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How Fraudsters Become Heroes (ft. Fyre Fest, Theranos, Martin Shkreli)

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With multiple documentaries about Fyre Festival, 2 feature films in development about Elizabeth Holmes, and HBO creating a new documentary about fake heiress Anna Delvey, our culture has become obsessed with morally dubious scammers. We love to hate to love to learn about these people, and of course we're here to ask: why?
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@unology1
@unology1 5 жыл бұрын
Keep in mind.... These are just the ones that got caught....
@starvalkyrie
@starvalkyrie 5 жыл бұрын
right which just makes them the dumb ones.
@Redrogue4711
@Redrogue4711 5 жыл бұрын
@@starvalkyrie No. It makes them the overly greedy ones.
@CarFreeSegnitz
@CarFreeSegnitz 5 жыл бұрын
These are the ones who got caught taking rich people's money. Had.they just stuck to ripping off the poor they'd have suffered no consequences. Shkreli was brought to prominence for his drug gouging, but it wasn't illegal. His legal troubles came when he ripped off his investors.
@thomasdixon8656
@thomasdixon8656 5 жыл бұрын
Just wanted to say you have a cool profile pic
@douglasphillips5870
@douglasphillips5870 5 жыл бұрын
The system is made for the greedy ones.
@Alienami
@Alienami 4 жыл бұрын
"We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office." -- Aesop, around 550 BCE, and nothing has changed...
@RavenWard
@RavenWard 4 жыл бұрын
The list has 4 people on it lol.
@Ton-uy1xd
@Ton-uy1xd 4 жыл бұрын
@@GerardoAguilar1 What did he steal?
@thechumpsbeendumped.7797
@thechumpsbeendumped.7797 4 жыл бұрын
0bsolete-X Do you honestly need a list? Here’s a few off the top of my head and in no particular order, I’m sure if you cared to check you could find more. His fraudulent university. $25,000,000 settlement. Misappropriation (stealing) of funds from his now closed down charity. $2,000,000 in fines and $1,780,000 of remaining funds distributed by the courts to charities. Refusing to pay contractors despite work being carried out to specification. Attempting to use his office to gain a personal advantage by extorting a foreign leader. Emolument clause violations = stealing from the American tax payer. Using his golf club visits to put money into his businesses. Making Pence and others use his clubs as bases despite them being more expensive, further away or both than numerous other hotels. Air Force pilots and crew using one of his Scottish hotels instead of cheaper and more convenient alternatives. Attempting to get the G8 to meet at one of his failing Florida golf clubs. To date his golfing trips have cost the American tax payer in excess of $120,000,000 which to some people is a lot of money and could’ve been used in a far better way.
@deancj1
@deancj1 4 жыл бұрын
@@thechumpsbeendumped.7797 don't try to use facts and logic with anyone that's asked that question. They obviously ignore the fact that the bloated pos has been on a 50 year grift. It's impossible to accumulate anywhere near a billion dollars without malfescence that ranges from monopoly to downright criminal behavior.
@thechumpsbeendumped.7797
@thechumpsbeendumped.7797 4 жыл бұрын
deancj1 I pretty much knew he was just trolling, and a month later and no reply confirms he had nothing.
@robbietorkelsonn8509
@robbietorkelsonn8509 4 жыл бұрын
It's shocking how you can get people to invest millions without asking a professor on the matter whether it's even scientifically possible.
@EphemeralTao
@EphemeralTao 4 жыл бұрын
When the mass of the population, including those who hold the money, are scientifically illiterate to the point of being distrustful of scientists (not to mention outright disdainful of anyone who tell them things they don't want to hear), it's actually not that difficult to get away with.
@Amateur_Pianist_472
@Amateur_Pianist_472 4 жыл бұрын
A professor’s opinion isn’t needed to sell ‘cures’. Which is one thing wrong with our system.
@KA-du7vm
@KA-du7vm 4 жыл бұрын
well that is also a skill - use it for good or for bad that's different
@MihaiRUdeRO
@MihaiRUdeRO 4 жыл бұрын
Because professors are readily available to be hired to analyze and research every investment opportunity...
@robbietorkelsonn8509
@robbietorkelsonn8509 4 жыл бұрын
@@MihaiRUdeRO if they would get 10k$ for every inquiery, which is a fraction of millions of $, they might not want to do anything else ever again
@WinderBlitz
@WinderBlitz 5 жыл бұрын
Wisecrack: lets talk about the scammiest of scammers Also Wisecrack: this video is sponsored by a F2P mobile game
@tdsims1963
@tdsims1963 5 жыл бұрын
Folks gotta eat. You're not supporting them, so they have to find the ones who will.
@fdub301
@fdub301 5 жыл бұрын
meta
@GalacticAstroparticles
@GalacticAstroparticles 5 жыл бұрын
@@tdsims1963 F2P games are the most disgusting practice of milking money from people with addictions(called whales), be it gaming or gambling. If you saw the tactics they use and the money they make you wouldnt equate them to "folks having to eat" but to the blood sucking millionaire vampire scammers in this video...
@LTV746
@LTV746 5 жыл бұрын
Sinner among the saints. Could have been a lot worse
@beckydoesit9331
@beckydoesit9331 5 жыл бұрын
When I was nine I found a magazine that I believed featured pornography for women. I had thought it was the women's equivalent to Playboy, or Hustler. I found it in a dumpster where I would look for discarded items to throw into my neighbor's yard. But anyway, flipping through this "magazine" I found a photo essay on some nice twin blonde young men who were photographed together engaging in some hilarious and fun behavior. One twin put the other's penis in a hotdog bun, complete with yellow mustard on top, and pretended to take a bite. Lots of things like this. But one vignette featured the two twins in a position that found one on the other's back, both smiling, eyes on the camera. Sidebar photos revealed a closer look where the twin's penis, who was on top, was midway into the other twin's butthole. "Wow"I thought. "That's kinda gay" I just assumed that they ran out of ideas and this was the next logical step that they took, not wanting to disappoint the photographer. Later in life I would learn this magazine was for men who liked to do that kind of thing. I didn't really know what gay or homosexual was. Anyway, I'm putting things from my childhood together and I would love to find this magazine. I believe it was called Blue Boy and featured the twins on the cover buttfucking.
@ThatOneGuy7550
@ThatOneGuy7550 5 жыл бұрын
The name "Theranos" sounds like the name of an off-brand supervillain.
@neb-yr5589
@neb-yr5589 5 жыл бұрын
Theranos is just two letters away from Thanos.
@paleposter
@paleposter 5 жыл бұрын
One of the first people who looked into the organization was a professor who was greek. He saw their sign and was like "This name looks like a weird combination of Thanatos (Death) and Tyrannos (Tyrant). Weird name."
@wilmagregg3131
@wilmagregg3131 5 жыл бұрын
@@paleposter yep same her i thought "why the hell would a medical company name themselves after the god of DEATH"
@bkr1895
@bkr1895 5 жыл бұрын
Great Value™ Thanos
@bkr1895
@bkr1895 5 жыл бұрын
I can’t believe it’s not Thanos™
@biggiejeffrey
@biggiejeffrey 5 жыл бұрын
Theranos: where the boss snapped her fingers and made half of the money in her investors' bank accounts disappear!
@BobbinMcferry
@BobbinMcferry 5 жыл бұрын
Except she snapped twice.
@basicstickfigure1087
@basicstickfigure1087 5 жыл бұрын
Girl power !!! lol
@RaidsEpicly
@RaidsEpicly 5 жыл бұрын
God damn, The Theranos CEO's voice drives me INSANE
@BewareTheLilyOfTheValley
@BewareTheLilyOfTheValley 4 жыл бұрын
It's not her real voice either, lol. She made it lower and more masculine to be taken more seriously (which by itself is a shame and something that should probably be looked into), but her actual voice is higher.
@TheMcKenzieHaus
@TheMcKenzieHaus 4 жыл бұрын
Worst, it wasn’t even real. Annoying the world on purpose
@marshad905
@marshad905 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheMcKenzieHaus Exactly, she needs jail time for that alone
@CoffeeRaven
@CoffeeRaven 4 жыл бұрын
RaidsEpicly It sounds like she has a cold and mucus is still up there. And morning breath.
