how far would one punch man go? including dbs

if he ever passes Z

⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠@@lamaking5956Depends on how you scale the Buu saga. High Ball for top tiers are universal level(Buuhan about to collapse the universe, Kid Buu about to destroy Grand and Supreme Kai’s planet which could possibly be infinite in size, and Vegito who was the strongest character at the time) with the low ball being low multi-solar system level. More recent feats put Saitama at either multi-solar system to multi-galactic. So enough to dominate conservative estimates but not take on the higher interpretations of Z. DBS is straight up out of the question. Universal+ was the baseline when Goku nearly wiped out a cosmic construct with multiple universal sized dimensions(possibly infinitely sized) just by punching really, really hard.

@@123GOHANZ yeah good point, thanks for the answer!

Have you ever done how far Superman would go? Specifically Post-Crisis Superman.

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They don't have weak ears. They have a weakness against a very specific frequency that messes with their equilibrium

That will do the trick lmao

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So basically, Goku just powering up will be enough to take down the viltramite empire.

@@michaelmurray8134yessir. and we saw that gotenks and kid buu could open portals with their screams if trapped somewhere. so it would be more than enough to burst omnimans ear drums and kill him

Isn't it a particular set shockwave that disturbs their equilibrium though? It's not just all loud noises lol.

Omniman is definitely getting past Nappa, a meat head too dumb for his own good. He still cannot level an entire city by flying and since it is a weak human city it doesn't help him. Viltrumites get their guts ripped out of their bodies and live, saiyans do that they die. It's a wrap plus Viltrumites can survive in space that Saiyans cannot.

Omniman exterminated the Flaxan planet in mere minutes. They were a race of aliens with technology far beyond that of earth and a planet that was just as big if not bigger. Omniman didn’t even actively destroy their planet, he simply flew around their planet fast enough to ignite their atmosphere and create a line of nukes everywhere he flew. He’s killing Nappa bruh

⁠@@SomeEmoGuyit wasn’t minutes, it took many weeks, months or even years at most, we don’t know. Look at his beard, time in the flaxxan dimension flows differently

​@@SomeEmoGuylmao nappa would go to the flaxxan planet, raise two fingers, then GG

​@@TheUnseenPathnappa is moon level, not city level.

I don't think he makes it past saiyan saga raditz. Actually king vegeta or bardock would mop omni man or even the strongest viltrumite like Thragg. King vegeta was shown destroying 3 giant planets with a wave of his hands.. DBZ is just different bro. It's not fair

@TRIPTHEARTIST Yes I'm aware of all that. No reason to say that Raditz stacks up to those people. He was a low class warrior. Bardock was the exception not the rule.

He would have a slim chance at the 23 tenkiechi budokai

@@THENemesisXX99piccolo effortlessly destroyed the moon in an instant while being supressed . The same piccolo had to put everything in his blast to kill raditz. Raditz is easily on omni mans level plus he has ki attacks. Not to mention great ape

he is not getting past anybody in the db verse@@soviete2142

😂omni man is faster than light sayan saga charecters are not and frieza saga charecters are not faster than light dragon ball fans are retarded

A fair fight is Omniman handicapped fighting them/.

@@TheUnseenPath Not really, honestly he’s only as strong as Goku and Piccolo individually speaking during the 23rd Budokai

@@sarcasticsuperjerk18 your forgetting that people like to wank Omni man to what is essentially infinite speed even though there are a thousand counter feats lol

​@@TheUnseenPathbig dawg, King Vegeta that died to a fuckin uppercut damn near wiped out a solar system by lifting his hand while in outer space ...just...no bro

Basically 😂 He would then proceed to go to the afterlife to run the fade with Omniman one last time.

