How far can I upgrade this toy 3D printer?

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Made with Layers (Thomas Sanladerer)

11 күн бұрын

The Easythreed machines are not good 3D printers, but it's fascinating to see how they managed to build them so cheap. Can we turn it into a sleeper by making some inconspicuous, but impactful upgrades?
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@Levkin 10 күн бұрын

Reminds me of the good old Ender 3 times. Upgrades far exceeding the cost of the printer 🤣

@padraigv 9 күн бұрын

im still in those days😂 og ender 3 with a bambu a1

@garramiro 9 күн бұрын

@@padraigvyes half the world (probably morel is still rocking ender 3s

@RedRavenRuler 9 күн бұрын

I'm just about to to retire my two Ender 3 pros that have been highly modded and turn them into parts for other projects.

@thegamercanine5127 9 күн бұрын

Never again, it was never worth it 😭

@KnexJunkie 9 күн бұрын

I do like his attempt of making this better i mean it shows if you know how to make the machine better its gone print better but stil money wise its not worth it.

@bigobigo5045 10 күн бұрын

This feels like something a quirky engineering teacher would do as a class project.

@Kalvinjj 9 күн бұрын

So sad I never had any of those, just the kind that thinks their subject and line of research is the center of the world, and everyone taking the entire course are just there to turn into his researchers and academics in general...

@tiestofalljays 8 күн бұрын

That’d be nice, but might be only possible at a private or boarding school. The teacher would sooner get fired than be allowed to do anything cool at most highschools in the USA lol.

@333donutboy 9 күн бұрын

This seems like it would make a great modding contest. It would be awesome to see one of these printers put out a 5 minute benchy.

@Mr_Lyric 7 күн бұрын

I mean an ender3 currently holds the wr speedboat so definitly possible

@littlenyancat5754 9 күн бұрын

11:30 There are commands for doing those two things, actually. The FORCE_MOVE command does exactly what it sounds like, and it ignores the homing state of the printer, as well as software endstops as far as I can tell. With it you could do say, FORCE_MOVE STEPPER=stepper_x DISTANCE=-250 VELOCITY=10 to ram the X gantry back 250mm, even if it does end up crashing into the frame. Afterwards, the SET_KINEMATIC_POSITION lets you tell "hey printer, you're at XYZ now" and after being issued, klipper allows you to move the printer normally as if you had homed it.

@WAINTDEIR 7 күн бұрын

I once needed this command to recover a print job after idle timeout hit me at filament runout, but it has to be enabled in the config --> it was not there, so the print was a fail, but it was fun trying this stuff out and now i am prepared for it 🙂

@HvdHaghen 7 күн бұрын

First time I saw this printer I thought of using the parts to build a delta printer. Three times the same mechanism. I love this kind of project. Thanks.

@David_Antos 10 күн бұрын

Holy moly, you're running the machine harder than I do my Rat Rig V-Core 3 ;)

@SCKWorld-vv7te 9 күн бұрын

The 3D printer of Theseus: how much of it can you replace before it becomes a whole new printer?

@lassikinnunen 9 күн бұрын

I have one of those, it was sold as a bukobot clone. As long as theres an original aluminium extrusion in there somewhere its still the same printer.

@CraigTrader 5 күн бұрын

I have a Prusa Mk2 (now a Mk2.5) where the only stock parts from the original kit are (a) the vertical frame, (b) the printbed frame, (c) some of the threaded frame rods, (d) the stepper motors, and the (e) mainboard -- everything else has been replaced or upgraded.

@teamllr3137 10 күн бұрын

this is the apogee of the "take a somewhat bad printer and making it good " movement, it's a great competitor to the ender 3 on that manner

@ps3customgamer 9 күн бұрын

Ender 3 sucks the market is flooded and there’s no clean upgrade path beyond fixing the extruder and heatbreak.

@AndrasBuzas1908 9 күн бұрын

I think it's just fun to take something crap and make it better.

@barrettdent405 9 күн бұрын

You need to take this all the way with a new lightweight hotend and cooling setup. As you said, the low mass is a major advantage. This isn’t about whether it’s sane to do it. You’ve done it and it was awesome! Go on!

@jeffm2787 9 күн бұрын

Good to see you've had a change of heart about klipper. I was a duet fan boy until I discovered klipper, now my Duet's are driven with Klipper. It's just so much more configurable and the input shaping actually works.

@garramiro 9 күн бұрын

I don't if much more configurable . I can do pretty much anything klipper can on my duet wifi.

