How fear of nuclear power is hurting the environment | Michael Shellenberger

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7 жыл бұрын

"We're not in a clean energy revolution; we're in a clean energy crisis," says climate policy expert Michael Shellenberger. His surprising solution: nuclear. In this passionate talk, he explains why it's time to overcome longstanding fears of the technology, and why he and other environmentalists believe it's past time to embrace nuclear as a viable and desirable source of clean power.
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@antonlanthier5122
@antonlanthier5122 7 жыл бұрын
I'm shocked France was not mentioned once in this video. 76% of our energy comes from nuclear plants, and we have had a large nuclear energy program since the early 1970s, without a single incident.
@theicedragon100
@theicedragon100 7 жыл бұрын
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@metzgergine
@metzgergine 7 жыл бұрын
Yup, I sure hope LFTR's are going to be developed here too, that would be awesome, but I did not see any of our electricity giants talk about it. Unfortunately, our classical reactors still generates nuclear waste that we barely know how to handle on the midterm of their lives.
@zolikoff
@zolikoff 7 жыл бұрын
LFTRs are unlikely to be adopted over uranium-fueled molten salt reactors. The only advantage of using the thorium fuel cycle right now would be that thorium is more abundant in the Earth's crust, though uranium supplies in the crust will last for a few hundred years anyway, by which point we'd be using some other energy source. Finally, we are developing uranium seawater extraction, and there is vastly more uranium in the oceans than thorium in the crust, so if that technology works out, the only advantage of thorium disappears.
@metzgergine
@metzgergine 7 жыл бұрын
nope, not only is it more abundant, but it's present in many places on earth, not requiring an energy dependency between countries, reducing conflicts over uranium resources, no need for coastal access, etc... BTW it's easily extractable today too... Plus, Uranium decay cycle can still be used to produce weapons, not the thorium because or the emission of high gamma rays easily detectable telling where the stuff is like a planet wide lantern.
@k3nny111
@k3nny111 7 жыл бұрын
"without a single incident", you forgot something there, buddy: yet.
@bmatth06
@bmatth06 7 жыл бұрын
I read a quote once that sums this presentation, and ppls fear of nuclear perfectly. " we live in a world exquisitely dependent on science and technology, in which hardly anyone knows anything about science or technology.
@McFmp11
@McFmp11 7 жыл бұрын
brandan matthews carl sagan!
@KittyBoom360
@KittyBoom360 7 жыл бұрын
To be fair, it's not just science and tech. It's anything distinctive to you, which you then see in everything.
@theicedragon100
@theicedragon100 7 жыл бұрын
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@kruxy404
@kruxy404 7 жыл бұрын
except there are individuals who spend their lifetimes perusing scientific knowledge, their time and knowledge isn't in vain, it's knowledge of the sciences that has improved our quality of life, without it you wouldn't even be able to share your opinion here
@Itsatz0
@Itsatz0 7 жыл бұрын
Maybe if you did a little reading you may understand something.
@AlexIr99
@AlexIr99 5 жыл бұрын
"By contrast the waste that we don't control, from energy production, we call it pollution and it kills 7 million people a year" This.
@herosandwich3220
@herosandwich3220 5 жыл бұрын
Radioactive antimony from coal fly ash produces more ionizing radiation than every barrel of nuclear waste ever produced along with every nuclear disaster in less than a year. The entirety of mercury contamination in the food chain also comes from burning coal. Sticking with chemical bond energy rather than nuclear energy is at this point advocating for stone over rubber in tires.
@bearcatben4762
@bearcatben4762 5 жыл бұрын
And what people don't realize is that Chernobyl wasn't as bad as it seems, because everyone constantly says that it was a horribly built reactor (it was mostly) but the whole reason it failed was because the operators ignored safety protocols.
@turkergoktas777
@turkergoktas777 5 жыл бұрын
@@bearcatben4762 rbmk design was actually genious it produces energy and allow to harvest plutonium at high rates
@turkergoktas777
@turkergoktas777 5 жыл бұрын
one addition i want to add in coal plants when you are making fuel budget you dont factorize the waste in nuclear you do
@peterwestberg9894
@peterwestberg9894 5 жыл бұрын
At least that kind of pollution can be eliminated as technology advances. The coal/oil/gas plants of today are magnitudes cleaner than they used to be, and that will only improve as time goes on. Not so with nuclear....we can NEVER clean up areas such as the 100's of square miles around Chernobyl or Fukushima. How many more places on Planet Earth do you want to destroy forever? The kind of pollution you just sited doesn't threaten us as a species...we can deal with it as a species....but we are uniquely and exquisitely vulnerable to radiation and fissile decay products. In fact, in the presence of certain nuclides, such as iodine, our body actually actively absorbs it! People like you are IIINNNSSSAAANNNEEE to think nuclear power can EVER be an option to cure our energy problems. INSANE!
@averagejoe6031
@averagejoe6031 4 жыл бұрын
Germany: we need to end global warming Also Germany: We need to ban all nuclear power
@chriswatson3464
@chriswatson3464 4 жыл бұрын
The nuclear power in Germany wasn't the same as it was in France. But don't worry coal use is falling dramatically in Germany.
@DominikJuric
@DominikJuric 3 жыл бұрын
@@chriswatson3464 Because they replace it with Russian gas.
@chriswatson3464
@chriswatson3464 3 жыл бұрын
@@DominikJuric wind and solar is going up faster.
@Killerkolt75
@Killerkolt75 3 жыл бұрын
@@chriswatson3464 ur an idiot... u actually think the human race can rely solely on wind a solar? Your sadly mistaken if you think massive cities with millions of people can all rely on solar and wind, nuclear power HAS to be the backbone of human energy generation. Having solar and wind as a second alternative incase a nuclear reactor were to fail somehow would be good too but we cannot rely on solar and wind its simply too unreliable
@devenkadne
@devenkadne 3 жыл бұрын
I can understand their reluctance given what happened in Winden.
@enceladus2263
@enceladus2263 5 жыл бұрын
3:30 Californians care more about being seen as environmentalists than actually improving the environment.
@LightWingStudios
@LightWingStudios 5 жыл бұрын
Uh...BULLSHIT. Go back and look at the air pollution in California 30-40 years ago and compare it to today. Then...HOLD MY BEER!
@josephgaviota
@josephgaviota 5 жыл бұрын
That pretty much sums up the left ... it's all about "feels," not "reals."
@winomaster
@winomaster 5 жыл бұрын
@@LightWingStudios Pollution is improved everywhere in the US. The much more expensive standards in CA have yielded little more.
5 жыл бұрын
Of course a member of an extremist reactionary anti-freedom group such as the libertarians, is a great and objective source of information. Shouldn't you be bombing abortion clinics, blaming the poor for not being rich or doing other libertarian things, rather than commenting here?
@winomaster
@winomaster 5 жыл бұрын
@ Right, those libertarians are famous for extreamism and violence. I would ignore the fool.
@tippity-toptown1725
@tippity-toptown1725 7 жыл бұрын
I feel that a lot of our nuclear problems would be solved if Mr. Burns just fired Homer.
@DigitalWraith
@DigitalWraith 7 жыл бұрын
*D'oh!*
@bergonius
@bergonius 7 жыл бұрын
No, a lot of our nuclear problems would be solved if there was much more nuclear plants.
@capableloop82
@capableloop82 7 жыл бұрын
Maarrgee Mr. Burns fired me again!
@interamerichanic
@interamerichanic 5 жыл бұрын
Actually, the portrayal of nuclear in popular programs like The Simpsons is a big part of the problem.
@Amatronix999
@Amatronix999 5 жыл бұрын
@@interamerichanic Pretty sure the problem is Chernobyl and fukushima -and the lack of tech to clean it up.
@sempergumby3929
@sempergumby3929 5 жыл бұрын
Last time I checked, massively more people have been killed by airplane crashes than by nuclear power. There was a time when people commonly feared air travel but people began to look at the facts v. misplaced fears. If we can just begin to replace misplaced fears with facts regarding nuclear power, we can begin to move back in the right direction.
@Sol-os5pk
@Sol-os5pk 5 жыл бұрын
You should have used a better comparison. Stupid people are still scared of airplanes. Say something like being eaten by a whale or whatever
@nanthompson3888
@nanthompson3888 4 жыл бұрын
According to John Stossel, more people have died installing solar panels .
@covenantremnant
@covenantremnant 4 жыл бұрын
Nobody is going to tell you that cancer is one of the main side affects of nuclear anything.
