How Good Is That Knight Really?

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@BillGraper
@BillGraper 4 ай бұрын
When a knight puts you in check, you have to move your king to the SAME color square he's already on. That makes the knight have to move twice to check you again.
@JesterLegend4life
@JesterLegend4life 4 ай бұрын
You got it wrong, when a knight puts you in check, you should move your king to the colored square the knight is NOT on. Because, if the knight is on black square, he can only move to a white square. If a knight puts you in check, and suppose the knight is on white, that means your king is on black. So if you move the king to a white square the knight will be able to move to a black square, and check you. So, what you should do is move your king to the opposite colored square, such that when the white moves to a black square, your king is already on a black square, and the knight can't check you in 1 move.
@benjaminheueisen2943
@benjaminheueisen2943 4 ай бұрын
​@@JesterLegend4lifeNo he's got it right. If your king is on white, the knight has to be on a black space to check you. If you move to another white space, the knight can't move from a black space to a black space and check you again.
@andavocado
@andavocado 4 ай бұрын
​@@JesterLegend4lifeMoving the king to the color that the knight isn't on, is the same thing as staying on the same color that the king was already on.
@danielj.8876
@danielj.8876 4 ай бұрын
​@@JesterLegend4lifeInteresting conversation that came about because of a misunderstanding of who Bill was referring to when he wrote 'the color "he" is already on'. He probably meant the king but thanks for the clarification for people who might thought aswell he meant the knight. To add something to the conversation, while the general idea is right, the best square to escape to is actually on the same color as the knight is on but diagonally two squares apart, so there's one empty square in between. That makes the knight take three moves to attack you again. Though in some situations you can't go there so the opposite color will still be the better option than the other same color squares.
@BillGraper
@BillGraper 4 ай бұрын
@@danielj.8876 Yep! I meant the same color the king is on. If you're in check, and your king is on white, move the king to another white square.
@jovindsouza3407
@jovindsouza3407 4 ай бұрын
And that's why Knights are considered to be the trickiest piece on the board at any point. I've seen and played games where a single well placed knight can blockade entire armies of pieces and pawns all by itself.
@ayatoshintaro7565
@ayatoshintaro7565 4 ай бұрын
Hate the knight I got multiple games where I'm up by a piece or 2 and end up being screwed by a knight
@WafleEnterprises
@WafleEnterprises 4 ай бұрын
It’s because when we play chess, we are usually looking at the “line of sight” threats, like we know how all the pieces attack and our brains can easily process how to block the attack effectively. But with a knight it’s different, it targets up to 8 spots at a time and it’s a positional attack, not line of sight. You can preemptively block a knight from setting up in a spot you don’t want it, but once a knight is already attacking one or more of your pieces, you have to deal with that threat differently than every other piece on the board. Our brains aren’t built for that thinking as easily, you can train it to see it like the pros do but that’s a lifetime of headache.
@pokepress
@pokepress 4 ай бұрын
@@WafleEnterprisesExactly. It’s easy to see where it can go on its next move, but it becomes incredibly complex after that point.
@victorfinberg8595
@victorfinberg8595 4 ай бұрын
2:00 i love how stockfish is saying that all your moves are bad. i suppose, to stockfish, everything a human does is "bad"
@ragingflasker14
@ragingflasker14 4 ай бұрын
1 year anniversary of watching this guys daily videos 🎉🎉
@nishusaif6085
@nishusaif6085 4 ай бұрын
TRUE!
@yrlic
@yrlic 4 ай бұрын
Nelson exhibits a true love for the game.
@sol_mental
@sol_mental 4 ай бұрын
Nelson I'm gonna level with you, I ever only got like two or three of your puzzles right, I don't even try them anymore, I just sit and let you teach me how it's done hehe
@i.g.l.z.9215
@i.g.l.z.9215 4 ай бұрын
Both fun and helpful, thank you for sharing this one!
@koen5396
@koen5396 4 ай бұрын
Childhood: Dora: “Where is the red tree?” Adulthood: Nelson: “If you’d like to pause, what is the best move for white here?”
