How Good Is The New B-21 Raider Compared To B-2 & B-1 Bombers? (WarGames 94) | DCS

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@shackvan
@shackvan Жыл бұрын
Thing to remember; To higher frequency fighter radars the B-2's advantage over a raptor my have diminished with technology but the B-2 was built to have broadband stealth, The blended body and lack of protruding flight surfaces means that the B-2 (and raider) will always have an advantage against long range early warning radars, which are typically lower frequency and can use features like the raptors vertical stab's or elevators to produce usable signal returns. TLDR Raptor optimized against the airborne radars it will generally face, B-2/B-21 stealth against as many threats as possible inc early warning radar to allow deep penetration attacks.
@Gabriel_McMillan
@Gabriel_McMillan Жыл бұрын
I concur. Also, the Ceramic RAM is supposed to not only have much lower maintenance and operation costs, but is also said to absorb considerably more radar energy than the old coatings. See Alex Hollings video: "The biggest leap in stealth tech since the F-117".
@jtjames79
@jtjames79 Жыл бұрын
The US has recently shut down a project using ITAR, that can turn a consumer wireless router into a passive radar. Software radios have already made stealth entirely obsolete. People already have root on Starlink Terminals. Those terminals are advanced phased array radar being used as the technology for telecommunication. The active tracking SpaceX is doing is better than anything the military has publicly. "Everything is slow to phased array." --Elon musk And AI tracking is just now coming online. There's a vast amount of data that gets thrown away as noise in traditional radar systems. We can now get the data that is hypothetically in the signal that is outside the capability of Fourier transforms. Instead of looking for things in the sky you just look for their shadows. Back when the government shutdown distribution of encryption, all it did was move the technology to Europe. Us Linux users just used 'apt-get update install' easy peasy. You might have the radar return cross-section of a pigeon, but my computer knows pigeons don't fly at 500 miles an hour, and can track all the birds, since I can do the calculations off site on a really big computer in close enough to real time.
@nikoc8968
@nikoc8968 Жыл бұрын
@@jtjames79 tracking is one thing; guiding a missile to the target before youve been shot down or hit with an anti-radiation missile is another.
@jtjames79
@jtjames79 Жыл бұрын
@@nikoc8968 Classic cut and paste that doesn't address anything I said. You can easily have redundant tracking technologies, optical, infrared, lidar, multi spectrum active and passive software defined radar, etc. For about a 1k of off the shelf parts that fits in a small shoebox including all the computer bits needed and batteries. The paradigm of tracking and guidance being treated like different boxes is an obsolete anachronism. It's not even wrong. Do you even NeRF bro?
@Gabriel_McMillan
@Gabriel_McMillan Жыл бұрын
@@jtjames79 Ok, so all China has to do to shoot down the B-21 is achieve command of space before they attempt to achieve air superiority around their fleet. Sounds easier said than done, doesn't it? You are actually making an argument in favor of stealth. We have Starlink. We have that level of satellite and AI surveillance. No one else does. So we may be able to see the J-20s, but this just makes it easier to guide the B-21 around enemy AWACS, ship-borne radars, and fighters, does it not? You don't imagine we would allow the Chinese space-borne sensors to operate over the Pacific if they launched a strike on Taiwan, do you? And if we denied them that capability, as we are well capable of doing, how would they see the B-21 then, given that the B-2 and B-21 design avoid search radars as well as tracking radars, unlike the F-22 or J-20, and given that we are primarily worried about a conflict over the blue water, I would argue, only after which would the strikes progress towards and then beyond enemy shorelines. By the time the first strikes would be directed against enemy coastal radar, any ships underway would already be sunk, I would argue, their maritime AWACS would be destroyed, and their satellites would all be blind, at best.
@jakobmax3299
@jakobmax3299 Жыл бұрын
The b21 is probably even more stealthy. A lot of people are saying its even more stealthy than the f22.
