@MrEV I think Renault changed their marketing material. This video from Renault says 30 minutes charge time! kzfaq.info/get/bejne/o9Z8g8ub1t6ym6s.html

We are in a similar position with living in Victorian terracing and owning an ID.3. I can charge on economy 7 if I sit out with the car so I have got myself up a couple of times at 4a.m. for 3 hours of cheap juice. We also have some BP Pulse kerbside chargers in the middle of Rugby where we can leave the car all day on a Sunday if we wanted to charging at 30 pence / kWh. Not a bad price really.

Interestingly, my wife has a similar complaint regarding the roofline, and she's relatively short. The 800v cars from Kia and Hyundai have a much more impressive charging speed. My IONIQ 5 was actually a bit too quick for me quite often!

Just be aware that after some researching not all chargers show the SOC it’s still possibly early days for this Tech. I looked at various providers and it needs more individual research to narrow down wether it is the provider or information available through the handshake with the car .

Great to hear!

Thanks Mike!

Yes - perfectly usable for most people I think. And still better than the Niro/Kona in terms of charge speed.

Yes, the Megane is great. Onto cover the whole of the UK I think?

What a trip! Have a wonderful time. I'm a bit envious!

Great to hear.

Thank you! Work has almost finished me off this month. 😔

Sorry to hear that. Good to see you back on KZfaq again. Always great videos.

Thankfully I love the heat!

@@MrEV ooh lucky you, I find it enervating....my mad wife has just gone down to Folkstone to play bowls! Me and dog are staying in a cool draft at home behind the curtains 😄

@@MrEV Unlike Mrs EV 😁

Congratulations! Great car!

@@MrEV thanks man. They had one in stock at the dealership so collecting it in a few days. Looking forward to it.

Sorry to disappoint!

Simp

Soon!

Yes! Great car.

I haven't. I'm assuming it wasn't very balanced?

@@MrEV well I am surprised the BBC tried to be objective, with views. Worth a watch. On reflection mostly negative than positive.

​@@francodellamura7471I got very cross with it myself. Thought the BBC had an agenda they were sticking to ie to continue promoting FUD! Let's sent someone out in an ev with absolutely no knowledge or research about how to charge it. Let's send them to the remotest and least served areas of the country for chargers and make it look like it's impossible to run an ev anywhere because of the infrastructure. Oh and let's find as many people who were as daft as he was who'd gone out and got an ev with no research and wondered why the charging was so expensive, no mention of how to make charging cheaper and how it's still cheaper than petrol or diesel. For good measure and "balance" let's find one person who's so sanguine about the ease with which he's living with his EV that his comments were a sidebar to the shouty Bob's without a clue.😅😅😅😅😅 Yeah I saw it, not impressed, can you tell?! 🙄🤔😄

It's great! It has to go back later this month unfortunately but I'll be filming a full review (with my wife).

Definitely test drive it. This is what tipped me from the born and 20 years of VAG products. So far really happy with the Mégane. 2.5 months and 6k miles on!

@@garybibby2698 thank you Gary, can I ask what other cars you considered? I currently have an Octavia estate, but only regularly use the cabin space (me, wife, 2 kids), so I could manage with a car with a smaller boot but with a roofbox in the shed for the occasional family holiday. I do a lot of miles (2000 a month) so want something comfy, I’m a big bloke so a great seat is important! My current shortlist contains; ID3, ID4, Enyaq, Kona, Nero, Megane, Volvo XC40 and EX30, Fisker Ocean. Will all depends on what is available to order and how much the lease deals are through the employee scheme come the autumn. I intend to go and test drive and have a good look round each car before I order…

@@gregcooper2719 no worries I gave up waiting for MG marvel R, but I did drive the MG4 (hard to use tech) iD3 (too plasticky/buggy) Born (wasn’t keen on standard specs). I just preferred the drive of the Mégane. I’m 6’3”. Enough room for me. Flat floor can mean legs a bit raised but I am doing similar miles to you comfort. Some don’t like extremely deep boot in Mégane but it is perfect for me.

@@garybibby2698 that’s some great info, thank you. I’m fickle enough where I don’t want a car I don’t like the look of, MG4 and MG5 off the list (subjective I know). Unsure on VAG group cars as I have heard bad things about the infotainment stuff, my octavia one has never worked flawlessly. I like the look of the Megane, and not heard of any niggles or major issues so it’s creeping up my list!

@@gregcooper2719 people get in it and say ‘it this really a Renault? It feels really solid’ However some have said ‘oh the door sounds tinny’- no it’s made of aluminium, not tin! That’s why it’s light (adding to its nimble drive).

The 22kW onboard charger is a massive positive though. I agree though, overall the Megane is great.

@@MrEV Oh that I fully agree - 22kw ac is a must. My complaint really only applies to the DC fast charging. And even more so when you’ve been using an e-gmp car before ! 😅

I think someone said Zoes do it as well so it must be a conscious design decision. Mad!

How did you find it when it was cold?

@@MrEV Still effective at low speed, but above 120 km/h it consumes more. I remember winter at 0 -5 degrees around 200 - 210 wh/km at motorway speed - 120 km/h

It's almost the year anniversary!

You're right - the voice control is very good. I've become mistrusting of voice assistants in cars since they're usually terrible but the Megane (and I imagine Polestar and Volvos which also use Google) is an exception.

The range figure is calculated based on recent journeys. It takes a little time to adjust to your driving style but you should find within a week of driving it, the figure should start going up a bit.