@PungiFungi
@PungiFungi 3 жыл бұрын
@@CoffeeRaven , and I wonder if they are going to let her testify on her trial...and if she will still use that fake voice. I am sure her lawyers are telling her to knock off the unblinking stare.
@nahimgood9725
@nahimgood9725 4 жыл бұрын
Gotta admit, the girl that scammed banks and hotels just by looking rich sounds kinda cool
@joshdunham7167
@joshdunham7167 4 жыл бұрын
You just proved that retaliation towards capitalism is our kind of capitalism, we're dimmed.
@jaxxie
@jaxxie 4 жыл бұрын
She doesn't belong on this list. Holmes on the other hand should be number one on this list.
@MeloraCarabas
@MeloraCarabas 4 жыл бұрын
She scammed everyone she could scam. Also individuals that she completely milked because they were good trusting people. How wonderful of her.
@jeanhartely
@jeanhartely 4 жыл бұрын
Why did she get more jail time than Holmes, who deliberately gave patients faulty medical tests? That's much worse in my opinion.
@karlfagerstrom
@karlfagerstrom 4 жыл бұрын
@@MeloraCarabas I dunno, it seems like she only stole from other (actually) super wealthy socialites and luxurious hotels, like a more self-serving Robin Hood; sounds kinda badass to me.
@poweroffriendship2.0
@poweroffriendship2.0 5 жыл бұрын
*_And to this day, no one will ever know that our hero Yoshi has committed the tax fraud._*
@totallynotjeff7748
@totallynotjeff7748 5 жыл бұрын
*Yoshi what have you done!?*
@mikeappleget482
@mikeappleget482 5 жыл бұрын
Viddy well, little brotha - Viddy well!
@nerdinvader6740
@nerdinvader6740 5 жыл бұрын
"please I pay my taxes!"
@YitzharVered
@YitzharVered 5 жыл бұрын
Killian wants his jokes back
@ceulgai2817
@ceulgai2817 5 жыл бұрын
Please. We know. We know.
@starvalkyrie
@starvalkyrie 5 жыл бұрын
"shady but not depraved" lets back up, to Shkreli real quick on that one
@alvarezchris2552
@alvarezchris2552 5 жыл бұрын
Keld Tundraking 😂
@leftovercrass5210
@leftovercrass5210 5 жыл бұрын
Why are we keeping people with Aids alive to spread it? Aids is caught through depravity and being a degenerate. The sooner we stop letting this disease live, the sooner we can get back to curing cancers
@Redorgreenful
@Redorgreenful 5 жыл бұрын
Holmes, too, showing people had syphilis & cancer when they didn’t.
@AbMaSync
@AbMaSync 5 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@zarredf
@zarredf 5 жыл бұрын
Some actual research on Shkreli would help. Apart from securities fraud which is not an uncommon occurrence in the finance world, he has been misrepresented. Getting villainized for hiking the price up to industry averages for the rarity of the disease and efficacy of the drug, while pushing far more of the profits to R&D than other pharma companies. It's the big companies insurance that pays for the drugs, where the increase is such a tiny drop in the bucket it makes no difference.
@forsetigodofjusticeexcelle7506
@forsetigodofjusticeexcelle7506 5 жыл бұрын
Elizabeth Holms whole physical presence reminds me so strongly about Mark Zuckerberg the lizard in court.
@MrSlosh
@MrSlosh 5 жыл бұрын
I didn't feel any pleasure from hearing their stories, because I know these people will never see the appropriate punishment. A few years in a comfy minimum security prison, then right back on their feet like nothing happened. Nothing but a financial slap on the wrist and potential royalties from books and movies about their 'struggles'.
@ssa6227
@ssa6227 5 жыл бұрын
So correct. When society fails to punish the criminals without bias and even reward them. We seal our fate to death and destruction as these criminals rule us as businesses and our nation's leaders.
@Gfish17
@Gfish17 4 жыл бұрын
Good for you.
@dimplesd8931
@dimplesd8931 4 жыл бұрын
See Jordan Belford as THE poster child for your comment.
@MasterAdam100
@MasterAdam100 4 жыл бұрын
Lying, cheating and stealing isn't exactly a good thing, even if you dress it up as "hustling".
@reanetsemoleleki8219
@reanetsemoleleki8219 3 жыл бұрын
@@MasterAdam100 not everyone wants to do good things even though that's exactly what they say they want.
@marklindberg374
@marklindberg374 5 жыл бұрын
Dont forget, Fyre festival didn't just market to rich kids, they also had fairly inexpensive tickets for what was a huge vacation
@JohnathanJWells
@JohnathanJWells 5 жыл бұрын
@The TacomaKid That's kind of pathetic
@eadlynjune
@eadlynjune 5 жыл бұрын
The TacomaKid Nobody likes an asshole dude so don’t be one.
@billiecruz4399
@billiecruz4399 5 жыл бұрын
The TacomaKid are you okay? Why are you trying to flex your view count? Nobody cares.
@eadlynjune
@eadlynjune 5 жыл бұрын
Sandcastle • Well I mean they’re just paying for a festival. Some people aren’t rich but save up for that kinda stuff and there’s nothing wrong with that. It’s fun to get to party and see bands for a few days, this isn’t faking a rich kid lifestyle it’s a festival that’s how they are.
@MrISAACFACE
@MrISAACFACE 5 жыл бұрын
@The TacomaKidif youre lacking control in your life, the best way to deal with it isnt being a dick. there are people out there willing to sympathize with you and you'll feel better about all of it when you can be honest and constructive about things.
@poslednisoud
@poslednisoud 5 жыл бұрын
Elisabeth Holmes is the lizard person wearing female version of Mark Zuckerberg disguise. Change my mind.
@FrankTic-kx4hm
@FrankTic-kx4hm 5 жыл бұрын
I can't. This is the perfect comparison.
@devlinmcbane7255
@devlinmcbane7255 5 жыл бұрын
Nazael Rahl oh damn!!!
@banksy8081
@banksy8081 5 жыл бұрын
I think lizards may blink tho
@M.K.ultra.
@M.K.ultra. 5 жыл бұрын
Calling Elizabeth Holmes a lizard person is an insult to all lizard persons out there.
@GalacticAstroparticles
@GalacticAstroparticles 5 жыл бұрын
Most lizards still blink though, unlike her...
@Snowy123
@Snowy123 5 жыл бұрын
“My father once told me that respect for truth comes close to being the basis for all morality. 'Something cannot emerge from nothing,' he said. This is profound thinking if you understand how unstable 'the truth' can be” - Dune
@7ETRNL
@7ETRNL 4 жыл бұрын
Am I the only one who noticing that Elisabeth Holmes never blinks and that alone is a red flag?
@PungiFungi
@PungiFungi 3 жыл бұрын
Normal people like you see through her act. It is the mainstream media and those who want to push a narrative that overlook red flags like this.
@johnarken1810
@johnarken1810 5 жыл бұрын
By god, she really doesn't blink!
@jordanpeele24
@jordanpeele24 5 жыл бұрын
John Arken because she woke
@MrZeroBrains
@MrZeroBrains 5 жыл бұрын
John Arken right and it annoys me a lot more than it probably should
@mikeappleget482
@mikeappleget482 5 жыл бұрын
BLINKING REVEALS WEAKNESSES BRAH
@starvalkyrie
@starvalkyrie 5 жыл бұрын
Can't blink with those giant contact lenses in.
@sophisticated_patter
@sophisticated_patter 5 жыл бұрын
This was going to be my comment. It makes my eyes water just looking at her. I guess I'll always be poor.
@josephunderwood1875
@josephunderwood1875 5 жыл бұрын
Kinda funny that the Sorokin caused the least financial damage and got such a high sentence. It's almost like they're pissed at her for having the audacity to pose as a bourgeois elite despite being a "normie". Like, "how dare you pretend to be one of us."