@MattWaller04
@MattWaller04 Жыл бұрын
I believe the B-2 is already more stealthy than the Raptor due to the lack of vertical stabilizers
@uummmnocoolnames
@uummmnocoolnames Жыл бұрын
@@MattWaller04 From what I understand, the F-22 has a smaller radar cross section then the B2, but only marginally, so while the F-22 is technically harder to pick up on radar, the B-2's stealth tech is hiding a plane 4x bigger almost as efficiently, making it "stealthier". It's hard to tell when people say "The B-21 is stealthier" whether or not they mean the RCS or just the efficiency of its signature masking.
@MattyJ55046
@MattyJ55046 Жыл бұрын
It is. Think of the difference in technology. F-22 was made right before huge technological advancements.
@DeetexSeraphine
@DeetexSeraphine Жыл бұрын
I wanna say that it's unlikely, but there's almost 20 years of research and development between the two... so you might actually be right
@jakobmax3299
@jakobmax3299 Жыл бұрын
@@DeetexSeraphine There are multiple factors to this, first of all the b21 is a naturally stealthy shape without vertical stabilisers or pertruding cockpit. The next thing is the obviously next gen RAM coating. From the reveal we have seen, that it is a totaly different colour to what we have seen before. And to top all the stealthy shenanigans of the air intakes are fucking tiny.
@jamison884
@jamison884 Жыл бұрын
From everything I've read on B-21 and per their own announcement: 1. It's stealthier than anything else, including the F-22 Raptor, utilizing all stealth technology and knowledge gathered over the past four decades. The radar-absorbing materials are much more effective and durable, accounting for a reported 80 to 90% all by themselves. It may sound ridiculous, but I don't think it can be locked on by virtually any system deployed right now. 2. Range will be huge and not require refueling close to the target region and will not require forward-basing internationally. 3. First test flight will be in 2023. There are currently six in the final stages of production and it was created with digital engineering, allowing the latest software and engineering techniques to simulate problems digitally rather than waiting to discover physical problems. The test jets are much more likely to be close to final versions than all previous aircraft.
@MarcusAurelius12
@MarcusAurelius12 Жыл бұрын
Question. Why are we spending all this money on aircraft when countries like Russia and China are building hypersonic missiles. Isn't aircraft becoming obsolete? Seems like turning our intention on hypersonic missiles would make more sense than stealthy aircraft. Right?
@jamison884
@jamison884 Жыл бұрын
@@MarcusAurelius12 The US has in excess of 10 hypersonic missile programs in development, from ground-launched, air-launched, hypersonic glide vehicles to traditional warheads on large rocket boosters and potentially ramjet sustainers at high altitudes. Other countries have supersonic missiles and a select few have deployed hypersonic missiles. The US will have the best of both worlds in both hypersonic missiles and stealth missiles (and stealth planes) with the first hypersonic missile being deployed in 2023. By 2026 to 2028, the US should have 3 or 4 different hypersonic missiles deployed from USN vessels, US Army ground launchers, and USAF F-15s and bombers. So, yes, the US was a bit of a late bloomer, but shortly that deficit will disappear. Meanwhile, China, Russia, and others are still playing catch-up trying to develop stealth aircraft and stealth cruise missiles. I'd rather be the master of stealth than the master of hypersonics and catching up on stealth. Hypersonic missiles existed since the 1960s, they just became a new thing again recently due to the advent of maneuverable hypersonic missiles.
