The biggest thing about fairy types that frustrates me is that they resist bug type. Bug type was weak enough as it was and when a new type was added they could easily have made bug resist fairy to balance it a bit more.

If Pokemon ever makes a 19th type in the future, you know they're going to make it super effective against Fairy

The best thing Fairy did was make a bunch of Normal type Pokémon interesting for the first time in their history

Honestly, I think it's very funny that Fairy was introduced to indirectly nerf overpowered types like Dragon, Dark, and Fighting but it ironically became just as broken itself.

It's so funny that they randomly made fairy resist bug. I always kind of thought bug could be super effective to fairy, imagining something like a Caterpie eating away at some fairy circle in the forest but bug can't help catching strays all these years later

Thinking about the introduction of Fairy, it's funny that the duo of it and Steel essentially became the new kind of "Steel" type, but better. Although I'm very much glad that the Fairy itself would give Poison a reason to be used rather than for its status.

Fairy could've been so much more balanced if they'd just made some slight changes: - Doesn't resist Bug - Resisted by Grass and Ice

I never understood why Bug wasn't made to be super effective against Fairy when it came out. It was already a weak type and I think you can easily make a case for it fitting thematically, too.

This might be an unpopular opinion but i’ve always been big fan of the addition of fairies. As a poison type stan, it gave so many of my children an actual niche.

I love how fairy were made because dragon was "too broken" in gen 5 but gamefreak made fairies EVEN MORE BROKEN Like my god we could have just rebalanced ice making them resist dragon

Obviously Fairy was introduced to nerf dragon, but also to buff Poison and Steel who offensively were almost useless. With this in mind I am still baffled as to why Fairy's Bug interaction is as a resist rather than a weakness as bug is also poor offensively. Super effective U-Turns would have gone a long way to make Fairy balanced.

The immunity to dragon alone was big in changing the whole competitive scene which comprised of high damaging moves such as draco meteor/outrage getting spammed given that many dragon types have good offensive base stats that they would make use of with a decent/good base speed stats. Even most steel types didn't want to switch in to many of the the attacks given their absurd base move damage and the fact that most dragon types have strong fire attacks or earthquake/earth power for coverage.

Still don’t get why they made bug type worse instead of better

magearna and the tapus is actually a fantastic band name i would totally see that live

As a dragon-type fan, it made me really sad that Outrage became such a bad move because of the introduction of fairy types. Special attacking dragons still had draco meteor, so it hurt physical attacking dragons the worst, and we didn't get a good move to replace it. One of the reasons I love Glaive Rush.

The concept of the sound type has never made sense to me.

Im sad about Bug not being super effective against Fairy, yes, Fairy resist Bug because all the fairy tales or guardians of the nature, but that is already represented by his relation with the Grass type, the Bug type represents all the Insects and things that are part of our real life being usually middly realistic, weird or pointing in shapes, meanwhile the Fairies are represented by the butterflies that are nothing against a predatory bug, for me that makes more sense that the relationship of Dark and Bug. (Sorry for broken english, I recently think this and wanted to share it)

Fairy is a cool type but I got a couple problems with it. Fairy was made to nerf dragons/dark and game freak made a new type instead of buffing Ice type to make it a relevant check. Fairy types also seemed to be the favorite at Game freak because they always seem to have the tools to deal with their checks which they have only recently started to change. Lastly why are there so many Steel/Fairy types. Its a typing combo that should be as rare as water/fire, ice/fire but instead we got 5 of them in just 4 gens.

Love the hidden poison type buff

I enjoy then adding fairy’s. Just let Bug type be super effective/neutral against fairy instead of very resisting it maybe let bugs resist it too. By doing that I think it would let those types become a little bit more balanced.

Many argue that Dragons were a broken type due to their incredible strength. However, it's important to understand that their power stemmed from their exceptionally high base stats, rather than their typing advantage. Dragon-type Pokémon have consistently boasted some of the highest base stats across generations, making them formidable contenders in battles. Dragonite, Salamence, Garchomp, Latios, and others dominated, much like Metagross and Tyranitar. (all sub-legendary 600bst) i'm not saying that dragon was a bad type, but it was balance, (similar to water 4 resistence and 2 weknesses) Fast forword to now: You can clearly see the weakness of Dragon by looking at the lack of Dragon moves on non-Dragon Pokémon, or throughout the return of some dragon in the meta, thank to tera that allow them to lose the dragon type. Do we ever see non-dragon pokemon using tera Dragon? Now, Fairy type is by far the strongest type in the game, arguably surpassing Dragon's previous dominance.

