How Gondolin Fell to the Dark Lord - Middle-Earth Lore DOCUMENTARY

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Wizards and Warriors animated fantasy documentary lore video series on the world of Middle-Earth - Lord of the Rings continues with the second video on the First Age. We discuss the creation of the world of Tolkien, its powers and races and we see how and why the Elves became the enemies of the Dark Lord Melkor, who they called Morgoth, after their leader Fëanor cursed him for killing his father Finwë and stealing his prized possession - Silmarils (kzfaq.info/get/bejne/hL2HiJiivbbUhZs.html), while this video will show the continuation of the events. In Middle-Earth, Morgoth attacks the Teleri Elves in Doriath and his allies starting the War of the Jewels with the First Battle of the Beleriand. Meanwhile, in the Valinor, the Noldor Elves of Feanor attack their Teleri relatives in the First Kinslaying. Afterwards, Feanor and his sons travel to the Middle-Earth to fight Morgoth and take the Silmarils, leading to the battles of Dagor-nuin-Giliath and Lammoth and the death of Feanor (kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pdCgdrRoxNTblZs.html). In the aftermath the Noldor kingdoms rise in the Middle-Earth taking on Morgoth once again, this time at the battle of Dagor Aglareb, where Feanor's sons Fingolfin and Maedhros fought against the Dark Lord, while the humans - the House of Edain (kzfaq.info/get/bejne/n8qIeLxnvZOWmpc.html) rose elswhere. The fourth episode will describe the battle of Dagor Bragollach and the rise of the father of Dragons Glaurung (kzfaq.info/get/bejne/l6qPo6Wjzdeyc2g.html). In the aftermath of the defeat the Elves and Men were on the back foot and the evil spread, but from those dark days, an Beren and Lúthien rose to challenge the darkness (kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ladzhaZ_zafFhGw.html), and defeated Morgoth (kzfaq.info/get/bejne/prOantmpvLargaM.html). Their tragic love story inspired Maedhros to create his Union, which attacked the Dark Lord during the Nirnaeth Arnoediad - the battle of Unnumbered Tears (kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ar5yf6tz0r-yd6s.html). As a result of the battle, many Men and Elf were made hostages, among them Húrin. In the first episode about Children of Húrin, we will talk about Morgoth's curse and the Rise of Húrin's son Túrin (kzfaq.info/get/bejne/eZ19rbulnbadfIk.html), while the second episode covered the Fall of Nargothrond (kzfaq.info/get/bejne/Z9NgZqljprLecmQ.html). The third episode is going to set up the biggest tragedy in the world created by Tolkien, as Nienor has exited Dor-Lomin and her meeting with Turin is going to happen soon The third episode is going to set up the biggest tragedy in the world created by Tolkien, as Nienor has exited Dor-Lomin and her meeting with Turin is going to happen soon (kzfaq.info/get/bejne/f7NdqbB1s5jbg3U.html). In the fourth and final episode in the mini-series on the Children of Hurin, the tragedy is complete - Turin and Nienor are dead, and so is Glaurung (kzfaq.info/get/bejne/f6upaZidnsnWgZc.html). After their death, the Dark Lord finally released Hurin. His return would only worsen the situation for the free peoples (kzfaq.info/get/bejne/iaqihJydqa6bcpc.html) and they would continue fighting each other for the Silmarils and power, leading to the Second Kinslaying and the Fall of Doriath (kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jdp1n7p5krXSkaM.html). In the aftermath, another great story, that of Tuor started, and with it a New Hope was born (kzfaq.info/get/bejne/a85ymcSiv5fJeYk.html), however his coming to the last great free city - Gondolin, roused jealousy of some of the denizens and the city was betrayed to Morgoth as a result (kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rpuChNJ9l5aYpqs.html), and fell to the Dark Lord.
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@myriadmediamusings 9 ай бұрын

Fine as I was with Arwen in the Fellowship movie, I admit feeling a little bummed at the resulting exclusion of Glorfindel simply because of his history and final stand at Gondolin against the balrog before Mandos gave him the fastpass to resurrection.

