I know 200hp isn't 'fast', but I'm currently driving a 155hp Mazda 3 manual that weighs in at a solid 200lbs heavier than the Fiesta, so it's still gonna be a decent step up for me. Plus I can take out a muffler or cat and be extra roudy. The idling skyactiv engine sounds like it has a bag of rocks in the pan.

does your '17 ST have the Recaros? i'm trying to decide if they're worth it or not. Plus, i'm kind of a big guy at 6'2', 255. Any input would be greatly appreciated. Cheers!

@@turbogeoduck1 I don't know for sure but see if Matt Farah had recaro's in his FiST. He's not a small dude.

@@turbogeoduck1 I may be a little too late since your comment was posted over 2 months ago, but I got a chance to sit in both the regular seats and the Recaros and personally I thought the Recaros were too agressive for daily driving. The regular seats are much more comfortabl, at least in my opinion. The only drawback would be that you dont get a heated seat option without the recaros, but in California that isnt really a problem.

@@turbogeoduck1 I test drove both with and without the Recaros and I bought a used 2017 without them. I think they would be great for someone slightly smaller than me, but for anyone above the 6' mark or slightly overweight they are a bit uncomfortable.

Bruce Solomon Exactly! I have a green 2014 FiST, but I was interested in the redesign. Ford screwed us over!

Everyone says they want a Miata wagon in manual, but not enough people bought the Fiesta ST. Sadface.

FORD, america's company..... if they wanted these cars to sell like they do in Europe, how about a dual clutch. America doesn't drive sticks like Europe.

Bruce Solomon makes no sense at all.

Screw you FORD for taking all the fun CARS away from the USA. Now we are stuck with tippy, high riding, boring SUV’s and trucks. Not everyone wants a gas hog truck or SUV. Now the imports are going to continue to just destroy you in sales. Hyundai, Honda, Toyota, Nissan, hell even Mini now have the car market all to themselves. Just wait unit the price of gas spikes again and y’all have no product to sell. Dumb asses.

Spencer Forman great tire choice bro. Love my Indy 5’s

What tires have you tried previously? I had the non plus version and I wasn't too impressed. They were alright.

Why so many tires? Wtf

@@tweedpenguin712 Because I drive hard in turns, and actually I’m on my 6th now, at 98,800. I have them rotated every 5,000 miles. I have the Pilot Sport Michelin A/S 4’s, I had two sets of the A/S 3+, there warranty was 45,000 miles and I wear them out at 20,000+ so the pro rate them so get the next set for $480 it’s a deal, they grip so good, and there smooth riding and quiet and never track on freeway grooves. Highly recommend these tires. The Fiesta Flash 🤙🏼🍺🍺

Same here.

Cuz people need cars that drive for them, why would they want a car you have to actually drive..Sounds boring....LOL

Just Me, I agree; TFL generally does a pretty good job but is starting to fall into the clickbait trap more and more IMO. I know channels like this live by clicks and with the current KZfaq algorithm, it makes it tough but it still doesn’t feel right and honorable when I see it.

Im sure that car was a lot lighter also so power to weight ratio was much better in the old ford.

LEXUriouS Kirk Lexus is slow and very heavy

Chase Short right? Lol. Not fun at all.

Civic LX Sedan (Hatchback has the Turbo vs 2.0L in the Sedan)

8 second 0-60 is not impressive 😂

@@tweedpenguin712 since ST is old new, perhaps time for basic Civic for replacement

not if you get the RS

I'm wait for a car that earns it, that will be a fun test! Bring me a La Ferrari, that should do it!

If I had one.

bernard_hossmoto I want 40 grand

You can get a used one for 30 k or under.

chris johnson Yeah with blown gaskets. No thanks.

Subaru's are way bigger though, more in the line of a Focus, and that does have an AWD platform

Metalbass79 yeah brother just get the focus rs if thats what you are looking for

You want them to spend the money on adding AWD to a car no one buys?

728 Autos I just figured they would've sold better if they made them AWD. Especially in states with snow. I've never understood why American manufacturers let Subaru corner the market on that. I'm an F150 and V8 Mustang guy but I do talk to a lot of people at auto meets. A lot of them with a Subaru or AWD Mitsubishi said that they loved the ST because it was light and fast, but the AWD swayed them elsewhere.

Metalbass79 adding AWD to something isn't going to make it sell better. The market numbers show this. Sure it might tickle the fancy of us enthusiast but we are but a small niche and niche products aren't going to be money makers for Ford.

There is another agenda at play here. Ford is not the only car maker quietly doing away with the manual transmission. They are also doing away with the normal automatic transmissions and are all going to these new garbage CVT monstrosities that are nothing but a $4000 rubber belt that wears out around 30K-100K miles so you have to either buy another transmission or buy another crap car. Planned obsolescense all under the fake premise of "govt mandated fuel econonmy" . HOGWASH! That has NOTHING to do with it! They could make the normal style vehicles get 80 mpg if they wanted to but they are in cahootz with Big Oil so they must scratch each other's backs. This whole CVT thing is also so the govt can control our cars remotely due to them being run off some kind of programmable computer disc. More govt CONTROL is what it all boils down to and every time the govt sticks their big long hook nose into our business......we get a good screwing and nothing ever is the same again.

Dwayne Dawson yes only the ST Still getting the new fiesta

This aged well

Doom Guy ...silver rims come with the pilot sport all seasons, black rims come with Bridgestone potenza summer tires

also the 0-60 doesn't reflect how fast the car is. you don't get full boost in first gear and you have to shift to hit 60mph. also the tune-ability of the car and after market support is amazing. i recommend the car if you are into small quick cars. there is nothing that compares to the deal this thing is.

you might be closer to sea level

demiru North American spec.