@lynns4122
@lynns4122 4 жыл бұрын
To be fair I think more people have been on planes than been near nuclear plants.
@joeschmoe2843
@joeschmoe2843 4 жыл бұрын
But since you can get cancer from everything, it’s like sayin the sky’s blue.
@-gemberkoekje-5547
@-gemberkoekje-5547 4 жыл бұрын
Also the difference between nuclear waste and waste from coal, is that nuclear energy is a solid that can be stored, but fossil fuel power is just being pumped into the sky
@magicaltomatoes
@magicaltomatoes 4 жыл бұрын
People greatly overestimate the strenght of the radiation coming from that waste too, even if there was a containment leak it's not gonna kill potentially thousands of people like a dam breaking would for example.
@HalNordmann
@HalNordmann 4 жыл бұрын
Actually, the ash from coal is also slightly radioactive, due to radionuclides in coal.
@SeraphsWitness
@SeraphsWitness 3 жыл бұрын
@@magicaltomatoes Yea, people think of "radiation" purely in terms of nuclear. Again just a lack of understanding of the technology.
@porkchoppeaches
@porkchoppeaches Жыл бұрын
Yea, Fukushima , Chernobyl , big deal right ? And we’ll all be long gone when that radioactive waste is leaking out of their containers.
@-gemberkoekje-5547
@-gemberkoekje-5547 Жыл бұрын
@@porkchoppeaches Those are all solvable mistakes.
@hotpotato265
@hotpotato265 7 жыл бұрын
“The planet is fine. The people are fucked.” -George Carlin
@ZaDowlan
@ZaDowlan 7 жыл бұрын
beautiful. could not of said it any better. it's the truth too. the planet doesn't care. it will recover. it's bounced back from a lot worse.
@Tran-ll2it
@Tran-ll2it 7 жыл бұрын
hotpotato True, the Earth has gone through many things, the only things to just die out are the species.
@cleodreemurr9262
@cleodreemurr9262 7 жыл бұрын
actually we've created so much carbon scientists think the earth cant bounce back
@ZaDowlan
@ZaDowlan 7 жыл бұрын
we didn't "create" any carbon or anything else for that matter. it's been here the whole time. in the ground where nature put it. we're digging it up and nature will put it back in the ground again if it has to.
@91765243wise
@91765243wise 7 жыл бұрын
we're redistributing the carbon into the atmosphere, unfortunately it take a MUUUUUCCCHHH longer time for that to settle and return to the ground @Zach Dowlan
@KafshakTashtak
@KafshakTashtak 7 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: For the same amount of energy, the radiation hazard of fly ash from burning coal is more than radiation hazard from a nuclear power plant. In fact if you separate the uranium in the coal, and use it in a nuclear power plant, you obtain more energy than burning that coal.
@arthurdent6256
@arthurdent6256 7 жыл бұрын
SAHM That sounds like bullshit, but I'd rather breath nuclear waste steam than coal dust.
@KafshakTashtak
@KafshakTashtak 7 жыл бұрын
Arthur Dent Once I did the calculation to make sure it's correct. There are articles about it as well.
@Arcayenneist
@Arcayenneist 7 жыл бұрын
It's actually pretty correct. Never did calculations about the uranium-from-coal bit, but fly-ash from Coal will irradiate you 3x more than living near a nuclear reactor, guaranteed. We nuclear operators actually get less radiation than the average individual because the plants are so well shielded not just from the reactors, but from the outside as well to both minimize false-positives and because materials used for containment tend to shield as well.
@arthurdent6256
@arthurdent6256 7 жыл бұрын
David McFarland I've heard you'll get more radiation while flying then you would by hugging the outside of the reactor shield.
@Arcayenneist
@Arcayenneist 7 жыл бұрын
Arthur, mostly true. A good number of my adventures into the reactor compartment on my boat left me with less exposure than most of the flights I went on across the country. That being said, working in a reactor compartment for a few weeks at a time once got me 50mrem, and there are certain areas that naturally have hot-spots, but anyone marginally trained on how nuclear power plants work can guess at those and avoid them, and we were definitely more than "marginally trained." But yes, hugging the primary-shield will typically not get you much at all, which is about as close as you can get. Hugging the control rod motors will get you even less. A Trans-American flight will net you 4mrem of exposure. A Trans-Pacific flight will net you 7mrem of exposure. The Tokyo Bay area, where I was during Fukushima, got 4mrem additional exposure from the Fukushima-plumes... over the course of a few months. Combined with the naturally low background radiation that Japan has, there are two groups of people who comically got more radiation that I did, while I was being exposed to fallout from Fukushima: 1) Anyone who fled Japan. 2) Almost anyone living in America.
@tuongpham7609
@tuongpham7609 5 жыл бұрын
Anyone here because of the "green new deal" wanting to reduce nuclear power?
@Kim-Yo-jong
@Kim-Yo-jong 5 жыл бұрын
Yes! I hate the constant fearmongering of solutions that will actually work.
@salmahyenasashimicheetah6888
@salmahyenasashimicheetah6888 4 жыл бұрын
Because nuclear power doesn't fit their narrative. Fear is needed to control. If the public figures out that nuclear energy is as promising as it is they won't be as scared of climate change which means they don't have pawns to control anymore.
@farisabuain6832
@farisabuain6832 3 жыл бұрын
So dumb. Honestly.
@mylessonsradio9793
@mylessonsradio9793 3 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of CFL light bulbs holding back the production of LEDs.
@ddoumeche
@ddoumeche 3 жыл бұрын
well, the green new deal is actually a recipe for a mass scale holocaust. But nuclear and wind and solar alone are far insufficient to satisfy our needs and will represent 10% of energy consumption in 2030, combined
@Lewis360
@Lewis360 5 жыл бұрын
The illiterate are the most vocal, ignorance seems very attractive in today's world.
@abdulrahmanchalya7873
@abdulrahmanchalya7873 5 жыл бұрын
If people weren't so ignorant trump would have won every single vote
@cgortz89
@cgortz89 5 жыл бұрын
@@abdulrahmanchalya7873 ?? The opposite! The reason that Trump was elected is because people are ignorant. Otherwise there wouldn't be an enviornmental denier on the president post. Unfortunately, a lot of people make bad priorities and it shows in the political leaders.
@abdulrahmanchalya7873
@abdulrahmanchalya7873 5 жыл бұрын
@@cgortz89 I'm pretty sure Donald Trump doesn't deny an environment existing I'm pretty sure peoples priority on giving people jobs and helping out small businesses and not trying to elect a corrupt politician and avoiding nuclear war aren't bad. The reality is that Donald Trump is good
@cgortz89
@cgortz89 5 жыл бұрын
​@@abdulrahmanchalya7873 Avoiding nuclear war is pretty much the only one I got out of why people would elect Trump. But Trump denies to a big extent that humans affect the environement. That is definitly to be an environmental denier.
@TheTpointer
@TheTpointer 5 жыл бұрын
@@abdulrahmanchalya7873 and does he really help small businesses. I thought the big tax cut where for big corporations alone. xD
@bryanmartinez6600
@bryanmartinez6600 5 жыл бұрын
Nuclear is splitting apart those poor atom families How dare they take their children electrons as Nucleus and Protons are being murdered! Atom families matter!!!
@diegosilang4823
@diegosilang4823 5 жыл бұрын
Atoms have higher divorce rate than humans.
@Jaden-up3bg
@Jaden-up3bg 5 жыл бұрын
@@diegosilang4823 YES
@TheJdm007
@TheJdm007 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent !
@thequesomanishere
@thequesomanishere 5 жыл бұрын
Heh. Nuclear family
@mwhathaway
@mwhathaway 4 жыл бұрын
... And not including the God particle causes decay in the nuclear family.
@DGill48
@DGill48 4 жыл бұрын
Retired Physics teacher. Huge frustration; I've been explaining to young pre-adults about nuclear and the huge advantage for decades. Just no one seems to get it.
@Nick-yv1wy
@Nick-yv1wy 4 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately you have to either be very involved with Physics or be a prior or current engineer to really understand it. It's not taught much to non-engineers. Also it seems Americans are very reactionary and side with political ideals over scientific ones.
@JK-gu3tl
@JK-gu3tl 4 жыл бұрын
Ted Ed could do video.
@curranfrank2854
@curranfrank2854 4 жыл бұрын
My physics teacher actually did the same thing, and as a result I started looking into nuclear more and became a huge proponent of it. Maybe you had more of an impact than you thought.