@ParleLeVu 9 ай бұрын

Which begs the eternal question: Who is the finest warrior of the Elves? Feanor, Fingolfin or upgraded Glorfindel?

@alacranypistolero 9 ай бұрын

@@ParleLeVu Glorfindel is killing it. So to speak.

@snaz388 9 ай бұрын

@@ParleLeVu Fingolfin was probably the finest warrior, but Feanor more compelling as a character. Glorfindel and Ecthelion are kinda on the same terms in my eyes, both gave their all in defense of their city and people, but would die in their valor, it just happens that Glorfindel was chosen to be reborn.

@DrWickermoon 9 ай бұрын

@@snaz388 I'd have to disagree. Feanor was probably the finest elven warrior, with Fingolfin maybe a close second. His arrogance and temper was Feanor's downfall, but even then, he held his ground against several Balrogs long enough to be rescued (even though in vain)! Balrogs, fallen Maia! Had he fought Morgoth one on one, he would've threatened more than just seven wounds, even if an actual defeat would have still been out of the question ("thus sayeth the Doom of Mandos"). But he might have made Morgoth break the rules of the duel out of fear, and summon Balrogs, for he had always been a coward. That is my opinion, at least. Morgoth was afraid of Fingolfin, but he was terrified of the sheer, burning rage of Feanor.

@snaz388 9 ай бұрын

I'd say you're half right which is why the debate is so enthralling. Feanor's soul literally had a fire in him, and he was bar none, the greatest elf (in terms of intelligence, skill, and will) up until he killed is own people (innocent elves) and arrived in Beleriand. His wisdom turned to vain blindness and he was caught in tunnel vision as well as his sons for a jewel he crafted. Meanwhile FIngolfin stayed strong for his people, led them through a hellish icy journey, and coming to Middle Earth and providing a realm for those he brought as well as men who finally awoke. HIS pride was then undone when he rode alone to Angband and sought his revenge, and fought the DARK LORD a vala with such ferocity he feared his bloodline from thence on. Meanwhile the sons of Feanor proved to be his unsuspecting allies when they later caused the second kinslaying at Doritath for once again a JEWEL. But I still love Feanor as a character because of the points he made regarding the vala.@@DrWickermoon

@patrickb1303 9 ай бұрын

Being a dark lord has really always been about having the right helmet. That’s why Voldemort never had a chance. Bare headed fool.

@DrWickermoon 9 ай бұрын

The "Bare-headed fool" sold it for me. That cracked me up. XD

@origami83 9 ай бұрын

@jefffrye1291 Because its all copied from other fantasy stories? Voldemort's horcruxes are the same as the One Ring, just multiplied by 7 and The dementors are eerily similar to the nazgul just to give you 2 examples. Next to that Voldemort can't even capture a high school or Britain and is stopped by a dopey teenager while Morgoth/Sauron conquered the world on more than 1 occasion and the greatest heroes can't even stop them. I like HP for what it is but Rowling isn't anywhere near the writing skills of Tolkien. Plus the plotholes in HP are driving me crazy sometimes. Its okay to like a thing and still admit something is wrong with it. Like lotr could do with a little more humor imo and the pacing is slow at times. Hp makes me laugh and the story proceeds are a quick pace which i like .

@Bladieblah 9 ай бұрын

@jefffrye1291 There is nothing elitist about the original comment, just a harmless joke

@rikuvakevainen6157 Ай бұрын

Loki agrees.

@KaiHung-wv3ul 9 ай бұрын

The Children of Hurin is the darkest story in the Silmarillion, but the Fall of Gondolin is Morgoth's high point, his moment of ultimate triumph. But although the last bastions in Beleriand have fallen, hope lieth still in the west across the sea, and from the great Houses of Hador and Fingolfin, a new star shall arise....

@PiscatorLager 7 ай бұрын

Chances are that Glorfindel's dagger, which he used in his duel with the Balrog, is indeed the same one that Bilbo found in the troll hoard and later named Sting.