@TheStormpilgrim
@TheStormpilgrim Жыл бұрын
@@MarcusAurelius12 A hypersonic missile is just one weapon in what should be an integrated system. Russia's and China's development of them is an acknowledgment of their inability so far to match American offensive capabilities. They are asymmetric weapons designed to reach places that they have no other way to reach. Physics puts limits on what they will be capable of and once software and hardware is adapted to match and counter that capability, then they are just really fast missiles that can still be shot down easily. They won't solve the problem of reach for very long. The B-21 is the product of a more holistic approach to offensive warfare and it gives the US the ability to modulate its response to any given situation. You can't secretly gather intelligence in a battlefield with a hypersonic missile. Once you fire it, your intentions are pretty obvious. A hypersonic missile is also a one-trick pony. There are many kinds of ordnance a B-21 can deliver and it can be done within a range that shrinks the enemy's decision time to almost nothing. At the moment, Russia or China cannot fire a hypersonic missile within a range that would surprise American forces. The B-21 certainly could if there were an air-launched hypersonic that was small enough. That doesn't seem to be the American philosophy for cruise missiles, though. Stealth trumps speed, especially if you're already launching it from a stealth aircraft. The B-21 is still built around strategic deterrence. Any adversary is quite aware that their command and control infrastructure could be in flames before they even knew anyone was there. That's not as much a threat for large nations with dispersed forces, but North Korea should really be worried about the B-21. Once enough of them are operational, the possibility of an American president deciding to pull the jersey over Kim Jong Un's head and beat the piss out of him becomes quite real. While he's left bleeding on the ice, land-based and ship-borne missile defense would take out any rockets that might get in the air. I would bet that any Chinese move against Taiwan would come with action by North Korea in order to split US and Japanese capabilities. Even if North Korea did nothing but posture, it would divert precious resources and then if China succeeded in Taiwan, we would be in a bigger bind. Better to deal with it on our own terms and scramble Chinese planning. Let them stick a half million troops in North Korea to hold up a puppet regime. That would pretty severely drain their logistics for any move against Taiwan. None of that would be possible with hypersonic missiles alone.
@AnonD38
@AnonD38 Жыл бұрын
@@MarcusAurelius12 Riddle me this batman: what’s going to deploy the oh so famous „hypersonic missiles“? Most likely a bomber. There, that’s the reason.
@MarcusAurelius12
@MarcusAurelius12 Жыл бұрын
@@AnonD38 China and Russia don't need bombers to launch theres......
@ChrisSzulwach
@ChrisSzulwach Жыл бұрын
B21 is almost 100% sure to be more stealthy than F22 due to newer RAM, no vertical tail...
@XLStress
@XLStress Жыл бұрын
Dem DDR5 RAM working hard
@prophoenix212
@prophoenix212 Жыл бұрын
But the wingspan is around 45 meters…. You cannot defy physics F22 has a wingspan of 14 meters (1/3 of B21)
@MattyJ55046
@MattyJ55046 Жыл бұрын
Agreed
@mystershow
@mystershow Жыл бұрын
And it's quite cheap for such a plane
@flamebreakk
@flamebreakk Жыл бұрын
Also it keeps its thermal signal on top and it most certainly mixes cold with the the exhaust. Also you should do this test with it at maximum altitude. I believe it’s what 50-50k ft
@wind_runner6836
@wind_runner6836 Жыл бұрын
The Secretary of Defense and Head of Airforce specifically stated the B-21 was more stealthy than the F-22. Besides you need to add the wingman drones it could control as well as the LARASM as its a standoff bomber. Great vid! Cannot wait till you trick out the B-21.
@Gabriel_McMillan
@Gabriel_McMillan Жыл бұрын
Excellent video just came out from Alex Hollings', titled, "Is the B-21 Raider just an upgraded B-2?". One of his initial lines is, "When Northgrup Grumman first introduced the B-2, MS DOS had just been introduced two weeks prior". It is a radical improvement on what was always the stealthiest aircraft ever built, until now.
@Gabriel_McMillan
@Gabriel_McMillan Жыл бұрын
Also, yes, Loyal Wingman drones, Valkyries, and the like, by all means. Encore! Btw, Cap, if the B-21, Valkyrie, or the like are ever flown in un-manned mode, then you might consider some new sort of respawn scheme, since in real life, the pilot might just start flying a different aircraft if one were destroyed, especially if it were an "attritable" aircraft, like the Valkyrie, and less so if it were the B-21, but even so, I could see having an extra unmanned B-21 loitering on stand-by, and if the one I was flying got blown up, well, it was a high risk mission, missiles happen, good thing I had a spare B-21 circling like a trained falcon 100 miles away...
@tjscrib2012
@tjscrib2012 Жыл бұрын
B-21 is the direct bomber as part of an initiative to turn to a 2 bomber force. B-52 will be stand off bomber, and b-21 will be direct bomber.