@YumegakaMurakumo
@YumegakaMurakumo 5 жыл бұрын
@Joseph Underwood my thoughts exactly.
@BENYJOSE1
@BENYJOSE1 5 жыл бұрын
She probably had weaker legal representation.
@DSzaks
@DSzaks 5 жыл бұрын
ikr, if that isn't the argument for moral relativism right there I don't know what is.
@raqueljacobs1542
@raqueljacobs1542 5 жыл бұрын
No, you are 💯 % correct‼️ She got the shaft because she wasn’t actually a rich‼️ No other explanation can be leveled at someone who did less crime and got more punishment!!
@starvalkyrie
@starvalkyrie 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah the audacity of stepping out of her lane. That really gets rich knickers in a twist.
@Zoki4444
@Zoki4444 4 жыл бұрын
Night Owl: What the hell happened to us? What happened to the American dream? The Comedian: What happened to the American dream? It came true! You're looking at it.
@MisterTutor2010
@MisterTutor2010 5 жыл бұрын
"...In Cell #1.", for a moment I thought it sounded like "Incel #1" :)
@WZRDr
@WZRDr 5 жыл бұрын
Work both ways
@Cwitch67
@Cwitch67 4 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, the video didn't include scam artist Jordan Peterson.
@MisterTutor2010
@MisterTutor2010 4 жыл бұрын
@@Cwitch67 In what way(s) is he a scam artist?
@johnrayordas
@johnrayordas 4 жыл бұрын
Wait it's not? Finished the whole video thinking he called them all incels.
@MisterTutor2010
@MisterTutor2010 4 жыл бұрын
@@johnrayordas An Incel who has been arrested is put In Cell :)
@TeeTee-bz3pv
@TeeTee-bz3pv 5 жыл бұрын
Betty Devos believing in you is a sure sign of a promising tech company....
@starvalkyrie
@starvalkyrie 5 жыл бұрын
You couldn't ask for a better sign to not trust someone lol...
@HappyLarry.
@HappyLarry. 5 жыл бұрын
@Gary McMichael If only you crawled out of your hole and saw something other than your echo chamber.
@jshricks
@jshricks 5 жыл бұрын
You know she made billions, right? Devos actually did achieve the American Dream. The real one, not the confused and twisted version Carlin and Wisecrack have. Oh Millennials. Always so sure they know everything while at the same time being so clueless about everything. The amazing part is how Millenials are able to maintain this state well past the age all previous generations grew out of it. Anyone can be scammed. For instance, how many people own iPhones?
@jshricks
@jshricks 5 жыл бұрын
@HappyLarry, I suspect Gary McMichael IS visiting from a differing echo by coming to a Wisecrack youtube channel. Like myself.
@jojoboko6990
@jojoboko6990 5 жыл бұрын
@@jshricks Hey Josh, gen z here. *"Always so sure they know everything while at the same time being so clueless about everything."* It's not about knowing everything; we live in the age of the internet. It's more about knowing how to get information. Like for example... *"You know she made billions, right? Devos actually did achieve the American Dream."* Always seems to be this mythos that if you're rich you"made" your money. If you go to her wikipedia page, you find out very quickly her father was a multimillionaire(company sold for 1.3B when he died), her husband was CEO of Amway. And her husband's father(the Co-founder of Amway) networth was estimated at 5.4 billion. Her networth on forbes is always in relation to the family(the 5.4 billion number), so I'd say the most likely situation is everyone else is piggybacking off Richard DeVos(husband's father). Looks to me like the "she made billions" claim is a little bit of a stretch. And I didn't even need to "know everything" to figure that out. Just had to look it up. Also, yes anyone can be scammed.
@yt_Ajay_
@yt_Ajay_ 5 жыл бұрын
I'd never heard Elisabeth Holmes speak before so she seemed normal, but then I saw Mark Zuckerberg at 4:49
@nathanlevesque7812
@nathanlevesque7812 5 жыл бұрын
@The TacomaKid You're conflating behavior with laryngeal frequency. Also yes, it is "normal". It's not common in women, but there's nothing abnormal about something being 'not average'. Lastly, you're grasping at straws by focusing on the word question. It's irrelevant to what was being asked. Replace it with statement, comment, or reply, and it's still asking you how what you said was applicable. Be denser. I dare you.
@michaelstokes4469
@michaelstokes4469 5 жыл бұрын
@The TacomaKid i thought her baritone was reportedly faked?
@kaibaCorpHQ
@kaibaCorpHQ 5 жыл бұрын
She took a little bit to much testosterone
@sebastiansirvas1530
@sebastiansirvas1530 5 жыл бұрын
@@nathanlevesque7812 Check the definition of abnormal.
@kyokyoniizukyo7171
@kyokyoniizukyo7171 5 жыл бұрын
ThatOneAsianBroChick Yeah! I find it fine...people just are getting to critical nowadays...
@claudiu7555
@claudiu7555 4 жыл бұрын
"Well respected bord memebers' "Henry Kissinger" bruh
@user-sw1wq8lh2w
@user-sw1wq8lh2w 4 жыл бұрын
And Murdock, rofl
@shaider1982
@shaider1982 4 жыл бұрын
He does have an austrian accent
@larazanz
@larazanz 4 жыл бұрын
Adam he wasn’t on the board tho
@HiDesert004
@HiDesert004 4 жыл бұрын
I just finish reading Bad Blood, Theranos was 100% a cult!
@jaxxie
@jaxxie 4 жыл бұрын
Listened to it too, I couldn't believe that that sh*t can still fly in this millennium.
@hmartinspliff
@hmartinspliff 4 жыл бұрын
If you don't 💯% believe that what we're doing at Theranos is the most important thing in the history of humanity *OR* if you are cynical then you can leave right now!
@thomasa.anderson9055
@thomasa.anderson9055 5 жыл бұрын
16:56 "That's pretty gangster" The fact that that turn of phrase exists pretty much validates your folk hero theory.
@planetruths1373
@planetruths1373 4 жыл бұрын
I don't think he realized how engrained he himself is.
@DandA604
@DandA604 5 жыл бұрын
Let’s be exceedingly clear here. Having worked with and called out Scammers over the course of many decades of my career at both an associate, union, state or provincial and federal level… These people are CRIMINALS. Period. They are not heroes. They are villains. They destroy lives. End of conversation. Full stop. They are heroes, if they get to their end goal destinations through honesty, integrity, and mutual teamwork and support with other individuals for a common goal. That is fulfilled. Not through fraud, not criminality, and not through lies. To express anything otherwise is insanity and pure folly.
@YevgeniyGritsan
@YevgeniyGritsan 5 жыл бұрын
Dal Ania, now that’s what I call a solid moral claim!
@brandonontama2415
@brandonontama2415 5 жыл бұрын
To bad everyone can be an hero nowadays, no matter how bad they are.
@DandA604
@DandA604 5 жыл бұрын
Brandon Ontama Good people are Good People, and only Good People. Bad People can scream, and shout, and lie, That will never make them good people.
@jrzjnz7573
@jrzjnz7573 5 жыл бұрын
I lost it at "fake husky voice" 😭
@emisordefrecuencia1
@emisordefrecuencia1 5 жыл бұрын
one of the things said reminded me of the phrase "the world rewards more the appearance of merit than merit itself" Francois de La Rochefoucauld
@camenandrewroyse
@camenandrewroyse 4 жыл бұрын
Seeing a La Rochefoucauld reference warms my heart. Im not saying that strictly out of vanity, right?
@Hanayuni
@Hanayuni 5 жыл бұрын
Sorokin's crimes sound pretty interesting though. A modern Catch Me If You Can kind of story, almost. I'd watch that!
@Night-rage
@Night-rage 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, she doesn't sound so bad, espescially compared to the others
@augustopoliche8908
@augustopoliche8908 5 жыл бұрын
I think that one is a slightly different case than the others, she is a victim from the things that society is selling us all the time
@oddanderson9131
@oddanderson9131 5 жыл бұрын
Michel van der Molen and yet she’s going to spend the most time in prison
@teacherdude
@teacherdude 5 жыл бұрын
Didn't F.Scott Fitzgerald write something about this very phenomenon? Oh, yes. The Great Gatsby.