@patrickgjorven7832
@patrickgjorven7832 3 жыл бұрын
Love physics, and still apply it every day at the shooting range! Thank you coriolis effect, spin drift, and ballistic coefficients!
@stevejones69420
@stevejones69420 3 жыл бұрын
@@Nick-yv1wy never before have I seen a comment I absolutely 100% agree with
@CJW0056
@CJW0056 5 жыл бұрын
Decent presentation I'd say. Not great, not terrible. I'd give it a 3.6 out of 15,000 roentgen.
@corngrohlio
@corngrohlio 5 жыл бұрын
I give this comment a Ben Shaprio out of Thunderf00t
@deathwatch6081
@deathwatch6081 5 жыл бұрын
Oh no lol... an RBMK reactor can’t explode!
@SonicWizards
@SonicWizards 5 жыл бұрын
Deathwatch 60 an intercontinental ballistic missile reactor can, in fact, explode. And not by lies, but by the push of a button. Just saying
@bryanmartinez6600
@bryanmartinez6600 5 жыл бұрын
I give it a Fukushima out of Hiroshima
@SimplySpace
@SimplySpace 5 жыл бұрын
@@deathwatch6081 *RBMK
@Gangst3r4ever
@Gangst3r4ever 5 жыл бұрын
Just don't put comrade Dyatlov in charge next time
@tindroyes
@tindroyes 4 жыл бұрын
Or don't let him go to the bathroom in the middle of an important test :P
@klytouch5285
@klytouch5285 3 жыл бұрын
I guess let us go Nuclear power then.. at the meantime..😋 let the green shifting it's political views..😋
@justdoit1200
@justdoit1200 7 жыл бұрын
the problem with TED talks is that the audience, direct or through recordings, is already relatively educated on these subjects.. this doesn't reach the general population to give any intended result/change
@drewpierpont3361
@drewpierpont3361 5 жыл бұрын
And then we can all refer this to our dumbass friends and family members. It's a propagation of information.
@quangho8120
@quangho8120 5 жыл бұрын
Still better than not saying anything at all. And they post it on the internet so I think it helps
@YuliyValenko
@YuliyValenko 5 жыл бұрын
People who are building nuclair plants are also educated. Same for those who decide whether to build them or not.
@HZeshka
@HZeshka 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah. My friends and my family already know that nuclear power is clean and safe. And I live in Ukraine, the country where Chernobyl happened.
@scfdx2
@scfdx2 4 жыл бұрын
@@YuliyValenko those who decide ti build then aren't neccesarily educated on the subject. In fact, I can argue they are (effectively) the LEAST educated on the matter. The reason for that is that all of them are in the end politicians. and as politicians go, they have to fulfil tge demands of the majority - even when this demand is uneducated (which is the case here).
@krixig
@krixig 7 жыл бұрын
I actually work at a nuclear generation facility, and although it might come off as an obvious bias, I can't say that Ive ever seen anything occur here that makes me question the validity of the technology. As the speaker said, draconian politics and public superstition regarding the technology are the spears that bring these giants down and its a shame. Perhaps another great irony is that the surrounding area on the company property is a veritable nature preserve. Foxes, mink, turkey, whitetail, you name it and its well represented and cant be hunted.
@marcuspun3822
@marcuspun3822 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah but what about what SoCal Edison did to skirt the rules and try to push more output out of their now dead reactors?
@turkergoktas777
@turkergoktas777 5 жыл бұрын
@Matt S transuranics will still be a problem
@peterwestberg9894
@peterwestberg9894 5 жыл бұрын
Take it off planet earth, it's proven to be too dangerous time after time. We don't understand it well enough to control it under all circumstances and then there's the human fallibility factor at work. Plus human beings in general and human children in particular are amazingly susceptible to it's toxic and degenerative effects. No, enough of planet earth have already been rendered uninhabitable effectively forever. No more! Get a grip! OMG, how anyone can actually WANT this form of energy generation today is beyond me. I'd rather spends a zillion dollars to get fusion figured out and up and running than build one more fission plant. Nuclear isn't the answer!
@EFSpartan
@EFSpartan 5 жыл бұрын
@Matt S Wait what? Fusion is inherently unsafe? Fusion can't have a runaway reaction while fission can. Fusion doesn't have residual radiation. Yea we can't get it to work yet but there's a giant ball of fusion that provides every bit of power we ever use on this planet. The Sun.
@EFSpartan
@EFSpartan 5 жыл бұрын
@Matt S Lol I've been reading about Nuclear Fusion for the last Decade. There are some engineering hurdles to overcome but this isn't Spiderman 2 where Doc Oct destroys Manhattan. Also they have recently broken even with energy vs Energy out. You tell me what is inherently dangerous of Nuclear Fusion. Because your example of Free neutron hitting the inside of a reactor is the same thing that happens in a fission reactor. Which we have plenty of. So all of a sudden you're an expert in nuclear physics and engineering, and the thousands of scientist working on ITER and not mention Lockheed and other ventures are completely bullshit?
@johnthegreek7356
@johnthegreek7356 5 жыл бұрын
Finally someone who actually cares about the environment
@ssheeessh
@ssheeessh 4 жыл бұрын
Can we talk about preventing nuclear catastrophes though? I'm only 1/3 through the video, but the long term damage from nuclear plants are awful. Between windmills and solar, why do we need nuclear?
@jackbayu555
@jackbayu555 4 жыл бұрын
@@ssheeessh because solar and wind will never be able to cover the big demand of energy needs, simple as that
@comradesky5931
@comradesky5931 4 жыл бұрын
@@ssheeessh This is like saying bottled water is better for the planet because one measly bottle doesn't matter and sometimes a water tower collapses and wrecks a village.
@jonathanlorentzon5377
@jonathanlorentzon5377 4 жыл бұрын
Ethan G first making the batteries to all thoose things is making alot off co2 and it cant fill the Hole need of electricity by itself
@comradesky5931
@comradesky5931 4 жыл бұрын
@@jonathanlorentzon5377 Batteries need a lot of energy and resources to make, yes, but they are not very bad at all. That is why BEVs are the cleanest vehicles by FAR.
@joshuak2968
@joshuak2968 6 жыл бұрын
I work for a company that operates several hydro dams, a solar farm, a wind farm, and a nuclear power plant. All of this energy is safe and as close to carbon free as you can get when generating electricity. Throughout the day I check our power generation numbers. Every single day our nuclear plant is operating at 100% power, but our solar and wind output vary greatly. Four days this week our wind farm sat at zero output...zero. Out of 92 MWe possible. Our solar farm obviously only works during the day. The dams were what surprised me. Our dams, with a combined capacity of 1300 MWe only operates at 100% during the spring. In the summer they have to cut back to maintain water level. In the summer... when power demand is at it's highest. The company had to issue a "No Touch" order to the nuclear plant, cancelling all none essential scheduled maintenance because if we shut down unexpectedly we will take down the entire grid. Nuclear is safe and reliable, something solar and wind will never be. Go do some research and tour a nuclear power plant. These plants, built decades ago, are incredibly safe. The only replacement I can imagine being better than these old plants would be new, more advanced, nuclear plants.
@StudioAnnLe
@StudioAnnLe 7 жыл бұрын
I heard a Ted Talk from Taylor Wilson, the young nuclear genius, and he was championing Thorium reactors because they produce much less waste then the traditional uranium powered plants. I don't know too much about this, but power is one of the biggest resources that is needed to propel our civilization forward.
@0sba
@0sba 7 жыл бұрын
Cool that a big youtuber like yourself would use your platform for stuff that might not be seen as totally awesome by the general public :)
@araincs
@araincs 7 жыл бұрын
Yeah its a cool idea, too bad they dont exist. I mean sure you could spend billions in research to develope them or you could just dig a big hole in rock to keep your nuclear waste in, which is much cheaper.
@JombieMann
@JombieMann 7 жыл бұрын
Umm, there was a working MSRE that ran for over 5,000 hours between 1964 and 1969. The only reason that it was shut down was because Nixon wanted to use the money to provide jobs for people in his home state.
@araincs
@araincs 7 жыл бұрын
JombieMann Yea but that one was a limited scale test reactor, it will take alot more effort to make them into full sized economically viable designs.
@PresidentialWinner
@PresidentialWinner 7 жыл бұрын
Thorium in 2040 the chinese said. So for 24 years we have to build normal plants, which is fine. Like he said, there is not much of waste if you count them all together. We can fit them in a well protected and insulated deep bunker.