Jonathan L I want one so bad I’m looking right now

Wanna buy mine?

Conner Matthie yes, are you in the midwest?

Blastez YT yes there is a 2018 but there won't be a 2019. In Europe they have the new one for 2018 while in the US it stayed the same as the 2017 for it's last year here.

Michael Reitz thank you

Did you decide? 😳

hey look, its Herman Munster.....hahahaha

I'm 6" and comfortably fit in my fiesta without the seat being all the way back and I'm a hefty guy too and it's fairly spacious even for me

I’m 5’6. Please donate 6” and we’ll be even. 😁😁

I’m 6’2” and the car fits me perfectly your back seat will be nonexistent but you can 100% fit this car

Bryant Monroe That was my problem with the mk7 fiesta ST ,. I felt squashed . Oddly my Girls mate has a 1.2 Zetec Which feels a bit more roomier , I think the Chunky ST Seat makes less room. I settled on the focus st

Nvr Dwn about six cars below the ford on the list towards the end.

So we get the Mexican name for party "Fiesta" and Mexico gets the American name for Fiesta "Party"........Now that's some clever Orwellian marketing for you.

Reg Sparkes the American people only want big pointless cars like the Challenger..😂😂

Without any marketing campaign, of course sales are down. How do you buy a product, if you don't know it exists. LOL To sell the fiesta, focus, fusion, etc. One does not need to be number one. How about top 5 or even top 10??

Honda and Toyota has great car sales. The problem with Ford is the quality of the cars they are selling. I bought a regular Ford fiesta as a commuter and it was nothing but junk, the transmission was constantly slipping, multiple electrical issues, and the dealer didn't want to warranty some of the issue while the car had less than 5000 miles on it.

Well, folks are buying Ford's most iconic models, the F-series trucks (71 years, over 40 million sold) and the Mustang (54 years, over 9 million sold). Both outsell the competition, so Ford gives them more love. Fusion & Flex are recommended buys from Consumer Reports. I'm surprised they didn't get rid of the Focus, which has similar problems to the Fiesta.

cadsux ... Actually they FORD is stopping production of the focus. They are going to replace with a cross-over focus type. Something like a subaru type... YUK!! The tuner cars from FORD are dead!!

......naw ,..I won't say it!

Good. Tommy deserves it lol

Wow big difference

In 8.8 seconds?

Agreed. Bring a real German.

You obviously don’t know what happens to horsepower at a mile above sea level 😉

jj rr because you would get a big oversized fiesta looking van thing

The Fiesta's lap time was almost 2 seconds faster then the VW GTI.

VW is overpriced

I have a 2016 Focus ST with 108000 all stock. Surprisingly Ford drew my attention and proved me wrong. Only thing that sucks is that the interior quality consist of hard plastic but as far as performance, a true bang for buck.

197*

this car probably has the same if not better power to weight ratio which is all that matters. the speed3 is too over priced even used cost more than a fiST

Here you can get a used Mazda speed 3 cheaper than a used Fiesta ST I believe, I almost got one but the crazy torque steer and unruly nature kind of scared me away from it, I haven't driven one though. Some people say it's not that bad, others say it's a bit nuts.

@musical roses Might as well get a FiST Then, it's more refined than the Mazdaspeed 3 I think.

@musical roses Nice, so you have a Fiesta ST now? How do they compare so far? I've never actually driven a Mazdaspeed3.

Angel Gutierrez a mile above sea level

They're a mile above sea level. Air isn't as thick there. At sea level it's more around 7 seconds. for a 1.6 liter that's more than respectable. That's only a half second slower than the supercharged 3.8 liter in the grand prix GTP for a difference of 2.2 liters, both forced induction.

buildmorefarms100 if you paid attention to the video it showed the lap times of 2 VW GTIs and they were 2 seconds slower than the Fiesta ST.

Oh someones angry :) I saw the times but that was different day and different conditions..weather..temp etc. Not the same.

It looks like we have no choice, John !

Not Mustangs, fortunately.

yep, it’s nice that they’re promoting safety.

Oh Im all for safety but there is safety and then theres is wimpiness. This is latter. The kids today are already pussified to no end.

The car is completely stock with no roll cage or race seat/harness..If anything happened to the car at 60mph and the vehicle quickly veered off course and rolls over.. having safety gear would make him a wimp? The possibility is definitely there

it's a track rule...

Paul Gerrard, just curious, does this rule apply differently to you as a professional driver or to everyone equally?

BaileyPaws similar cars.. I think the ST would be quicker around that course, and 0-60 short wheelbase hatchbacks love Corning... but the civic will shine in real life driving.. the new Si is a bullet on the highway for what it is..

The Si is faster in a straight line. It did an 8.02 vs the fiesta st 8.55 when it was 0-60 tested. The fiesta will perform better on this specific track because of its smaller frame which is better for a corner mostly track like this one

Not a fan of the Civic si at all, I wanted to like it but it doesn't handle at all, the Fiesta runs rings around it. We tested it last year.

If I'm not mistaken the Si was listed on the list of lap times and it was near the bottom. And the new Si isn't very fast at all. I raced a couple with my Focus ST and I easily pulled away. The previous generation was faster.

Michael Reitz wrong. Stop pulling shit out of your ass. Coming from the last gen Si and this gen Si, the new one is easily faster and it isn't even close. Even the current gen non Si civic is fastee than the previous gen Si.