How Federal Agents Can Legally Take Your Money at the Airport

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Institute for Justice

Institute for Justice

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Law enforcement agencies routinely seize currency from travelers at airports using civil forfeiture-a legal process that allows agencies to take and keep property without ever charging owners with a crime, let alone securing a conviction. In this episode, we discuss the real stories of victims of this abusive practice, the new IJ report-"Jetway Robbery?”-that shows just how widespread it is, and what travelers need to know to protect their property.
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@InstituteForJustice
@InstituteForJustice 4 жыл бұрын
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@killercuddles7051
@killercuddles7051 3 жыл бұрын
I distrust your channel. Please everybody, be extra skeptical on this one. This is one of those channels that BLOCKS ALL COMMENTS every 'now and again' ..... I'm guessing it's when ppl disagree with their agenda...... anywho, screw this ppl lace. they lost my trust
@killercuddles7051
@killercuddles7051 3 жыл бұрын
@Up 2U naw.... I just stay they hell away from airports.
@simon6071
@simon6071 3 жыл бұрын
Many months ago I received a scam call. It said it appeared that I had bought an iphone on Amazon for a certain amount of money and if I agree that I had bought it, just hang up the phone. I hanged on the phone until the scammer hanged up first. Since then I don't answer my phone immediately unless I'm 100 % sure its someone I know.
@Wrighjj
@Wrighjj 3 жыл бұрын
Are you IJ Tax ID: 52-1744337
@igotchabrothaofficial
@igotchabrothaofficial 3 жыл бұрын
@@Wrighjj good one 🤣😂🤣😂🤣
@makylemur7019
@makylemur7019 3 жыл бұрын
The solution is simple: Ban civil forfeiture.
@makylemur7019
@makylemur7019 3 жыл бұрын
@@josephvanname3377 With interest.
@r0xjo0
@r0xjo0 3 жыл бұрын
Better yet. Ban the bloated agencies alltogether and have these welfare recipients get real jobs.
@deshaunjackson8188
@deshaunjackson8188 3 жыл бұрын
What about actual criminals? That are moving lots of cash and have millions of dollars in assets? I think we should still steal from them.
@samjordan8800
@samjordan8800 3 жыл бұрын
@Maky Lemur Not just interest but like with the IRS, interest and *penalties* !!!!
@nerdlingeeksly5192
@nerdlingeeksly5192 3 жыл бұрын
I'd rather rewrite civil forward to only be allowed if the individuals convicted of a criminal offense and the money is proven to be gained from illegal activity. I don't want this happening to innocent people but I wouldn't mind actual criminals ill gotten gains being used to pay for pothole repairs in my city.
@sarahronyar7659
@sarahronyar7659 3 жыл бұрын
The DEA agents need to be charged with stealing,.
@jabba0975
@jabba0975 3 жыл бұрын
Armed robbery.
@jordanedmond5618
@jordanedmond5618 3 жыл бұрын
They need to be charged with Rebelion as this is unconstitutional and an attempt to overthrow the Constitution.
@dennishoule2570
@dennishoule2570 2 жыл бұрын
Better start getting politicians involved
@dennishoule2570
@dennishoule2570 2 жыл бұрын
Funny how the govt has waged war against the people and the people don’t know it yet
@w1.0
@w1.0 3 жыл бұрын
How is this not theft??? This pisses me off!!!! Stealing an old man's life savings away from his daughter so now she is unable to take care of her elder Father!!!!! WHAT A DISGRACE!!!!
@AlexIranis1
@AlexIranis1 2 жыл бұрын
"Land of the free home of the brave" God bless Murica!
@gregoryfrickey1715
@gregoryfrickey1715 26 күн бұрын
HOW DO THESE JACK ASSES GET AWAY WITH THIS CRAP
@jadedillon5201
@jadedillon5201 3 жыл бұрын
Never mind putting it to better use, GET RID OF CIVIL ASSET FORFITURE! Period!! Unless you are convicted of a crime, they should not be able to seize ANYTHING!
@MrGoatflakes
@MrGoatflakes 3 жыл бұрын
Well, except in a civil case where someone sues someone else and wins, or if someone is sued and the sued person is awarded costs, surely they should be able to collect?
@unifiedtheoryoflife9922
@unifiedtheoryoflife9922 3 жыл бұрын
@@MrGoatflakes Absolutely not. They should use normal collection methods like credit reporting. Debt to a citizen is no less important than debt to the government. The government should not be able to go into your bank account to collect its fines any more than it can go into your home to collect its fines. The government has been taken over by criminals. Every inch of power that you give these thugs is an inch that will soon be up your rear end.
@MrGoatflakes
@MrGoatflakes 3 жыл бұрын
@@unifiedtheoryoflife9922 credit reporting doesn't collect money, I was talking about a civil suit where both parties are private citizens, and not so called "civil seizure" where the government just decides to take your money because reasons. What I'm talking about has literally existed since courts of law and is subject to due proceed, namely it can only happen as a result of a verdict of a civil trial. And the alternative is that a business can be found grossly negligent, incompetent, or malicious and yet simply decline to pay their victims, and the only punishment they would receive is that paperwork would be lodged at a private business, maybe even themselves, detailing how naughty they have been.
@bamahama707
@bamahama707 3 жыл бұрын
@@MrGoatflakes You are surely wrong...ask any good attorney.