@lizadonrex
@lizadonrex Жыл бұрын
@@tjscrib2012 in reality b-21 will only drop stand off weapon
@theboothy91
@theboothy91 Жыл бұрын
The b-21 IS part of the loyal wingman program, it can fly without pilots
@ZESAUCEBOSS
@ZESAUCEBOSS Жыл бұрын
Another thing about that B2 crash is it got caught in a nasty cross wind, right after it rotated on takeoff. Because a flying wing is just a wing, they are particularly vulnerable in that situation too. I think it’s worth noting that despite it being a low and slow crash as well, both pilots ejected and survived.
@TR1ppl3
@TR1ppl3 Жыл бұрын
Also a B-2 was shot down in the Yugoslavian war. Of course the USAF is not gonna admit it was shot down. But I remember the Serbian guys who shot down the F-117 also managed to hit the B-2. The limping B-2 crashed while going back to base as the result of getting hit.
@vega469
@vega469 Жыл бұрын
@@TR1ppl3 that conspiracy theory is fuckin hilarious to me because living next to Whiteman, I see that specific B-2 that was "shot down" in Yugoslavia very often lmfao
@anxietygamingactual6554
@anxietygamingactual6554 Жыл бұрын
@@TR1ppl3 No, it wasn't. The only B-2 EVER lost was the one that crashed.
@cameronspence4977
@cameronspence4977 Жыл бұрын
@@TR1ppl3 that didnt actually happen its a myth😂
@cagneybillingsley2165
@cagneybillingsley2165 Жыл бұрын
the b-2 is still the most innovative and original looking plane ever made
@castlekingside76
@castlekingside76 Жыл бұрын
The B2 is still extremely useful. Any B2 mission is incredibly well thought out. They would never truly be in danger if used properly.
@AnonD38
@AnonD38 Жыл бұрын
It’s likely the enormous cost both of operating and maintaining it caused it to be axed
@jonathanpfeffer3716
@jonathanpfeffer3716 Жыл бұрын
@@AnonD38 more just the fact that there wasn’t really any use for them when the program started spitting out bombers, the USSR collapsed. up till now 20 B2s was way more than necessary for any potential threat. now China exists so there is a need for more B2 equivalent aircraft.
@ericwagener9781
@ericwagener9781 Жыл бұрын
Did y'all use any of the radar jamming technology for the B1? Or even flare and chaff. B1 has an extensive suite of electronic warfare capabilities. I know, because that was my system to work on on the b1. I also agree with one of the other comments about bringing it in low level. The b1 was designed for high speed low level insertion.
@mamneo2
@mamneo2 Жыл бұрын
Incroyable.
@nathaniellazo5912
@nathaniellazo5912 Жыл бұрын
Dam, you guys got the B-21 quick!! Good luck to the new aircraft in town.
@CharlesFosterMalloy
@CharlesFosterMalloy Жыл бұрын
B-21 is a 6th Generation jet - it will have lasers/energy weapons - need to add that function to knock out enemy missiles. It will also have superior jamming and other electronic warfare features, including AI assisted hacking.
@yujinhikita5611
@yujinhikita5611 Жыл бұрын
my timing is on point
@donsmith8049
@donsmith8049 Жыл бұрын
Two or three years ago two b2 bombers flew over my house at about 2000ft in Watton Norfolk uk. Heading towards the east coast. I couldn’t believe what I was seeing.
@ballisticarc
@ballisticarc Жыл бұрын
B-21 having F-35 avionics, it'd be interesting to see it operate in a group with mixed bag of AIM-260s, HARMs and JDAMs. I've heard its operating concept is a mix of bomber, missile truck, ISR, everything but ground attack, airborne assault and aerial tanker.
@jtjames79
@jtjames79 Жыл бұрын
I'd like the idea of an autonomous ground attack munition. A missile with a machine gun. Nothing fancy like a rotating gatling, it's disposable and it's not going to last that long. When the barrel and/or fuel runs out it kamikazes.
@hertzwave8001
@hertzwave8001 Жыл бұрын
@@jtjames79 ...so a loitering munition, that for some reason has a useless gun
@Gabriel_McMillan
@Gabriel_McMillan Жыл бұрын
You missed one. It's everything except all of that... and super-sonic. Seems like we'd want to replace the B1B with something, well, faster, rather than replacing both it and the B-2 with the B-21.