The thing that is utterly wild about Fairy doesn't have to do directly with Fairy type. It has to do with it's weaknesses. Before Fairy type existed, Poison hit only *_ONE_* type for super effective damage, Grass type. Meanwhile, Poison was resisted by itself, which is a problem given that Poison is already considered a "stall-esque" type since it's best known for spreading residual damage with T-Spikes and Toxic, as well as bulky Pokemon like Muk, Tentacruel, and Amoongus taking advantage of their Poison typing to resist Fighting and U-Turn. But Poison was also resisted by Ground and Rock. Being resisted by Ground is just asking to invite in a Pokemon that knows STAB Earthquake, while being resisted by Rock let in Tyranitar to pursuit you as you switched out once your Sludge Bomb thudded off it's massive Sp. Def. Being resisted by Ghost was just another kick in the pants, since so many Ghosts were bulky, like Drifblim, Spiritomb, Cofagrigus, Jellicent, and the gen 4 Rotom appliances. But even the frail Gengar now had a quad resistance to opposing Sludge Bombs. Steel was in no better of a place offensively. It hit the already-weakness-laden Ice and Rock types, big whoop. Use Close Combat to punch through these defensively-burdened types, or better yet, lay down Stealth Rocks and render Ice types useless, while Rock types don't appreciate taking neutral hazard damage (because Rock doesn't resist itself). Meanwhile, Steel is resisted by Water, an already invincible type that's very common as a defensive backbone, so you'll never face a serious team that can't switch into you. It's also resisted by Fire and Electric, which are two typically frail types that struggle to find opportunities to switch in. Until you throw the game by clicking something goofy like a Steel move, so now these Specs Fire and Electric types can dish out STAB Fire Blasts, Overheats, Thunderbolts, and Volt Switches while you have to shamefully retreat to a Dragon type to soak up the Fire and Electric moves. Poison needs some serious buffs on the offensive spectrum, while Steel is kind of okay where it's at, being a defensively S tier type and an offensive letdown. If they did buff Steel type's offensive capabilities, it could do with some more weaknesses as compensation, like to Electric (really weird that it isn't weak to that), or Water (water rusting metal), but ultimately I don't think anyone is in a hurry to change Steel type too much. But Poison could do with some buffs and there's already a type that's got it way too good as it is. Water type. Two weaknesses, Grass, a type that turns a broken Pokemon into a balanced one, and a balanced Pokemon into a mediocre one. And Electric, which can be pivoted onto almost reflexively, thanks to Ground types. Water is such a broken type, hitting 3 types for super-effective in Fire, Rock, and Ground, which are all important types to hit, and being resisted by itself, Dragon, and Grass. But Dragon and Grass don't really matter as resistances since Water types all pack Ice Beam since Ice is an amazing OFFENSIVE type when you don't have to take 25% from Stealth Rocks to use Ice Beam. But Poison could work as a type that is super effective to Water, since you can contaminate water with toxic chemicals. But mostly so that Water will finally have a weakness it doesn't automatically check with Ice Beam, or even worse, Freeze Dry, allowing Water to check all of it's resistances in a single move.

"Dragon types are too OP... LETS MAKE SOMETHING WORSE" Oh, and Bug and Fairy relationship should 100% be flipped.

I love the Fairy type but they should’ve just made Ice a better Dragon counter by making it resist Dragon (and arguably Water but Ice is supposed to be fantastic offensively so…) I do like how Poison got a buff though because of Fairy but Fairy 100% felt TOO engineered as a response to Dragon Also I think an underrated negative to Fairy was that they wanted to make Steel better offensively and also wanted Steel to resist which is why Dark and Ghost were removed as resists. Ghost and somewhat Dark are incredibly braindead spam types nowadays because of it.

>Dragon Types are too overbearing >Introduce Fairy type to fix that >Fairy replaces Dragon as the overbearing type >Still somehow led to a healthier metagame overall How did they do this

Really appreciate these edited breakdowns of competitve Pokemon topics - such a good concept, so well done and the editing style is very fun and easy to digest. Shout outs to Joey for being an absolute legend.

The production quality of your videos has been absolutely amazing. Love watching them man

And this is why we dread the inception of a Ground/Fairy as a competitive ICBM, as well as the degeneracy that is Steel/Fairy, which could never go below UU since it would break the game if it went any further.