@bamahama707
@bamahama707 3 жыл бұрын
@@MrGoatflakes You seriously think there is due process any more?
@paulrose6282
@paulrose6282 3 жыл бұрын
They are nodifferent than a highway bandit of the old days they just have a badge and say and say its legal. But it is not lawful to
@edwardmiessner6502
@edwardmiessner6502 3 жыл бұрын
@ Do you have any idea how literally impossible it is to lobby Congress or *any* legislature and succeed in advancing your agenda when you're opposed by much more politically powerful groups, especially when they're law enforcement?
@makylemur7019
@makylemur7019 3 жыл бұрын
Read Lysander Spooner The Constitution of no Authority.
@r0xjo0
@r0xjo0 3 жыл бұрын
@@edwardmiessner6502 If that is the state of affairs, redress needs violence to enforce the will of the people. From time to time the blood of patriots and tyrants is required to reclaim liberty. We are at that crossroads.
@friedenhiker1032
@friedenhiker1032 3 жыл бұрын
People will need to use force, not violence, and it needs to be immediate during the robbery. Would you not defend your life's work? These criminals are stealing because it doesn't cost them anything. If they have a high probability of not surviving their criminal act, they will be less likely to attempt it.
@rkba4923
@rkba4923 3 жыл бұрын
It may be "legal" but it's absolutely NOT "lawful" nor "constitutional".
@ejolguin1282
@ejolguin1282 3 жыл бұрын
Your 💯 percent right key word lawful ....... their rules for their courts .... legal law has nothing to do with a man or woman
@SingingWhileDrunk
@SingingWhileDrunk 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah but she is just a b****
@thomascolbert2687
@thomascolbert2687 3 жыл бұрын
It's completely illegal: It violates the Constitution. That being said, the scotus is looking to help the feds in this area.
@mr.waynes7555
@mr.waynes7555 3 жыл бұрын
what do you mean "it may be legal" there is absolutely NOTHING legal about it....how dumb are you?
@thomascolbert2687
@thomascolbert2687 3 жыл бұрын
@@mr.waynes7555 I misread it at first, too. Read it with the quotation marks around "legal".
@nickknickerbocker6415
@nickknickerbocker6415 3 жыл бұрын
🤔" It is hard to imagine a more STUPID or more DANGEROUS way of making decisions than by putting those decisions in the hands of people who pay no price for being wrong 😳 { Thomas Sowell } "Quote"
@r0xjo0
@r0xjo0 3 жыл бұрын
Right now there is a law that removes ANY liability from pharmaceutical companies for adverse side effects of vaccines. Yet we are going to trust injecting our bodies with something that will never come out once it is put in.
@justusforrster9264
@justusforrster9264 3 жыл бұрын
They're going to give is all the CoVid19 with the vaccine. You'll have to be strong to survive it.
@pedrowhack-a-mole6786
@pedrowhack-a-mole6786 3 жыл бұрын
​@@r0xjo0 Please stay on topic and voice your opinion in an appropriate venue.
@pedrowhack-a-mole6786
@pedrowhack-a-mole6786 3 жыл бұрын
@@justusforrster9264 Please stay on topic and voice your opinion in an appropriate venue.
@TrussttN01
@TrussttN01 3 жыл бұрын
They actually appear to benefit by being wrong.
@rudiwiedemann8173
@rudiwiedemann8173 3 жыл бұрын
With no formal record of the monies seized, I’m wondering how much ends up in the pockets of the seizing cops???
@joliekae
@joliekae 3 жыл бұрын
An agent in Seattle literally put my aunt's money in her pocket. The agent opened my elderly aunt's wallet, removed all cash- about $300- and stuck it in her pocket. Gone. Supervisor threatened to arrest my aunt if she didn't move along.
@douglashoward4206
@douglashoward4206 3 жыл бұрын
almost all of it.
@douglashoward4206
@douglashoward4206 3 жыл бұрын
@@joliekae nazi's in charge.
@r0xjo0
@r0xjo0 3 жыл бұрын
Plenty. Believe it.
@punkinhaidmartin
@punkinhaidmartin 3 жыл бұрын
There are cops who will seize the cash and let drug dealers go on thier way, with thier drug shipments, by arrangement, on a schedule. They're all up and down every major interstate highway.
@jimda4910
@jimda4910 3 жыл бұрын
One time when I got an insurance settlement I wanted to transfer the money to a different bank. They said they couldn't do that but they could give me the cash. They almost insisted I take the cash. So I said what about a cashier's check, they actually said wouldn't cash be more convenient for you? I had them make a cashier's check.
@didyasaysomethin2me
@didyasaysomethin2me 3 жыл бұрын
@Foxy The Prirate Fox Now disbanded (alleged) drug interdiction unit stops a business traveler alongside the highway, "robs" him of all of his cash, and tells the guy he can keep all of the checks and money orders made out to his business, but somehow is 100% certain that the cash couldn't possibly also be proceeds from the guy's business. It's on KZfaq somewhere, most likely on one of the commonly known auditor's channels. Their actions speak for themselves. Not even stupidity could hold a candle to that lunacy.
@Mortlupo
@Mortlupo 3 жыл бұрын
They have stopped someone who just won a jackpot at a casino and stole his money.