@MonarchVincent
@MonarchVincent 7 жыл бұрын
His shirt spelled Harambe incorrectly
@elvisitor
@elvisitor 7 жыл бұрын
If you read it backwards...
@glidercoach
@glidercoach 5 жыл бұрын
Rwanda is a country in Africa...
@glidercoach
@glidercoach 5 жыл бұрын
It's never too late to learn something!
@EvoSwatch
@EvoSwatch 5 жыл бұрын
@@glidercoach its a joke
@ZigZagHockey
@ZigZagHockey 5 жыл бұрын
Rwanda is a country in Africa.
@Gauntlet1212
@Gauntlet1212 5 жыл бұрын
100% agreed! I cannot wrap my head around that we want to get rid of a technology that has close to no impact on climate change.
@nickmagrick7702
@nickmagrick7702 5 жыл бұрын
what happens when you expose any living tissue to nuclear waste or radioactive substances?
@Gauntlet1212
@Gauntlet1212 5 жыл бұрын
@@nickmagrick7702 It's not good. But that's a bad argument, really. Jumping into a windmill isn't healthy either. Nuclear waste can be stored and even taking the occasional accident into account, contaminating a few tiny areas on the globe is a very small price to pay.
@nickmagrick7702
@nickmagrick7702 5 жыл бұрын
I was just trying to be blunt about its obvious dangers. And it seems that its avoided here. Fukashima has contaminated a large % of the globe, maybe even the majority depending on what concentration you consider contaminated. The risk if something goes wrong, currently, are too high.
@Gauntlet1212
@Gauntlet1212 5 жыл бұрын
@@nickmagrick7702 Evecuation orders for most towns around Fukushima are already lifted by now. The forests around Prypiat, the worst nuclear accident ever, are home to stable and healthy wildlife populations like wolfs. The threat of nuclear contamination exists, yes, but it is also often greatly exaggerated. A remnant of the cold war and the fear of nuclear anihilation IMHO.
@nickmagrick7702
@nickmagrick7702 5 жыл бұрын
@@Gauntlet1212 sigh... some bug deleted my 20 minutes of text. im not gunna bother again, heres some links that describe the radition problem, and a map of the pacific ocean showing how radioactive it got from the spill www.yournec.org/updateeight-years-after-fukushima/ thediplomat.com/2019/03/the-truth-about-radiation-in-fukushima/ bigthink-img.rbl.ms/simage/https%3A%2F%2Fassets.rbl.ms%2F18734114%2F1200x600.jpg/2000%2C2000/QIJBAnLcI5Y5wIzB/img.jpg
@craigdarien7741
@craigdarien7741 5 жыл бұрын
I live in CA. We are a state of buffoons. As long as you are signaling you're pro-environment that's all that matters. "......More slowly than the national average". Awesome.
@Laughing_Chinaman
@Laughing_Chinaman 7 жыл бұрын
but he didn't say how nuclear is sexist, racist and transphobic.
@squareyes1981
@squareyes1981 7 жыл бұрын
It was implied. It's allllllways implied on TED these days.
@TheGerogero
@TheGerogero 7 жыл бұрын
We must not use nuclear until we figure out fusion. Segregating subatomic particles is bigoted.
@user-zy4wy3kf1f
@user-zy4wy3kf1f 6 жыл бұрын
原子力が、そもそも人でない。原子力が、思想をもつ主体(生物や AI など)ですらない。
@DriveCarToBar
@DriveCarToBar 6 жыл бұрын
Molten Salt Reactors use fluid fuel instead of solid fuel. Every actinide gets to mix together in harmony!!! Right before they blow each other apart with neutrons.
@ISa-jy8ol
@ISa-jy8ol 5 жыл бұрын
www.thenuclearproctologist.org
@odioaleman
@odioaleman 7 жыл бұрын
Harambe wants nuclear.
@crimsoncorsair9250
@crimsoncorsair9250 7 жыл бұрын
nope. he really doesn't harambe is eco friendly, deforestation destroys his home.
@Psynergi
@Psynergi 7 жыл бұрын
Which is why he wants nuclear
@Swellownic
@Swellownic 7 жыл бұрын
Harambe knew about everything, don't try to destroy his honor like that, you just got me triggered right now.
@boyertb
@boyertb 7 жыл бұрын
Do you need a safe space?
@Swellownic
@Swellownic 7 жыл бұрын
yeah I do, in harambe's arms
@user-zw8vd6qy3c
@user-zw8vd6qy3c 3 жыл бұрын
In Sweden about 40% of the electricity comes from nuclear energy 40% comes from hydro energy 10% comes from windmills 10% comes from fossil fuels so 90% is from clean energy sources
@sophrapsune
@sophrapsune 4 жыл бұрын
This single most important TED Talk I’ve seen.
@pierrot419
@pierrot419 7 жыл бұрын
12:57 first row is full of nuclear power sceptics hippies =)
@johnbarrett5229
@johnbarrett5229 4 жыл бұрын
I'm a NUCLEAR WASTE skeptic PdRy you half witted moron.
@drewm3996
@drewm3996 3 жыл бұрын
@@johnbarrett5229 nucular waste could all be fit in a 300ft by 96ft by 70ft or a football field bug down 70ft if ur European around 100m by 30m by 25m
@HistoryNoob
@HistoryNoob 7 жыл бұрын
I am glad this topic has been raised by TED, studying in an university as an architecture and planning student, the agenda that seems to be on most fellow architecture acquaintances is that renewable energy is the ONLY solution to providing the main supply of clean energy, I have always pointed out that is a utopia, a dream. If it could be possible I would choose that same path, but I have always raised the same problem, reliability, space efficiency and the lack of knowledge of Nuclear Power (to the everyday person). This view about the decline of nuclear energy is a very interesting perspective to argue from. Will be sharing this, be fascinating to see what the replies would be like back home XD
@nickmagrick7702
@nickmagrick7702 5 жыл бұрын
we could also reduce our energy usage. People arnt willing to look at the real other solutions, because they are too terrible to cope with the comprehension. Too many people for one. It also just the only solution with current tech. Even if it were the ONLY viable option we have. What do we do with all the waste it produces? What happens when we struggle to find places to put it?
@nopartyaffiliation7434
@nopartyaffiliation7434 5 жыл бұрын
@@nickmagrick7702 maybe genocide is the answer
@LeviForWaifu
@LeviForWaifu 4 жыл бұрын
@@nickmagrick7702 Bury it in a field in North Dakota, drop it into a trench/abyss like France has in Guyana. Build reactors that run ON waste like France does.
@nickmagrick7702
@nickmagrick7702 4 жыл бұрын
@@LeviForWaifu didn't even know that there were reactors that run on waste
@mdiciaccio87
@mdiciaccio87 5 жыл бұрын
I will do more research and hear other voices, but I'm willing to change my stance on nuclear after hearing this.
@aaronh2260
@aaronh2260 5 жыл бұрын
md m.kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ptWAf7aYx7mzZp8.html&feature=youtu.be
@soccianet9853
@soccianet9853 5 жыл бұрын
You might want to have a listen at this French guy talk. ;) kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ra2kZ7uop8inpnU.html
@dylankpessou2043
@dylankpessou2043 4 жыл бұрын
Good on you! Always keep an open mind. We all want a sustainable future, we just need the right road map to get there
@Em_Elizabeth
@Em_Elizabeth 3 жыл бұрын
I always had the impression that nuclear was dangerous so when I heard people advocating for it as "safe", I just had to look into it.
@menotyu9576
@menotyu9576 5 жыл бұрын
its amazing how difficult to explain the infinitesimal risk from nuclear vs other methods even to engineers who should be able to understand the vast difference between a nuclear bomb and a nuclear reactor. Or that Fukashima has yielded only 1 death and 37 total injuries from the incident itself and that ALL other deaths were dew to fear and panic. WHO estimates that those who were under the age of 1 who where within 2 miles of the site could experience a 1% increased chance of developing some form of cancer in their life times and all other age group no increased risk.....far less than the risk of living in the vicinity of a smoker, which is extremely common in japan with over a quarter of the adult population being smokers. All of this paies in comparison to the dangers from carbon emissions and even more immediately tangible issues of particulate matter in the air from oil and coal. He is correct. people are scared of the wrong things....probably because we watch the sensationalist news and watch too many movies that have us scared of all the wrong things.