While i think it’s a bit overtuned defensively (like why the bug resist…) i still think fairy was a good addition overall to save modern gens from banded outrages and specs dracos

The bug-fairy relationship will ALWAYS be my biggest question towards game freak balancing

Fairy finally said enough to dragon spam

I feel like GF tried to balance Fairies by giving most of them pretty low stats. Of course, this didn't work because legendary Fairies have the same BST as other legends, so they ended up dominating OU anyways.

Well for the most part Fairy type Pokemon also share a defense stat dump stat much like most psychic types.

sound type works fine as it is, i like the idea of there being attacks that have another layer of attributes beyond the basic types. ,in a game with over a 1000 monsters, it helps give pokemon another niche they can fill.

I still wonder to this day why crescelia and milotic were not considered for the fairy typing.

I actually love that fairy is as prominent as it is and yet Dragon is still so good

Fairy just took over what dragon used to be. It’s the new “mythical “ typing that beats dragons. We still got awesome dragons but many can get mollywhooped by a angry wigglytuff cause why not suddenly

I hope to God the Sound type never becomes a real type. I'm so tired of hearing about it. It's so unnecessary and we just don't need it.

Great vid. I think you could’ve emphasized moonblast more. It’s possibly the best stab move in the game in singles

People who say dragons werent OP due to their type but for their stats/movepool/abilities/etc need to realize they're just admitting EVERYTHING about dragons was OP and their typing just happened to be moderate part of it. Fairy got so strong by just no selling the strongest type in the yard. Dragons desperately needed the nerf.

Hearing Joey pronounce garganacl's name normally caught me super off guard 😂 I do wish they had done a little more to check fairy type when it was released, like making bug hit it super effectively or something.

Your narration keeps improving in these essay style videos, keep up the good work :)

You know your type is overtuned when your decently strong, common, special attacking STAB option is slightly shy of 100 BP, has a max 24 PP, has a 30% chance to drop Sp. Atk, and isn't even resisted by anything. Like what's the justification in that design? Could've easily made it another Ice Beam, but I guess they thought Moonblast really needed to be that cracked. Fairy's resistance to Bug is also weird to me, feels like they only did that as a "fuck you" to U-turn instead of just making that move base 65 or whatever. Turn that Bug resistance into a weakness / neutrality and I think that makes things a bit fairer

I think fairy needs another weakness, poison and steel isn't enough

Made it effective against dragons, now it’s the new dragon type

Fairies are a bit much. They should've made that resistance to bug a weakness instead. Would've balanced it out a bit more

More videos like this please 👌🏾🔥 As per usual great video I wonder when we’ll get a new type if Ever 🤔 I’d like to see (in addition to the obvious sound) a cosmic/spiritual type soo many aliens Pokémon are ‘psychic’ when they are other worldly and should be cosmic types or dual cosmic types.

It was interesting to see in Gen 6 that with the exception of the box legend and megas, fairies were fairly slow and many of them had average stats as if they knew the type would compensate. It made me think they were playing it safe to see if it would be too strong, but I thought game freak wouldn't be able to resist the selling hype of faster, stronger fairies. The gen after didn't let me down, that's for sure and neither did the rest.

I like fairies, but they need to tweak them a little. My idea was to maybe: 1.) remove their Bug resistance and give Bugs fairy resist instead (as they currently only have ground and grass with far less offensive success). 2.) nerf moonblast to either 80-85 power or remove the Spa drop.

The Toxapex being named Wallington is hilarious

Dude, your explanation videos are great. Very informative, well thought out and narrated. I know it's harder work, but good job

Bruh not the Ursaluna being named fucking "Coca!ne Bear" lmao

"Magearna and the Tapus" would be an ecvellent mon theme cover band. With such hits as, "I'm not gunna Raichu a love song"

Everyone talking about Dragons and Bugs taking a hit but my bois Fighting type were hit the hardest

Since this is a video about typing I want to bounce a theory off some of you people. Would ice typing be fixed defensively if it gained an immunity to water? Arguments for it: I'm pretty sure type balances are logic based and that the defending type has more of said element than the attacker. So putting water on an enormous amount of ice would just result in it freezing, which is why ice being immune to water wouldn't be that out of the question. With the only exceptions being Scald, Steam Eruption and the Volcanion move, which could be neutral, or even super-effective, like freeze-dry acts for example. Would love to get some input from you guys! I'd make it into a video but I'm not exactly a content creator lol

It was always weird to me that fairy type and grass type dont have any interaction. Grass type could resist fairy.