@@MrEV thank you for replying me👍

Very soon, hopefully!

Don't ask her opinion, if she doesn't like it, you may have to return the megane... 😂

IONITY's relatively cheap these days compared to many networks. I never thought I'd hear myself say that!

@@MrEV Time for another comparison

The original Zoe was uniquely able to charge at 43kW on AC, so that’s why. No other EVs (to my knowledge) are able to. 43kW are becoming increasingly rare though.

I’ll be interested to hear if anyone else has had that issue, but it certainly doesn’t sound right to me. People charge EVs at 0% without having to wait. Have you tried another rapid? Could it be the charger at fault?

@@MrEV I believe there's a compatibility issue with charger and the Megane.Another brand has compatibility issues and Renault are working on a fix.I've got some charge into the car using Tesco Pod-Point.The saga will continue tomorrow as we've established it's not the car and the focus is on Alfen.

I had the air con on the way back as well. Yes, I am hoping to do a long term review before it goes back.

I had charging for free (well, included in the subscription) which is why I didn't mention it, but that would be £30.03 using the Octopus Electroverse RFID card/app. (65p/kWh) For anyone using IONITY regularly, their "Passport" subscription is very good as it makes it much cheaper. ionity.eu/en/passport

@@MrEV Thanks 👍🏼

As far as I’ve seen only iconic trip gets heat pump. My techno hasn’t still a great car. Keep it a smidge under 70 and you’ll get ok efficiency.

Charging is included with my Onto subscription.

It was 'free' for me as charging is included with Onto, but it'd be £29.18 if I was using the Octopus Electroverse RFID card. £36.60 using IONITY's app. For anyone regularly doing long distances, there's a service called Elli which gets even better rates with IONITY if you subscribe.

You might (if you're very lucky) be able to get a second-hand Kona, Soul, or Niro for that now. Worth talking to Eco-cars: eco-cars.net There are a lot of i3s around for that sort of money now too.

Yeah , I do keep looking at the i3 s , I’ll check out eco cars . Thanks , keep up the great content .

I should have pinned this comment I wrote to someone else who asked the same: It was 'free' for me as charging is included with Onto, but it'd be £29.18 if I was using the Octopus Electroverse RFID card. £36.60 using IONITY's app. For anyone regularly doing long distances, there's a service called Elli which gets even better rates with IONITY if you subscribe.

Nooooo! At least it wasn't to 100%!

Don't give her any ideas! Although she never watches my videos anyway, so I'm safe in the knowledge she's unlikely to read your comment!

That's definitely an issue. Onto now offer subscriptions without charging included so hopefully that stops the charger hogging a little.

Yes, and I'm kicking myself about that! I should know better considering I have air conditioning at home!

@@MrEV I'm now thinking that the AC needs to always be available to cool the battery to prevent damage and the humans just get the excess when they request cooling. So maybe it does need to have AC to always be available, even if the cabin needs to be warmed. This is the only thing that makes sense to me as obviously the AC can't produce hot and cold at the same time. Hence the need for a separate system. I wonder if there is a opportunity to tap into excess heat from the battery. Unsure if current EVs do this (I'm still on a ICE car at the moment)

@@RichardBrooklyn if you are a long time watcher of Bjorn Nyland's videos, he usually manages to dig into if and how the aircon competes with rapid charging speed in one of his tests.

I got charging for free with this car from subscription service Onto.

@@MrEV Ok, I'll have to look into that Onto further. Is that not simply a leasing company however where the lease is relatively expensive per month?

@@barryh9653 Unfortunately they've gone into administration now. They did work out as a relatively good deal for anyone wanting a short-term lease, but they obviously couldn't sustain it. More info here if you're interested: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/f8lzqa6B1celqHk.html

@@MrEV That's a shame 😔. I was thinking of using them myself for a month to see how I get on with an EV for that period of time. Unfortunately the website did not have the car I wanted to test in my area.

It'd be interesting, but I just don't enjoy driving ICE cars as much. I can see how the EV experience right now can be a struggle for some people but for me, charging at home 95% of the time and rarely having issues public charging, I'm happy to put up with any occasional problems while infrastructure catches up. Anyone buying a used EV right now can get a really good deal but I agree the depreciation on new ones is bad now - although probably about the same as it's always been for ICE?

The home charging issue is just with the Megane; not any other EV I've had. And waking up to a charged car (for 2p per mile) easily makes up for the occasional public charge! That said, when I had the IONIQ 5 that was an absolute dream for public charging as it's so much faster. (The same would be true with the Kia EV6 and IONIQ 6.) They also pre-heat the battery now so the cold weather doesn't affect the charging speed as much. I'm going to be driving to Italy again this summer. I really wish I had the IONIQ 5 again for that!

Yawn. I charge overnight at home 95% of the time. 5 mins seems like a very long time in comparison..

But ICE drivers do discuss how much it costs to fill the tank. I only charge my EV once a week and it costs me about £8.00.

Great video. You probably know that air conditioning uses a basic form of heat pump so cooling is the same, it’s just heating is where a PTC heater would be used. Now that nerdy reply is done I’m off to the FastNed site to look at my charging curve…. NERD 🙈

@@ObiePaddles I charge completely for free at the moment. How much will I save per year compared to a fossil? I drive around 15000 km/year at the moment.

Any new technology brings with it a transition period. There would have been similar challenges and interest when we moved from horses to combustion engines.