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How Fictional Pandemics Reflect the Real Thing (Feat. Lindsay Ellis and Dr. Z) | It's Lit

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4 жыл бұрын

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Although we are currently living through a pandemic that has disrupted our lives and will shape the course of humanity, pandemics have been around since the dawn of civilization, as have stories about fictional pandemics. So now seems like as good a time as any to explore how fictional pandemics have evolved over time, and what they say about their own time.
Hosted by Lindsay Ellis and Princess Weekes, It’s Lit! is a show about our favorite books, genres and why we love to read. It’s Lit has been made possible in part by the National Endowment for the Humanities: Exploring the human endeavor.
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@AbdulKareemAbdulRahman
@AbdulKareemAbdulRahman 4 жыл бұрын
2:19 Bocaccio, Giovanni. 1353. decameron 2:53 Chaucer, Geoffrey. 14th cent. the pardoner's tale 3:27 Poe, Edgar Allen. masque of the red death 4:28 london, jack. 1912. the scarlet plague 5:00 king, stephen. the stand 5:17 cook, robin. outbreak 5:34 kaufman, amie; kristof, Jay. illuminae 6:11 camus, albert. 1947. the plague 6:28 matheson, richard. 1954. i am legend 6:55 mandel, emily st john. 2014. station eleven 7:56 brooks, max. world war z 8:36 .walking dead 9:06 .pride and prejudice and zombies 9:09 marion, isaac. warm bodies 9:25 corey, james s. a. expanse series 9:41 card, orson scott. Ender series 10:35 scalzi, john. lock in series
@jam-trousers
@jam-trousers 3 жыл бұрын
Good one. And the music? 🙏🤣
@q.barclay8562
@q.barclay8562 3 жыл бұрын
👍👍
@asharastark6776
@asharastark6776 4 жыл бұрын
This stresses me out that there's wild Lindsay Ellis content roaming around out there that I'm not seeing because it's on random channels that the algorithm deems out of my circle.
@richmcgee434
@richmcgee434 4 жыл бұрын
Try keyword searching her name and most recent now and then and you should catch whatever you've missed. It only feels a little bit like being a super creepy stalker hunting people by name on youtube. :)
@llamafromspace
@llamafromspace 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for articulating my vague worried feeling.
@TheCommonGentry
@TheCommonGentry 4 жыл бұрын
she been associated with this channel for a "short" while now. .. i think it's connected to PBS and that's why she here. it's like that Get Lit series. i found this place due to the creeptids and TOTALLY subbed when I saw Lindsay :D
@edivimo
@edivimo 4 жыл бұрын
I didn't notice I was in a different channel! And now I have the same concern as you...
@DouglasBurton
@DouglasBurton 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah! I had the same reaction, I didn't know I could or should just search for Lindsay Ellis in places other than her channel.
@NekoSamaIru
@NekoSamaIru 4 жыл бұрын
Because Lindsay was not in front of a green screen here, I half expected her to pull out a drink. lol.
@ieatgremlins
@ieatgremlins 4 жыл бұрын
sasclom2 and some funyuns.
@campkira
@campkira 4 жыл бұрын
need a lot of cgi fixig that makeup
@bkolumban
@bkolumban 4 жыл бұрын
@@campkira why are you here?
@JesseColton
@JesseColton 4 жыл бұрын
And to be LOSING TO A BIRD!!!
@squamish4244
@squamish4244 4 жыл бұрын
@@campkira Why is campkira?
@ivorjawa
@ivorjawa 4 жыл бұрын
“Boy, those books got squirrelly.” Understatement of the century.
@DeyaViews
@DeyaViews 4 жыл бұрын
I had to look up what "squirrelly" meant, but it seems it just means "unpredictable"? From the context I thought it'd mean something outright bad.
@richmcgee434
@richmcgee434 4 жыл бұрын
@@DeyaViews Sometimes also "crazy" or (as you might expect with squirrels involved) "nuts" as well.
@illznik2
@illznik2 4 жыл бұрын
@@DeyaViews "Squirrelly" is unpredictable in a chaotic and crazy way, as opposed to unpredictable in a clever planned-out way.
@edisonlima4647
@edisonlima4647 4 жыл бұрын
Well, she does like those books.
@MatthewCSnow
@MatthewCSnow 4 жыл бұрын
First book: Awesome Ender's Sadow: Still awesome Second Book: A little strange but still cool Shadow of the Hegemon: Still cool Any after those: ......wut?
@Macrochenia
@Macrochenia 4 жыл бұрын
In the future, zombie movies will be judged unrealistic if there isn't a large number of people who walk straight toward the shambling horde while insisting that the slackers get back to work so they can buy a latte.
@availanila
@availanila 3 жыл бұрын
And refusing quarantine coz "infection will weed out the week and create herd immunity" 🙄
@avidreader8521
@avidreader8521 2 жыл бұрын
"I refuse to live in fear!"