Dude if Majin buu existed in the Invincible universe he would be looked at as the scourge of the universe or something. No one would be even remotely powerful enough to do damage let alone kill him. Maybe Atom Eve but thats assuming her transmutation works on majin buu

@@TheUltimateMachineGod that's a good point with atom eve

@@TheUltimateMachineGod well, vegito got turned into a literal ball of candy and it didn't do absolutely anything to him so maybe buu wouldn't care about it

​@@TheUltimateMachineGod Would Eves powers save her from being transformed into a chocolate bar 🤔

Yeah that's why I say that Omni man would probably not do that since it's basically a suicide

Vegeta isn’t dense he’s just reinforcing his body with ki. Machines/robots frames are actually hard for Ki users to damage. The strongest of which is the living machine magma thing for the tournament of power arc but other examples are the RR army armored Mechs from the Original Dragon Ball and Cooler’s droids (I left out the androids because they all use ki). Omni Man’s body is far more resilient to damage than anything made on earth so he scales fairly high in resiliency. Ki blast make it easy to take out planets, no need to tank the planets core which is insanely hot and dense, doing it with your bare hands is an insane feat (even if it was a shared one). Goku was burn by lava in the Namek arc, Cooler was killed by the sun in seconds, and Vegeta died as a result of earth getting destroyed by Frieza, since he’s survived in low oxygen environments before it had to be the blast that killed him. Omni man will die to a planet buster as well but survived nuke lvl damage and only got a nose bleed so basic ki blasts aren’t an issue and he’s not the type to let someone as powerful as Vegeta power up or charge up his attacks. He doesn’t play by the anime rules. Him killing his flash means he can defeat faster opponents as well. He could take out Vegeta until after the Frieza arc since Vegeta never gained the insane speed boost Goku got until after the Cooler Revenge Movie.

@@mangasaintbasic ki blasts with universe level AP?

@@placeholder_384 most ki blast are held back to keep from destroying the planet. Even Roshi could take out the moon but you won’t see him using that kind of blast in a fight. Weaker ki blast still have power but are used more to drain the opponents ki. When their Ki is weak or guard is down even Bulma can hurt them. Without proper ki control, Ginyu was weakened immensely in Goku’s body. Friezes during the Namek Saga was the only exception to the rule, he can survive the destruction of a planet due to his insane durability even with almost no Ki and cut into a quarter, and doesn’t need oxygen in space. Omni Man body is closer to Frieza when it come to his durability,just not to that extreme. He’s ability to resist damage in the extremes for a prolonged periods of time, even if his guards down survive crazy damage from a laser blast that was about mountain lvl and be fine (a super weak laser almost killed Goku when he wasn’t wasn’t paying attention), and he still can fight with organs/body parts missing.

@@mangasaint that’s wrong, it keeps the same AP but they limit the DC (destructive capacity)

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Maybe, since they are around the same level as raditz they could honestly overwhelm him

​@@MayorCrunchyraditz is enough, one saibaman is enough

Vegeta would 100 percent toy with him lol

@@Eterna7Plays Depends how much shit Omniman is talking. Vegeta might one tap him quickly just to make a point.

omni man aint overtaking vegetas ego so definitely@@Eterna7Plays

Would be like when Vegeta faught Cabba. When Vegeta got serious, the fight was over before Cabba knew what happened.

Goku is the only one playing with foes.

He can't raise his power level like that.

​@@berzerkbankie1342More than increasing his power, it's more that he was holding back, Raditz did it, Vegeta could too, it seems strange that Nappa cannot

EXACTLY

Thank you lmao

yea im gonna be serioso with you raditz would beat him easily

I don’t know the math behind this or the video but I love the funny visual of Omni man breaking his arm punching vegeta lmao.

Well, it's simple really. 700 trillion pounds of tnt is about 300 billion tons of tnt, you need about 60 trillion tons of tnt to blow up the Moon. So it's not even close to the power Piccolo showed when he turned the Moon to dust ( that would take WAY more energy btw ). So Onmi-man can't even beat Goku or Piccolo from the start of Z. Well, unless he fly them into space i guess. Omni-man can even kill demon king Piccolo. Roshi could blow up the Moon but was powerless vs demon king Piccolo.