@OfAngelsAndAnarchist
@OfAngelsAndAnarchist 5 жыл бұрын
You spent too much time around your mother You read like a teacher old lady, not a teacher dude
@tradingoffs4668
@tradingoffs4668 5 жыл бұрын
Compare and contrast
@otiagomarques
@otiagomarques 5 жыл бұрын
How was Gatsby a scammer?
@tradingoffs4668
@tradingoffs4668 5 жыл бұрын
@@otiagomarques It's implied that he made his fortune through organized crime or bootlegging.
@misterquantum9840
@misterquantum9840 4 жыл бұрын
It's amazing how far narcissists can make it in life. Sometimes all the way to The White House. Get a clue people.
@brianwalsh1401
@brianwalsh1401 4 жыл бұрын
It helps if you don't have to worry about having integrity or scruples. I think because as a society we've become so materialistic and status conscious as opposed to truly valuing oneself and others.
@northernchaotic7196
@northernchaotic7196 4 жыл бұрын
If you're hunting about trump, there's a big difference. You can See the wall trump promised. Ha!
@reanetsemoleleki8219
@reanetsemoleleki8219 3 жыл бұрын
It's not that amazing at all. They have an evolutionary advantage.
@Omikron_25
@Omikron_25 4 жыл бұрын
Wisecrack : Makes a video about scams and con artists. Also Wisecrack: Decides on Raid Shadow Legends as a sponsor for said video...
@silverblank1139
@silverblank1139 3 жыл бұрын
Where's the irony? It's a game full of microtransactions, not a ponzi scheme...
@BrunoSantos-sb6vh
@BrunoSantos-sb6vh 5 жыл бұрын
"Respectable board members like {generic war criminal #5} and {generic war criminal #8}". Ahem.
@davudpivac
@davudpivac 5 жыл бұрын
Keeping moral relativism in mind, they are respectable in America. In the rest of the world they would be considered war criminals tho.
@jotabeas22
@jotabeas22 5 жыл бұрын
'Murika! God damn.
@Arcfire21
@Arcfire21 5 жыл бұрын
What's wrong with Mad Dog?
@davudpivac
@davudpivac 5 жыл бұрын
@@Arcfire21 Apart from participating in the illegal Iraq invasion, here's a specific example: "In May 2004 Mattis ordered the 3 a.m. bombing of a suspected enemy safe house near the Syrian border, which later came to be known as the Mukaradeeb wedding party massacre and resulted in the deaths of 42 civilians, including 11 women and 14 children. Mattis said it had taken him 30 seconds to decide whether to bomb the location. Describing the wedding as implausible, he said, 'How many people go to the middle of the desert to hold a wedding 80 miles (130 km) from the nearest civilization? These were more than two dozen military-age males. Let's not be naive.'"
@ToddHowar.d
@ToddHowar.d 5 жыл бұрын
He was being sarcastic about “respectable”
@jarrod7465
@jarrod7465 5 жыл бұрын
"this is what happens when you try to change the world First they realise you defrauded investors and patients, then they take you to criminal court, then you spend 20 years in prison and go bankrupt"
@ssa6227
@ssa6227 5 жыл бұрын
Marie Curie, Ben Franklin, Louis Pasteur all changed the world without being hustlers. Get your head straight. There is huge difference between great people and criminals. How stupid can you be not to make that out?
@Elvalley
@Elvalley 4 жыл бұрын
@@ssa6227 I'm guessing you're medically unable to realize the commenter you're responding to is mocking her words, NOT defending her...
@Mandelasmind
@Mandelasmind 4 жыл бұрын
@@ssa6227 you're also naming people way outta this era
@JosephDavies
@JosephDavies 5 жыл бұрын
"[...] the most punchable face in America." Sorry, Ajit Pai is still the champion in that competition.
@stephenfiler3204
@stephenfiler3204 4 жыл бұрын
He's Indian though. You're not allowed to say that about people of color. You can still say it about white people tho
@yudeshsohan5853
@yudeshsohan5853 4 жыл бұрын
@@stephenfiler3204 Like every brown person I know wants to punch that dude lol
@tommybazar
@tommybazar 4 жыл бұрын
What about Jared Kushner though?
@JosephDavies
@JosephDavies 4 жыл бұрын
@@tommybazar He's a close runner-up. Sadly, it's a contest where no matter who wins, we all lose.
@NotShowingOff
@NotShowingOff 3 жыл бұрын
Stephen Filer I’ll take tour turn
@LittleCuteNekogirl
@LittleCuteNekogirl 5 жыл бұрын
I'm always a little confused when someone says "we admire and idolise the (super) rich". Personally, as long as their money doesn't come from them being good artists, I almost automatically distrust them and question their ethics because most ways to get rich, leagl or not, require you to be shady, ruthless or at least a dislikable person. The desire to hord wealth in any form beyond a comfortable upper middelclass lifestyle alone has a pathological ring to me.
@eurekamreum5458
@eurekamreum5458 4 жыл бұрын
I don't "distrust" them but it truly makes me think that, in order to get to that level (and even if you get there by doing/providing something good for the community) you HAVE TO loose your own values and morals to some degree, and turn a blind eye to shady shit all the time; that's the only way those already on that circle would let you be one of their own.
@Openreality
@Openreality 4 жыл бұрын
Right? Less than scum should pioneer living on the sun and get out of my ecosystem.
@Openreality
@Openreality 4 жыл бұрын
@@eurekamreum5458 That's part of it, but the rabbit hole is much deeper than that. And that's more than enough for me personally to never go near that line of thought and or curiosity, because if one is remotely that curious, their desire for the unknown overwhelms them to the point of achieving what they neither intended, nor desired in the first place, so it's best to leave good alone imo.
@alexbennet4195
@alexbennet4195 3 жыл бұрын
That’s because you’re not dumb and actually think critically about the situation.
@AwestynJaxxxson
@AwestynJaxxxson 5 жыл бұрын
You know what's a scam? Those microtransactiony games you have as your sponsors
@Bvggerffpls
@Bvggerffpls 5 жыл бұрын
someone finally said it. I'm sick of seeing all my favourite KZfaqrs promoting the same predatory cash cow
@gingergamergirl98
@gingergamergirl98 5 жыл бұрын
Agreed. However, they need to pay their bills, and we all know Adsense doesn’t pay bills unless you get millions upon millions of views.
@Bvggerffpls
@Bvggerffpls 5 жыл бұрын
@@torquatoLucas Can't tell if you're arguing semantics or for the morality of including in-game purchases in games. Either way, when a developer markets a game as free, they do so with the knowledge that A) the game is designed in a way that encourages the player to spend money and B) there is (in most cases) no defined upper limit to the money one can spend and the profit devs can reap. The "how will the poor devs feed their families?" argument doesn't excuse the fact that these games are like capitalistic fish-nets. Most players are small fish and have the self-control to regulate their spending but others don't and can become addicted. This business model cynically preys on these individuals. In the face of such blatant predation, debates over whether or not they fit the textbook definition of 'scam' or 'gambling' are irrelevant. In regards to your last point, the only reason mobile games are unanimously considered to be inferior is for the simple reason that the people who make them are merely part of a gold rush to make as much money as they can, as quickly as they can. There is little to suggest they are passionate about the products they pump out, more about the bank they can make. I would suggest simply selling whole games for a set price (what a novel concept!) with add-ons released at a later date or something of that nature. But obviously that doesn't happen as much because it isn't as lucrative, once again demonstrating the moral and creative inferiority of the mobile games industry as a whole and the system that perpetuates it. Do you personally profit off of this economy? Or do you just like playing devil's advocate to the nth degree? Because your comment reads an awful lot like a guilty self-justification.
@underballbutter
@underballbutter 5 жыл бұрын
The problem is capitalism dude. No Gamers are not some oppressed special minority. At least not more than any other consumer. Yea my games are ruined too. Repeat after me: Fuck Capitalism.