@JoshuaFagan
@JoshuaFagan 4 жыл бұрын
I love how Lindsay has her book, Axiom's End, on the shelf beside her.
@rustyshackleford6633
@rustyshackleford6633 4 жыл бұрын
Subliminal self promotion.
@Bldyiii
@Bldyiii 4 жыл бұрын
I only saw “the fault in our stars” lol
@anthonyhoran3200
@anthonyhoran3200 4 жыл бұрын
Heh, came to the comments to see if anyone else noticed. Was not disappointed :)
@JackieDaytonia
@JackieDaytonia 4 жыл бұрын
Gotta self promote, yo
@rustyshackleford6633
@rustyshackleford6633 4 жыл бұрын
@@JackieDaytonia she must be promoting it well since so many people noticed it. I pre-ordered it and I can't wait to read it
@Frostyflytrap
@Frostyflytrap 4 жыл бұрын
Lindsey Ellis and Dr. Emily Zarka in the same video is the best thing that's ever happened on this channel, also really fascinating video! This subject has been on my mind and I'm glad someone else has done the research.
@FollowBetulas
@FollowBetulas 4 жыл бұрын
Hey that book on the shelf "Axioms End" that sounds interesting, wonder who that could be by...
@baatile
@baatile 4 жыл бұрын
FollowBetulas can’t wait to read it 🙂
@JesseColton
@JesseColton 4 жыл бұрын
I'm actually looking and don't see Axioms End on her shelf, it looks like they're alphabetical but I don't see it in the E's 😂
@Kartissa
@Kartissa 4 жыл бұрын
@@JesseColton Bottom shelf on the right (as we look at it) next to 'Dust' and below 'Caliban's War.'
@Moonstar79
@Moonstar79 3 жыл бұрын
@@Kartissa Good eye
@mattdeblassmusic
@mattdeblassmusic 4 жыл бұрын
"...aaaand zombies, let's tag in Dr. Z!" That was pretty great. I really love the different voice each of the writer/presenters brings to the channel, but it'd also be awesome to see that happen occasionally in the future where the topic crosses into one another's areas of expertise.
@billmcdonough3950
@billmcdonough3950 4 жыл бұрын
PBS Digital's been pretty good on that in the past. Space Time, Eons, It's Ok To Be Smart, SciShow, they all crossover when the subject matter encourages it. I'm sure Storied will keep doing that, too. (Dr. Z's been on Eons' episode on chimeras, for example).
@robfranklin6412
@robfranklin6412 4 жыл бұрын
My obsession for watching Transformers videos on KZfaq led me watch Lindsay's video about Starscream. This then led me to watch It's Lit. The crossover in this episode led me wach Dr Z's Monstrum series. Then there was a crossover Monstrum vidoe with PBS Eons. So where do I go after watching Eons?
@wakingcharade
@wakingcharade 4 жыл бұрын
wrote it up for myself figured i'd share: mentioned books -- illness as metaphor - susan sontag (scholarly book) the decameron - giovanni boccaccio the pardoner’s tale - the canterbury tales - geoffrey chaucer the masque of the red death - edgar allan poe the scarlet plague - jack london the stand - stephen king outbreak - robin cook the hot zone - richard preston (nonfiction) illuminae - amie kaufman and jay kristoff the plague - albert camus i am legend - richard matheson station eleven - emily st. john mandel world war z - max brooks the zombie survival guide - max brooks the walking dead pride and prejudice and zombies warm bodies - isaac marion the expanse series - james s.a. corey ender series - orson scott card lock in (series) - john scalzi
@wes4439
@wes4439 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! 😊
@danielborbolla4677
@danielborbolla4677 3 жыл бұрын
thanks
@kaamn1829
@kaamn1829 3 жыл бұрын
Bless you!
@pvtpain66k
@pvtpain66k 4 жыл бұрын
I cringed so hard when you dabbed. Well done. :>
@CAAnmoldeepsingh
@CAAnmoldeepsingh 4 жыл бұрын
A dab that makes people cringe is a dab done well sir!!! That's the ultimate test of its success.
@allature
@allature 4 жыл бұрын
It was delicously terrible
@lefton4ya
@lefton4ya 4 жыл бұрын
pvtpain66k I laughed out loud 😂
@rfrolicarts
@rfrolicarts 4 жыл бұрын
7:57 I was today old when I learned that Max Brooks is Mel Brooks' son. Did anyone else see the glorious video of him social distancing with his dad on Twitter?
@alexwright4930
@alexwright4930 4 жыл бұрын
Wait, he's what??
@rfrolicarts
@rfrolicarts 4 жыл бұрын
@@alexwright4930 I know. My mind was blown too. twitter.com/maxbrooksauthor/status/1239624352305303552
@anonb4632
@anonb4632 4 жыл бұрын
Nepotism in Hollywood? Never!!! I really like Mel Brooks' films. Know next to nothing about his son.