@michaelfleming6581
@michaelfleming6581 4 жыл бұрын
wow dude your so so wrong 6 out of 10 children in fukushima now have diabetes, and before there was 1 in 1 million children with thyroid cancer now its extreme 14,000 out of 100,000 children have heart defects... man, please please look at dana dunford channel... amazing amazing he presents the facts 100% your message is insanity and offensive
@KainDestinedAscension
@KainDestinedAscension 4 жыл бұрын
@@michaelfleming6581 solar kills more people per megawatt
@ZaDowlan
@ZaDowlan 7 жыл бұрын
fukushima, chernobyl, and 3 mile island. those accidents were all caused by human error. There is nothing inherently dangerous about nuclear energy production. it's the humans operating the power plant that's the dangerous part.
@Rachoszsky
@Rachoszsky 7 жыл бұрын
How was Fukushima a human error?
@ARottenStateOfMind
@ARottenStateOfMind 7 жыл бұрын
Choosing water as a coolant was probably not a great choice to start with...
@ZaDowlan
@ZaDowlan 7 жыл бұрын
they put the backup generators in the basement so when the tsunami came they flooded and shut off. luckily they stayed running during the most critical hours, but those generators should not have been placed in the basement. a human mistake.
@Awrethien
@Awrethien 7 жыл бұрын
And lets not forget that for decades we have had plans for nuclear plants that fail safe, as in not blow up, when they loose power or coolant. But the eco nuts have blocked any from being built by lumping them in with the old dangerous ones.
@ZaDowlan
@ZaDowlan 7 жыл бұрын
passive safety features. not needing human intervention to activate where power keeps the thing running and a loss of power activates the safety features. instead of the other way around.
@folgore1
@folgore1 5 жыл бұрын
It would be interesting to see the reaction of all the Democratic Party candidates to this guy's talk. They've all stated their desire to fight climate change if elected. Would they really be ready to change the party's longtime opposition to nuclear power? Or what about AOC and her Green New Deal? She specifically wants to pursue a clean energy policy minus nuclear power.
@WhiteLivesMatterPL
@WhiteLivesMatterPL 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah. And why on his t-shirt there's a silhouette of a typical rwanda citizen?
@Zoe321
@Zoe321 5 жыл бұрын
AOC wants to create a problem with no solution to remain relevant - that is in fact the green new deal.
@claypage1089
@claypage1089 5 жыл бұрын
@@WhiteLivesMatterPL When trolling with disingenuous intentions, remember that proper nouns, such as the names of countries, are capitalized.
@WhiteLivesMatterPL
@WhiteLivesMatterPL 5 жыл бұрын
@@claypage1089 that's also part of trolling ☝🏻
@AlejandroCab98
@AlejandroCab98 5 жыл бұрын
They probably would, and both parties are against it
@HeavyK.
@HeavyK. 5 жыл бұрын
You can thank THE CHINA SYNDROME movie and the people that love to protest.
@australiasindustrialage689
@australiasindustrialage689 6 жыл бұрын
You summed it up well, could you imagine the amount of materials required to power the world on wind and solar? its mind-boggling
@chatteyj
@chatteyj 5 жыл бұрын
And hugely destructive covering the planets countryside in wind turbines and solar panels isn't exactly the green new world I had in mind.
@AudraT
@AudraT 5 жыл бұрын
Governments would have to cut down forests to make room for all the solar and wind farms needed. Also, solar panels place everything in the shade. This means nothing could grow underneath them except those few plants that live in the shade. Eco-systems would be ruined.
@lameduck1690
@lameduck1690 5 жыл бұрын
The materials aren't the issue; we already expend a ridiculous amount of resources using coal, natural gas and petroleum. It's an efficiency problem. As you increase the amount of solar, you increase the number of batteries. As you increase the number of batteries, you need more solar to prevent underutilization of the batteries. That's why we need to expand nuclear as a baseline to other forms of renewable energy, like hydro and solar.
@lameduck1690
@lameduck1690 5 жыл бұрын
@@AudraT There are large swaths of land available which aren't covered by forest or utilized as farmland which could be used for solar, even when excluding micro-grid solar atop buildings. This is a non-issue.
@Ronni3no2
@Ronni3no2 5 жыл бұрын
@@chatteyj Compared to what? Nuclear reactors?
@caspernilsen730
@caspernilsen730 5 жыл бұрын
I think the simpsons really harmed the way we look at nuclear energy. People think Homer will sit at the control panel working under Mr Burns.
@TatonkaJack
@TatonkaJack 5 жыл бұрын
And that nuclear waste is a glowing green liquid that will always seep out of barrels and buildings no matter what
@BP-dn9nv
@BP-dn9nv 4 жыл бұрын
I think it's more latent fears from the cold war. We're still thinking that nuclear power will destroy the war, when really it's people who will do that.
@darrenpat182
@darrenpat182 4 жыл бұрын
That's sad yet also hilarious!
@back2back22
@back2back22 7 жыл бұрын
Excellent talk..i think he does make a very valid point.
@theicedragon100
@theicedragon100 7 жыл бұрын
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@julianwarmington1267
@julianwarmington1267 7 жыл бұрын
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@PresidentialWinner
@PresidentialWinner 7 жыл бұрын
This is the most misunderstood thing in energy. He does a superb job of pointing it out.
@InfoSopher
@InfoSopher 7 жыл бұрын
There is so much wrong with his talk. It is not excellent at all. Please read my main posting under this video for details.
@cormacheffernan5861
@cormacheffernan5861 7 жыл бұрын
3muration the infographics show did a video on nuclear vs solar power and they found that in a year France who get 75% of their power from nuclear and they have never had a meltdown by the way produce 419 billion kWh of energy in a year while Germany and China combined both of which are huge supporters of solar energy produce 80,000 mega watts of electricity in a year so decide which is more logic and do some research on nuclear energy for once
@dwafakiin1792
@dwafakiin1792 5 жыл бұрын
I've always been a huge advocate for Nuclear power, and I can understand the criticism nuclear power gets and why. At the end of the day all you have to do is look at Chernobyl, but the thing that people don't understand is that as much as Chernobyl was bad, it was nearly 40 years ago, in a country somewhere between third world and first world and that the vast majority of the issues came from improper reactions to the disaster. Also for those complaining about the price of nuclear energy, the fuels are incredibly cheap, I think Uranium is about 3x more common than silver? (Citation needed on that, can't remember where I heard it) and at the end of the day, the best way to make the plants cheaper, is to build more of them. The more plants we build, the better we'll know nuclear technology, and the cheaper/safer it'll become. I guess in the grand scheme of things, part of the reason nuclear power hasn't killed anywhere near any other energy source is likely because one reactor does the work of thirty oil/gas plants, but it's still alot safer for us and the environment at the end of the day.
@georgelionon9050
@georgelionon9050 5 жыл бұрын
" because one reactor does the work of thirty oil/gas plants," This is the kind of bullshit lies why nuclear got such a bad reputation. Google it up buddy .. nd Chernobyl was just soviets... yes, yes and Fukushima, and Sellafield?
@dwafakiin1792
@dwafakiin1792 5 жыл бұрын
@@georgelionon9050 alright, I might be exaggerating on how much power they produce, however, the Bruce power plant in Canada runs eight reactors, all of them producing around 700-800 MWe, average coal power plant output is around 600-700 MWe. Also I'd just like to point out that Sellafield was decommissioned, there wasnt an accident. And with Fukushima, of course Fukushima failed, it was in the most extreme of circumstances, and had lack luster ocean defences built to protect it, again not an issue with nuclear power itself, but with the people in charge with keeping us safe from it.
@georgelionon9050
@georgelionon9050 5 жыл бұрын
@@dwafakiin1792 One reactor is 1GW at best, a larger coal/gas plant is five times that much. Just get your facts straight. Sellafield had escaped radiation they tried to cover up for years, similar with Fukushima, see my comment above, the real issue for the industry is, they lied. Once again. They are always lying, always giving out half truths. The list of lies, cover ups and half truths is endless. And then they blame Greenpeace if the public doesn't trust them anymore.
@MihzvolWuriar
@MihzvolWuriar 4 жыл бұрын
And can you imagine, a country as Big as Brazil, having only 2 reactors online right now? Only one is being built, right now, and the president who people call fascist is trying to commission 5 others, I didn't want that guy ruling us, but after he announced he wanted at least 6 new reactors, I started to respect him, because even if he didn't know, he was doing more for the environment that any environmentalist of the country.
@chupacabra9357
@chupacabra9357 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah letting one of the most important jungles in the world get burned and cut is truly an environmentalist's actions.