@Daepilin 7 күн бұрын

That duet is much more expensive than any klipper style Mainboard though. @@garramiro

@seljd 10 күн бұрын

give that Voron V2.4 some love and maybe convert it to toolchanger, that's worth at least 2 videos (1. build and 2. comparison with the XL)

@ps3customgamer 9 күн бұрын

There’s too much voron content and honestly it’s due a refresh. The new hybrid corexy system on rat rig 4 is shockingly good, nevermind the new fleun delta that outperforms vorons.

@BeefIngot 8 күн бұрын

@@ps3customgamer Yea. I feel like the Voron brand is really over exposed when Ratrig deserves at least an equal amount of light. The VCore4 Idex really is looking hot.

@lolzlarkin3059 8 күн бұрын

Also, Tom is too salty to care about voron

@Daepilin 7 күн бұрын

Meh, one is fully open with thousands of mods and for one you need to by custom parts only ratrig sells(+ way fewer mods) ... I know what I prefer even if the newest ratrig looks good.

@BeefIngot 7 күн бұрын

@@Daepilin Where did you get that you need custom parts only ratrig sells? Its fully open source. As for mods, what mods would you need exactly or actually do that Ratrig doesnt have the capability for? To me thats an ender 3 argument. Lastly, have you not found the Voron community a tad bit snobby? They also have a hard bias against chamber heaters for no real good reason.

@federicocalvone9688 10 күн бұрын

I think you can force the printer to move without homing, it's called something like force_move. If I remember correctly you should add a block [force_move] force_move = true I don't have to tell you why this is not an advisable thing to do, but it could have been helpful in the early stages of configuration

@julianschill 9 күн бұрын

Exactly. When force_move is active you can use SET_KINEMATIC_POSITION to set the current position.

@nuy6n6nn 10 күн бұрын

I wish you made videos more frequently. I know it's hard but I really look forward to them

@andyspoo2 3 күн бұрын

All this stuff takes time to design, print, test. And unless you are really trying to get divorced, sometimes you have to spend a few mins with the family.

@symenbrug1992 9 күн бұрын

I have wanted to make a "sleeper build" out of this printer ever since that first video you had on it, this seems to be a pretty similar concept hahah

@lajoyalobos2009 9 күн бұрын

He beat me to it!! I was considering buying this exact printer just for the sheer fun of upgrading it.

@DesignMeSilly 9 күн бұрын

14:23 commenting specifically because of the scanner idea, never thought of that and it's awesome! Totally need to remember this for future projects

@lassikinnunen 9 күн бұрын

Once you got your scanning settings good(found the right mode) you don't need the ruler, the scale will be in the metadata right when putting into inkscape or whatever floats your boat. (Inkscape is handy for turning scanner into a vector as well to import into tinkercad etc if you're just doing as simply as possible). For a bit irregular shapes that have some regularity still you can use paper plus dirty finger method of getting an impression too

@MegaChickenPunch 9 күн бұрын

@@lassikinnunen or just measure one dimension, use scale option in any CAD and you have 1:1

@ckitching2 6 күн бұрын

I've used this technique before, and it's the only reason I still have a 12 year old USB scanner around. It works best for colourful or white objects because you'll usually have to leave the scanner lid off which turns the background black. It's possible to do it with black objects, but only if they're relatively flat or if you have some way of making the edges visible. Alternatively, you can trace around an object with a mechanical pencil or something that can get as close to the edge of the object as possible and then scan the page. It's less accurate, but useful for objects that won't scan well.

@Arek_R. 9 күн бұрын

"I know what im doing" command, lmao, I need that. That belt cutting tool satisfying af.

@ComixConsumed 6 күн бұрын

I love my easy threeD... Picked it up for like $40 and it's been a great little machine. Plan to use it to build a bigger machine when I get into a house

@sumguysr 7 күн бұрын

Designing a whole new tiny cheap printer sounds like a great project you'd knock outta the park.

@andrewwatts1997 9 күн бұрын

Next step - linear rails, linear motors, Dragonfly direct extruder, camera's, multilateral splitter. Jokes aside, a great build !

@Kalvinjj 9 күн бұрын

That would be funny, the Ship of Theseus moment, gotta find a place to glue the Easythreed logo at least!

@gcewing 9 күн бұрын

Tool changer... 4th and 5th axis...

@mysticmarble94 10 күн бұрын

Klipper does actually have a force movement setting.