@keyboarddancers7751 9 ай бұрын

If Tolkien had *SOLELY* written the legends of the First Age, he would've probably been recognised as a majestic author of imaginative fiction. In my opinion, he is arguably right up there in the same league as Tolstoy, Goethe and Shakespeare.

@resileaf9501 9 ай бұрын

Does anyone even argue that he isn't a majestic author of imaginative fiction?

@keyboarddancers7751 9 ай бұрын

@@resileaf9501 I believe that there are many who do not hold Tolkien in high regard. IMHO, he has outclassed ALL of the other great mythical legends from around the world whether ancient Greek, Chinese, Indian or European.

@kramhorse 8 ай бұрын

He did solely write them. Christopher just edited.

@keyboarddancers7751 8 ай бұрын

@@kramhorse I meant to say "if all he had ever written were the legends of the First Age..." The man was truly a force of nature!

@play030 5 ай бұрын

George RR Martin is better.

@TiresiasAfricanus 9 ай бұрын

Something so beautiful was never made to last. A movie adaptation one day I pray.

@md_dreamer5380 9 ай бұрын

Prowess of the most powerful eldar at the first age could wound a valar at most and slay maiar at the least. Although in vain at the end, does not lessen the fact they hit above and beyond their weight. Fingolfin burning his very spirit into his cold blade Ringil permanently scarred Morgoth and gave him ptsd of going to the frontlines. Luthein in her enchanting glory driving away Sauron alongside Juan and stealing a Silmaril from the Morgoth himself. Ecthelion defeating Gothmog lord of balrogs and captain of Angbad's forces became a warcry giving ptsd to the orcs with the sight of his blade orcist. Glorfindel as well dueling a Balrog as well to their mutual deaths in defence of the refugees. Earendil, elf Jesus himself bringing down Ancalagon the Black the greatest of all winged dragons.

@Powerhaus88 9 ай бұрын

Earendil was half-elven.

@sageofcaledor8188 9 ай бұрын

Indeed. That was an age of heroes.

@jeffcordova9633 8 ай бұрын

@@sageofcaledor8188loved that title reminds me of a world of ice and fire

@xjankox 9 ай бұрын

While we can argue ad infinitum whether or not Balrogs had wings (they did NOT!), there certainly were no winged dragons in the siege of Gondolin. They were Morgoth’s ultimate secret weapon unleashed during the War of Wrath in the last ditch effort to turn the tide of war, and it nearly succeeded. It is explicitly stated in the Silmarilion that the winged dragons were not seen before. Also, Tour famously fought in the siege with his great axe Dramborleg and slew five balrogs with it.

@ErikGunnarDahlin 9 ай бұрын

Correct on the wings, it really bothered me that the video made such a fundamental fault. Just want to point out that Tuor slaying multiple balrogs is not in every version. For a while balrogs was essentially canon fodder but later on in Tolkiens life he changed is mind. "In the margin my father wrote: 'There should not be supposed more than say 3 or at most 7 ever existed.'" - Morgoth's Ring

@jeremypaillotin9801 9 ай бұрын

I don't see any flying dragons in the video, the dragons are depicted crawling here, albeit with what looks like winged front limbs

@sageofcaledor8188 9 ай бұрын

True. Thanks for pointing it out. And. Wow!

@tdubya75 9 ай бұрын

The depictions of the Balrogs and Dragons don’t bother me but I was bummed to not see Tuor with Dramborleg. It’s one of my top three favorite weapons in Tolkien’s work.

@ivanvukasovic1371 8 ай бұрын

I am yet to find any artwork describing dragons from The Fall of Gondolin: iron serpents coiling over the hills, out of which orcs emerge as if they were worms out of a rotten carcass; and bronze monsters of fiery breath, destroying by stomping. I think that in Tolkien's imagination they weren't just classic dragons, but machinations of metal, flesh and magic, more akin to cyborg tanks than winged reptiles.