@danfinch5692
@danfinch5692 5 жыл бұрын
@@Bvggerffpls The games are free, with ingame purchases, which is made pretty clear most of the time. So you know what you get. And if you feel like you can't play a game properly without paying and really don't want to pay, then move on and stop playing that game. No one is forced to play these games or pay for ingame purchases. With almost every other product or service you have the choice. Don't blame companies for selling you stuff that you don't need, but only yourself for buying it. And of course there are some people that spend more money for certain things. But again, those people make the concious choice of paying. Because tricking them into paying, would be actual fraud. And also of course they do want to make profit, and the higher the better, because they are companies, that is how companies operate, they need money to pay their employees and invest in company/future projects. And to say that the mobiles games industry is morally and creatively inferior to the games industry doesn't make sense, since the games industry also uses ingame purchases, bacause, as you said, selling a game for a set price isn't as lucrative, because game production can be really expensive and selling a game for the normal price wouldn't be enough to finance a lot of triple A games. If you don't like games with ingame purchases, then don't support them. Because you don't have to play any game you don't like.
@danchase7454
@danchase7454 5 жыл бұрын
**cough** TAI LOPEZ **COUGH**
@bkr1895
@bkr1895 5 жыл бұрын
YOU MUST HAVE ENOUGH FUEL UNITS!!!
@vijaz5559
@vijaz5559 5 жыл бұрын
What scam?
@jlupus8804
@jlupus8804 5 жыл бұрын
Still hasn’t been proven to be a scammer
@DavidKFZ
@DavidKFZ 5 жыл бұрын
@@jlupus8804 Not a scammer, but at the same time has used a LOT of smoke and mirrors to give off a certain appearance and rode the fake it till you make it principle pretty hard
@Gsalaman92
@Gsalaman92 5 жыл бұрын
KNOWLEDGE!
@cheddar2648
@cheddar2648 5 жыл бұрын
Jesus, how does one arrive at "fraudsters became heroes?" "moral relativism" ah, got it. haha
@Gfish17
@Gfish17 4 жыл бұрын
I hate Rich people. I want to be rich. These scammers are my heroes . They are Dishonest but they tried to make thier American Dream a American Reality. The next scammers will learn from thier mistakes and not get cought.
@dexboat1733
@dexboat1733 4 жыл бұрын
Well, there is no objective morality.
@alisonfriedman5288
@alisonfriedman5288 4 жыл бұрын
It would make more sense if he included Caroline Calloway in here.
@Gfish17
@Gfish17 3 жыл бұрын
@ThoughtCrime Guess so. But I tried Being "Healthy" for a moment and I felt like throwing stuff. I didn't feel like, Me. Felt Like my Skin was crawling. Like That scene from Robocop 2 when OCP tried to make Murphy into a good influence for the Children. Robocop literally Fried himself to get that shit out of his head.
@reanetsemoleleki8219
@reanetsemoleleki8219 3 жыл бұрын
@@Gfish17 I minority of scammers will always get caught. The trick is to scam small, I think.
@erichodosh2933
@erichodosh2933 4 жыл бұрын
It wasn't just rich kids spending tens of thousands of their parents money. Most spent around $1200 on what was advertised as an all inclusive trip to the Bahamas. Source: Internet Historian.
@BewareTheLilyOfTheValley
@BewareTheLilyOfTheValley 4 жыл бұрын
Love his videos :) But yes, not everything was overly expensive and therein was part of the problem. If you're going to market this event to the high class, the prices need to reflect that across the board. Tickets for as low as $500 or $1000 for a trip to a private island isn't going to cover operating costs at all unless hundreds of thousands go. He couldn't even afford to cover the entertainment (and realizing that, the entertainers wisely dropped out); that should've been the sign to call it off.
@reanetsemoleleki8219
@reanetsemoleleki8219 3 жыл бұрын
@@BewareTheLilyOfTheValley so this scam failed because of poor financial acumen? I didn't even think about that but it makes sense. He could have priced it like a low volume high margin item.
@thomasbrady3827
@thomasbrady3827 3 жыл бұрын
@@BewareTheLilyOfTheValley the guy who thought of it must have been immaculately stupid to think he could afford to run the festival he wanted to with the tickets at that price
@ofeekins9614
@ofeekins9614 5 жыл бұрын
Can't wait for fyre festival 2
@greenghost2008
@greenghost2008 5 жыл бұрын
Electric boogaloo
@Jeremy-ql1or
@Jeremy-ql1or 5 жыл бұрын
You missed it. It was last weekend. It started pretty well but then my mom came home and made everybody leave. People are demanding refunds for their $2700 tickets but the small print clearly says there are no refunds.
@norbertomaya790
@norbertomaya790 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Doug! Jared is now in full power!
@adaode3413
@adaode3413 5 жыл бұрын
I kept trying to brush your hair out of my eyes 😂
@Bella_Rei
@Bella_Rei 5 жыл бұрын
"Eating chili in the prison mess hall" This man knows nothing of prison food. lol
@biggiejeffrey
@biggiejeffrey 5 жыл бұрын
Is it just me, or has anyone else noticed that Elizabeth Holmes looks like the lost twin of that crazy woman on Kitchen Nightmares from ABC Bakery?
@FluffiestBunBuns
@FluffiestBunBuns 5 жыл бұрын
i totally see it! amy just looks/is a bit older.
@IloveGorgeousGeorge
@IloveGorgeousGeorge 5 жыл бұрын
I live in Scottsdale and I've seen that lunatic around. They definitely share a certain...deadness in their eyes lol.
@zarabee2880
@zarabee2880 5 жыл бұрын
Jeffrey Williams you’re so right!!!!! Crazy Amy!!!!
@syndicaterx
@syndicaterx 5 жыл бұрын
Me too. Wasn’t her husband got imprisoned or something
@biggiejeffrey
@biggiejeffrey 5 жыл бұрын
@@syndicaterx Yes. For tax evasion, I think.
@jwalkr001
@jwalkr001 5 жыл бұрын
"...tweeting about the president outside your echo chamber is risky..." Lmao
@MarinaAli
@MarinaAli 2 жыл бұрын
I love rewatching Wisecrack videos. Seeing this now in 2022, after watching the Sorokin Netflix show and the Holmes Hulu series, it's crazy how so much of what Jared said is still true. He was so on point on a lot of his ideas.
@pythonjava6228
@pythonjava6228 5 жыл бұрын
Raising the prices of medicines people need is a depraved crime
@gingergamergirl98
@gingergamergirl98 5 жыл бұрын
lio marvel Except it’s not a crime (just immoral imo) :/ But unfortunately...that’s capitalism for ya: things people literally need to live are sold for profit. People aren’t what matter to Big Pharma; profit margins are all they care about. I don’t understand how people like that sleep at night, honestly.
@akba666
@akba666 5 жыл бұрын
They are neither. They are just criminals and people are bored.
@JustCozItsMe
@JustCozItsMe 5 жыл бұрын
That ignores how many other things the masses couldave chosen as the next rising trend. They also clearly address this to a degree in the vid, its no different than the long speculation over human interest in serial killers.
@Frdyan
@Frdyan 5 жыл бұрын
The only reasonable stance
@EstebanGallardo
@EstebanGallardo 5 жыл бұрын
You are overthinking too much... They are humans... that's better, don't you think?
@davidmhh9977
@davidmhh9977 5 жыл бұрын
I think there is somewhat of a morbid admiration of them, even if people don't want to admit it. People like to think they could become wealthy some day. I feel like on some level, scammers are a distortion of rags to riches success. People like the idea that with enough hard work and skill, they become millionaires and want to emulate that success. I think people do get some sense of satisfaction just from knowing that even if they don't have honesty, or even skills, they can still play make believe until they get that lifestyle.
@nateblack8669
@nateblack8669 5 жыл бұрын
Elizabeth Holmes looks cybernetic.
@br8745
@br8745 5 жыл бұрын
I wonder how she feels about John Conner...lol.
@axelm4164
@axelm4164 5 жыл бұрын
Lizard people
@nateblack8669
@nateblack8669 5 жыл бұрын
@@br8745 There's actually no doubt in my mind that she's a terminator. Lol.