@jiminykripes4937
@jiminykripes4937 3 жыл бұрын
The government steals more than all the crooks in prison across the country. Thou shalt not steal includes the government also. They aren't exempt from that commandment.
@lordsothis
@lordsothis 3 жыл бұрын
I saw one where a cop was watching a check cashing place in a bad area... follow a guy that just cashed his check and seized it even tho he had a pay stub... because the cop said he was about to buy drugs...
@afngary
@afngary 3 жыл бұрын
This is just an example of how useless the Supreme Court is in standing up for peoples rights.
@JiveDadson
@JiveDadson 3 жыл бұрын
Dissolve the TSA, and return the responsibility of passenger-screening to the airlines. Yeah I know; dream on.
@onefodderunit
@onefodderunit 3 жыл бұрын
Chertoff & 9 * 1 1 It's all a coincidence
@gtech66
@gtech66 3 жыл бұрын
The TSA is security theater.
@player6970
@player6970 3 жыл бұрын
Get rid of the DHS and no screening. Just punish Hijackers and Terrorists, shoot them on site.
@johnschreiber1574
@johnschreiber1574 3 жыл бұрын
Security is a fictitious concept created by government, to justify its existence. TSA, was needed to because the fiction was exposed. Thousands Standing Around.
@bamahama707
@bamahama707 3 жыл бұрын
The airlines did better at it then the GOVERNMENT ever did...
@Thumper68
@Thumper68 3 жыл бұрын
There is no justification it’s theft period. This happens all the time to people just driving down the road it has nothing to do with international travel.
@alz258
@alz258 3 жыл бұрын
They should be sued personally in a 1984 rules since they are violating well established constitutional rights.
@Jujubean9795
@Jujubean9795 2 жыл бұрын
Law enforcement has immunity from civil lawsuits.
@studiosinger
@studiosinger Жыл бұрын
The Supreme Court did this to Americans!
@lokiva8540
@lokiva8540 Жыл бұрын
You probably mean a Section 1983 (ei, 42 USC 1983, or Civil Rights Act of 1871) action.... Even if incorrect, there is a certain Orwellian nature to all this, aka 1984.
@nancykurtz7333
@nancykurtz7333 3 жыл бұрын
Justification for civil asset seizures are “Because they can!”
@friedenhiker1032
@friedenhiker1032 3 жыл бұрын
Because people allow it.
@rxdawg75
@rxdawg75 3 жыл бұрын
Citizen: Im going to fly with 10k of my own money. TSA Screener: Why do you have 9k in cash? Im going to have seize this. Low Level cop: Hey TSA Screener...I see you confiscated 8k in cash from a citizen with no record...Ill take it from here. Seargent: Hey LT! Our cops found 7k at the airport! Drug smuggler, probably. LT: Here ya go assistant District Attorney...all 6k of the seized money from the cartel. DA: Well assistant DA...Im not sure we can prosecute for 5k in cash..but we'll try...I mean, its the cartel, ammi right? Judge: Yes...Mr. DA...I'll hear the case about the 4k cash and the evil cartel. Jury: Guilty of Drug trafficking with the 3k that was seized--shame on you, drug cartel mule.
@bamahama707
@bamahama707 3 жыл бұрын
Guess where the other 7k went?
@SeamyEmail
@SeamyEmail Жыл бұрын
@@bamahama707 What other 7k ? Burning children in churches and setting crosses afire never paid much.When was the time you seen a good old fashion lynching. Still legal in most parts. Times have changed. People gotta change with it. With interest rates being what they are. The kids new braces and the old lady's second car, things mount up you know. So that's where the money went, mister smarty pants. You happy ? You satisfied now ? I didn't say nothing about the KKK. Lord is my witness! I heard Lincoln was only five foot three. He had a tall hat, is all. Which he stood on to make speeches.
@franciscampagna2711
@franciscampagna2711 3 жыл бұрын
"Officer, what made you target the defendant." "I detected the strong odor of cash." Are police required training in armed robbery?
@leeroberts925
@leeroberts925 3 жыл бұрын
Yes they are taught to steal your money. THEY NEED TO BE IN PRISON.
@leeroberts925
@leeroberts925 3 жыл бұрын
Is there a law against carrying casj?
@tracybennett882
@tracybennett882 3 жыл бұрын
Most all of them are crooks, alcoholics, drug addicts and they beat their women.
@elpatron7916
@elpatron7916 3 жыл бұрын
Yes cops are now criminals
@paulrose6282
@paulrose6282 3 жыл бұрын
This is unlawful
@AllAhabNoMoby
@AllAhabNoMoby 3 жыл бұрын
That's just the point: it ISN'T.
@markkaidy8741
@markkaidy8741 3 жыл бұрын
Make a 2 part video 1) What to do and not to do when carrying cash at the airport etc 2) How to navigate the system to get it back.
@markkaidy8741
@markkaidy8741 3 жыл бұрын
@Up 2U That's the standard border customs declaration for US...
@williamhague2768
@williamhague2768 3 жыл бұрын
Keep after these despicable government agencies. I’m very grateful for you attacking these criminal acts. I appreciate your efforts.
@mousem7071
@mousem7071 3 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't have even known you need paperwork to travel with cash! I mean its mine I would never think I would have to inform anyone else.