@VisualGadget 6 күн бұрын

Yea. I spent an our trying to figure out why print head moving diagonally when I command to move on X axis. The reason was that FORCE_MOVEMENT mode doesn't respect my CoreXY kinematics. For simple kinematics, like that small printer has, it is OK.

@thewatersavior 9 күн бұрын

Nice! I have been running an easythreed x2 for 3+ years. Just adjusted belts. Its a workhorse, glad to have this future roadmap!

@tiestofalljays 8 күн бұрын

These are some of the coolest kinds of 3D Printing videos.

@justinpettit8282 9 күн бұрын

Little did I know after watching a couple of your KZfaq videos i would actually get to mess around with one and decide to buy my own. I have already printed 6 things and its addicting lol im absolutely in love with it.

@StopChangingUsernamesYouTube 9 күн бұрын

I know what tools a lot of us started with, at least those of us who hopped in before Prusa started making noise and all that, but I find it amazing that we now have things we can call "toy 3D printers" instead of "Where should I install the smoke detector?"

@Sully948 9 күн бұрын

This is so awesome! The K1 was my first printer, and it was probably the most frustrating thing I've ever learned to use. But now I'm at 3 printers total and loving 3D printing!

@JTCF 9 күн бұрын

It would be interesting to make a project of making these upgrades printable on the printer itself. Well, that's what I'm going to do with my K9, as I have already pondered on such a project, and I'm thankful you decided to do it!

@tenchuu007 9 күн бұрын

I greatly appreciate this kind of project. Stealth builds with jenk are fantastic.

@Austinfromcorncountry 4 күн бұрын

love this kind of project! thank you for sharing!

@crawlerin 9 күн бұрын

That's a really neat project 🙂Thanks for the video.

@Spectra1351 9 күн бұрын

Loved the video Thomas ! thank you

@Seelingfahne 9 күн бұрын

Ah is this that Pambooh A1 everyone is talking about?

@rebellion3D 9 күн бұрын

Thank you for making this

@vogon3400 9 күн бұрын

incredible work as always, and I'm really glad you ended up enjoying klipper after all!

@scottr4086 Күн бұрын

Great video Tom! I really like to see these types of videos from you. You really shine on doing projects like this. I know it must take a ton of work, but just wanted you to know I appreciate it! Looking forward to your next video

@Erpty05 9 күн бұрын

this is so fun - you are such a talented engineer!

@achannelhasnoname5182 9 күн бұрын

I really love videos like these, they're so fun to watch

@DiThi 9 күн бұрын

The graphs at 17:05 tell you what shaper is recommended from those measurements (in your case 3HUMP_EI and 2HUMP_EI respectively). It's true that it should have an option to set those automatically. It's what 99.9% of users would ever need.

@MadeWithLayers 9 күн бұрын

I've seen those recommendations, but the Wiki has a more detailed set of pros and cons for each option. MVZ was the safe choice, but I'm sure there are better options with a bit more tuning.

@BennyTygohome 9 күн бұрын

We really went down the rabbit hole on this one. Excellent video, i really enjoyed it. Thank you 👍

@ArticTiger 10 күн бұрын

Thank you, genuinely for changing your stance on Klipper, the early community was shit but the software is impressive IMO, I hoped to see you cover it at some point! Very excited about the future!

@alainthire 6 күн бұрын

Wonderful content as always

@gavinthomas214 9 күн бұрын

I loved the video. Thanks Thomas.

@BenS1002 Күн бұрын

Glad you gave Klipper a try, it's awesome!

@ThantiK 9 күн бұрын

Hell yeah Tom, this is some good stuff.

@yassinelessawy6101 8 күн бұрын

This is the type of content I love

@11danzizzle11 9 күн бұрын

Wonderful video! I always love seeing bargain bin items souped up to be way more functional! I have fond memories of doing similar stuff to my Printrbot Simple back in the day haha.

@GabrielAlejandroZorrilla 7 күн бұрын

Not bargain it you have to get the pi, new steppers, power source, list goes on ...😂

@yoshmarklund 10 күн бұрын

Now this is quality content :)

@johnbee1574 9 күн бұрын

we need more of this

@edumaker-alexgibson 7 күн бұрын

I've been looking forward to this.

@FabriceCHERRIER 9 күн бұрын

i like the idea! good job

@jamesnorris4054 10 күн бұрын

Great video!

@ahmadbinmatar 9 күн бұрын

Nice project i am impressed 👌🏻

@Uncle_Cheez 10 күн бұрын

Nice stuff!