@motivatedguy4102 9 ай бұрын

I have watched the Rise of Morgoth video 4 times. The ones following it 3 times each. Finally something to conclude the saga of Gondolin. Keep it up Wzards and Warriors.

@DGordillo123 9 ай бұрын

It's difficult to resist the feeling that all of this really actually happened. Tolkien's talent is unmatched by any mortal.

@mariuss1590 9 ай бұрын

There are many versions of this battle and in one of them, one of the 12 noble houses of Gondolin, managed to push the attackers back from the city, slaying more orcs there than in all the battles since combined, but where then surrounded and killed, and there was a brief civil war with the house of Maeglin and his followers and those of Tuor

@comradekenobi6908 9 ай бұрын

Regardless in the end Gondolin has fallen Millions must kneel before Morgoth

@robk8463 9 ай бұрын

Could you tell me what books I can read for this? Thank you!

@mariuss1590 9 ай бұрын

@@robk8463 well the book Fall of Gondolin and Unfinished Tales

@desmondd1984 9 ай бұрын

@robk8463 Fall of Gondolin if you want a comprehensive review of everything Tolkien wrote on the story. Unfortunately there's no final "definitive" narrative.

@anyoneattheendoftime4932 4 ай бұрын

Love the detail of Turgon being crushed by the weight of the falling donjon of Gondolin, such a great metaphor of him being laid low by his own pride and the "works of his own hands" as Ulmo warned of.

@sageofcaledor8188 9 ай бұрын

And so it ends the final part of one of my favorite stories of the First Age. Gondolin. Let us all have a moment of silence for the brave heroes that fell. From Turgon, the High King of the Noldor who slew orcs beyond number. Ecthelion who slew the most powerful balrog. And last but not least, Glorfindel the last Champion of Light who slew the second mightiest of the Barogs, a being of pure righteousness that he became a personal champion of the Valar, was sent back to help the Free Peoples against Sauron. A moment of silence for them all and those who lost their lives. But also a moment of silence for the hope the survivors carry with them. For it is with that small hope, the smallest light will shine in the dark..................... That was a great episode. Also, Let' 's give props to Tuor for saving his wife and son from Maeglin! Wonderful job! You made some errors. I will not take away from my fellow commenters but it was more info about dragons and Tuor you missed. My complaint is you failed to mention Irial felt like something was off from her cousin and with Tuor's help, created a secret escape route just in case. Remarkable woman Idrial was. Still, it was a wonderful video. I am glad I finally got time to watch it!

@whackamarkwinter5395 9 ай бұрын

It would be awesome to see a series albeit a smaller one about the second age since despite it being "Tolkien's dark age" There is so much there to tell such as Sauron's conquest of Eregion and Eriador. His small campaign against Numenor and of coarse the fall of Numenor. Fingers Crossed As a side note I agree with Christopher Tolkien that one of the biggest grievances is that J.R.R never finished his final draft of the Fall of Gondolin its crazy to think that despite the vast lore of middle earth his legendarium is ultimately incomplete.

@desmondd1984 9 ай бұрын

I would love to see them do the 2nd age too, but compared to the 1st age or War of the Ring, it will necessarily have to be a broader overview. Definitely need a video on the history of Numenor.

@salez9830 4 ай бұрын

It is complete. He finished whole Simlarillion before he even started writing LOTR. It's just that he didn't finish updating it later on.

@vectorstrike 9 ай бұрын

I had completely forgotten about Ecthelion and his pals killing dragons!

@deron2203 9 ай бұрын

Such a tragic end but man war of wrath is coming soon!

@minatodroger7890 9 ай бұрын

Ecthelon was a real one right up there with fingolfin as thr most badass elf

@Matthew_080 9 ай бұрын

I've waited so impatiently for this video to come!!! Thank you all for your hard work!

@shehansenanayaka3046 9 ай бұрын

Brilliant video. I just again watch your videos in this series. Thank you wizards and warriors. We always appreciate your hard work and dedication towards these videos. ❤❤❤

@bvthebalkananarchistmapper5642 9 ай бұрын

Mmmm... I'm pretty sure all the dragons that participated in this battle were non-winged and thus non-flying ones. If I recall correctly, Morgoth only unveiled them for all to see as his last resort to regain the initiative during the War of Wrath - when the forces of the Undying Lands finally came to intervene in Beleriand.