@elizabethashby2673
@elizabethashby2673 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly‼️😲🗣. None of anyone else’s business y you have YOUR PROPERTY w you‼️😲🗣☹️🇺🇸. Criminals, Inc‼️👎🗣☹️👿😞👺😦👹🤮😡👇🤢😟🥶😥
@tinasan3870
@tinasan3870 3 жыл бұрын
wow...did I wake up in Mexico ?
@wesleybrown4410
@wesleybrown4410 3 жыл бұрын
Doesn’t this go against the bill of rights. I can’t remember which one it is but I remember hearing that Americans shall not be deprived of life liberty or property without due process of law.
@christianrodier3381
@christianrodier3381 3 жыл бұрын
I would be interested to know if the Supreme Court has shown any interest in revisiting Civil Asset Forfeiture.
@jamesmurphy2828
@jamesmurphy2828 3 жыл бұрын
Believe me everyone gets a piece of the action
@Thumper68
@Thumper68 3 жыл бұрын
They have not ruled on it directly. They ruled on a case where someone’s vehicle was kept during a stop and arrest but they ruled the vehicle returned because it’s value was much higher then the applicable fines. So it wasn’t technically a ruling against civil asset forfeiture it was against unreasonable fines. Unfortunately The supreme court’s way of not ruling against civil asset forfeiture.
@FJB-522
@FJB-522 3 жыл бұрын
Trump was all for keeping C.A.F. going but I have a sneaking suspicion that some one talked him into it and has no idea about how many regular people are being totally and completely phuqued over by "law enforcement". Tennessee concentrates it's efforts on cash heading south. They have no interest in stopping the drugs heading north. They want the cash. Tennessee is the worst from what I understand. Thieving bastards.
@Doormanswift
@Doormanswift 3 жыл бұрын
@@FJB-522 Trump signed laws to prevent stuff like this from happening in 2019. www.gainesvilletimes.com/news/trump-signs-collins-irs-civil-asset-forfeiture-bill/
@friedenhiker1032
@friedenhiker1032 3 жыл бұрын
Research "right to travel." The Supreme Court has ruled many times on this matter. Police cannot even lawfully stop a traveler without witnessing a crime (a crime for a natural, living people is ONLY one natural people harming another natural people.) There is even case law that shows one does not need a concealed carry permit as a traveler, either. Right to travel is a great place to start in your study of natural law (the only law that applies to natural people,) because there's so much case law that supports it. Attorneys, bound by the ABA, are not allowed to even tell you about it. Learn!
@dr.barrycohn5461
@dr.barrycohn5461 3 жыл бұрын
Do you fellas provide a service to help intervene on behalf of citizens who have suffered abuse at the hands of law enforcement.
@friedenhiker1032
@friedenhiker1032 3 жыл бұрын
One of their videos explains what they do. They take cases that may win them recognition with the Supreme Court and change policy. IJ cannot help people with natural law, because they are bound by oath to maritime/merchant law, so don't think of it so much as helping people, but changing the policies of commerce. I hope that helps.
@frederickwilliams147
@frederickwilliams147 3 жыл бұрын
It’s not legal to take anyone’s money without proof they have committed a crime!😤
@AcmeRacing
@AcmeRacing 3 жыл бұрын
The authority to take money from others coupled with qualified immunity is the ultimate example of a moral hazard.
@LudicrousEngineer
@LudicrousEngineer 9 ай бұрын
It’s really scary to hear TSA is receiving kickback to violate our 4th amendment basic human rights and for now there is nothing we can do. Thank you for making this video and fighting for our basic human rights
@daniels.3062
@daniels.3062 3 жыл бұрын
Less than a third were even arrested?! That's evidence that this is simply a money grab.
@oldreprobate2748
@oldreprobate2748 3 жыл бұрын
Do not carry cash that you can't afford loose to the criminal government. This happens on our streets and highways.
@jamesmurphy2828
@jamesmurphy2828 3 жыл бұрын
I can't believe she was planning on going on a airplane with this ! Living on a Cloud It's common knowledge DEA will size it !
@alb12345672
@alb12345672 3 жыл бұрын
@@jamesmurphy2828 It could happen when driving too. Probably much less risk, but its the same.
@sknmwms6516
@sknmwms6516 3 жыл бұрын
Did she get her money back?
@aSinisterKiid
@aSinisterKiid 3 жыл бұрын
All of these agencies have figured out they can abuse the civil forfeiture loophole without any consequences for their heinous and disgusting behavior. They are greedy and heartless in most of these cases and it's quite literally "justified" robbery in their mind. This loophole needs to be closed and these agencies need to face legal consequences for their unconstitutional behavior.
@janice8514
@janice8514 3 жыл бұрын
Just a fancy way to legalize theft
@pamelalaub6204
@pamelalaub6204 3 жыл бұрын
In FL people at random vehicular stops had cash confiscated. They were going to auctions requiring cash to buy lockers, cars or houses. The state police or local offices accused them of using the money to buy or have gotten the cash through drug sales - even when proof of why they were carrying cash was provided. There was a huge scandal on Florida's east coast that it was illegal theft. Even after officers were found guilty people didn't get their cash back because they had no proof of how much was stolen by the "officers".
@ethansprofile6670
@ethansprofile6670 3 жыл бұрын
When you can sue the individual agents who have exceeded their authority, it will stop too.