@bkr1895
@bkr1895 5 жыл бұрын
Detroit Become Elizabeth
@axelm4164
@axelm4164 5 жыл бұрын
@@bkr1895 LoL. But even those androids display more emotions than her.
@MisterTutor2010
@MisterTutor2010 5 жыл бұрын
With all his money, you'd think Shkreli could afford a better haircut :)
@sor3999
@sor3999 5 жыл бұрын
He's looks like emo Peter Parker from Spider-Man 3.
@murraysaucedo897
@murraysaucedo897 4 жыл бұрын
Just going to play Devils Advocate for the sake of it here but with all that money you don’t need to look good to impress anyone
@MisterTutor2010
@MisterTutor2010 4 жыл бұрын
@@murraysaucedo897 True. However I was making no point beyond making fun of his haircut.
@koalasquare2145
@koalasquare2145 5 жыл бұрын
this is really thought-provoking, well done
@Ragnarok540
@Ragnarok540 5 жыл бұрын
Kind of fitting to promote a mobile game on a video about scams.
@topoljM
@topoljM 5 жыл бұрын
Yup, and in the same video calling people who play fortnite weird...
@Bvggerffpls
@Bvggerffpls 5 жыл бұрын
@@Matt-km7ly I noticed that this particular Wisecrack video contained more emotive, divisive language than some of their other videos like 'douchebag' and 'punchable'. I'm probably just imagining things but it did strike me as odd
@MrBern-ex3wq
@MrBern-ex3wq 5 жыл бұрын
@@Bvggerffpls Well remember what the video is about. It could be to reinforce/feed the theme.
@PyroMancer2k
@PyroMancer2k 5 жыл бұрын
They didn't "Beat the free market at it's own game." This is one of the big misconceptions of what the free market is. The free market is founded on the volunteer free exchange of goods and services in which both parties agree to the exchange, which is not what scammers do. When one party is dishonest the other party can't make a volunteer agreement and thus it's not permitted by the free market. This is why things like bait and switch, fraud, and etc are illegal. Both parties agreed to a deal in good faith and then one party altered the deal without the other's consent. At it's core the free market relies on a level of trust in order to work. Scammers abuse that trust as bad actors and then try to claim it's all part of the free market because the other person agreed to trust them.
@BT-oj1bn
@BT-oj1bn 5 жыл бұрын
They beat the actually existing so called free market at its own game. Every single corporation tells lies in their advertising and marketing.
@Bermeslivre
@Bermeslivre 5 жыл бұрын
False. Any profitable company is a scam in essence. To make profits, that is, the difference between costs and revenue become positive, you either make revenue grow more than the costs (making customers believe things are worth more than they cost to make) or driving costs downward (usually involving making workers think their work is less valuable than it is).
@MagicAndReason
@MagicAndReason 5 жыл бұрын
@@Bermeslivre That's actually a really interesting idea, so I'll give you a thumb's up. However, companies are able to utilize *efficiencies of scale* that allow bargaining power when purchasing supplies & labor and when advertising & distributing. No one consumer can make such economies of scale. However, there are such things as consumer blocks (such as the Affordable Care Act exchanges) which bring together the bargaining power of many consumers in order to force lower healthcare prices. So, your idea is interesting, because it encompasses imperfect information. But even if consumers had perfect information, they'd be fighting economies of scale and opportunity costs (perhaps they can make more money driving for Lyft than they could save by making their own bottle of aspirin).
@ianj705
@ianj705 5 жыл бұрын
The free market is for idiots. Just ask the banks who get bailouts for fraud.
@MagicAndReason
@MagicAndReason 5 жыл бұрын
@@ianj705 The question is: how can a market remain free when every player in that market wants it to be as un-free (in their favor as possible? The answer is government regulation.
@KarlPhillipBuhr
@KarlPhillipBuhr 4 жыл бұрын
I subscribed right after you said "Award wining Steve Jobs impersonator".
@esotericVideos
@esotericVideos 4 жыл бұрын
"People like these stories because it gives us some things as a society that we can all agree are amoral, and that is cathartic" - Yes! "But what if these people are heroes?" Wait what?
@JP-gt7xn
@JP-gt7xn 5 жыл бұрын
I read the title as “fyre fest, *THANOS* , and martin shkrelli”
@gingergamergirl98
@gingergamergirl98 5 жыл бұрын
J P Lol same tbh
@Justanotherconsumer
@Justanotherconsumer 5 жыл бұрын
Screw up enough test results and you might not get half, but you’d cull a bit. “Treat the patient, not the test result” likely would save most of them though.
@mc-ge2bt
@mc-ge2bt 5 жыл бұрын
If they’re heros to you may I suggest upping your standards.
@TheRageng
@TheRageng 5 жыл бұрын
No, you may not.
@TryinaD
@TryinaD 5 жыл бұрын
Stop liking Robin Hood then.
@DavidTSmith-jn5bs
@DavidTSmith-jn5bs 5 жыл бұрын
Robin Hood didn't CON the rich, he robbed from the rich who robbed from the poor. Not exactly the same thing. It's like hating Edmund Dantes from "The Count of Monty Cristo" for getting back at the rich and powerful for imprisoning him. These parasites don't come close to comparing to Robin or Edmund.
@Iliketheflatb00bs
@Iliketheflatb00bs 3 жыл бұрын
Perfectly formulated video, articulate & digestable and as insightful as always. Man, I love Wisecrack
@KR4Qep
@KR4Qep 3 жыл бұрын
Pharma bro is actually a good dude that trolled insurance companies. No one had to pay more for medication other than insurance companies that were forced to honor prescriptions. He’d take the time to talk to anyone. He was in a Facebook group I’m in and gave everyone his full attention
@boeingnz
@boeingnz 5 жыл бұрын
16:47 don't trust anyone who doesn't blink.
@Mandelasmind
@Mandelasmind 4 жыл бұрын
Shes like the failed prototype. Zuckerberg is the Pro model
@M0N60
@M0N60 5 жыл бұрын
The part about moral relativism really hit me. This is why I enjoy your channel. Your content makes me reflect on my own behaviour and my way of thinking. Thank you.
@mcuserton
@mcuserton 5 жыл бұрын
If this were my channel, that would be the best compliment.
@M0N60
@M0N60 5 жыл бұрын
Mezzerz I know what he’s essentially saying. I use moral relativism all the time and actually feel that this is the the only honest approach to morality. There is no absolute morality. But now that I have a name for that concept I ask myself why I do it. I assume it‘s to avoid confrontations or to keep a door open to behave in a way I might have considered to be immoral at some point in time. Also I’ve been accused of being a-moral and this does not fit my self image at all. Fantastic food for thought!
@drakkenmensch
@drakkenmensch 4 жыл бұрын
4:57 imagine the gall of quoting GANDHI to defend her billion dollar scam!!!
@brianwalsh1401
@brianwalsh1401 4 жыл бұрын
Anything is easy to do if you have no shame. Don't try and look at them through your perception of life because it's confounding. It's hard for people to understand the cluster B mentality as much as it's confounding for them to try and understand empathy or the feeling of shame.
@drakkenmensch
@drakkenmensch 4 жыл бұрын
@@brianwalsh1401 The existence in most people and lack of human compassion in a few others does create an impassible barrier of comprehension as to how the other side manages to somehow function.
@chowfun1976
@chowfun1976 4 жыл бұрын
Elizabeth Holmes used to live down the street from me in San Francisco. This was after her company tanked and she was charged with fraud. Looking at her you would never know she was going through anything bad. She didn’t seem to have a care in the world, walking her husky around the neighbor, and lunching with her friends. She clearly has sociopathic tendencies.
@StompinPaul
@StompinPaul 5 жыл бұрын
While I think you've got an interesting take, I'm going to disagree with it. They didn't beat the system by pulling the wool over the eyes of the people in charge, who we generally think of as the antagonists, they beat it by joining such people through fooling and harming innocent bystanders. This is my interpretation, but a folk hero is someone who succeeds despite long odds. These guys are the inverse if anything: blatant villains who were ultimately beaten, despite that being an outcome that at least seemed unlikely. I don't think we admire anything about them, I think we like seeing them because we get to feel righteous indignation and on top of that we get to watch them topple. We get both the satisfaction of watching someone who who behaved immorally get their just reward, and we get to point and laugh at someone in a context that's guilt free.