Where did it say it was 100 times the speed of light?

@@jt37816 Speed of light is a bit over 1 billion km/h, the video states Omni Man can fly at 150 billion km/h. Presumably this was calculated by dividing some distance he flew by the time he flew it in.

omni man has feats putting him at millions of times faster than light in the comics like traveling to another galaxy in a week or Mark traveling to another star system in under a minute

I honestly don't know exactly, but he will definitely be stronger

He’s definitely be formidable I’ll tell you that

Depends, Nolan would, in theory, have much longer to train, he could surpass a lot of Z in a few solid decades. I'd be more scared of Allen learning Ki Control myself, since his power is essentially Zenkais as is.

He'd be unstoppable. Remember that most of the characters power in the show comes from KI. Without it they are practically nothing, maybe slightly superhuman. Omni Man is a moon buster even without KI so if he were to learn KI he would grow insanely fast.

tf do you mean unstoppable? he'd die to pan either way 💀@@genericwhitemale9566

Size is just a measure of volume, you’d need to consider the celestial bodies mass to really figure how hard it would be to destroy it, even though it’s only 4X the size, it’s would still be over 1000X as difficult to destroy the earth compared to the moon

Given how King Kai's planet functions it seems that planet's don't have to follow standard density rules in the dbz-verse.

@@monkeymonman100 The Earth is 81x the mass of the moon. It wouldn't be 1000x harder even by your own logic. In terms of attack potency, being 4-10x moon level would still make you small planet level and that's pretty much exactly what we see in the show.

@@MonochromaticPrism If you apply DB physics to Omni-Man, it makes him less impressive by comparison. He hasn't shown FTL combat speed feats and he needed help to destroy (not vaporize) a planet that's twice the size of Earth. If you apply real world physics to DB characters, it makes them that much more busted. Again, Planet Vegeta would have to be 5000x the size of Earth to have 10x the gravity. So they may not be able to move FTL in an atmosphere like they commonly do, but neither can Omni-Man and they dwarf him in power even harder. Best thing to do is to be reasonably charitable to both sides and assume that Omni-Man can keep pace with whoever he's fighting from DB and then determine who has better attacks, who's stronger, who's more experienced, etc. If you do that, he still doesn't get past Radditz.

@@DarthVaizard the difficulty to destroy planets isn’t linear, being 81X the mass and only 4 times the volume is way different than being 81 times the mass and volume

@Angerisagift0 nah Bardock in Z had a power level of 10,000 so he'd tear Omni-Man apart

@Angerisagift89 10.000 PL , Bardock clears this

​@@timevalentime1806If we use the lyrics of Bardock's song as proof (heck, the song played while he was fighting Frieza's soldiers),Bardock's power was far greater than 10,000 in his final fight

@yeikelamores6085 he was growing exponentially throughout the special so that's expected.

@@timevalentime1806 Yes, we faithfully follow what the song says, Bardock reached 140,000 power, I also love it because the song directly ends with the 530,000 Frieza's power, so to a certain extent I can take her seriously

if this was the case, Roshi with a pl of 139 multiplied for 3 is 417 with a power level of 417 he could have beaten king piccolo very easily

I’m not so confident about him speedblitzing vegeta, as its said especially in DBS that vegeta almost ALWAYS has his guard up. It would require you to have a fully off guard vegeta at the start of the fight, which is just kinda a handicap at that point. Even at half his power he’d be able to take a few hits, as nolan would at best be 1/3 planet level, MAYBE half, while some statements put full planet level at 10000. Which would mean that even buffing omni man up to full planet level and vegeta at half his power, he’s still only marginally stronger than vegeta with a 10k to 9k measure. Vegeta has also shown to be able to tank attacks for an extended period of time that surpass him greatly, such as him tanking the x4 kaioken kamehameha (almost twice his power at 32,000) and coming out of it mostly alright. Nolan’s likely not getting past vegeta