@SamuelViana 9 ай бұрын

True. I was going to pinpoint that also. The winged dragons appeared only at the very end of rhe War of Wrath, being Ancalagon one of them

@desmondd1984 9 ай бұрын

Correct. These dragons would have been wingless.

@skjold224 9 ай бұрын

True. But these WaW videoes are full of errors, so...meh

@desmondd1984 9 ай бұрын

@@skjold224 There are errors but not enough to take me out of it, I still enjoy the Tolkien stuff and hope they continue.

@samanyupalthi 9 ай бұрын

Yeah there is no mention of worms and drakes of metal and hollowed ones, through which orcs poured out! Nor there is mention of the worms that threw down the main gate and goblins climbed on them and poured into the city! This is a very bad portrayal of this battle, i expected more from them after their account of the battle for the fords of isen and minas tirith!

@Charlie.a 9 ай бұрын

Great job thank you for all your hard work.

@gorvarhadgarson5227 9 ай бұрын

Does every Balrog kill involve falling from a great height?

@outrider44 9 ай бұрын

Pretty much, yes 😂

@Enerdhil 9 ай бұрын

Only the ones we know of.😅

@theawesomeman9821 9 ай бұрын

This was both fascinating but sad to watch a civilization collapse

@kramhorse 8 ай бұрын

Something you leave out is Idril's actions during the battle, gathering refugees with her small band and sending them to her secret escape route.That she fought against Maeglin "like a tigress" until Tuor arrived.

@epicazeroth 9 ай бұрын

Y'all it's getting serious now. Can't wait for the next few episodes. Also minor note, the dragons at Gondolin were non-winged.

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@TheDannyDeez 9 ай бұрын

I always wonder why Ecthelion was not reembodied by the Valar and Glorfindel yes... Both their sacrifices being almost identical and selfless

@resileaf9501 9 ай бұрын

Goddamn, talk about one hell of a nutshot on Gothmog. Ecthelion is mercyless.

@ItsATrappProductions 9 ай бұрын

I always look forward to these episodes more than any other series. Love all of the work that you guys do, but these tales about the history of Middle Earth are especially enthralling to me!

@boldbearings 9 ай бұрын

Fantastic. ♥ W&W Team knocking it out everytime. Anything in mind for the Goblin Wars, where Orcist and Glamdring were distinguished?? 😁

@marciofelipejustino2563 9 ай бұрын

FALL OF GONDOLIN MY FAVORITY TOLKIEN COUNTY TUOR,GLORFINDEL VS BALROG❤🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

@denniscleary7580 9 ай бұрын

Was definitely looking forward to this 😊👍

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@Tar-Elenion 9 ай бұрын

The story of the Fall of Gondolin does not have Lungorthin in it, nor is Glorfindel said to slay him. Lungorthin only appears in an early version of the Children of Hurin story (see HoMe 3, Lays of Beleriand).

@Enerdhil 9 ай бұрын

Thanks for the reference. I had never heard of that Balrogs before. I suppose if you include all the Balrogs in the old stories, they would number in the hundreds, instead of fewer than ten.

@Tar-Elenion 9 ай бұрын

@@Enerdhil At least a thousand: "There came afresh a hundred thousand Orcs and a thousand Balrogs..." SoMe, Earliest Annals of Beleriand, Year 172 "There came wolves and serpents, and there came Balrogs one thousand..." Lost Road, Quenta Silmarillion, ch. 16

@Enerdhil 9 ай бұрын

@@Tar-Elenion Yes. Tolkien realized that Balrogs lose their power the more of them there are as well as the more that can be killed. Tuor killing four Balrogs is comical and likely impossible.

@Tar-Elenion 9 ай бұрын

@@Enerdhil Well, four of what balrogs later became, at least, would be impossible...