@ErrorTH 9 күн бұрын

Damn I was waiting for this video and it didn't disappoint

@charlesraes8541 9 күн бұрын

I love this video idea - well done for implementing such a great idea - I love making small cantilever printers op with Klipper

@randylovin472 9 күн бұрын

Excited to see Thomas get into Klipper!

@theFrizzleFry 9 күн бұрын

Very fun video!

@kurtlindner 9 күн бұрын

This was a really fun one.

@ChitosVids 9 күн бұрын

What a fun and great vid! Lol awesome project

@tonywharton5220 9 күн бұрын

Amazing engineering ✌️

@32bitDK 8 күн бұрын

Now this is a cool printer!

@theflyingnon1133 7 күн бұрын

watching it rotate on the table while benchy-ing was hilarious

@steveobhave 8 күн бұрын

Holy moly how good quality is your camera! Sharp as a razor man!

@KeozFPV 9 күн бұрын

That trickwith the scanner and the ruler is just genius. I have never tought of it... THE BEST PART IS THAT THE IMMAGE IS NOT DISTORTED LIKE WHEN YOU TAKE AN IMAGE WITH A CAMERA:

@ShieldJaguar 9 күн бұрын

Haha excellent video, thoroughly enjoyed it .......Cheers.

@mrnlce7939 9 күн бұрын

You put more time and effort in to making this than the original designer. Great video. Keep it up.

@arthurmoore9488 9 күн бұрын

I'm not so sure about that. Design for manufacture just has different constraints. Everything about this printer is cheap, and that actually takes work. For example, you can't just injection mold a hollow part, so the stiffening that was done would have had to be the equivalent of 100% infill or move to a different process. The unfortunate part is they probably skipped the testing and iteration that is a key part of product design. So they couldn't figure out where to add stiffening ribs or discover the premature bushing wear before the thing had to be out the door.

@JameTek 9 күн бұрын

This was fun! I was wondering whatever happened to this absurd little thing. But there it is! lol neat

@OldManSparkplug 9 күн бұрын

Well done you glorious Madman.

@ricardopereira3461 9 күн бұрын

Top video i liked a lot!

@matthewrice5721 6 күн бұрын

This feels like the essence of tinkering. "This cheap printer isn't worth what I paid for it, let alone my time. Let's spend more money and time on it!" Delightful.

@arklanuthoslin 9 күн бұрын

love the flatbed scanner trick. Similarly I was making a printed, solid, non-flexible arm bracer for an assassin's creed cosplay for a friend, and needed to scale it to his arm, of course. took a couple pictures of his forearm held over a 1cm grid for a little paper cutter at a couple different angles and much to my amazement it worked really well and fits perfectly. but a forearm is just slightly more organic in shape that this printer, so it took a LOT of minor adjustments.

@winandd8649 Күн бұрын

I was wondering the same; "Wouldn't this cheap printer be a whole lot nicer after a few upgrades?" Very nice to watch someone executing that same idea.. so I don't have to 😉(I mean, I would if I had that same printer but I dont)

@RX--- 9 күн бұрын

Is great to watch this kind of videos!. Can you make a video of an upgrade of a Prusa MK1 (2012-2015) using the available technology? This will very interesting/useful to anyone who have one of these in a corner with dust 😂. Greetings from Brazil!

@chrisbaker3760 8 күн бұрын

I did this with an old anet a8... I replaced more of the printer than I kept but it looks fairly stock. It's fastest was a sub 13 minute benchy which is just nuts for a wobbly old acrylic frame from the dark ages 😂 These kinds of projects are great fun

@CapnBry 9 күн бұрын

You're insane for doing this but I love the engineering mindset of "we can fix this". I'm shocked at how good it got after what would be marginal upgrades if you didn't have to design everything from scratch yourself! 💪

@BRUXXUS 9 күн бұрын

Incredibly fun and interesting video! So happy to see this little guy get turned into a hotrod. Haha

@AerialWaviator 8 күн бұрын

While this is not a recommended project; I do appreciate the informative lessons on upgrade mods and custom klipper setup insights. Both educational and entertaining episode. Part of me is wanting to see a custom design variation that uses linear rails and an easy swappable A1-style print head. It would be educational and fascinating from a engineering design and how it works aspect, but not necessary that practical, beyond an experimental, or learning tools aspect.