@germanespichan114
@germanespichan114 3 жыл бұрын
That's robbery, plain and simple..
@misterlyle.
@misterlyle. 3 жыл бұрын
I remember reading a report that pointed out that the average civil forfeiture of cash is less than one thousand dollars. The point was that the agents involved will know that if the legal expense of a lawsuit exceeds the amount seized, a lawsuit is unlikely. The cases we hear about are like the example in the video. If an innocent citizen is targeted for forfeiture of tens of thousands or more, the lawsuit becomes more compelling.
@donaldbingham8990
@donaldbingham8990 3 жыл бұрын
They don't actually think the money is suspicious but rather and opportunity.
@MichaelHalsell
@MichaelHalsell 8 ай бұрын
Great information to consider. Cobbling together information from sites like this suggest the reasonable and proactive solution for the common traveler is to use electronic funds transfer or completely avoid carrying physical currency. The risk of loss is too great and the government actives are premeditated to create a hostile and near impossible logistical labyrinth for the average citizen to recover cash. The weakest link of the entire process will be human intention. Money (or sex) is the oldest culprit to expose human flaw. But great work for the Institute of Justice for taking a leadership position on legally adjusting the due process of civil forfeiture. Critical taxation and drug enforcement mission statements can continue without the need for strong arm tactics. The improvement is the transparency of due process during common property forfeitures.
@mantan9400
@mantan9400 3 жыл бұрын
If no one is there to see that innocent people's money is not stolen by Officials in power then We the people need the names, addresses and photos of all officials that steal money from innocent people....
@manderson3231
@manderson3231 Жыл бұрын
Thank you Institute For Justice!
@johnstibal2131
@johnstibal2131 3 жыл бұрын
The stench of the war on drugs is strong with this case.
@plalelal
@plalelal 3 жыл бұрын
They want a cashless society for total control.
@pedrowhack-a-mole6786
@pedrowhack-a-mole6786 3 жыл бұрын
Remember the Boston Tea Party? Civil asset forfeiture is just like that, taxation without representation! There needs to be a strong penalty clause for failure or refusal to return assets if they are not proven to be connected to a crime, in a timely fashion. Only punitive and compensatory damages will make it too painful to just take people's money and property, maybe even some jail time for STEALING from the people and violating their rights
@sebastiansmith4945
@sebastiansmith4945 3 жыл бұрын
Listening to you guys makes me want to pursue law. You guys are doing great things
@saintearth
@saintearth 3 жыл бұрын
They call it the war on drugs. It's the war on people.
@MustangsTrainsMowers
@MustangsTrainsMowers 3 жыл бұрын
Asset forfeiture laws need to be erased state and federal and they should start from scratch.
@danielmorgan6779
@danielmorgan6779 3 жыл бұрын
This is a unconstitutional practice! Marburg versus Madison in 1803 Supreme Court Case, states that if a law conflicts with the U.S. Constitution, it"s not a law!!! This particular matter is one that I would protest so venomously they probably would have done what they are best at, besides taking what they have no right to take, and that would to be to shoot me!!! I have not had any problems with LEO's in at least 50 years. I'm 69 now. I see law enforcement, regardless of which branch as completely out of control! I have a serious problem with LEO's that act outside of the law and this is wide spread. I respect the law and obey the law! However I do not respect nor do I support bad LEO's, under any circumstances! I watch them everyday as they extort money from people, violate their rights, beat the hell out of people without cause, they shoot unarmed men and women, they use traffic stops to try and find something to arrest you for, thus causing huge delays and illegal seizures of property. LEO's have just begun to feel the hate they work so hard to earn everyday. I have no confidence nor trust at all in our judicial system, elected officials, nor the folks they hire! This election is proof positive that government is corrupt from the top down. Who can trust any of them? The legislators and courts have made so many laws that are either directly or indirectly against the U.S. Constitution. I no longer trust anyone in government and any sane person would have to agree, without a doubt!!!
@eldiablo7862
@eldiablo7862 3 жыл бұрын
There is no law to declare money on a plane for domestic flights......when asked questions do not answer, ask if you are being detained; if not go on your way with your money. If they try to coerce you by saying you are being detained tell them you have nothing to say and request they call your lawyer. Note to all.....have a criminal lawyer's card on you and a number in your phone. If out of state your lawyer can procure one for you.
@JGoodwin
@JGoodwin 3 жыл бұрын
It is unclear to me what would happen if you refused to allow the money to be separated from you unless they present you with the charge of a crime. Does anyone have any information on that situation?
@tomc.4860
@tomc.4860 3 жыл бұрын
The police and DEA, department of Homeland security are getting so dangerous for the American public safety. People are literally getting afraid to leave home because of the arms government agents.
@phlodel
@phlodel 23 күн бұрын
It's just mind-boggling that cash can be seized and kept without due process.
@alethiapotter9218
@alethiapotter9218 3 жыл бұрын
So painful
@miltonwendall2378
@miltonwendall2378 3 жыл бұрын
They can only take Federal Reserve Bank notes, there are other forms of transportable money exempt from confiscation.
@MrGoatflakes
@MrGoatflakes 3 жыл бұрын
Another reason that their true value is going down the toilet.