@Enerdhil 9 ай бұрын

@@Tar-Elenion Maybe this channel should pay you to help them get the lore right. In my opinion, you are a Tolkien encyclopedia.😁👍 please keep feeding us those references.🙏

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@danielsantiagourtado3430 9 ай бұрын

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@vladionescudimancea2069 9 ай бұрын

As a re-incarnation of one of the soldiers I can testify that these events are accurate.

@user-sd7ri9fy4i 6 ай бұрын

Nice work dude thanks

@chrismartindale7840 9 ай бұрын

I wonder is Morgoth ever wondered, even if for a moment, that things weren't going as swimmingly as he thought. The destruction of Gondolin came at a high cost seeing as he lost 2 Balrogs. Orcs are a dime a dozen. Balrogs not so much.

@richardthomas9497 9 ай бұрын

While the Fall of Gondolin was Morgoth's highpoint, the melding of the refugees of Doriath and Gondolin at the Mouths of Sirion, would create a union setting the seeds for Morgoth's downfall. It should be noted that Celegorm, Caranthir and Curufin were killed in the Second Kinslaying in Menegroth, Doriath. The only surviving Sons of Fëanor at this point were Maedhros, Maglor, and the twins Amrod and Amras. Once again, I recommend using anime/manga fantasy and science-fiction worlds for future lore videos.

@jonbaxter2254 8 ай бұрын

How a mere mortal stood agaisnt a Balrog. Such bravery.

@henrymichaelson7208 9 ай бұрын

Finally!! 🎉

@DrSeuss-sf3cn 9 ай бұрын

Love it, keep it up 👍

@HGMzzzsss 9 ай бұрын

Amazing! Thank you for this

@keithbperrin9633 9 ай бұрын

Great job..awesome job Keep up the good work

@Parsley-pr9sv 3 ай бұрын

I think Gondoland represents imaginal line I think about it it was expected to be a stall word against the fence, but fell suddenly and completely

@dwalker420 9 ай бұрын

I love your videos, Thank You. 🙏

@andreas956 8 ай бұрын

This should have been longer! With more details regarding each house of gondolin. Their strengths and so on.

@Airestotle09 9 ай бұрын

1st age was the best. Hopefully someday we can get a proper tv series covering it someday. The characters and battles are just so epic

@peterh2828 9 ай бұрын

I have tears in my eyes....so beautiful! 🙂

@WhoIsCalli 9 ай бұрын

What an epic part of the legendariam. Amazing 🧝‍♂️

@ilejovcevski79 9 ай бұрын

Forgive me if i'm wrong, but weren't the Glaurung's kin wingless? The first winged dragons had not came to be, or at least see action, till the War of Wrath...

@Tar-Elenion 9 ай бұрын

Correct.

@UmpaLumpa-zg9mn 9 ай бұрын

Yep they should have been wingless . Pretty cool animations though

@Enerdhil 9 ай бұрын

The Balrogs didn't have wings either.😂😆🤣

@ilejovcevski79 9 ай бұрын

@@Enerdhil at least there's a case to be made on that topic.... the dragons of this age though, they were quite specifically described as wingless. Or rather, the dragons that came after them were specifically described as the first of the winged ones 😄

@Enerdhil 9 ай бұрын

@@ilejovcevski79 I have heard both sides. Steven of The Red Book convinced me that they DON'T have wings.

@samwill7259 9 ай бұрын

Gotta wonder why Morgoth bothers when he knows for a FACT that he lives in a world controlled by a benevolent, omniscient, interventionist god. This story was written the moment it began and Morgoth's end is a long trail of him digging his own grave

@daisysmith9149 5 ай бұрын

I wish they would make these epics into shows or movies

@Marcusmanca 9 ай бұрын

2 dragons AND 3 balrogs ... damn son

@MCHammer79 3 ай бұрын

That’s what I’m sayin

@sourabhmayekar3354 9 ай бұрын

Awesome

@Kees247 9 ай бұрын

Highlights of my youth, thank you.