@@dreemurrprince Roshi could blow up the moon when he only had a power level of about 100 back in the original DB. If we assume the moon is about one tenth the size of the earth and apply the logic that things don't scale up evenly and that you need exponentially more energy to blow up larger things (the square cube law), it makes sense that it could require 100 times the power level to blow up the earth compared to the moon, which would put the minimum at somewhere around 10,000. Comparatively speaking, Raditz is at a level of about give or take ~1000 to 2000 when he arrives on Earth. Nappa is at around ~4000, and Vegeta is at about ~18,000. This means that out of the three, Vegeta's the only one with enough power to utterly destroy the Earth if the previous calculation is correct, though the others could probably still do some serious damage. As we know Nolan is not planetary, attributing him a DBZ power level (which technically isn't correct since he wouldn't have ki) would probably place him somewhere in the same ballpark as Raditz and Nappa as opposed to Vegeta, so he's definitely going to be disadvantaged. However, we do learn throughout the series that much of what the Saiyans believed about power levels in the early parts of Z in which the concept was introduced was actually propaganda perpetuated by Freeza and his father to help prevent them from having to deal with uprisings against them. The lies are generally founded on basic truths, but are meant to make warriors believe that it's completely futile to put up any resistance. For instance, one such lie is that you are born with your power level and it never changes, something that gets debunked many times over through the course of the series. Another of these lies is that whoever has a higher power level always wins a fight, one that many fans still believe to this day despite it being debunked in the very first fight in DBZ in which Goku and Piccolo are able to team up to defeat the stronger Raditz, something that wouldn't have even been necessary if Goku had been more proactive about using Raditz's tail as his weak spot. This ties into my reasoning regarding Nolan potentially being able to speed blitz Vegeta; Yes Vegeta has a high power level and yes he tends to always have his guard up, but destructive power doesn't equate to defensive durability as the way ki control works requires fighters to actively raise their ki shields to defend against attacks. Vegeta would need to know there was an attack coming to defend against it, and since Nolan's speed isn't connected to power level like it would be for DBZ fighters he's able to move at speeds much, much faster proportional to his strength compared to them. It should be more than possible for him to attack an on guard Vegeta with enough force to kill him before he has a chance to defend against the attack, as Nolan would be moving at speeds too fast for Vegeta's enhanced senses to register in time, let alone move into a defensive posture before impact. He'd be catching Vegeta "off guard" in the sense that he wouldn't specifically be on guard against his attack. Granted, this would require a sneak attack. Because of Vegeta's enormous power, he should be more than capable of keeping his defenses up sufficiently to block anything Nolan could do if he is able to predict it ahead of time. Effectively, if Vegeta's knows about Nolan as a potential threat, it's over. Trying to take the chance to make a dramatic entrance instead of going straight for the kill shot would give Vegeta a massive advantage, dooming Nolan. It really boils down to how likely it is for Nolan to attempt a speed blitz right off the bat rather than trying to look intimidating, giving his presence away. Freeza, like I mentioned before, is a whole different beast however. The leap in power from Saiyan Saga Vegeta to Namek Saga Freeza is truly absurd. His power level is so high that even at the speeds Nolan could move Freeza should be able to defend against it, and even if he couldn't he'd probably just tank the attack regardless since his ki shield would be so absurdly strong that such an attack wouldn't even require a defensive posture to defend against. It would be like when Hercule was punching Cell and doing no damage. There's really nothing Nolan could do against such a terrifying opponent.

@@Crow_Rising i dont have time to read all this yet as its late - but ill read it tomorrow or the next day when im not busy

@@Crow_Rising Not really sure I buy that, though, Vegeta is hardly ever off guard even in a safe situation, especially said by whis. Unless he’s being entirely sneak attacked without any forewarning (even then I doubt vegeta would go completely down below half his power at any given moment before the android saga when he BEGAN to chill out) he’s still STUPIDLY durable. Even though Vegeta had a smaller advantage against Cui (24k to 18k) than the X4 had on him (32k to 18k) he was still pretty okay even after being stuck in the attack for an extended period of time, while Cui was completely vaporized. Unless Nolan gives him the red rush treatment I just don’t see any reasonable way for him to do any significant amount of damage.