@MihzvolWuriar
@MihzvolWuriar 4 жыл бұрын
@@chupacabra9357 Yeah, because he's the one cutting all the trees and putting everything on fire, tell your hive minded friends we all heard that one already..
@chupacabra9357
@chupacabra9357 4 жыл бұрын
@@MihzvolWuriar He's an enabler you stoner-looking idiot. He actively encourages all of those ranchers to go and use the land so that they can make him money. The pig has more than enough power to completely stop this and he could've taken action during the Amazon fires but he didn't and that shows how little he cares about the Amazon or anything else.
@MihzvolWuriar
@MihzvolWuriar 4 жыл бұрын
@@chupacabra9357 So tell me, why the previous presidents, the one that you supported, never did anything? Go back to your hive, the world doesn't need your rambling.
@chupacabra9357
@chupacabra9357 4 жыл бұрын
@@MihzvolWuriar I don't know any of your previous presidents, my point is that this guy sucks and you're trying to deflect blame.
@CanyonF
@CanyonF 7 жыл бұрын
"just fire all the waste into the sun" is something i've heard people say those people make me feel like Albert Einstein by comparison
@davidford3115
@davidford3115 5 жыл бұрын
Except the delta-velocity required to do that is extremely high. Easier to simply shoot it out of the solar system or crash it into Jupiter.
@chatteyj
@chatteyj 5 жыл бұрын
This TED talk opened my eyes as to how little waste these plants actually produce so firing it off into outerspace suddenly doesn't seem so far fetched anymore.
@davidford3115
@davidford3115 5 жыл бұрын
@@chatteyj The problem is still the same: mass. The waste products still have the same mass as the original unspent fuel. And remember, both Uranium and Plutonium have more mass than lead. The Plutonium cores in NASA spacecraft are small, but still account for a significant portion of the mass and hence the Delta-V.
@ADCFproductions
@ADCFproductions 5 жыл бұрын
@@davidford3115 time to build a warehouse on the moon to store nuclear waste.
@davidford3115
@davidford3115 5 жыл бұрын
@@ADCFproductions Actually, we already had one built in Nevada: Yucca Mountain Nuclear Repository. It was suppose to come online and accept its first shipment of waste in 1998. But Dingy Harry Reid along with Dan Coats killed it. Fortunately, Trump has reactivated it. A little side note, most nuclear waste in the West is stored on site at the plant. Fukushima's leak was mostly from those storage pools. Why is this important? Before Yucca Mountain was closed, the Japanese were going to pay us to store their waste. The leak from Fukushima would not have been as severe if Harry Reid and Dan Coats had not killed the storage facility.
@earthman4222
@earthman4222 5 жыл бұрын
Coal puts more radiation into the environment than nuclear power. Coal has significant amounts of uranium and thorium in it. Nuclear power is contained. The technology for liquid fuel thorium reactors is the answer. I don't expect you (commentors) to believe me. Do your own research, or embrace your ignorance.
@YouAintGotNoTegridyBoi
@YouAintGotNoTegridyBoi 5 жыл бұрын
I've been preaching this for a long time. Wish this message will resurface more and more often on the big publications.
@Fixeish
@Fixeish 5 жыл бұрын
WHAT AN AMAZING TALK!!! Completely changed my mind
@anthonylicari2439
@anthonylicari2439 7 жыл бұрын
There's a really good documentary on this that everyone should watch on nuclear energy and nuclear fears called Pandoras Promise.
@Richard.Andersson
@Richard.Andersson 7 жыл бұрын
Great presentation, I hope more people start to realize that nuclear is not as bad as the media is showing. In the end, a slow but very big killer such as air pollution or mining of coal/oil is not as exciting as a nuclear accident, even if there are no immediate deaths (e.g. Fukushima).
@habe1717
@habe1717 5 жыл бұрын
Fukushima had no immediate deaths
@SujeitoEnfadonho
@SujeitoEnfadonho 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the content! Didn't thought about it, the numbers and trends are alarming
@billybobbles5611
@billybobbles5611 5 жыл бұрын
I wish I had enough money to show clips of this on prime time television and internet ads to get the word out
@dostthouevenlogicbrethren1739
@dostthouevenlogicbrethren1739 4 жыл бұрын
I've heard lots of arguments against nuclear energy. ....not one from a person who actually understood nuclear energy.
@stanleymcomber4844
@stanleymcomber4844 5 жыл бұрын
Berkeley had a working thorium reactor, before Nixon shut it down. It worked with no hitches for ten years.
@ElectricityTaster
@ElectricityTaster 5 жыл бұрын
After watching HBO's Chernobyl series, even that reactor only failed because people got really reckless. Fukushima? a goddamn thanos-burrito-fart level earthquake followed by a huge tsunami. They aren't completely safe, but then again neither is it to cause huge cat 6 hurricanes due to CO2.
@Ben-0
@Ben-0 Жыл бұрын
It's hard to believe that people are still anti-nuclear to this day.
@sudombd1230
@sudombd1230 5 жыл бұрын
Well Rosatom already created a working industrial tier reactor that is using some "Fast neutron" technology. It runs on waste (could run on Thorium as well) also uses molten salt (but already came out, doesn't have to wait until 2040), cannot get into a meltdown, works under very low pressure, thus cannot explode and requires a very small amount of fuel to run for a very very very long time. On top of all of this the radiation output is negligible compared to current types of Nuclear reactors. Of course there is a bad side and it's that so far it's so expensive that it requires unreasonable amount of years to cover it's cost. It needs to be popularized maybe.
@johnpeacocke2112
@johnpeacocke2112 3 жыл бұрын
Check out MOLTEX ENERGY (not baby products) , problems of pressure and circulation of radioactive fluids are bypassed, and the fuel is managed in a form to permit access and safe remote processing. Also happily burns waste .
@cherries4life387
@cherries4life387 7 жыл бұрын
Nuclear is crucial for moving forward and I see how it is not inherently dangerous; but surely human error is always a possibility and therefore people have a right to fear such potential human errors?
@jetsiomanuna3761
@jetsiomanuna3761 5 жыл бұрын
Great presentation thank you
@gjermund8053
@gjermund8053 5 жыл бұрын
One of the few ted talks that is worth seeing
@davemiller6055
@davemiller6055 5 жыл бұрын
One of many Ted talks that should be ignored for it's ignorance.
@l0b01
@l0b01 7 жыл бұрын
He may have had a point, but I was instantly turned off by the awful statistical presentation. Using sources with a huge stake in energy markets as a primary source in several places, choosing an arbitrary far-away graph starting point (1985) at 1:14 (rather than for example 1994 when solar and wind started showing up in the graph at 2:47), not rooting at zero at 1:26, unnecessary decimal digits at 2:08, dodgy curve fitting at 3:37, and using a confusing negative bar chart with unclear sources at 10:28.
@HiAdrian
@HiAdrian 7 жыл бұрын
Yup, I noticed those too. Apparently many didn't.
@metzgergine
@metzgergine 7 жыл бұрын
As I see, these flaws doesn't make the trends change or the point any less valid.
@PresidentialWinner
@PresidentialWinner 7 жыл бұрын
Guys, the arguments are still 100% intact. The statistics are not false.
@axeburningfire2507
@axeburningfire2507 7 жыл бұрын
PresidentialWinner waterpeople don't eat magnolias.
@InfoSopher
@InfoSopher 7 жыл бұрын
Actually, some of the stats really are questionable, and not just strangely represented. Take a look at my main post for some details.
@kylehere123
@kylehere123 7 жыл бұрын
A question to anyone bashing modern nuclear power, do you work or study in a STEM field?
@marcuspun3822
@marcuspun3822 6 жыл бұрын
I studied it and maintained my studies even though I am now a video editor. Still a member of AAAS, regular subscriber to energy industry news and to grid operator blogs. Modern nuclear power is fine. The management is NOT. SoCal Edison ruined a perfectly good plant by trying to skirt NRC rules. SMUD built a lemon. PG&E is finding Rancho Seco to be too costly. And typical nuclear power plant construction takes about a decade. In the meantime you could build a LOT of solar, wind, biofuel, geothermal, and battery power aw well as increasing conservation as there is still a lot of low hanging fruit out there. Any questions?
@nickmagrick7702
@nickmagrick7702 5 жыл бұрын
I am against nuclear power and yes, I study the stem field. Theoretical physics is my interest and civil is my current course. The waste can't be delt with, and the technology should be ignored until we figure out how to solve that problem.