@justthinkingthoughts 9 күн бұрын

I just finished the blower and camera mount after converting my mega-s to biqu h2, skr3 and klipper. Smh yeah i could have bought a second for that upgrade but the modelling and trial error with tolerances for the adapters was the most fun

@ALex-qc4lf 7 күн бұрын

Just for info: Klipper can automatically save the suggestions to your config. It also tells you the suggestions in the chart, including which shaper function to use. MZV is only really useful if the chart has one peak with a bit of side noise. In case of multiple peaks you tend to need ei or 2hump ei

@TheLaXandro 9 күн бұрын

It's amazing what input shaping can do with floppy geometry.

@davethebuskeruk 7 күн бұрын

No way, you actually did it :) I said I'd try to mod mine after I did the video on it but never got round to it :)

@JTCF 9 күн бұрын

Oh boy. Can't wait to do all of this to mine. EDIT: except for Klipper.

@quinnobi42 9 күн бұрын

I remember a few years back when I upgraded my ender 3 with klipper, I was working from scratch. I used a combination of the official Klipper documentation and the Voron documentation to get everything set up with Fluidd as my frontend of choice. Wasn't that hard but definitely time consuming to figure out. Nice to see that they're making it easier for noobs to get into it with premade installs and images.

@JosephHalder 9 күн бұрын

I had a week off around Christmas time a year and a half ago, and had just installed my BTT SKR E3 v3, it was brand new, and support for it's MCU wasn't even in the official Klipper branch. I also used Fluidd, but recently just dumped the same config into Mainsail, and it still works great. It's a steep learning curve, but I can't even imagine going back to Marlin.

@BeefIngot 9 күн бұрын

As a fun project, this is cool, for any actual person wanting a printer, an A1 Mini currently is 200, so perfect printing vs saving basically nothing with so many fewer featues is kinda a hard sell. Actually in terms of having some fun I think the Rook is really good for that. Also in a similar vein: The 3d printed 3d printer where even the rails are 3d printed. Fun project.

@zerog2000 8 күн бұрын

Definitely fun “because we can” project. From a time & money perspective, the A1 mini, especially being on sale is literally the definition of a no-brainer. Thumbs up for the clever 2d scan workflow trick.

@swamihuman9395 6 күн бұрын

- That was just crazy enough to make it interesting! :D - Thx for sharing this "ill-advised" content :)

@weissefabrik 9 күн бұрын

der beltsplitter war ne schön idee :)

@marc_frank 9 күн бұрын

i've been using a 2d scanner to model stuff for a long time, but putting a ruler on there is genius! 👍🏼

@DavidMiOo 9 күн бұрын

These are my favorite Thomas S. videos

@KaliKavala 9 күн бұрын

Wow I was hoping for an episode where you tinker with this printer and may be config it or somethinig. But that is another level :D A lot of levels hahahah :P Love your work.

@tobunar 8 күн бұрын

I'm surprised you got confused by the installation part. Usually the first thing that comes up with installation instructions is KIAUH, which just installs everything important for you, you just have to choose the intefrace type and build the mainboard firmware.

@theo4626 9 күн бұрын

The second you said you will install klipper your got me almost dying of laughing.

@jackra1n 9 күн бұрын

i know this is probably silly but i would love to see a video with more improvements to this machine (hotend, extruder etc.). was very entertaining to watch. i like the 3d models to improve stability of the printer

@siderbrighthelm 9 күн бұрын

You did the upgrades before I could finish my reprap XD maybe it'll still be useful

@dan203 9 күн бұрын

You can buy a Bambu A1 Mini for $200 and it works great out of the box

@paulminor4707 4 күн бұрын

there IS actually a homing override (its needed for Z hop on homing for example), and manually homing is possible as well.

@FilamentFriday 8 күн бұрын

Poor Fabrikator Mini gave up its steppers only to be tossed aside. I still have mine and it runs at MRRF every year.

@tiaan1587 7 күн бұрын

I would really love to see a full video of how to do custom clipper setups for any machine, defenitley a delta as I don't see much information surrounding the topic

@woutervossebeld4664 9 күн бұрын

10:30 mainsail is the most accesible since you can flash it on a pi with the official pi flashing tool.

@hobbyistnotes 9 күн бұрын

Fun project, fascinating how much further just with software algorithms we can go our days.

@hippiemcfake6364 9 күн бұрын

Cool video! I'd have loved to see how much each of the individual changes contributed, i.e. by testing it after each change. For instance, how much can you improve it with printed parts only? As well as some data on print times and dimensional accuracy.