@Gabriel_McMillan
@Gabriel_McMillan Жыл бұрын
@@jtjames79 I'd be happy with just a de-militarized F-16 with a fusion-powered jet engine.
@carlosandleon
@carlosandleon Жыл бұрын
@@Gabriel_McMillan fusion powered jet engine. . .
@hiratiomasterson4009
@hiratiomasterson4009 Жыл бұрын
One thing to keep in mind for the real world, which is not modelled in DCS and is not often discussed in the real world, is how much more effective onboard electronic warfare systems become when they have to only deal with relatively small RCS signatures. This means less power is needed to do things such as provide active cancellation signals, jam radars or undertake various other techniques to make detection, tracking and finally targeting as difficult as possible. Pure stealth is just one chapter of a very large and complex novel...
@jamesvermillion5151
@jamesvermillion5151 Жыл бұрын
Since the B-1 is supposed to be NOE capable, why not bring her in under the radar rather than at altitude? Take a dive to sea level however far out as required.
@nath9091
@nath9091 Жыл бұрын
I guess because flying low means someone can eyeball you which means they can have a go at you with AA guns. Flying high is better if you can.
@trolleriffic
@trolleriffic Жыл бұрын
@@nath9091 Also stand-off weapons have longer ranges when deployed from high altitude, especially glide bombs.
@keithhoward4069
@keithhoward4069 Жыл бұрын
true, they should have gone low.
@SayYestoSecks
@SayYestoSecks Жыл бұрын
I would have voted low as well. The only thing I would be curious is how many remaining B-1s can actually fly at the listed Mach 1.2 since they beat the hell out of the service life on the wings on many of the airframes in the B-1 fleet
@Gongolongo
@Gongolongo Жыл бұрын
It kills the range and can't deploy its weapons. If you are detected, you're in a very poor spot because you're low on PE. Aerial radars probably will still spot you.
@Terra-Quattuor
@Terra-Quattuor Жыл бұрын
What I do like about the B21 Raider, is that it is finally less expensive than its predecessor. The B2 Spirit costed around 2 Billion USD each, not including lifetime maintenance cost. B21 will be around 751 million USD each, so less than half the cost of the Spirit.
@riskinhos
@riskinhos Жыл бұрын
that's not total program cost. it will be more expensive. not less.
@Terra-Quattuor
@Terra-Quattuor Жыл бұрын
@riskinhos fair answer. Though it's promising the lifetime cost will be lower than the Spirit (total program cost). If maintenance cost, production and cost per plane is less than half that of a Spirit, I'd call that a major win.
@riskinhos
@riskinhos Жыл бұрын
@@Terra-Quattuor it's not lower in any estimate. as quoted by the us government, department of defense, the manufacturer and all independent sources. and even the requirement specified more money per airframe.
@nazukeoya
@nazukeoya Жыл бұрын
In 1997 I went to my big sister's Air Force Academy graduation and at the end of their parade of aircraft flying over us including the B1, they flew the B2 over us. It was so loud but magnificent to see in person. 25 years later and it still captures my imagination.
@TheBockenator
@TheBockenator Жыл бұрын
Similar experience. At an airshow the B1 pulled up 30 degrees and hit the throttle with the engines pointing at the crowd. That was the single loudest thing I have ever heard.
@mdb831
@mdb831 Жыл бұрын
21 B2 Spirits built. I had 1 fly right over top of me when I was in a 172 Skyhawk. Coolest thing ever.
@brandonsimunac
@brandonsimunac Жыл бұрын
8 mins in, I hugely admire your ability to create these huge and complex missions in Mission Editor. Thanks Cap!
@roostercogburn151
@roostercogburn151 Жыл бұрын
The B1 was a very fast low altitude bomber. It would never have come in that high.
@user-do5zk6jh1k
@user-do5zk6jh1k 10 ай бұрын
By the time this video was made, the B-1 had already abandoned the low level role by about 2 years.