To make fairy balanced all we need do is make normal & ice types resist & be super effective against it. Then we watch shit play out as ice stands above the rest as the best offensive type while people spam the hell out of freeze dry. Also give normal a water resist while we're at. Make ghost & dragon super effective against eachother. Give normal a weakness to poison & rock. As well as make rock resist bug. Make grass super effective against electric. This new type match up chart would cause catastrophic chaos in all forms & I'm all for it.

The type chart for fairies is so unbalanced. Crazy how physical fairy types need play rough / spirit break. There's like no good fairy moves

I feel like they should nerf Fairy by making Bug, Psychic, and Normal super effective against and resist it. They should also remove Fairy's resistance to Bug.

this video is fantastic, so informative yet paced so quickly

When Fairy types were introduced, I knew right away that Fighting-type Pokemons hates Fairy types because they're kinda like Psychic-types for them

It's kinda funny that the two strongest types now are Fairy and Steel. Magic and Technology. Magical Girl and Mecha.

My favorites fairy type Pokemon are togekiss mimikyu hatterene primamaria and iron vallant

Fairy still lacks a lot too… most notably is move variety Moonblast, Play rough, Dazzling Gleam, and sometimes Draining Kiss Physical options are extremely limited to the sometimes inaccurate Play Rough or the rare Spirit Break Moonblast on the other hand is arguably broken with more power than Psychic and a higher chance to inflict its secondary effect Fairy also still lacks useful Status moves outside of Geomancy, as well as no priority attacks

I think there are 6 main reasons why the fairy type "feels" op 1)it's weaknesses are more physically defensive types and most fairies are strong special attackers(eg magearna zacian and azumarill are exceptions) 2)the types fairy is weak against fairy has coverage to deal with it most fairies have a fire/psychic move 3) moonblast is an extremely spammable move and I think needs a massive nerf 95 base power 100% accuracy with a 30 % chance to lower spa?yea sounds op 4)most broken types like dragon and psychic have immunities but fairy doesn't 5)fairy types usually get broken moves and abilities aside from their good typing(zacian magearna azumarill the tapus the list goes on) 6) literally 90% of fairies get recovery which I don't think needs to be mentioned is a REALLY good trait to have In my opinion the strongest types are 1)steel 2)ghost 3)fairy But according to BROKENNESS I would say 1)ghost(yes even with an immunity) 2)fairy 3)water How I would nerf the fairy type:- 1)make something IMMUNE to it(not resist that does not solve the issue) 2)add more offensive steel/poison types and maybe add a weakness 3)nerf the move moonblast seriously it gets way too much value at least make it like 90 bp or 95% accurate

Fairies got rid of the overbearing dragon types...by becoming overbearing themselves.

Sound type Effective against Fairy, water, steel (sound travels faster through water and steel, fairy for balance) Resisted by normal, psychic, bug, sound (sound waves cancel out, telepathic pokemon, psychics, do not need to hear, others are mostly for balance) Added effect: always pierces substitute Throat chop becomes a fighting move effective against sound Tons of notable mons including kricketune, whismur line, chatot, Jigglypuff, audino, Pyroar, meloetta, etc.

My favourite Fairy Type is Skeledirge!

My favorite Fairy type Pokemon (no legends/mythicals): Gardevoir, Grimmsnarl, Tinkaton, Magearna, Galarian Weezing, and Alcremie

Now they need to buff Bug and Ice types

I wanted Joey to calmly say: Letting Magearna get off the goob nut 😂

I love Fairy-types in competitive. Lower tiers were pretty clearly starved for Fairies in ORAS, seeing as RU slurped up decidedly mid Pokemon like Togetic and Granbull, but Florges, Sylveon, and Gardevoir put good showings in UU. Mega Audino was both the mega and the fairy type of NU. Clefairy, Mr Mime, and Mawile were and are ORAS PU titans. Even little Carbink has a solid niche in ORAS ZU, alongside Wigglytuff, although their placements might change with the departure of Purugly. It’s pretty clear to see in the proportion of new Pokemon that Fairies were a big focus for gens 6-8, as you have a lot of new fairy types added in those gens to make up for it being a new type. That’s why I think there was less of a scramble for fairy types in the lower tiers of gen 7, as the scarcity and novelty were reduced a bit.