@kramhorse 8 ай бұрын

One thing to point out is the winged dragons first appeared at the end of the war of wrath.

@ivanvukasovic1371 8 ай бұрын

Just came hear after reading The Fall of Gondolin, such an epic battle, my favorite part was the description of the hosts of the Noldor. As much as people meme Tolkien for his vast descriptions, I often enjoy them a lot, especially the descriptions of armies and armaments. Thank you, Kings and Ge-, I mean, Wizards and Warriors!😅

@c.antoniojohnson7114 8 ай бұрын

Vast and detailed descriptions are awesome, only a idiot wouldn't understand. Which a lot of people are.

@ivanvukasovic1371 8 ай бұрын

@@c.antoniojohnson7114 frankly, I'm not too keen on reading through first 100 pages of LOTR if I'm being honest, but armies and battles are a different breed. Read Silmarillion in like 2 weeks, wasn't a chore at all. I did have like 7 tabs opened: Elven and Men's family trees, a map of Valinor, Beleriand and Middle earth, a general timeline of the first age, and Tolkien Gateway as well. It was an immersive read, read it in my first language, will soon hopefully do it again in English.

@AX50K 9 ай бұрын

Really enjoying the first age content, and completely unrelated please at some point cover the redrising series, no animation to films are out for it but it would really lend itself to Ur semi historical and animated approach

@mennorach 9 ай бұрын

Good video, as always, but I'm very confused. Why is Morgoth there in the attacking army's back? The duel with Fingolfin robbed the dark lord of the possibility of ever commanding an army in the field. He was confined to his dark fortress with Gothmog as the commander of his armies. Also, the dragons did not have wings yet, but the presence of Morgoth at the gates of Gondolin bothers me more. Any particular reason for showing him there?

@fryandikalarung7805 9 ай бұрын

The dragons should be wingless at this point the winged one first appearance is at the war of wrath

@LordVader1094 2 ай бұрын

8:17 It's a mistake to show dragons with wings at Gondolin. The winged dragons premiered during the War of Wrath.

@kanahjohnson509 9 ай бұрын

What’s the battle theme music?

@theawesomeman9821 9 ай бұрын

Please make videos on the Halo franchise!

@cheekoandtheman 5 ай бұрын

The map insinuates that Morgoth was at this battle , I’m pretty sure he was not

@hellasdragon6281 9 ай бұрын

i was expecting more details about the great siege and fall of gondolin..

@goryanadazaghal1206 9 ай бұрын

where is the Portrait of Maglor, i couldn't see him when you showed the sons of Feanor.

@LECityLECLEC 9 ай бұрын

it sounds like ecthelion is my man, dude used jiujitsu and a secret weapon to rek gothmog

@LECityLECLEC 9 ай бұрын

I dont see Turgon as arrogoant, what was he supposed to do - build boats and flee to Valinor?

@stefandebeer9375 9 ай бұрын

Never knew the name of the Balrog that killed Glorfindel or the name of the Drake that was present at Gondolin or how Echelion led the defense of the city outside the walls or that Tuor tried to attack Gothmog. From which book did these specific bits of info come from?🤔

@Tar-Elenion 9 ай бұрын

The name _Lungorthin_ is from Lays of Beleriand (History of Middle-earth III). There is nothing about Glorfindel slaying him. The name was not even invented when Fall of Gondolin was written. The writers of the video made that up for some reason. Ecthelion, in the Fall of Gondolin story the video seems to be drawing from did not lead a defence outside the city, rather he was held in reserve. They seem to be confusing Ecthelion with Rog, who lead a sortie on a broken gate, drove the bad guys back, then got cut off. But none seem to have started outside the city. They video also seems to mistake an elvish word for dragons as the name of a dragon. In the event, they seem to have (inaccurately) drawn material from Book of Lost Tales 2, Fall of Gondolin).

@stefandebeer9375 9 ай бұрын

@@Tar-Elenion Could it be from the Nature of ME book? The "new" info? I have a copy, but not with me presently...