@DW-ts5ki
@DW-ts5ki 3 жыл бұрын
I doubt that. It would take your house your car your cash your jewelry your gold your guns, whatever you have. There is no boundary for them.
@miltonwendall2378
@miltonwendall2378 3 жыл бұрын
Federal Reserve Bank notes, are by law owned by the Federal Reserve and used only for "Bank Ledgering of accounts" between financial institutions. In actuality they are "Credit instruments" for account credit Ledgering.
@friedenhiker1032
@friedenhiker1032 3 жыл бұрын
Coins still come from the Treasury, which is why the people were asked to turn in their coins during the lockdowns.
@misterlyle.
@misterlyle. 3 жыл бұрын
@@DW-ts5ki Seizures of valuable items do occur, especially where an actual crime is suspected, but seizing cash is easier and more profitable even where no crime is evident (as explained in the video).
@gthornton3
@gthornton3 Жыл бұрын
This is just crazy , btw found your channel through Steve Lehto
@FatihKarakurt
@FatihKarakurt 3 жыл бұрын
It's it ironic that if you're traveling with large amount of cash, the robbers you should be most worried about are the cops!
@ethansprofile6670
@ethansprofile6670 3 жыл бұрын
That DEA agent peed in his pants he was so happy that he could ruin a taxpayers' life!
@xander333333
@xander333333 3 жыл бұрын
We need to change this!
@sonyou98
@sonyou98 3 жыл бұрын
You guys are fantastic. I will donate money to your agency. Sincerely Chris Garland
@jerrysaylor8910
@jerrysaylor8910 3 жыл бұрын
We are living in Germany 1933
@chazgurrero3090
@chazgurrero3090 3 жыл бұрын
Consult your legal aid advisor on how to protect money before traveling. Make a cashier checks, travelers checks. Wire the funds to your bank. Better make a cashier check. Always consult an attorney. It's worth not having your funds stolen buy all those crooks.
@montwolfman
@montwolfman Жыл бұрын
What about when agents offer a "deal" whereby the owner forfeits a large portion in return for signing a waiver to not pursue legal action.
@lokiva8540
@lokiva8540 Жыл бұрын
In theory a contract signed under duress or as part of criminal extortion is invalid. Try to prove that, or do so without stress and life disruptions and legal costs more than most such thefts by armed thugs.... For $40k to $250k or more in costs plus several years of elevated stress and lots of time, you may or may not get some of your $20k back.... Which tactically, is part of the scheme.
@RtistiqSkubie
@RtistiqSkubie 3 жыл бұрын
1st thing to do if there is a cash seizure FORCE the agent on the scene to ARREST YOU. This begins paperwork that FORCES them to charge you with a crime to justify taking your property in open court. File the forfeiture return paperwork before your court date, they will drag their feet but you want it on filed for when you go to court. Get in touch with a group like IJ, the local media. Get the names of all officers present and file complaints & release through social media.
@james_gemma
@james_gemma 3 жыл бұрын
I commend all of you for fighting for our rights, its not easy to defend freedom and justice.
@LtColDaddy71
@LtColDaddy71 3 жыл бұрын
It has been this way for 100 years! I’ll one up it and say they can walk into your house and open your freezer! Deer permits, tags, property only, antlers or no antlers. It’s mind numbing. I have camera’s all over my timberland, and we watch the development from year to year. We’ll max out on total tags possible in household, and I think that triggered a red flag. We’ve had game warden snooping around, setting up their own cameras. Prob to see if someone is on the trigger and using one of the kids tags 😇 We’re responsible hunters. Their are two 200 inch plus bucks out there we won’t take in order to keep those genetics on the property. They were huge yearlings, and bigger every year.
@justusforrster9264
@justusforrster9264 3 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately Tom, the government doesn't care if you're law abiding citizens or not. They're not snooping around for criminal activity, they want to watch you. Just like a tyrannical police state like Nazi Germany. The army should've torched Hitler's work.
@bobfognozzle
@bobfognozzle 3 жыл бұрын
Can you shoot their cameras? Unfortunate accident!
@goodcitizen1379
@goodcitizen1379 3 жыл бұрын
I was worried abut that at the airport . I was going to payback the 20 grand i owed to a relative by taking it on a plane to them . But instead I did a 24 hour mail to them . That worked
@AlexeiTetenov
@AlexeiTetenov 3 жыл бұрын
Keep Pressing!
@alexv259
@alexv259 3 ай бұрын
While these seizures are breathtaking and UNJUST, I heard firsthand from someone that a person who sold his house in U.S. and wanted to take $250,000 cash with him to a Middle East country to buy a house there. So this guy a day before his flight with the cash goes to the airport Customs office and explains that he is leaving the country tomorrow with about $250k cash. The Customs gave him bunch of forms to fill out and bunch of officers began counting his cash money for verification. The next day he left with all that cash with no problem. So I wonder how such a contradictory treatment could take place.
@anneinfurna8528
@anneinfurna8528 3 жыл бұрын
She should have done a "Mister T", and should have worn the money as Jewelry. Diamonds are a Girls best Friend, Wholesale of course. Anyone?
@justusforrster9264
@justusforrster9264 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah and diamonds are really worthless, most common gem known to man. It's only the strongest stone on earth though.
