It should of been the free legendary when the set realsed

It should be a basic card. So that new players can use it straight away. Right now, Whiz will only be useful for 2 years. Hence, useless in Wild due to playing only Standard decks.

That's a good idea. If they made whizbang a hero, it would prevent it to rotate. You could purchase it like any other hero or complete the puzzles to gain him. The only drawback I can think of is the grinding to complete the puzzles off of youtube videos. But hey I guess its happening right now anyway soo.. good idea.

Dude, i thought about this too, if he'd rotate to classic it'd be really neat to try out some nee decks, redit do your job, i trust you guys.

If the new players get packs and generous rewards they won't consider buying packs so less money for blizz

Salterino Kripperino or it will make it seem like the decks they want to play aren't as far away and buy more/the same amount of packs.

@@hermeticascetic also true

Salterino Kripperino well not really, around 30-40 free packs for new players just encourages them playing, and taking interest in actually purchasing more packs to experiment with all kinds of different decks/combos. The important part is to not give them all for free, but instead up the rewards for tutorial quests(around 4-5 packs each)/adventure mode/practice mode(a pack for every boss/class beaten)

@@ponpo185 that is not true games like gwent that give way more packs are doing fine

I did that too :D

Same! I guess I misread the spell to do 10 dmg to all characters 10 times which made it a lot harder. Feel a bit silly watching this but it was a fun extra challenge anyway.

Shit, I'm not alone xD

thats the true mirror matchup i was looking for :)

I thought it was a board clear puzzle lol.

@Black Ice So you suggest that if Blizzard released new content for, say, for WoW (or whatever multiplayer game), that was a ten-hour dungeon, and in the end the only reward was one crappy cosmetic item, then WoW players would just be "Oh well, no reward but at least I had the experience"

Black Ice If this was a pay up front get everything game then sure, no reward is acceptable. But this is a f2p game and in a f2p game time is literally a currency that the developers try to balance in a way to get you to spend money. You could've laddered for 10 hours over say 2 or 3 days and got 3 packs worth of gold, but you didn't you literally reduced your rewards by playing the single player puzzle mode, wether or not you had fun is honestly close to irrelevant because in any case it gets you further away from completing your collection. The mode should at least be as rewarding as laddering, especially since let's be honest laddering is not very rewarding in the slightest.

Given some of the other responses to this comment, I think it's pretty obvious that this is quite a difficult question of game psychology, but essentially I'd answer that the reward is by definition part of the experience. For most players, the satisfying loop is encounter problem, overcome problem, get reward. It has a Darwinian level of satisfaction to it, we are "designed" to solve problems and get rewards for them. So the reward is an integral part of the experience for a lot of players. If you're not one of those players then that's totally fine, people should play the games they enjoy, that's the point. But I also think it's quite evident that the design philosophy expected from a game that rewards you for success is that it is designed to appeal to people that like to be rewarded for success. I guess essentially what I'm saying is, this is inconsistent with previous design philosophy in a way that doesn't seem to benefit the player base.

Black Ice Dude this is like the only really challenging thing in hearthstone and it is even less rewarding than any other content. Games are usually designed to reward you for your effort and time. Especially f2p games, but hearthstone doesn't. If this was any other game i could maybe agree with you, but at this point i don't feel like blizzard wants me to play their game, the only fun thing i've done in the last couple of months was also the one thing that didn't reward me. This is no way to run a game chuck full of collectible things, especially if those things (cards) are needed in large quantities to enjoy 90% of the games "content".

I mean, at the end of the day, the only difference in these two ways of looking at it is that one sees the pellet as game reward while the other sees it as "fun". I'd argue that since fun is subjective, a significant portion of players will see reward as part of the fun. A concept which is reinforced by the rest of the game design. You do well, you get rewarded. This is common across the rest of the game. Like I said, it's a move which is inconsistent with the rest of the game design, which is why I have an issue with it. If you design a game to give rewards based on success, then your player base is going to largely consist of people that like to be rewarded for their success. If suddenly an expansion was released that turned hearthstone into an FPS, players would be unsatisfied because they were there for a card game.