@ToastyJunebugs
@ToastyJunebugs 4 жыл бұрын
I'M SORRY WHAT
@edisonlima4647
@edisonlima4647 4 жыл бұрын
Yep. Contacts galore by growing up surrounded by the best may be how the audiobook to World War Z got such and AMAAAAZING voice acting, I supose. Max Brooks must know everyone and their children. Love the book and loved to try to recognize all the voices in the audiobook cast.
@susanhillwig5784
@susanhillwig5784 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for using stills of Vincent Price in "The Last Man on Earth" to illustrate the bit on "I Am Legend". Of the three movie adaptations so far, that one adheres closest to the actual book. Plus, it's got Vincent Price!
@plaguedoctormasque8089
@plaguedoctormasque8089 4 жыл бұрын
Vinnie!!!! There is only One cure Mr. Price!!!💋💗💗💗💗💗
@curiousworld7912
@curiousworld7912 4 жыл бұрын
One of my favorite 'plague' books is 'No Blade of Grass' by John Christopher. It explores a plague, not visited upon people, but on our food supply - specifically wheat, rice and other grains.
@anonb4632
@anonb4632 4 жыл бұрын
It's a long while since I read that. I used to be a big fan of John Christopher. I found out recently that they made a film of it, but I've never seen it. The novel struck me as a cross between John Wyndham and early JG Ballard.
@eomguel9017
@eomguel9017 4 жыл бұрын
As we say in Spanish, "la realidad supera a la ficción." [Reality surpasses fiction.]
@Imurai
@Imurai 4 жыл бұрын
We have a similar one in Hungarian: Reality surpasses all imagination [a valóság felülmúl minden képzeletet]
@username65585
@username65585 4 жыл бұрын
“Truth is stranger than fiction” is a similar English phrase.
@nivaldowesley666
@nivaldowesley666 4 жыл бұрын
in brazil it will be: 'tá dificil competir com a realidade!' (the reality is hard to compete!)
@Svengali764
@Svengali764 4 жыл бұрын
Love how almost every language has the same idiom.
@anonb4632
@anonb4632 4 жыл бұрын
People who think truth is stranger than fiction obviously do not have a developed imagination.
@tmack11
@tmack11 4 жыл бұрын
I see that Hard Copy of "Axiom's End" up there on the shelf. Congratulations!
@BrianaMichelleMeyer
@BrianaMichelleMeyer 4 жыл бұрын
This was so good! Also, I know I wasn’t the only one eyeing all of the books on the bookshelves.
@ryantwombly720
@ryantwombly720 4 жыл бұрын
Briana Michelle Meyer You were SO not.
@PacheGayd
@PacheGayd 4 жыл бұрын
I’m adding to my reading list while still watching the video...
@DeRien8
@DeRien8 4 жыл бұрын
I called my boyfriend in from the other room to show him they had matching shelves and collections
@gasparinha
@gasparinha 4 жыл бұрын
I KNOW! The bookshelves were giving me LIFE...
@doughauck57
@doughauck57 4 жыл бұрын
Yup. I’m thinking we’re at about 30% overlap.
@willcrago4463
@willcrago4463 4 жыл бұрын
It took reading the comments to realize this is Monstrum and not Lindsay’s normal channel. 😂
@dns5280
@dns5280 4 жыл бұрын
I believe that Monstrum and It's lit got merged under the Storied channel a couple of weeks ago.
@garfreeek
@garfreeek 4 жыл бұрын
Yep, that's right!
@timothygreer188
@timothygreer188 4 жыл бұрын
@@dns5280 actually it was months ago and it's a push by PBS to keep relevant content ongoing instead of sporadic on separate channels. Didn't make sense at first but now it does
@rami_ungar_writer
@rami_ungar_writer 4 жыл бұрын
First off, I've met Max Brooks. Really sweet and hilarious guy. Second, great exploration. May have given me an idea for a story of my own. I think I'll go share this now.
@ericepperson8409
@ericepperson8409 4 жыл бұрын
"Boy those books got squirrely..."I'm glad to find out that I'm not the only Science Fiction fan who feels exactly that same way about that series.
@rukh03
@rukh03 4 жыл бұрын
"Boy those books got squirrelly." I like your phrasing. I'm going to start using that to describe all the other series I've read that start out interesting and then.. get... squirrelly.
@anonb4632
@anonb4632 4 жыл бұрын
I'm going to have to go off and find out "squirrelly" means. I take it that it doesn't refer to storing nuts.
@paulperkins1615
@paulperkins1615 4 жыл бұрын
@@anonb4632 It doesn't? Squirrels and book series, two things that can go nuts.
@richmcgee434
@richmcgee434 4 жыл бұрын
@@anonb4632 It's always meant "nuts" or "crazy" to me, which is the lead definition on Urban Dictionary. The (generally) more reliable dictionaries seem to think it's primarily eccentric, unpredictable, or erratic but...no, Urban's got them beat for once.