@nickmagrick7702
@nickmagrick7702 5 жыл бұрын
@@marcuspun3822 I have a question. Assuming management was perfect, did everything they were supposed to, and properly upgraded all the facilities that exist. Would it be possible to eliminate waste from these plants? If not, how much of an impact do you estimate it might have? Having not worked in these fields directly I can only guess myself.
@marcuspun3822
@marcuspun3822 5 жыл бұрын
@@nickmagrick7702 We still have the waste. What we have now have are unspent fuel rods. I don't know what they will do, perhaps reprocessing for another reactor. Waste has been too long an issue. Breeder reactors would be the technical way to go to use the Uranium 238. This would extend the lifetime of nuclear fission being used as an energy souce while reducing U-238 waste. . 4 countries have operating breeder reactors so we can send fuel or build our own. The 500 pound gorilla is CO2. We have delayed action too much. We're going to need nuclear as part of the energy portfolio to reduce CO2 emissions as fast as possible. We've run out of time to act otherwise. In the meantime we can figure out better ways to reduce and dispose of spent radioactive material.
@nickmagrick7702
@nickmagrick7702 5 жыл бұрын
@@marcuspun3822 so basically then the argument becomes that the dangers of CO2 emissions are a greater threat currently than the nuclear waste. Im not so sure I buy into that argument, but I certainly can see its plausible. I think this is a particular discussion we should be talking about more in society. The real life consequences and trade offs of different energy sources. Personally I think we should be addressing it by addressing our population boom and how we waste resources and energy, both necessarily and unnecessarily. Simply things like building plants closer to where the energy is issued to reduce transportation waste and costs, ect. But I guess this much is besides the point, we should be having the discussion regardless.
@jackpullen3820
@jackpullen3820 7 жыл бұрын
At 4:30 - One gas leak wiped out clean air efforts for the entire year, assuming that being just of the state of California, not the entire nation.
@ecocanada
@ecocanada 5 жыл бұрын
love the Tshirt, fact of matter i am from RWANDA. great presentation indeed
@viralpatel3675
@viralpatel3675 7 жыл бұрын
India is not going to meet its nuclear deadline.... first they have to acquire lands from farmers and fishermen which means it will take about 5 years on its own
@souravsinha7689
@souravsinha7689 5 жыл бұрын
But it will fulfill it's comitted 100GW of solar power by 2020-22
@antonlanthier5122
@antonlanthier5122 7 жыл бұрын
Just reading the commemts, and apparently, everyone has a Doctorate in Applied Nuclear Physics......
@DeviantDeveloper
@DeviantDeveloper 5 жыл бұрын
Good message, a bit confused at the end though.
@ovencake523
@ovencake523 4 жыл бұрын
This problem wouldn't be an issue if the world was a technocracy. Imagine nerds having social power.
@MrHARRYGOODNIGHT
@MrHARRYGOODNIGHT 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine Silicon Valley... Imagine, Facebook, Google, Twitter and KZfaq.
@larsfroelich
@larsfroelich 7 жыл бұрын
That fear of the narrow-minded comment-section :/
@brucewilliams1044
@brucewilliams1044 7 жыл бұрын
good bye electricity
@graey24601
@graey24601 4 жыл бұрын
The point about waste is a great one. The good and bad thing about nuclear waste is how concentrated it is. That level of concentration makes it more dangerous on an ounce vs ounce basis but a lot easier to control and sequester as well.
@kasper8509
@kasper8509 5 жыл бұрын
More relevant than ever!
@nomoturtle1788
@nomoturtle1788 4 жыл бұрын
To think, if we'd had a nuclear future the way they thought we would back in the 60's, we wouldn't have nearly as bad of a crisis on our hands.
@pasoundman
@pasoundman 4 жыл бұрын
The simple truth is that the issues are too complex for the public to understand fully especially in view of the miscoceptions often spouted by so-called environmentalists.
@pasoundman
@pasoundman 4 жыл бұрын
@@arkethel You can't be a true 'environmentalist' without understanding the science though !
@winomaster
@winomaster 5 жыл бұрын
The first problem with this talk is the premise that we have a global warming crisis. There are good U-tube videos that do a good job of clarifying that there is no reason to panic.
@DriveCarToBar
@DriveCarToBar 6 жыл бұрын
I'd argue that San Onofre wasn't prematurely shut down. San Onofre had some serious issues regarding plant construction and reactor and turbine design that made it less economic and raised safety concerns. I would argue that San Onofre should have been shut down, but replaced with a more modern nuclear plant on the same site. Either a Gen3+ reactor design like the AP1000, APR1400, a CANDU design. Or, more preferably, by Generation 4 reactors like the GE/Hitachi PRISM or the LFTR from Flibe Energy. But the point stands, we're shutting down clean nuclear and replacing them with fossil fuels.
@kiradead666
@kiradead666 7 жыл бұрын
fully agrea nuclear power is the best we got til fusion power wan its on
@captainheat2314
@captainheat2314 7 жыл бұрын
we don't even know if it will work
@lithiumdeuteride
@lithiumdeuteride 7 жыл бұрын
Fusion is a subset of nuclear. Think about what's being fused - atomic nuclei.
@wingren13
@wingren13 7 жыл бұрын
we have a function reactor, it's just massive and takes more energy than it produces.
@normaaliihminen722
@normaaliihminen722 7 жыл бұрын
+Jason Idiom Oh like living in Battery solution?
@arthurdent6256
@arthurdent6256 7 жыл бұрын
Jason Idiom What, you talking about his magic sky siphon? The one that makes energy poof out of thin air? If it were viable someone would have set up shop long ago.
@LonnyH
@LonnyH 5 жыл бұрын
I think people not understanding what it actually is also hurts nuclear's case. People think it's some super unstable chemistry that's within a hair of blowing at all times when in reality it's like... Boil some water and collect the steam. That's it.
@fabianmeyer506
@fabianmeyer506 5 жыл бұрын
I think a documenation about Fukushima hurts nuclear case
@fabianmeyer506
@fabianmeyer506 5 жыл бұрын
@Eddie Sloan Dude, there are people, who will never return to their homes.
@nopartyaffiliation7434
@nopartyaffiliation7434 5 жыл бұрын
the waste it produces is worrisome to me.
@christerjakobsen8107
@christerjakobsen8107 5 жыл бұрын
@@nopartyaffiliation7434 The total sum of nuclear waste produced since beginning of nuclear power being a thing...is about 4 football fields worth. That's practically nothing compared to the areas made uninhabitable by the fly ash coal power plants produce every year.
@kylecomstock5066
@kylecomstock5066 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for teaching me ;)
@rypaleleipa9007
@rypaleleipa9007 5 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, if I have understood correctly, the Finnish law forbids the import and export of nuclear fuels, which makes reprocessing nuclear waste very difficult. Not surprizing people are afraid of it. I'm a second-year electrical engineering student (will graduate as an electrician next spring) and shall continue my studies at UAS to be an engineer and I'm striving mainly for the generation industry. Too bad my older brother once said he accepts my career choice as long as I stay away from nuclear power :d
@AliHSyed
@AliHSyed 7 жыл бұрын
I love Nuclear!
@edwardhoulton8725
@edwardhoulton8725 7 жыл бұрын
He is talking about thorium, I totally agree 😀
@InfoSopher
@InfoSopher 7 жыл бұрын
With what do you agree and why?
@edwardhoulton8725
@edwardhoulton8725 7 жыл бұрын
Thorium is the best way forward all things considered
@InfoSopher
@InfoSopher 7 жыл бұрын
edward houlton What, why do you come to that conclusion? It's decades away from producing any amount of electricity, is it not? And if it does produce, how long would it take to be relevant for our overall energy needs?
@edwardhoulton8725
@edwardhoulton8725 7 жыл бұрын
The Chinese are testing it now. It is not years away from producing electricity, put thorium in KZfaq and there are hours of interesting viewing.
@InfoSopher
@InfoSopher 7 жыл бұрын
What's different about the current Chinese approach to the German Thorium reactor THTR-300 from 1983?
@user-qh4eh9fs4k
@user-qh4eh9fs4k 5 жыл бұрын
Thats quite nice and more points
@MrBassbump
@MrBassbump 2 жыл бұрын
Molten Salt reactors need to be built asap. They have safe guards that won’t allow for any run away reactions inside the core of the reactor.