HS is a good game to watch but not to play.

I just recently move from shadowverse to hearthstone because of the puzzle labs and whizbang I dusted all of my other card just to craft whizbang and with this expansion hearthstone is probably the best for new player that are an experienced tcg player

I wish you good luck with your new full-time job if you want to climb up to legend with Whizbang.

I would get enough gold to craft a decent rank before I reach rank 15

@@guaplei1 just craft whizbang if rank 15 is your goal

yeah that would have been a better reward

I agree, this is a stellar idea. I was lucky enough to get my Wizbang as the guaranteed first ten pack legendary but I still wish everyone got it without having to compromise their actual decks by spending 1600 on it. Reward for completing the puzzles would be the perfect way, the puzzles teach people to play better and the reward would be a tutorial card that lets them try put the new decks

Blizzard specified that they don't want people to be forced to play every mode, if Whizbang was the reward people would feel forced to play in order not to miss out a legendary

@@natan8109 why do people still quote this bullshit? Ofc they say this in order to explain that they will never give out free content (which is very disgusting)

Rinaldo Sparachiodi Well still... a card back? Who cares? Nonetheless I even enjoyed the Lich King adventure more than this!

him ?

Whizbangarino the Wonderfulerino Kripperino do you have a recipe for a spicy remoulade?

You are too wonderful to be a boss in a puzzle lab

Except for One Night In -Development- Karazhan, which was annoying to play through and gave you unbalanced crap as a reward.

Jesse Raimirez if you glimpse at your deck you see it but i can understand where u're coming from

There could be a cheeky way to do it. Adding a button to show your hand to your opponent. At the end of the game you can show them what you have, which would "turn the cards over" so that you'd see the back and your opponent would see the front.

But your opponent sees your cardback the whole time, and that is the point.

@@yaerius I just want an option where like if you hold a card and right click it does a little trick and maybe has a special effect for the solo adventure card backs since it's not that big of a reward in the first place

Really need it this time

Yeah me too

Thank you

I usually just skip myself but this time I needed you Good work sir

But how are they going to make enough profit then, huh? You really think they haven't considered giving more rewards?

They're already making a SHIT TON of profit. Looking less like a bunch of greedy assholes could benefit them in the long run.

Heh, I assume you're new to Hearthstone, or Kripp's content. Kripp, as well as other notable streamers, have talked about the rewards and lack thereof for years. Blizzard's response has been making the game more and more expensive to play each year, then throwing a small bone to the community and considering itself generous. Blizzard doesn't give a shit about the players, and as long as people keep shoving money at them, and defending their unhinged greed like the genius above, they have no need to change

Or 1 pack at the end of each puzzle line, for a total of 4, and the card back for beating Dr. Boom's line Orrrr, 3 packs at the end of each line!? :D

They did that with dungeon run and people absolutely hated it. You can't please this community.

@@klaidaz01 I agree that you can't please the community. But what do you mean they did with dungeon run? it was the same Thing: No card Packs, just the card back if you Finish With all 9 classes.

My mistake, I meant monster hunt. You got a pack for 10 wins with every class and people hated it.

@@klaidaz01 are you Sure about that? There are only 8 bosses per Hunt. And I'm pretty Sure you didn't get anything besides the card back. You mean Knights of the Frozen throne? There you got Packs. But I Think the Problem With that was that it was way harder than the other Adventures.

Scott Fillinger but this expansion was the best for new player

@@guaplei1 that's not saying very much

Patrick Jolly ? I didn't even say anything

ju hae this expansion has the best new player experience

ju hae not maiev anymore idk about lunara

I won by getting 110 hp from kun. 3 ways so far.

@@ahmedtaleb6803 I thought at first that's the solution but couldn't perform it xD

I know that feel bro...

If thts not a joke.. U totally should

Alex Cunningham and there are game that still doing that like duelist