@grapeshot
@grapeshot 4 жыл бұрын
The hard cover book The Stand could be used for home defense. You hit somebody in the head with that they're going to go down and stay down.
@anonb4632
@anonb4632 4 жыл бұрын
If you can lift it. :)
@SirThinks2Much
@SirThinks2Much 4 жыл бұрын
“Still, it's the heaviest of all of these volumes, and thus, in hardback at least, could undoubtedly be used to stun a burglar; which has always been my definition of real art.” Neil Gaiman, foreword to The Kindly Ones
@anonb4632
@anonb4632 4 жыл бұрын
@@SirThinks2Much I take it you know about what Gaiman did recently? He travelled from New Zealand to northern Scotland under lockdown. A lot of the local Highland politicians are not happy.
@Jebbtube
@Jebbtube 4 жыл бұрын
I see that AniMorphs book on your shelf Lindsay ;P
@jgn1989
@jgn1989 4 жыл бұрын
I am shocked that José Saramago's "Blindness" was not cited here.
@nataliazart
@nataliazart 4 жыл бұрын
That book is a plagio of the Camus's plague
@wayfinder105
@wayfinder105 3 жыл бұрын
@@nataliazart Personally I don't think the video needs to cover all pandemic lit, but Blindness has an utterly different plot from Camus' work. Both in the plot and how the world/characters function in light of it.
@pratypulse
@pratypulse 4 жыл бұрын
"...what a time to be alive". sarcasm meter breaking records with that line XD
@xensonar9652
@xensonar9652 4 жыл бұрын
When one your subsciptions crosses over into the other.
@KatherinaBathory
@KatherinaBathory 4 жыл бұрын
Now, two months after, some of these themes seem even more relevant than ever
@MisterH37
@MisterH37 4 жыл бұрын
"By the time the rest of the world figured out what was going on, it would be too late" 😢
@dsixtosan
@dsixtosan 4 жыл бұрын
Seeing Axiom's End on your bookshelf was not the book teaser I was expecting.
@Rudolphius
@Rudolphius 4 жыл бұрын
I know this is a very small nitpicky thing, but as a history student I can't let this pass. When Lindsay talked about the black death at 2:09, a map of 9th century Europe is shown. This is just not correct: 9th century Europe was a very different place from 14th century Europe and it is important to show the right map to give the correct context of the period in which that particularly devasting plague swept through Europe
@mentalmaker03
@mentalmaker03 4 жыл бұрын
I would argue the map has nothing to do with what she was talking about at that point. It seemed like it was more of just an aesthetic. She only says that The Black Plague was an inspiration to many literature about pandemics, that's it.
@emmahenderson2737
@emmahenderson2737 4 жыл бұрын
Glad to see “I am Legend” - recommend “The Strain” and “Oryx and Crake” too.
@Hurley815
@Hurley815 4 жыл бұрын
I'm still not convinced that Not Dave Grohl is actually not Dave Grohl.
@Viewbob_True
@Viewbob_True 4 жыл бұрын
I've been thinking a lot about Station Eleven while just sat about doing nothing, it for me really captures the human stories that just end when such a large scale event happens.
@CountOrlok22
@CountOrlok22 4 жыл бұрын
"Infinite Jest" is next to "The Chronicles of Narnia" on Lindsay's left (viewers' right). I don't know how I feel about those two books being in such close proximity.
@oliviamcneil3101
@oliviamcneil3101 4 жыл бұрын
Why is that?
@ereshthemistoclesnausicaah8059
@ereshthemistoclesnausicaah8059 4 жыл бұрын
I was surprised to not see a mention of Connie Willis's "The Doomsday Book". The book follows a 23rd-century historian who goes back in time to research medieval Britain in the time before the Black Plague, but ends up being trapped in a village with no way to return back home when the Black Plague surprisingly arrives earlier than anticipated. In the meanwhile, a new influenza epidemic has stuck the Oxford of the "present day" 23rd-century, and the historical society our protaganist is from has to deal with the fallout of infections, quarantines, deaths, and the need to retain supplies and limited operations. I've been thinking a lot about that book during the current pandemic, and about how incredibly similar the effects of the outbreaks (moreso the 23rd century one than the Black Death one) in "The Doomsday Book" reflect the effects of the COVID-19 pandemic today. It really does a great job of showing the importance of strong management systems and the dangers of not knowing (or not being able to convince others) how diseases like this spread.
@megabigblur
@megabigblur 4 жыл бұрын
Stuff doesn't usually make me cry but Doomsday Book did.
@hobihope2981
@hobihope2981 4 жыл бұрын
Just got the audiobook bc of this comment 👌 thanks for the rec, this book sounds fascinating!!
@darthlobster
@darthlobster 4 жыл бұрын
I was also surprised it didn't get a mention. I can't recall how I stumbled across it so many years ago now but I did and I was deeply affected by it. Especially as I share a name with the protagonist (sort of).