@revvilo
@revvilo 5 жыл бұрын
I'm one of those people who formed the popular opinion that nuclear is dangerous due to the opinion just being there and it 'seeping' into me. Seeing the data, I'm 100% down if people wanna bring nuclear back. I'd think building them off in the sticks would be a good idea, though, because you can't have a major city becoming uninhabitable due to a meltdown.
@alphamineron
@alphamineron 5 жыл бұрын
People not "liking" nuclear is one of the most immature coward attitudes, being concerned about its potential hazards is crucial and anyone in their right mind is concerned about those hazards. That's why we have thousands of brilliant people devoted to Nuclear Energy Physics. But not "liking" an intriguing and technologically far superior power source, that's just shameful.
@nomoniker7917
@nomoniker7917 2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant? Anyone who was ever involved with nuclear power is out of their minds, people who focus on the minutiae of physics cant see the forest for the trees. Nuclear energy, like the miracles of modern chemistry, have become a post-modern nightmare. Nobody heralds these advances anymore because there were severe subsequent problems. Think for yourself.
@alphamineron
@alphamineron 2 жыл бұрын
@@nomoniker7917 Yes Brilliant, open up a physics book and you’d see how dumb you are. Jeez you’re literally the type I mentioned originally. Good to have an exhibit.
@m.j.golden4522
@m.j.golden4522 2 жыл бұрын
“If future generations are to remember us with gratitude rather than contempt, we must leave them more than the miracles of technology. We must leave them a glimpse of the world as it was in the beginning, not just after we got through with it.” ― Lyndon B. Johnson.
@jaidengarcia980
@jaidengarcia980 4 жыл бұрын
I tried finding the sources for data he used in this video but I couldn't find them...does anyone have a link to the statistics he used?
@Jim54_
@Jim54_ 3 жыл бұрын
Our rejection of Nuclear power was a massive mistake, and the environment has payed dearly for it as we continue to rely on fossil fuels for our electricity
@stevenkoehler6018
@stevenkoehler6018 5 жыл бұрын
I'd be interested to hear anybody who can refute what this man is saying.
@YukitoOnline
@YukitoOnline 5 жыл бұрын
@Rabble Repository Nope, government over reach is the main problem.. (Examples of Chernobyl and Three Mile Island) Fukushima is a great example of privatization with properly trained employees and strict safety rules and regulations.. The Natural Disaster that struck the Reactor was bad, but due to properly trained people and proper and maintained equipment, a second disaster was skillfully stopped. Results: No one died directly from the Reactor accident.
@YukitoOnline
@YukitoOnline 5 жыл бұрын
@Rabble Repository Adult? Dude, your next reply is incoherent..
@bbb345sddf
@bbb345sddf 5 жыл бұрын
Very good!
@AZCobraman
@AZCobraman 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent vid.
@theicedragon100
@theicedragon100 7 жыл бұрын
don't hate on something you don't understand. yes solar power is coming but it could still take 40 -60 years to get all are power from solar and solar panels are difficult to built. nuclear power is here already and is better that any other current power source in terms of lives per kw hour.
@marcuspun3822
@marcuspun3822 6 жыл бұрын
LOL uh how about you do not understand solar. Solar panels are massed produced commodities. Today, right now 5/30 11:20AM, solar is supplying California with 10,106 MW out of the current demand of 28,100 MW - more than a third. 8 years ago it was only a few percent at peak time. Try 16 years OR LESS.
@luciuspaullus1948
@luciuspaullus1948 5 жыл бұрын
@Marcus Pun that’s California, Solar only works in certain places
@georgeyoung1810
@georgeyoung1810 5 жыл бұрын
This same guy did a talk about solar and wind and the damage they do to the planet. Check it out, very interesting
@interamerichanic
@interamerichanic 5 жыл бұрын
The whole point of nuclear is that it's a step up in energy density from all previous sources. Solar hit its peak with photosynthesis, and wind power's best uses are cloud transport, thermal transfer and pollination. Any scheme to "mainstream" these is a genocidal plan for population reduction, precisely the intention of the Malthusian oligarchy behind ecofascism and the global climate change cult.
@luciuspaullus1948
@luciuspaullus1948 5 жыл бұрын
Paracletus wtf?
@mattcero1
@mattcero1 4 жыл бұрын
We had a Thorium plant that produced tons of energy in the 60's for 3 to 4 years guy that you failed to mention. We opted for Uranium because it produced reactor grade U-235 and Plutonium that we needed at the time for weapons.
@davemiller6055
@davemiller6055 4 жыл бұрын
Good point. Nobody likes to talk about the connection between nuclear power and nuclear weapons.
@robincondite
@robincondite 4 жыл бұрын
I'm rooting for thorium, but that reactor in the 60s was an experiment and wasn't efficient. We have yet to build a commercially viable thorium reactor, but hopefully we do soon!
@comradesky5931
@comradesky5931 4 жыл бұрын
@@davemiller6055 Because the link is irrelevant.
@davemiller6055
@davemiller6055 4 жыл бұрын
@@comradesky5931 It's utterly relevant.
@comradesky5931
@comradesky5931 4 жыл бұрын
@@davemiller6055 Some countries build reactors because they want nuclear reactors. Highways were built to prepare for war, too. Should we stop building highways, too?
@CheZfrmdaWestWisc
@CheZfrmdaWestWisc 4 жыл бұрын
If you shutdown a plant early you still have the waste but not the value and the waste emitts more radiation because it's not fully spent.
@martijnkeulen5937
@martijnkeulen5937 5 жыл бұрын
Great video, it just need more attention!
@crimsoncorsair9250
@crimsoncorsair9250 7 жыл бұрын
look! he's wearing a T-shirt in memory of harambe
@APerson-lk3ys
@APerson-lk3ys 3 жыл бұрын
Its all smoke and mirrors. Its popular to appear environmentally aware. Its not so popular to have the real answers that were there, just we over-reacted and thought getting rid of nuclear would remove the threat of nuclear war.
@samgray49
@samgray49 5 жыл бұрын
Oyster Creek in NJ was shut down, but it was 10 years beyond its life expectancy, and ran from 1967
@s.v.o.579
@s.v.o.579 5 жыл бұрын
In Belgium most of our power is generated by nuclear plants. In recent years that has diminished due to the fact the half of the plants are in maintenance half of the year, every year.
@Jewalify
@Jewalify 5 жыл бұрын
Ok, I've been wrong for a long time. I was under the impression that nuclear was just straight up bad, turns out it isn't
@AnonyTests
@AnonyTests 5 жыл бұрын
Jewalify Official sadly plenty of people haven’t and might not change their opinion about nuclear power
@SeraphsWitness
@SeraphsWitness 3 жыл бұрын
The fact is, nuclear energy is completely different than nuclear weapons. The technology is nowhere near the same. It's like being afraid of internal combustion engines because Napalm was used in the Vietnam War. It makes no sense. The fear is completely unwarranted.
@DaDunge
@DaDunge 5 жыл бұрын
6:30 Which is weird since burnign rock coal has actually added more radioactive material to the atmosphere than nuclear have over the last century, a lot more. There are radioactive impurities in rock goal which you essentially aerosolise when you burn the coal, if you burn alot of coal you get a lot of radioactive material in the atmosphere. Meanwhile nuclear tries really hard to not let any radiation out.
@alexlawcb
@alexlawcb 3 жыл бұрын
I agree pretty much every words. We at the cross road of a climate crisis and we cannot waste a moment on irrational fears.
@felixthecrazy
@felixthecrazy 7 жыл бұрын
Always love graphs that don't really have a good scope of overall change. Gotta love making statistics look important by limiting the range of information.
@roidroid
@roidroid 7 жыл бұрын
Always love sarcasm, it's the highest form of wit.
@blabby102
@blabby102 7 жыл бұрын
Which graphs are you talking about? How have they been manipulated?
@felixthecrazy
@felixthecrazy 7 жыл бұрын
Nuclear's Absolute Decline and one or 2 others. He doesn't show you enough to make your own assessment, just enough to force his. A 7% loss/gain looks huge when you have it take up the entirety of the graph. where as if you show the scale of 0-100%, 7% isn't as impressive. And to me it lessens the impact of the entire presentation as it's a key element. In my mind when I see a graph like that, I feel that they are either hiding something or have a weak basis to go on.
@blabby102
@blabby102 7 жыл бұрын
felixthecrazy Thanks, I'll check it
@roidroid
@roidroid 7 жыл бұрын
by the same logic tho, a dumb graph doesn't make the figure LESS THAN 7% either. His point still stands, and is worrying. Don't let a dumb graph distract you from 7%
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