@Tar-Elenion 9 ай бұрын

@@stefandebeer9375 No. Nature of Middle-earth does not go into the Fall of Gondolin. The references to Gondolin mainly deal with the comparative ages of Idril and Tuor, and some linguistic and descriptive items. The video writers could have been relying on the book The Fall of Gondolin, rather than BoLT 2, but the same things I said in my initial prior response apply (as FoG repeats that material).

@stefandebeer9375 9 ай бұрын

@@Tar-Elenion but could some of the info be canon even if the FoG story from the FoG book isn't complete and the older versions non-canon?

@Tar-Elenion 9 ай бұрын

@@stefandebeer9375 I don't know what you mean by 'canon'. I'm just saying that the video got a number of the details you asked about wrong. For more information read either of the books I cited.

@LECityLECLEC 9 ай бұрын

balrogs riding dragons loool as terran dropships

@siechamontillado 9 ай бұрын

When is the Fraggle Rock lore video coming out?

@-JA- 9 ай бұрын

🙂👍

@glen9593 9 ай бұрын

Do we really need a 2 minute ad?

@chrisstorrer 9 ай бұрын

I count two Glorfindels.

@ryancruz1876 7 ай бұрын

Same character (most likely) according to Tolkien’s late conceptions.

@ironboley 6 ай бұрын

This is Completely inaccurate. Morgoth was never there, Suran and his lieutenant would've have been enough. 2nd They didnt fight outside the city. Only Rogg did and when they made their final stand.

@matts7125 9 ай бұрын

Lol so the only way to defeat a balrog is to throw it and itself into a hole?

@illidangraham2725 9 ай бұрын

I love your videos and content but its not very accurate. Also skipping some really cool details like the fall of the tower with Turgon and how the Balrogs rode on the backs of those dragons. You need to hire someone who has rewlly read the books to check this not just read the wiki

@Crafty_Spirit 8 ай бұрын

I checked the comment section for this... I agree. This video makes it seem as if Turgon fell by the hands of orcs :S

@Fuzzypotato2 9 ай бұрын

Can we get a new voice actor?

@robertc8425 9 ай бұрын

Fun fact, Maeglin fell as his father before him from the same place and almost from the same cause, darknes of heart and vain glory. Moral of the story, NEVER GET A DARK HAIRED ELF WHIT THE FAIR HAIRED ELVES (this sound s racist af) :)

@gigakvachakhia4777 9 ай бұрын

fnally

@LECityLECLEC 9 ай бұрын

tbh morgoth sounds like a noob playing total war on easy

@ardaea2529 9 ай бұрын

Video looks gorgeous as always but content like this needs an expert to cover. This mixes up versions quite a bit and gets some fundamental stuff wrong. You should get someone like Red Book to write this stuff. His knowledge and your animation would be a good partnership!!

@Enerdhil 9 ай бұрын

I don't think Steven would be interested in such a collaboration.

@specialnewb9821 8 ай бұрын

It's not that elves are perfect in Tolkien it's just by the third age all arrogant foolish traitorous petty ones have gotten themselves killed and been good examples of what not to do to the survivors.

@Enerdhil 9 ай бұрын

These videos are very well put together, but I think you guys need to get the Lore right. Those Dragons didn't have wings, nor did Balrogs. If Balrogs had wings they wouldn't fall to their death. I don't think any fighting occurred outside of the city walls. That would have been a waste of Elven warriors. Also, you should mention that Morgoth released Hurin, who stood at the base of the mountains that surrounded the City. That is how Morgoth's orcs narrowed their search and were able to capture Maeglin.

@ardaea2529 9 ай бұрын

Seems that the more popular a channel is, the more likely they are to get the information wrong for some reason. These guys seem like another channel of movie fans deciding to cover book material without knowing a lot about it. Similar to channels like Broken Sword.

@Enerdhil 9 ай бұрын

@@ardaea2529 The Broken Sword is a good example of a channel that uses Tolkien's writings as a means to avoid getting a real job. Jake and James should stick to Power Rangers and Anime.