I love Fairy so much! It's my favorite type so much.

i like using fairy type because they look kinda weak but actually quite powerful

still incredibly criminal that play rough is 90 pwr 90 acc and moonblast is 95 pwr 100 acc

I always felt that Psychic should resist Fairy (instead of fire) and bug also resist it the same way fighting and bug resist each other. Also i wonder how it would be if instead of inmunity to dragon, fairy only resisted it 🤔

I feel like this video is just a compilation of Magearna being OP and getting banned

GameFreak introduced fairies bc dragons were too strong but ended up making an even more broken type

Brilliant video! Very insightful!

Maybe this is a hottake but in my opinion the Type Dragon was not Broken and it's massive fall post Gen5 shows it. Dragon hits nothing super effective but itself most Dragon Pokemon were strong mainly because they were the Pseudo's of their Gen most other non pseudo Dragon introduced before Gen6 made little waves in OU especially in the first two gens Dragon was just Bad. The popularity of Dragons only rose in Gen 3 due to the introduction of DD. The following two generations Dragons actually are the strongest Pokemon as they should be with their BST and again mainly carried by DD and Draco Meteor. Now were these metas necessarily unhealthy or unfun? i personally don't think so. Then came Gen 6 and with it the Fairy type now they actually are the broken Type, that people claimed dragon was. After the introduction of fairy type and GF moving on from megas, which papered over a lot of the new problems the stall breaking threat of dragons being neutered entailed, the meta following in Gen 8 was then dominated by strond Steel und Posion stall as they were best at dealing with fairy Pokemon. In Gen 9 we see somewhat of a resurgence of Dragon Pokemon driven by the fact they can now ditch their terrible Dragon Type throughout the history of the Dragon type it rarely if ever was actually broken and most dragons in early generations didn't even use dragon moves. Simple balance adjustments to DD, Draco and maybe outrage would have been more then enough.

bug's final nail in the coffin

Nerfing dragons may make sense But nerfing fighting and bug is just stupid.

>dragon is only resisted by steel >make fairies immune to dragon moves >fighting hits 5 types super effectively >make fairies resist fighting moves >steel lost its dark resistance >make fairies resist dark moves >fuck bugs >make fairies resist bug moves

Fairy is a good type but I still think they should have a weaknesa to Fire. That will balance it out a bit more. And it fits the theme of places fairies live like Forests burning from Fire.

Unpopular opinion: Dragon as a type in generation V wasn't overpowered. Semi-legendary with 600 BST, Outrage made to 120 BP, the wide access to Draco Meteor and Dragon Dance made them overpowered. Imagine if all Dark-type Pokémon has access to all the same tool like Devastation (Outrage), Night Crash (Draco Meteor), and Quick Scheme (Dragon Dance). It will lead the metagame to the rise of Fairy-type and even perhaps Bug-type to face the problem, while Psychic, Ghost, Dragon and even perhaps Grass type are going to be way less used.

Bug should’ve been supereffective against fairy smh my little bug guys got robbed

Fairies have a history of being very good in LC. Swirlix is a top 5 LC mon ever abd usually gets banned, and Cutiefly is also good and QD spams its way to being banned.

Alright now we need you to pitch some potential types

People might not remember but fighting types in gen 5 were the sht and other than keldeo they pretty much disappeared in gen 6 (not counting megas) also in bdsp garchomp, salamence and latias were ass mostly due to faries

Using Xenon footage is just greatness recognizing greatness

I still have no idea why Fairy resists bug. I have never seen any sort of justification in the lore.

Ghetsis, Iris and their illegal Hydreigon are the REAL reasons why Game freak create fairy types.

The saddest part about fairy types is they stopped making fairy type pokemon cards which isn't fair

One additional thing for your video is that sableye was untouchable due to being a dark/ghost type Pokémon which resisted against both psychic and fighting type Pokémon. But with the addition of fairy type Pokémon, sableye was no longer completely untouchable though since sableye can learn metal claw, the cave dweller can strike back at fairy type Pokémon.

Still mad Fairy resist bug type. Some of my favorite mons are bug type but the typing just isn't that good. They could've made fairy weak to it or at least bug resistant to it instead of the other way around

Fairy should be weak to fire and grass and Bug should resist giving them better defensive options and giving fairy more weakness snd making the moves less spamable

Fairies are so broken while Bug and Ice and shafted most of the times. I can't stand that, they need to buff those two types at least

dont worry. Been subbed for a minute. we are getting close. lets go!

I’ll never be convinced that the dragon type itself was the problem. The demons in gen 5 ou would have been just as terrifying if they were all bug

Best thing about Fairies is that it made Steel and Poison much more offensively viable. Seriously I mostly play Gen 3 now so the absence of Fary types is really felt here