@BewareTheLilyOfTheValley
@BewareTheLilyOfTheValley 4 жыл бұрын
He mentioned this as well. He pointed out the example of talking about politics with a random person outside your social group versus talking about the people in this video. That talk of politics has a very risky chance of devolving into chaos while everyone, no matter what side your on, can feel comfortable pointing and talking about these people.
@astrosci8864
@astrosci8864 4 жыл бұрын
Plus, the real reason why we enjoy watching them tumble is jealousy that they did something immoral that you didn't and got away with it while becoming extremely wealthy.
@reanetsemoleleki8219
@reanetsemoleleki8219 3 жыл бұрын
You aren't disagreeing with the video, though. Personally I think it's both. I actually admire the girl who pretended to be an heiress. In the spirit of moral relativism you can despise Holmes and admire McFarlane if endangering lives is where you draw the line.
@HeartOfTheForest
@HeartOfTheForest 2 жыл бұрын
💯
@imonymous
@imonymous 5 жыл бұрын
"Incel number 1..." Hey hey, we know they're bad people, but there's no need to call names... 1:25
@billwang8502
@billwang8502 5 жыл бұрын
He said, "in cell number 1", not incel.
@dvt1393
@dvt1393 5 жыл бұрын
@@billwang8502 r/whoosh
@RockSolitude
@RockSolitude 5 жыл бұрын
"Incels r bad ppl" lmfao
@connorbranscombe6819
@connorbranscombe6819 5 жыл бұрын
@@dvt1393 r/Ihavereddit
@6.5ftkristapsporzingis71
@6.5ftkristapsporzingis71 5 жыл бұрын
Bill over your head bro
@health.is.wealth.
@health.is.wealth. 5 жыл бұрын
By far, this is the best episode of Wisecrack I ever watched
@StephanieDev
@StephanieDev 5 жыл бұрын
I can’t hear “Theranos” with out thinking “Thanos”
@MegaKootz
@MegaKootz 5 жыл бұрын
If people die long before they naturally would have because you wanted a swell in the bank account, I would say that makes you a devil kinda devil dont you think?
@Gfish17
@Gfish17 4 жыл бұрын
Nope.
@Deltasquad382943
@Deltasquad382943 4 жыл бұрын
@@Gfish17 *Yep How tf is that not devilish?
@Gfish17
@Gfish17 4 жыл бұрын
Easy no paranormal powers were involved.
@dexboat1733
@dexboat1733 4 жыл бұрын
Well, neither morality nor the devil exist as anything other than social constructs.
@hmartinspliff
@hmartinspliff 4 жыл бұрын
I've watched the Exorcist and I'm convinced Elizabeth Holmes is possessed by the devil with that unnaturally low voice.....along with that unnerving unblinking stare, I bet she can rotate her head thru 360 degrees too.
@alphabah49
@alphabah49 5 жыл бұрын
This really brings into question why we admire rich people so much
@alexsmith2910
@alexsmith2910 5 жыл бұрын
Fuck capitalism.
@wilmagregg3131
@wilmagregg3131 5 жыл бұрын
we assume they worked hard to get where they are and the ones that do deserve respect for going from nothing to everything but scammers and asshole bussiness men who dont repspect there customers dont deserve any repect
@elianny9187
@elianny9187 5 жыл бұрын
They can buy whatever they want, don't have to worry about bill collectors and people underestimating them.
@wilmagregg3131
@wilmagregg3131 5 жыл бұрын
@@alexsmith2910 anarchism monoarchism and communism are worse because they all end in one person or group having everything and everyone else having nothing with regulated capitalism youll have a group having more then everyone else but almost everyone has something and can become something and at minimum will always have a voice be it there vote or there wallet
@sublimetech
@sublimetech 5 жыл бұрын
@@wilmagregg3131 regulated capitalism is fine, problem is that people are deregulating
@meghandenny6922
@meghandenny6922 5 жыл бұрын
It's both. We love them because they're the rags to riches story we never will be and they're also the villain getting successfully brought to justice, not to mention assisted by their stupidity fueled by greed. They made it to the top, couldn't stop climbing, and justice kicked them off the ladder with bars catching them on the way down.
@GalacticAstroparticles
@GalacticAstroparticles 5 жыл бұрын
There is no true objective right moral compass, but civilizations arbitrarily "agree" on one, or at least common guidelines. This is how laws are made, how nations and religions are constructed and function etc.. These standard rules evolve and change over time, but they are present at any given time since civilization began. Because, if nothing else, *civilization is the arbitrarily agreed upon moral compass* that society follows. Not an objectively and absolutely correct one, as there is no such thing, but the overall approximation of the subjective moral compass of its subjects/members.
@adfggffffffddffd
@adfggffffffddffd 5 жыл бұрын
"We'll have to see how that argument goes over in the San Jose court house." lol
@thetrumpnewsnetwork7503
@thetrumpnewsnetwork7503 5 жыл бұрын
Why does Billy McFarland look like he's related to Seth McFarland?
@yungjc2
@yungjc2 5 жыл бұрын
Seth has spent years trying to cover it up...
@yt_Ajay_
@yt_Ajay_ 4 жыл бұрын
Elisabeth Holmes' voice makes my eyes water. Literally the thing about cutting onions, but literally.
@GoatyCultist
@GoatyCultist 4 жыл бұрын
I love wisecrack and all, the the assumption that were all confused by moral relativism. Some of us know we're in the moral right, and do our research to make sure our morals always stand up for the betterment of others.
@Handle35667
@Handle35667 5 жыл бұрын
This channel is like pulp fiction for psychology. All the ideas are so funny
@manudehanoi
@manudehanoi 5 жыл бұрын
contrasting moral relativity with the universal condemnation of the crooks was a good one. Thanks
@MagicAndReason
@MagicAndReason 5 жыл бұрын
I think the so-called problems of moral relativism were overblown in this essay so that they could bring up some related topics they wanted to shoehorn in. Moral relativism is often blown up to be some kind of boogeyman - particularly by evangelical conservatives.
@manudehanoi
@manudehanoi 5 жыл бұрын
@@MagicAndReason Moral relativism is a real issue in the US right now with the whole oppression olympics (black lives matter, LGBT, feminists, affirmative action etc...), if you add political correctness on top of that I believe OP has a real point contrasting moral relativism with the unifying moral absolutism. And the boogeyman are the depicted crooks
@MagicAndReason
@MagicAndReason 5 жыл бұрын
manu de hanoi OK well, first of all, anyone who unironically uses the term "oppression Olympics" is already an asshole in my book. But I suppose you could say there is a type of moral relativism between evangelicals and humanists, where evangelicals believe that LGBT & women should have less rights and humanists don't. And I suppose you can say there's more "moral relativism" when conservatives get cranky about political correctness because it asks them to talk about minorities & women in ways that don't support racism & patriarchy. Um... I guess you can also say there's moral relativism between humanists & evangelicals because evangelicals see no value in the scientific process as it applies to their foundational predicates (ie the supernatural). Conservatives tend to make a bigger deal out of moral relativism than most. But in truth, there's a lot of overlap between people who think the Earth is 6,000 years old and those who think it's 4.3 billion years old. I suppose moral relativism is a crisis to conservatives who believe that only certain classes of humans deserve full rights. I don't know what you mean by "And the boogeyman are the depicted crooks."
@GubekochiGoury
@GubekochiGoury 5 жыл бұрын
I find the notion that anyone could feel anything but disgust toward Shkreli to be perplexing and the idea of qualifying him of a folks' hero absolutely perverse.
@F4n74.
@F4n74. 4 жыл бұрын
Talking about scam.... RAID: SHADOW LEGENDSSSS!!!!