@edisonlima4647
@edisonlima4647 4 жыл бұрын
Does it embrace the standard "medieval people are flat out stupid" clichée? Because they book that doesn't is quite rare.
@allisonbergh4429
@allisonbergh4429 4 жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed that book! (And I cried, too)
@mrvrydapperferret1779
@mrvrydapperferret1779 4 жыл бұрын
Can’t get enough of every kind of content that comes out of this channel, we’ll done and thank you so much
@jaywatermore9553
@jaywatermore9553 4 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry but did I just see the word "lit"? Wait, did she just dab?
@MoonShadowWolfe
@MoonShadowWolfe 4 жыл бұрын
"Wait, did she just dab?" was a real unexpected thought for this morn.
@hotdogplanet410
@hotdogplanet410 4 жыл бұрын
Lit just means the literature in the academic world
@dwightalexander2648
@dwightalexander2648 4 жыл бұрын
Reason why most of the time i only get excited when dr. Emily zarka is on the thumbnail
@lyndsaybrown8471
@lyndsaybrown8471 4 жыл бұрын
These are trying times, please try not to judge. Sanity is degrading for us all.
@KarishmaChanglani
@KarishmaChanglani 4 жыл бұрын
The quarantine has broken lindsay
@amydebuitleir
@amydebuitleir 4 жыл бұрын
Connie Willis' Doomsday Book has been on my mind a *lot* lately. It was a fave of mine even before this pandemic, and now it feels like I'm living through it.
@missbeans
@missbeans 4 жыл бұрын
Same girl.
@jso6790
@jso6790 4 жыл бұрын
This was wonderful! When I read a Guardian article about pandemic literature, I shared and mentioned how World War Z needed to be on the list. I am so glad you did this. I was also gratified to see the Walking Dead comics (not the TV show, though it isn't bad) make the list, as well. Graphic Novels have developed a wonderful literary sensibility, and the fact that they explore these issues, while appealing to younger audiences, means that more young people can grow up thinking about important societal issues, especially as those issues get cut out of the classroom, increasingly, in favor of standardized tests' bite-sized facts. The one reality we see with this pandemic is that too many people lack the ability to process information critically, instead accepting or rejecting it based upon their pre-existing political biases. I am not sure which work of fiction covers that, besides Brooks to a degree, but maybe there is room for yet another look at pandemics as a lens to understand yet another problematic social dynamic. Also, with regards to Brooks and "art imitating life." I am pretty sure he was well aware, besides the totalitarian aspect, that Chinese markets and farming practices are largely responsible for viruses transmitting to humans, as our annual flu season shows, so China was a no-brainer choice as a viral origin point.
@leftofthedial1378
@leftofthedial1378 4 жыл бұрын
“Did you ever think that the real monster might be man!” Geez, I am getting some super unwanted Ferngully flashbacks.
@NobodyC13
@NobodyC13 4 жыл бұрын
I found myself half-paying attention and half-examining Lindsay's bookshelf.
@Carewolf
@Carewolf 4 жыл бұрын
Not the only one. One shelf was identical to one of my shelves :D
@NobodyC13
@NobodyC13 4 жыл бұрын
@@Carewolf It's kind of quirk for me that whenever I come across another person's library, I zone out and examine it to get a read on their character.
@evanmencke7588
@evanmencke7588 4 жыл бұрын
But the shelves aren't ORGANIZED! Why is Ancillary Justice two books away from The Fault In Our Stars? The humanity! Oh, the humanity!
@RyleOswald
@RyleOswald 4 жыл бұрын
Even though not discussed, I do appreciate Feed being prominently displayed on the shelf. Though a more straightforward exploration of the pandemic genre, it captured a great deal of day-to-day behavior and politics in a post-outbreak world rather well.
@brigidsember1288
@brigidsember1288 4 жыл бұрын
I was honestly surprised that it didn't get a mention, considering how thoroughly Seanan McGuire researched the epidemiology for it (and several other pandemic-related works she's written as Mira Grant). The Rising series is such a well-thought-out post-apocalyptic zombie-virus world, even if some of the expectations that made sense when it was written have become a little bit dated as social media has shifted models. But I was still super-excited to see it on the shelf!
@bananachip33
@bananachip33 4 жыл бұрын
"we have always survived, learned, and adapted" well. except for, yknow, the ones who die or are irreparably changed by it. i get the sentiment, but the point of a pandemic is that there are many who very much do not do that thing that is meant to give us hope.
@gollum1ring
@gollum1ring 4 жыл бұрын
Dr Z has a good voice for talking about things that should cause nightmares in a way that makes me want to listen as I drift off to sleep. Very soothing.
@Senglishify
@Senglishify 4 жыл бұрын
More Lindsay content! It’s exactly what we need to get us through all this!
@user-jn1wm3tb8v
@user-jn1wm3tb8v 4 жыл бұрын
I love seeing how art and life mirror each other.