@alanfisher50
@alanfisher50 4 ай бұрын
A Sunday treat. Thanks Nelson.
@vtgrphy3907
@vtgrphy3907 4 ай бұрын
I would have push the middle Pawn to lure their Knight and King over. Hoping to trade my Pawn for their Knight. Now their King is in the middle. Push any Pawn, when their King goes for it, push the other Pawn because their King is too far to stop it.
@visibletoallusersonyoutube5928
@visibletoallusersonyoutube5928 4 ай бұрын
Probably a garbage idea because I agree with you.
@Mal1234567
@Mal1234567 4 ай бұрын
Is that called the Oh No My Knight gambit?
@alejandrosalazar94
@alejandrosalazar94 4 ай бұрын
its the alien gambit
@Mal1234567
@Mal1234567 4 ай бұрын
@@alejandrosalazar94 How so?
@NJDJ1986
@NJDJ1986 4 ай бұрын
ive seen that before, last 3 pawns vs a lone knight but somehow 3 pawns won because one of them is about to Queen, but in Nelson's case, it ended up a stalemate! GGs!
@dragoncarver287
@dragoncarver287 3 ай бұрын
Early on when the black king was out with a white pawn in front of it. The pawn was attacking the black knight. IF you moved the knight, the pawn is now the black king's shield. It isn't going anywhere! I have done that before. Using opponents pawns as my own shield. Until it's removed it's like a big Rock in the middle of the road.
@Ggdivhjkjl
@Ggdivhjkjl 4 ай бұрын
Congratulations on your win!
@sumathiramesh4469
@sumathiramesh4469 4 ай бұрын
Hey Nelson Do you mind telling me in the next video what chess puzzle book you would recommend for any rating
@awang_ir
@awang_ir 4 ай бұрын
Knight moves are always fascinating to a patzer like me
@msjoanofthearc
@msjoanofthearc 4 ай бұрын
Happy New Year and Merry Christmas!
@bobhicks8404
@bobhicks8404 4 ай бұрын
I miss your speedruns
@BoylenInk
@BoylenInk 4 ай бұрын
Very interesting!
@stanimir5F
@stanimir5F 4 ай бұрын
The time control has been one of the most unclear things in chess to me. The obvious scenario when there are still enough pieces on both sides then it's clear. Whoever runs out of time loses. But then there are some scenarios in which that is not the case. For example in this game even though it is theoretical draw you won because you technically have enough material to win the game. But if it was the other way around it would have been a draw since the black can't checkmate you. So I have been wonder about other theoretical draws and how they would be judged in case of timer runs out for one of the players. Like for example: 1) two knights and king vs lone king - obviously you can't force a checkmate but if the defender makes a mistake there is configuration of the pieces in which you can checkmate. So what the outcome would be then? 2) king + different color bishops - again super clear draw but then again it is theoretically possible to win the game if one of the kings is in the corner boxed by opponent's king and his own bishop while attacked by the opponent bishop 3) king + knight or bishop vs king and an edge pawn - we all know that king + bishop/knight vs lone king is theoretically impossible to win thus a draw but the edge pawn can work in favor of the attacker so again checkmate is possible The list can go on and on I think you get the idea. But I wonder is there a place where any kind of these cases (draws) are described what would happen if the timer runs out?
@visibletoallusersonyoutube5928
@visibletoallusersonyoutube5928 4 ай бұрын
Lichess handles win conditions, draws ect better.
@ChaoticNightmares1
@ChaoticNightmares1 4 ай бұрын
I didn't realize he just uploaded this but epic video
@danielshapiro2472
@danielshapiro2472 4 ай бұрын
You should try the alien gambit! You trade the knight for that same pawn and there's a bunch of tricky traps you can do after. Look up Witty Alien
@Trizzer89
@Trizzer89 4 ай бұрын
When in doubt, push the pawn. The king was already boxing out the knight
@SSurikkiller
@SSurikkiller 4 ай бұрын
Stockfish is wild sometimes. Nice game
@danielyuan9862
@danielyuan9862 4 ай бұрын
At 1:42, surely you meant when you're behind. I feel like that's an error that should be addressed in some way.