@estherbesson2164
@estherbesson2164 5 жыл бұрын
nobody: elizabeth holmes: 👀 (she looks like a robot)
@thefloridamanofytcomments5264
@thefloridamanofytcomments5264 5 жыл бұрын
A Steve Jobs themed sex robot.
@Elbot120
@Elbot120 5 жыл бұрын
Dude from 16:45 that whole walk she didn't blink at all
@idonwonpeace8238
@idonwonpeace8238 5 жыл бұрын
I'm really attracted to her
@cipher8400
@cipher8400 5 жыл бұрын
who actually respects these people? It would be stupid to do so.
@revspikejonez
@revspikejonez 5 жыл бұрын
Stupid people love them.
@SurprisinglyDeep
@SurprisinglyDeep 5 жыл бұрын
I think very few actually respect them, but lots of people begrudgingly respect their audacity
@tonylawson2222
@tonylawson2222 5 жыл бұрын
A person respects a rattlesnake, when they hear it's rattle. The recognition of danger posed by a creature, of it's ability, is a form of respect. Not the formal kind, with the social gestures we are obligated to; there's no rules structure, like there would be with two individuals who are equally protected by morality and law. Now these people, they're tricksters. The "threat" they pose, that intrinsic danger, is deceit. It is, by it's nature, unknown to it's victims. It's a rattle you can't hear. Can only pick up on by observation and attention. They have this power, and therefore merit respect, in an amoral way. You can still condemn something that can merit respect, however. They are not mutually exclusive concepts.
@cipher8400
@cipher8400 5 жыл бұрын
@@tonylawson2222 I understand what you mean, respect is something earned, however, maybe people respect them because they worked really hard for their plans, and had an ideology (which was somewhat justified). However, these people are described (in the video at least) in a way that made it seem like they were just doing it for the sake of doing it, so it seems illogical to respect them, it's the same way you don't respect a psychopath. E.G I understand people who respect Darth Vader, he had a troublesome childhood / early adulthood, so he worked with all his might to eradicate whatever harmed him, he went through pain and suffering to get to his designated destination (or, the rattlesnake looks scary for self-defense, it rattles to fear its enemies, and hides the fear it has), but the video just describes these people as greedy and unrelatable scums of the earth who just happened to beat Mario because they played it on easy mode.
@tonylawson2222
@tonylawson2222 5 жыл бұрын
@@cipher8400 I see our difference, on this matter, as a matter of context. I'd say we are the NPC's in that easy mode Mario game. I try to keep my position in mind, being human and all. I'd also say it's possible you've got more of a positive, complimentary, or empathetic, concept of "respect" than I do. I would not, personally, say a person's moral character has any bearing on whether or not they can be respected in some quality, that they might have ability worthy of respecting from one's own position. Not that there's anything, necessarily, wrong with your way of viewing it. I just have my own.
@ranquyetthangt1934
@ranquyetthangt1934 5 жыл бұрын
Maybe people like Fyre Festival because they like the vanity of the social influencers, people like Theranos because they want the "disrupters" to wag a middle finger to the big corp, as a "give it to the man" moment, and people like Martin Shkreli because, ugh, I have no idea there are people who like Martin Shkreli. I don't think these have enough in common to put them all into a group.
@ItsCalebThomas
@ItsCalebThomas 3 жыл бұрын
Your finishing quips, buttons, and punchlines are so uniquely hilarious 😆 First video I’ve seen of yours, very funny content !
@pedrohenrique-et3fs
@pedrohenrique-et3fs 5 жыл бұрын
because we live in a time where everything is acceptable in order to achieve victory, which creates the ironic result of sabotaging everything done
@bart234465
@bart234465 5 жыл бұрын
Because we love all types of true crime stories? Serial killers, cult leaders, scammers, etc
@Mark-yb1sp
@Mark-yb1sp 4 жыл бұрын
This is one of the better videos on youtube. Keep them coming. Excellent narration.
@roguedogx
@roguedogx 4 жыл бұрын
to your exit question I would say it's a case of "eye of the beholder". To the vast majority of people, they are villians, but to the subset of the population that views "what is moral = what I can get away with" they are heros. which is actually a pretty good litmus test as to who you should trust if it can be quantified.
@t3tsuyaguy1
@t3tsuyaguy1 5 жыл бұрын
Moral relativism is not the position that everyone is free to apply their own moral constructs at will. It is the observation that different groups of people throughout history internalize and express the same moral precepts in differing ways. Some peoples have burned their dead, while others have buried them. Both engage in these practices to express respect for those who have passed, and at times have been horrified by the competing practice, finding it repugnant, because they regard it as disrespectful. Recognizing the existence of moral relativism in our collective human experience does not leave us unable to take a moral position. It simply accepts that blindly arguing our perspective is likely to be ineffective, while taking the time to understand what underpins the behavior of others can allow us to find our commonly held values. It is not anathema to moral discourse, but empowers it to achieve a deeper more lasting resolution to perceived differences.
@vasararh
@vasararh 5 жыл бұрын
I love te direction you are going with the channel
@joshua4996
@joshua4996 5 жыл бұрын
Ad ends at 1:20
@cleanbladenegro1
@cleanbladenegro1 5 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: YT channel Internet Historian did a piece of Fyre that dropped details that the Netflix and Hulu Documentaries missed. Highly recommend because there are some serious tidbits about Frye that should have been mentioned.
@ejeckk
@ejeckk 5 жыл бұрын
They are ethically bereft. None are certainly anyone I would admire.
@ianj705
@ianj705 5 жыл бұрын
ejeckk fake it till you make it
@JohnHorneGuitar
@JohnHorneGuitar 5 жыл бұрын
"Hip" goes back to the 1940's, at least. Does that make mom uncomfortably clued-in or are we all relying on outdated slang?
@ceulgai2817
@ceulgai2817 5 жыл бұрын
Does a term being old make it outdated? I'd disagree.
@jeffwilliams1308
@jeffwilliams1308 2 жыл бұрын
The disturbing theme is that the guy ripping off citizens for a music fest got 6 years, the woman potentially jeopardizing people's health with fake blood tests is undetermined, the guy raising the the price of life saving drugs 5000%, literally a death sentence for the people who need it, got seven years. But the one who conned disgustingly rich hotels, restaurants and businessmen out of 6 figures total (a mere fraction of each of the previous three, and with no threat to human life unlike two of them), got 15 years. It's sick.
@unfortunatewitnessX
@unfortunatewitnessX 5 жыл бұрын
They are not folk heroes, but scammers who took the con game to a whole new level.
@camiloguzman1801
@camiloguzman1801 5 жыл бұрын
These people are good examples of amazing salesman but with no skin on the game. They are the example of the kind of person we need recognize at the spot and evoid.
@Menmenthealth
@Menmenthealth 5 жыл бұрын
Martin skrelli only upped the price of medication for giant companies that would buy them in bulk. Though he did a lot of other weird stuff, he showed us this is what pharmaceutical companies can do without any scrutiny. That's why he was crucified. Because he exposed a giant money machine.
@gingergamergirl98
@gingergamergirl98 5 жыл бұрын
Adriaan Sluijs He was ‘crucified’ because people find for-profit healthcare morally reprehensible, particularly extreme cases of such blatant profit-chasing (at the expense of people’s well being, I might add). That’s what he was doing btw; upping his profit margins. People like him are perfectly happy with the way the system works (it **benefits them**, after all). People like that don’t give a fuck about us poor and middle class people. As long as they can use their obscene wealth to make ***even more money***, they don’t give a shit what happens to anybody else.
@devlinmcbane7255
@devlinmcbane7255 5 жыл бұрын
Scam artists are like a traffic jam on the road to humanity’s developing collective progression, and often cut down people’s and entire family’s financial attributes into an undeserved poverty just because some piece of shit knew the right words to say to trick someone who was either desperate, naive, or simply unwitting due to not having the kind of mind that is incredibly selfish and unwilling to actually earn anything unless someone else is losing.
@majopareja
@majopareja 5 жыл бұрын
"Hate to love to hate": That thing you say when you can't decide if you either love to hate or hate to love something.
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