@justbeyondthecornerproduct3540
@justbeyondthecornerproduct3540 4 жыл бұрын
I don't
@grapeshot
@grapeshot 4 жыл бұрын
My great-grandparents lived through the 1918 -1919 pandemic. I never met them but I sometimes wonder how they dealt with it. My great-grandfather served with the 372nd Infantry Regiment, 93rd Infantry Division US Army.
@daleryanaldover6545
@daleryanaldover6545 4 жыл бұрын
That was cool to learn about your ancestral history. On my case I don't even know any of them.
@grapeshot
@grapeshot 4 жыл бұрын
@@daleryanaldover6545 Thank you. Is it good to know where you come from. Although sometimes you might not like what you find. But it is what it is.
@carissstewart3211
@carissstewart3211 4 жыл бұрын
My grandfather lost two brothers to the Spanish flu. My great-grandmother was so devastated by her loss, she didn't record his birth in the family Bible. She assumed he would die too.
@lilMissmAlice
@lilMissmAlice 3 жыл бұрын
Here in November 2020 to say the best thing in my day was pausing to read your book titles and making the sentence "Shift the Wool Dust off Axiom's End".
@Dorian_sapiens
@Dorian_sapiens 4 жыл бұрын
I must have missed the memo that "It's Lit" had moved to a different channel.
@kosmik_storms3459
@kosmik_storms3459 2 жыл бұрын
I had a college class that was Feminism and Sci-fi and Station Eleven was one of our class reads. We started reading it....immediately after the lockdowns in March 2020. I have never related more to a novel
@pansymoons9536
@pansymoons9536 4 жыл бұрын
I got so excited when Lindsay mentioned Illumiane, that trilogy is one of the best scifi series I've ever read!
@PogieJoe
@PogieJoe 4 жыл бұрын
I see that Axiom's End copy on the shelf, Lindsey! Love it.
@adrianbabst6749
@adrianbabst6749 4 жыл бұрын
I haven't even watched the video yet, but the X-Wing novel on your shelf makes me happy. I'll click the like button just for that.
@creekkid42
@creekkid42 4 жыл бұрын
I’m surprised you didn’t bring up The Girl With All the Gifts
@fiction-
@fiction- 4 жыл бұрын
I've been working on a novel for years that begins at the end of pandemic. I was just getting really into it and writing a ton when an actual pandemic broke out. FML
@TheCommonGentry
@TheCommonGentry 4 жыл бұрын
I've missed you. :) to end this year in a lighter note, I have my lit students analyze film -- using your Guardians vid essay as a mentor piece. I don't expect them to edit a video (at best, a googleslide presentation after their analytical comp). thank you for being awesome. you're my "make literature lit" role model #getlit
@Klymenthis
@Klymenthis 4 жыл бұрын
My favourite non-plague plague novel is On The Beach where the radiation is coming and there is no way to stop it and everyone has to accept an inevitable death in their own way. Not cheerful but weirdly uplifting as everyone tries to find the best way for themselves to survive as people in a society until they chose their own end
@mathieuleader8601
@mathieuleader8601 4 жыл бұрын
ahh a fellow Shute fan neat
@talanigreywolf7110
@talanigreywolf7110 4 жыл бұрын
This is the second pandemic I've survived, the first one was a lot worse as far as the actual illness. The Hong Kong flu was terrible and having had it, kind of makes this one seem inconsequential to me. Back in 1969, there was no lock down. No "social distancing", no "sheltering in place". And most importantly, NO social media. I believe it's that last one that is making this situation much worse than it really is.
@johnwbh
@johnwbh 4 жыл бұрын
Lindsay has "Feed" on her shelf, which is a really good hard science zombie story (its treated as an infectious disease requiring quarantine measures, etc) which hs been on my mind a lot recently
@KrishnaRoskin
@KrishnaRoskin 4 жыл бұрын
I had to keep rewinding because I kept looking at book titles.
@AdamMendoza007
@AdamMendoza007 4 жыл бұрын
Krishna Roskin They should have put the book titles in the video description or have a link to a page. It’s an educational channel after all.
@razvanradoiu
@razvanradoiu 4 жыл бұрын
Damn I thought this was Lindsay's channel for a second
@remuslazar2033
@remuslazar2033 4 жыл бұрын
Salut fellow romanule
@razvanradoiu
@razvanradoiu 4 жыл бұрын
@@remuslazar2033 salut 😂
@Pooglian
@Pooglian 4 жыл бұрын
Over a month old and the algorithm finally shows me this. Aside from that, in a twelve minute video covering pandemic and zombie lit, I was a little disappointed that the Newsflesh series by Mira Grant wasn't mentioned... especially since Feed is sitting on the shelf just over Lindsay's shoulder the whole time.
@sadfaery
@sadfaery 4 жыл бұрын
Another piece of pandemic literature not mentioned here is one of the world's first post-apocalyptic science fiction novels (or possibly the very first), "The Last Man" by Mary Shelley, the mother of science fiction. I haven't finished reading it, but it definitely shows that themes of plague and post-apocalyptic fiction have always gone hand in hand.