@jro1560
@jro1560 3 жыл бұрын
She should've have gotten a cashiers check, that being said civil asset forfeiture is nothing more than theft!!! Where the hell is "due process " in all these cases??
@angelicamichelle1646
@angelicamichelle1646 3 жыл бұрын
And we wonder why people are killing our officers
@Ronsgonefishing
@Ronsgonefishing 3 жыл бұрын
why is the interviewer grinning like this is funny ?
@steveneasterling8832
@steveneasterling8832 2 жыл бұрын
So much for “ To serve and protect “ mission statement !
@gordoncleaver6068
@gordoncleaver6068 3 жыл бұрын
in 2014 cops took over 4 billion in asset forfeiture and has been going higher each year
@madmaxthrax2964
@madmaxthrax2964 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for fighting for the people
@Torsin2000
@Torsin2000 3 жыл бұрын
I agree that asset forfeiture without a conviction should be illegal, and the mere presence of a large sum of money on it's own does not rise to the reasonable suspicion that a crime has been committed. With that said, stop traveling with large sums of money. If your bank has no branch in the immediate area then go open a savings account with a national bank in the immediate area OR arrange for a small fee to wire transfer it OR get a bank to issue a cashier's check to you for the amount. All of these are better methods of transferring a large amount of money into a bank account in your local area than traveling with it as cash. Also, pro-tip for anyone who does all their banking at a bank that is only available locally open a savings account at a national bank and just deposit say $100 every quarter/year or whatever you can afford to keep it "active". Then if you are ever in this type of scenario you have a means as a customer of a branch of that national bank to deposit the cash without needing to travel with large sums of cash. Of course you have to let the bank know about the providence of the money, as they will have to report it up to fec.
@alz258
@alz258 3 жыл бұрын
The government really hates people who travel with Cash. I remember a Ron Paul staff member was detain at the airport for having money from book sales.
@Teporame
@Teporame 3 жыл бұрын
Highway robbery. How is that possible in the land where private property is sacred. Utter hypocrisy.
@AlexIranis1
@AlexIranis1 2 жыл бұрын
"Land of the free home of the brave" God bless Murica!
@private464
@private464 2 жыл бұрын
Q: WHAT can we do to protect ourselves, so that it is NOT seized to begin with? Would receipts be enough?? Would reporting over 10,000 for international travel with receipts, solve the problem OR would it just "open the door" for them to seize it? Thanks
@kevc6115
@kevc6115 3 жыл бұрын
This is bloody disgraceful. In Ireland we have the Crminal Assests Bureau (CAB) first of it's kind globally. They must apply for a warrant to enable them to seize cash 7/or assets. Allowing the Feds to play cop, judge & jury is shocking and wide open to corruption. If the Feds have a genuine reason for concern or illegality then they could seize the money temporarily but should have to apply to a special federal court sitting at the earliest possible oppurtunity.
@lokiva8540
@lokiva8540 Жыл бұрын
Is it possible to end the Irish promotion of corporate crimes, in the form of a historically huge civil liability cap, that's become a token wrist slap when companies like IAC/I or FuckedBarf create fake headquarters or legal domiciles there?
@fleebee3639
@fleebee3639 3 жыл бұрын
If I am carrying $5,000 to $10,000 in travelers checks are they safe from seizure? Can travelers checks be seized? If so, can the government cash them without the owner signing them? Can they force the owner to sign them? If seized can you get them replaced as if they were lost or stolen?
@jimreimers4213
@jimreimers4213 3 жыл бұрын
Good questions, I would think they'd be safe but have no idea for sure. I have honestly forgotten all about them. I had used then decades ago and worked fine in that world back then. Today, your questions red to be asked for sure.
@ralphm6901
@ralphm6901 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not a lawyer, but I'd guess they can just keep the checks (and other property) regardless if they can cash them or not. If you take photos of the checks, you'll have a record of them so that you could go back to the bank and report them stolen. Be careful to note that it was an unlawful asset seizure, or you could be setting yourself up for a fraud charge.
@friedenhiker1032
@friedenhiker1032 3 жыл бұрын
If you can still get paper checks. I think they've moved to debit cards now. Police carry machines that will clear out your bank account using your bank card, so they might be able to clear the traveler's check card the same way.
@ralphm6901
@ralphm6901 3 жыл бұрын
@@friedenhiker1032 I can go to my bank's web page and freeze my card. I wonder if that would prevent the police's magic money sucker from working? I would only unfreeze it to get money from a local ATM.
@tomc.4860
@tomc.4860 3 жыл бұрын
The largest needs to change so that police can be charged with death and robbery and a judge can look at the facts of the case without knowing that it was police involvement and then he can decide whether it was staffed or robbery just by the facts of the case.
@wrcummings
@wrcummings 3 жыл бұрын
Even simpler put it in a checking account at the departure city, right a check to yourself in the checking account that is yours in the city you are moving to.
@freeinghumanitynow
@freeinghumanitynow 2 ай бұрын
Can someone please please please explain to me why people are carrying around such massive amounts of cash? I need a good, logical, rational reason why this is a thing. It's absolutely ridiculous to be carrying around that much money in cash. It's not illegal, just incredibly stupid.
@robbrobb659
@robbrobb659 3 жыл бұрын
Try and get the supreme court to hear a case
@tatianaschoenfield9819
@tatianaschoenfield9819 Жыл бұрын
Seizure without proof of crime or being sentenced as guilty in a court of law??