@@dreemurrprince Cui's problem was that Vegeta had ample time to raise his ki barrier. They had a conversation before their fight even started, and so there was no hope for Cui to bypass Vegeta's defenses from the start. Even if he had managed to get a sneak attack in though, because of how speed works for Dragon Ball fighters he wouldn't have been able to get as much of a boost from it as Nolan could. Nolan's speed isn't tied to anything like ki, so he's just simply capable of extremely fast movements that completely dwarf anything Vegeta would be capable of at this time. He can reach distant galaxies in mere weeks if not days, and does demonstrate the ability to use this speed in combat in some circumstances, using it to ignite the atmosphere and destroy whole cities just by blitzing through them. As such, he's entirely capable of speeds that would allow him to attack Vegeta with lethal force before he could raise his ki barriers to heighten his durability, as even his heightened senses from his power level wouldn't be able to perceive it coming. He'd be dead before he even knew Nolan was there. While just having a higher power level in general does somewhat boost durability for fighters in Dragon Ball, it's not as effective when it's not intentionally manipulated in such a way as to specifically block an incoming attack. Furthermore, these defenses are mostly effective at countering other ki users, either their ki blasts or their ki enhanced melee attacks. Simple explosive devices such as the bombs planted within Android 16 or more recently Cell Max are stated to be capable of killing the Z Fighters despite being well under planetary in damage potential. Nolan would be plowing into Vegeta at massively faster than light speeds beyond his comprehension without any assistance from ki, so without being able to specifically raise his defenses against it in time Vegeta shouldn't be able to survive simply due to the sheer magnitude of kinetic energy slamming into him. In all honesty I'd have more confidence on this working on Freeza too if not for just how ridiculously powerful and durable he is due to being a mutant with a power level reaching well into the millions. Even if he does somehow take massive damage such as being chopped in half or into tiny bits, the individual pieces of him are still capable of staying alive and he can recover from being pieced back together or receiving bionic replacements. The odds of Nolan being able to inflict that much damage on Freeza are miniscule however considering the sheer magnitude of his power level and therefore his enhanced senses. Even at Nolan's speeds, it's not so unthinkable that Freeza could successfully see such a surprise attack coming and defend against it, or even just dodge it entirely, or counter it with a lethal attack of his own such as a death beam or a simple punch.

Exactly. Vegeta is so much more powerful than Omni-Man even in the Saiyan Saga that it's insane.

@@valleymoto10 yup

Yeah honestly that would be a fun fight to watch

I don't see how Omniman is Namek saga level, also what exactly do you mean by Namek saga? because The power levels were everywhere there, from 1500 (planet+) to over 150000000 (galaxy level),

No it's 10,000 to destroy a planet

​@@romallohenry5700where did you get that number? 💀 you need at least 100 to destroy the moon, king vegeta had less than 10k and destroyed 3 planets by waving his hand

Yeah that's what I'm saying. Ki is not an enhancer to physical strength, you don't see people in dragon ball punching planets and exploding them with their raw power. Only when there is ki involved

@@Nalasysits more like lifting strength isn't equal to striking strength

You’re literally just meat riding at this point. If he was planetary, he wouldn’t have needed help. Also Ki is literally a part of them, it enhances their physical strength.

⁠@@maybe339can they destroy the planet by just hitting it?

The main problem with what you're saying is that you're under the assumption that travel speed is the same as reaction speed, toddler Goku was dodging lightning and even raditz is obviously hundreds of times faster and more powerful than him at that age, Omni man is slow when it comes to fight speed compared to the Saiyan saga

@@ItsAme7143 I guess we could say Omni-man can't utilize is crazy speed in battle. You remember how fast he is going when destroying that alien planet. You would think, he could use a fraction of that. Even superman can at least dodge quick in combat. Though he is also slowed down probably because he would bee too good.