@ChessVibesOfficial
@ChessVibesOfficial 4 ай бұрын
Yes good catch 👍
@roblodocus2539
@roblodocus2539 4 ай бұрын
From the thumbnail I really thought that was a puzzle haha. Amazing endgame though!
@AidenHardy596
@AidenHardy596 4 ай бұрын
I just love knights 🥰
@Player-df7ny
@Player-df7ny 4 ай бұрын
thats a bit funny cause it contradicts what you said previously about knights being bad at stopping flank pawns
@pineapplesareyummy6352
@pineapplesareyummy6352 4 ай бұрын
Very nice end game! But the conclusion is that the position you showed is completely winning for white (though still has to be careful), which is what I had thought.
@christopherwellman2364
@christopherwellman2364 4 ай бұрын
It was a winning position for white. He should have won.
@aaronbreider4788
@aaronbreider4788 4 ай бұрын
Did you/he move over to another platform? I used to see a few videos a day and now it's less. Hope your health is good.
@mythbusters866
@mythbusters866 4 ай бұрын
8:52 What? Kd6 is better move like Kc5?
@Lovuschka
@Lovuschka 4 ай бұрын
Original study inspired by your game: wKc3 Pa3 d3 g3 - bKf5 Nd6. White to move and win. S. Hornecker, Chess Problems & Studies Discord, 8 January 2024 (local time)
@voraciousreader5473
@voraciousreader5473 4 ай бұрын
Yeah, Kc6, keep the knight away and push the a pawn. Now, would I have found that with less than a minute on the clock against a similar opponent? 50/50 is my bet Two things that help me win, or at least not lose, these endgames in time trouble, are having a simple plan and denying the opponent's counterplay. Viceversa, when you're behind you want to make it messy for the opponent. No victory tastes quite like a dirty flag in a losing position against a higher rated opponent 😏
@jonathancauley5345
@jonathancauley5345 4 ай бұрын
Wow! This was so crazy but yep, that’s how that 1 piece works :)
@DiamondWolfX
@DiamondWolfX 4 ай бұрын
11:48 Wouldn't Ka7 force black to let you out?
@user-gx8du1te4y
@user-gx8du1te4y 4 ай бұрын
Thats still a draw after Kc8, Kb6 and Kb8 blockading the pawn and camping in the corner
@akubukanpfyro
@akubukanpfyro 4 ай бұрын
10:10 if white king go to b5 at this time, will white win?
@farouqbaiti4315
@farouqbaiti4315 4 ай бұрын
I feel bad for your opponent. I can say that he didn't deserve the loses. He played very well.
@zachariastsampasidis8880
@zachariastsampasidis8880 4 ай бұрын
I would say that giving the piece back the way he did it discredits this statement. Granted, its blitz 3 mins
@farouqbaiti4315
@farouqbaiti4315 4 ай бұрын
If that was a Rapid Game,he could have got a draw.
@tank8660
@tank8660 4 ай бұрын
I actually encountered a skinwalker the vid is on my channel 😥😥😥 almost died
@mythbusters866
@mythbusters866 4 ай бұрын
7:31 a4 is better move like Kc6
@danielyuan9862
@danielyuan9862 4 ай бұрын
I don't think so. a4 is more natural to play, but Kc6 does a lot of things at the same time, and one of includes stopping black from moving towards the pawn, so it must be played immediately. a4 can always be played later.
@mythbusters866
@mythbusters866 4 ай бұрын
@@danielyuan9862 Nalimov say a4 win two moves faster like Kc6
@mythbusters866
@mythbusters866 4 ай бұрын
@@danielyuan9862 a4 win 22 Kc6 win 24
@mythbusters866
@mythbusters866 4 ай бұрын
@@danielyuan9862 idea is a4 Nd5 a5 Nc7+ Kc6 Na6 Kb6 Nb8 a6 Nxa6 Kxa6 easy win
@fantomghost6213
@fantomghost6213 4 ай бұрын
Interesting
@sakerberg4512
@sakerberg4512 4 ай бұрын
:D
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