. So bored of this storyline already. Bengals should just agree to not tag him a second time and tell him to go earn whatever contact he wants from the highest bidder next year
@n8ball02
@n8ball02 29 күн бұрын
Why would they ever agree to not tag Tee a 2nd time? For the team to give up a massive bargaining chip they need something in return. What is Tee offering in return? He will show up? He has to show up anyway or he never gets paid. If Tee sits the entire year, The Bengals would have the tag number added to their cap space next year and they can just do the same thing again.
@stevevvonhandorf1180
@stevevvonhandorf1180 29 күн бұрын
Hi JAMES, for the love of GOD, please STOP all of the creepy dancing, facial gyrations and overall goody shenanigans at the beginning of each segment (or every time you get happy about something). Be a pro! I want to like you but every time you start doing that stuff, I have to fast forward through your screen time. And its not my intention to be unnecessarily hurtful. I just wanted you to know. I'm sure your wife loves seeing your bedroom eyes and watching you get your groove on. Me, not so much! Save the creepy dance moves, "money signs" and eye rolling for the dang club. Please and thank you. WHO DEY! JAKE - thanks for encouraging me to finally speak up! WHO -DEY! LOL. J/K but i bet you know exactly what I mean.
@randybyers4751
@randybyers4751 28 күн бұрын
I believe you will see Murphy playing more on early downs replacing Hendrickson. Murphy is a much better run defender already than Trey. This should allow Trey to stay fresh
@ethanfeatheroff9135
@ethanfeatheroff9135 28 күн бұрын
This is so far from the truth lol Trey is one of the best in the league Murphy dose nothing better then Hendrickson at this point and truthfully probably never will at best he will be a replacement for Sam but he ain’t even on that level yet
@TrendSettaRico
@TrendSettaRico 28 күн бұрын
So basically you guys are obsessed to make Tee the new Mixon.....noted 🤦🏾
@ohpooh2824
@ohpooh2824 28 күн бұрын
Holy cow these guys get paid way too much.
@dartrushdane2020
@dartrushdane2020 28 күн бұрын
Higgins hasn’t had the production of Waddle or Smith
@n8ball02
@n8ball02 29 күн бұрын
Im starting to get concerned that the Bengals will not be able to sign Chase
@TheSokodelic
@TheSokodelic 29 күн бұрын
No way.... You mean Tee.
@n8ball02
@n8ball02 28 күн бұрын
@@TheSokodelic No I'm starting to worry about Chase. Hard to see the Bengals giving up $40M AAV and over $100M guaranteed to a WR, especially when they feel like they can just let him play out the 5th year and tag him twice for cheaper than $40M in either year without ever having the need to put over $100M in escrow. I hope I'm wrong for sure but it's way outside of their comfort zone.
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