@vaticancamiohs3859
@vaticancamiohs3859 4 жыл бұрын
The Dreamers by Karen Thompson Walker is a good book about an infection, although it’s not a pandemic because it’s restrained to one small town it’s a very good read! It doesn’t follow any one character but shows how scary it can be from the view a different people across various ages and stages of life.
@SirNotAppearing
@SirNotAppearing 4 жыл бұрын
I'm...distracted trying to figure out what Lindsay's possible decision-making process was that lead to her books being organized in that particular order...
@blowfishes
@blowfishes 4 жыл бұрын
I adore listening to Lindsay Ellis in these videos. It is an absolute delight to experience Lindsay’s intellectual humour and sarcasm.
@sleepyandroid6904
@sleepyandroid6904 4 жыл бұрын
Lindsay Ellis just dabbed.... Instant like.
@DellamorteDellamore0
@DellamorteDellamore0 4 жыл бұрын
I work in a bookstore that specializes in science fiction and fantasy books and looking at Lindsey's shelf and trying to understand the organisation is stressing me out. Scalzi between Buter and Corey and Kim Stanley Robinson in two different places... I need a tea and a lie down.
@matthewharbinson6496
@matthewharbinson6496 4 жыл бұрын
Me at 5:32: Is that Dave Grohl? PBS: "(NOT DAVE GROHL)"
@starrylaura
@starrylaura 4 жыл бұрын
surprised that Blindness by José Saramago wasn't mentioned! also super thematically relevant to this conversation about pandemic and societal breakdown
@theodorerhodes7830
@theodorerhodes7830 4 жыл бұрын
seeing that copy of Axiom's end in the background...... I want
@natasjarose1321
@natasjarose1321 4 жыл бұрын
Back in 2018, I wrote a Zombie Apocalypse story. The protagonists booked it out of the city - raiding a Bunnings or two on the way out - set up their own community within a hastily-built fortress, and waited for the Zombies to finish decomposing, while testing EVERYONE. The antagonists were Mad Max/Walking Dead wannabes who didn't believe in precautions. Sixteen months later, I am perversely amused at how on the money I was.
@mattmelillo8265
@mattmelillo8265 3 жыл бұрын
2:40 I appreciate the use of Debussy Nocturnes!
@yormpbirdhouse4407
@yormpbirdhouse4407 4 жыл бұрын
...I wasn’t expecting Lindsey, honestly idk what I was expecting bc I’ve never seen this channel before but that was a pleasant surprise.
@emiliegatfield2918
@emiliegatfield2918 3 жыл бұрын
A sadly under-recognized writer who explored a lot of these issues is John Christopher. He's best known for his YA novels, like the Tripod trilogy, but he wrote a few adult novels that are pretty chilling. The Death of Grass explored political responses and individual adaptability; Empty World is a YA novel that parallels Covid-19, but more extreme; The Possessors had elements of isolation, complacency, and denial, as well as the mutability of the threat. Even the Tripod series was about the same themes as many of the works discussed in this episode. I would love to see a video that discussed how these themes played out in earlier books and stories - John Christopher, Zenna Henderson, etc. Did I forget to say this was excellent? I really enjoy these videos. This one was great, even if I wish it had included John Christopher's works...
@GdoubleWB
@GdoubleWB 4 жыл бұрын
Axiom's End on the middle shelf. I see you, Lindsay!
@jakmanxyom
@jakmanxyom 4 жыл бұрын
6:08 - “ _French philosopher Albert Camus also used the pandemic as a vehicle to explore the "we live in a society-_ ” Must...resist..."rising up"...
@srgriffithauthor
@srgriffithauthor 4 жыл бұрын
By the way, the Feed series(I see it on the shelf) is really intriguing on how life went on after zombies. Limited numbers in stores, disinfecting, and testing before entrances. When this all started, the book made me think could this be our future? This series is my favorite because it explains why it happened and how they recovered.
@danielhergert7446
@danielhergert7446 4 жыл бұрын
I like that they used Vincent's last man on Earth over the other adaptations of I am Legend
@adiyo85
@adiyo85 4 жыл бұрын
I'm currently reading abbadon's gate from the expanse series , i started reading it because of the show ,witch i started watching because i kept hearing Kyle Hill (who is not a super villain ) go on and on about it , and now i see the series in your bookshelf and i'm so jelly ( i'm reading the e books )i can't wait for bookshops to be a thing again
@martincabrera33
@martincabrera33 4 жыл бұрын
Yay! James S.A. Corey books on the shelf and protomolecule intro. Great video.