@justusforrster9264
@justusforrster9264 3 жыл бұрын
Corgial tyranny is what we have in this country. We're definitely not free, and haven't been for a long time.
@RJ-sr5dv
@RJ-sr5dv 3 жыл бұрын
It's no wonder why people go postal
@wrenchaholic_
@wrenchaholic_ 3 жыл бұрын
How about you tell everyone what we need to do to end the madness of unconstitutional behavior. "Civil forfeiture"
@samjordan8800
@samjordan8800 3 жыл бұрын
What sucks even more is, if you stop carrying cash and deposit the money into a national or international bank, then in many cases they try to claim you are structuring or smurfing. So then they take the money out of your bank account!
@GregInHouston2
@GregInHouston2 3 жыл бұрын
Here is a question that has been raised about domestic travel. If you are travelling to/from Hawaii, Puerto Rico or the US Virgin Islands, is that still domestic travel?
@terriblepainter7675
@terriblepainter7675 9 ай бұрын
I put my notes in rubber bands at home… didn’t know this made me a drug trafficker 😂
@ardevenuta37
@ardevenuta37 3 жыл бұрын
My way. Find out the name of the individual agent. Go to his or her home. Then, YOU know. 80k, is well worth the consequences.
@Mikenorma
@Mikenorma 3 жыл бұрын
If she had gotten a cashiers check and travelled with the check could they take the check?
@Mikenorma
@Mikenorma 3 жыл бұрын
@Up 2U I thought you only had to declare anything over 10,000 if you were leaving the country.
@9876karthi
@9876karthi 3 жыл бұрын
So they take the money as suspected drug transfer, but file as civil forfeiture so that the people can't get back. 👌
@ppumpkin3282
@ppumpkin3282 3 жыл бұрын
This why we have people like Timothy McVeigh. Our government is working against us.
@patriceginocchio8958
@patriceginocchio8958 24 күн бұрын
just to understand : what about foreign currencies?If they find 10K euros for exemple?
@williamdavids5915
@williamdavids5915 3 жыл бұрын
Not In the States....but I got pulled aside once for having a dozen 1 oz. Silver bullion coins in a small wallet bag I put through an airport scanner......might have got interesting if it was 12 oz of gold instead if silver!
@lokiva8540
@lokiva8540 Жыл бұрын
One major side issue Roger Pilon of Cato used to champion, is that however corrupt or limited asset forfeiture policies are, they're less abused if parity exists across agencies, rather than one or more of armed thug paper pushers for Fed or state drug or tax or other scammers, and local, county, state, and Fed cops, do not have some agencies with massive armed thugs with badges theft policies or kickbacks to cohorts, and others with severe limits on seizures, kickbacks, or funds to pay off more cop toys versus general fund only uses. Mismatches in such policies result in agencies or departments with strict limits seeking to have a more abusive entity take a lead role in an extortion and theft conspiracy, while entities with policies to give out high kickbacks or split the loot like pirates tend to encourage other agencies to seek "ride alongs" or conspire to make themselves secondary to others as lead. While having policies that armed thugs with badges crime gangs keep none of their loot work best, 3 to 5 agency ride alongs that strategically play different laws and policies against each other for profit, to fund more cops, more cop toys, and more operations, are a worst case common scenario.
@KennedyWalker
@KennedyWalker 3 жыл бұрын
Saying that criminals can steal money legally discredits you.
@jth1699
@jth1699 3 жыл бұрын
Oh and one other thing - the Supreme Court has ruled that violation of a persons rights based on a presumption is not allowed - see Vlandis v Kline ... the cops have to complete an affidavit that they have probable cause that the money was used illegally- so what you have is an unrebutted affidavit on the record. There are cases that say that the court does not even have jurisdiction over the res till a claim is made - the claim must be a verified claim... if it's a federal seizure the claim must be made in triplicate...the 1789 judicial act gave the Federal District Court jurisdiction over ALL SEIZURES and it's my position that all seizures include seizures also means seizures made by states too.
@jth1699
@jth1699 3 жыл бұрын
Also - the comments about having to declare over 10k when traveling internationally are in error. A thorough review of those laws indicate that they apply to couriers that are transporting funds and securities for a financial institution... what the airlines do is pressure the passengers to complete the form and then the airline will turn them in - just take the form and dont turn it back into the airline - when you get off the plane and go through customes just hand them the blank form and tell them you dont work for any financial institution- the times that I know of that this has be done resulted in the feds taking the blank form saying thank you and either passing them on through or continuing with there customs entry... the courts have ruled that United states currency is legal to posses - the only time US currency becomes contraband is if it is used to further a crime or is the product of a crime. Then if it is seized and a claim is made the relation back doctrine kicks in and the burden shifts fo the government to show what illegal act was committed that was illegal... the seizure laws are simple if someone would just take the time to study them - I dont know why there is such a problem with seizures in this country. The feds and the states would back off this activity if the lawyers of this country would take a step back and see exactly how these seizures operate as a denial of several constitutional rights and first get the money back - then sue the crap out of the cop and the agency for a ton of money - it wouldn't take but a couple of good law suits and this crap would be over. So right off the bat is see violation of 4th - 5th - 14th amendments. Wake up lawyers
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