@heidi64freedom
@heidi64freedom 4 жыл бұрын
That was a twelve full minutes of all the governance incompetence that have been shown for the past SIX months and gosh the BURN is REAL..... Ow if only we learnt from history and stories..... OUCH that's a stressful yet straight to the point episode
@purcascade
@purcascade 4 жыл бұрын
Illuminae! Yaaaaaaas! Spectacular series. Takes a bit to get used to the format, but so so so worth it.
@MarionRelics
@MarionRelics 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the Warm Bodies shout-out! Wish it happened under better circumstances...
@scruffymatt42
@scruffymatt42 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the words of encouragement, Lindsay. Sometimes we just need to hear that we're going survive this. :)
@epikursamos1287
@epikursamos1287 4 жыл бұрын
One of my favorites is Frank Herbert's ‚The White Plague‘.
@myboy_
@myboy_ 4 жыл бұрын
I haven't read any of Herbert's stuff outside of the Dune series. Is it good?
@prince_dogboy
@prince_dogboy 4 жыл бұрын
I see Wool, Shift, and Dust on the shelf! I have tried to get so many people to read those to no avail. I have been curious as to the pandemics effect on the arts, so it's great to find your channel.
@LumyTheQueen
@LumyTheQueen 4 жыл бұрын
Thank for the video Lindsay. You touched upon a point I wish was better explored: Real-World plagues operate in a logic of their own, genetically-speaking. For us humans, especially those in the front-line of the combat, this isn't a war in which we are fighting another human. I think this is one of the struggles governments need to deal with: how do you go to "war" against something that doesn't act or respond in a way we are used to perceiving (like humans)? I think this is the closest real-life exercise we will ever get in terms of preparing ourselves for a scenario when we could find ourselves "against" something non-human in which we will need to defend against. And we notice our actions do not produce the desired effect because this entity simply doesn't react or think as we are expecting, because we're used to apply said tactics when dealing against other humans. It's a topic I wish was given more thought because it could very well be a future problem that warrants discussion today.
@CAAnmoldeepsingh
@CAAnmoldeepsingh 4 жыл бұрын
Ah....atlast a new Lindsay video.....have been binging on old videos throughout this lockdown, any new one is soooooo appreciated. Lol kinda surprised "It's lit" managed to persuade you to make one and that too on the pandemic. I hope you're doing fine though cause let's be honest, very difficult to do good these days.
@names5354
@names5354 4 жыл бұрын
How did KZfaq just now recommend this channel to me, I watched all of Linsay Ellis's videos on her main channel all the time, and to think all of this extra content of hers is in another deep dive video essay based channel!
@only_sleeping7276
@only_sleeping7276 4 жыл бұрын
Kind of wish you had talked about Mary Shelley's The Last Man
@HellPhoenix6
@HellPhoenix6 3 жыл бұрын
It took me a journey to finally find and buy this book but it was worth it. I found myself engrossed in the alternate history she created, especially as the end drew near for all but a handful. It also represents a family unit of intimate friendship between two men that was beautifully written. And the ending was soul-crushing. I can not believe this was only published once and shelved for being too dystopian; it is now being recognized as a masterpiece.
@BrentHollett
@BrentHollett 4 жыл бұрын
True Snark can only be elevated to an art, by one well versed in literature.
@MatthewCarterliquidsoulbook
@MatthewCarterliquidsoulbook 3 жыл бұрын
Love the side came across this through the KZfaqs and I find it fascinating
@Sociotard
@Sociotard 4 жыл бұрын
Oh, and for Super-prophetic, try "A song for a new day" by Sarah Pinsker. A plague and terror attack combo makes people avoid getting in groups, to the degree it becomes law. Everybody is socially distant all the time. Even riding the bus (it is now divided into little cubicles that don't share air) or restaurants (all booths … that don't share air).
@jegraham440
@jegraham440 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Lindsay--always enjoy your work! However, a factual correction: The first recorded appearance of the Bubonic plague was NOT in the 14th century, but in 542 during the reign of Emperor Justinian. There is some discussion among historians as to whether this pandemic was the death knell for the Western Roman Empire.
@JenniferMcMahonhawaii78
@JenniferMcMahonhawaii78 4 жыл бұрын
Speaking of a pandemic movie with vampires, I also like Daybreakers (2010).
@Sitharos
@Sitharos 4 жыл бұрын
I spent most the video looking at the books on her shelf. Awesome to see the Darth Bane trilogy! 😊
@WilfredoWolganG
@WilfredoWolganG 4 жыл бұрын
Always love the amount of research you do for your videos. Great work
@markmolino6091
@markmolino6091 4 жыл бұрын
You know with all these literature on past plagues ,you would of thought mankind would of learn by now .Great video guys.
@KwanLowe
@KwanLowe 4 жыл бұрын
Those titles behind you! I have half of them in my library. The information about the second and third tier deaths is sadly true (just read about the large increase in non-COVID deaths attributed to people not going to hospital). And the Max Brooks quote at the end is horrifyingly accurate (I wanted to say prophetic but the fact that the military /prepared/ for this so many years ago adds the horror).
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