@DeetexSeraphine
@DeetexSeraphine Жыл бұрын
You guys got the B-21 modeled already?! Wow... props to your prop department
@Leo-ui9cr
@Leo-ui9cr Жыл бұрын
The B21 Raider’s first flight is scheduled to be in 2023. Not too mention the millions of test flights I’m sure they’ve ran in advanced simulators.
@christophero55
@christophero55 Жыл бұрын
You know you've been watching a lot of GR videos when you start to have Grim Reapers dreams lol. So far I've been yelled at by Cap for crashing a plane, been shot down over Ukraine with Matrix while on a low level bombing mission and hunted by Russians, and chased by a miniaturized Damp Sock in a tiny F-14 Tomcat all over town. I'd hear the little F-14 engines get closer and DS would yell, "Oooo a piece of candy" right before trying to strafe me or drop little bombs on me. It seems so ridiculous now but in the dream it was actually really stressful!
@hertzwave8001
@hertzwave8001 Жыл бұрын
Do you need an exorcist
@christophero55
@christophero55 Жыл бұрын
@@hertzwave8001 🤣
@ElPedro1986
@ElPedro1986 Жыл бұрын
Just wanted to chip in to show my appreciation. I have virtually zero interest in planes, the military or 10 minute KZfaq videos. But I will happily watch a half hour sortie from start to finish when you upload. Thanks for such great content and all the effort everyone puts in
@scottb3154
@scottb3154 Жыл бұрын
Good fun, but I feel like IRL the Raptors should have gone in like 20+ miles ahead of the bombers to clear the path.
@mexcore14
@mexcore14 Жыл бұрын
If I understood correctly they wanted to test how close a bomber could get before it was detected. I mean, the best stealth is when there is no one to detect you of course, but for the purpose it worked perfectly.
@fredm1988
@fredm1988 Жыл бұрын
Congratulations and best of luck to your new baby. Thanks to yourself and your friends for awesome videos. You guys have opened my eyes to how costly war would be. You guys do a service for us all with your realistic weapons. Love your stuff!!!
@snakeinthegrak8969
@snakeinthegrak8969 Жыл бұрын
I still think the B-1 going low and super fast on a suicide mission is far more deadly than "I hope they don't see me up here alone."
@jamesmello5358
@jamesmello5358 Жыл бұрын
yeah till a SAM catches u out in the open 😭😭😭😭 good luck. everytime u wanna bomb j loose a billion and some good pilots, smart
@mamneo2
@mamneo2 Жыл бұрын
Incroyable.
@BS25999
@BS25999 Жыл бұрын
Benjamin Robert Rich the second Director of Lockheed's Skunk Works from 1975 to 1991, succeeding its founder, Kelly Johnson. He always said the B2 was to big to be of real value, 'the expensive and the few'... was how he described the B2. In his book he talks about the Skunk Works proposing a much smaller flying wing design strike aircraft but the B2 was selected. 2nd time lucky perhaps.
@rickjames18
@rickjames18 Жыл бұрын
Seems like they got it right this time. If over 120 are built it will be a huge improvement and they can finally retire the B-2s and B-1s. B52s are going to be around for another half century.
@ljessecusterl
@ljessecusterl Жыл бұрын
There was also the A-12 Avenger II that was canceled which was supposed to be the replacement for the Intruder.
@TraditionalAnglican
@TraditionalAnglican Жыл бұрын
The B-21 may have the same wingspan as the B-2, but has a much lower mass & RCS!
@steveallen6412
@steveallen6412 Жыл бұрын
Wasn't expecting to hear the phrase "Burner on. Time to get some... poooontaaaaaaang." in southern drawl today. lol
@Anarchy_420
@Anarchy_420 Жыл бұрын
15:02 I've seen The B-2 "perform" at The Gary Air Show in North West Indiana! Lol I say performing bc it was just that! First off it essentially snuck up on the audience and blasted down the runway at very low altitude and they had explosives rigged up to go after his fly by lol that was the second surprise after seeing a B-2 hauling ass when you (lol and I mean the entire audience) didn't even hear it coming! Freakin incredible memory to have been able to see!
@Anarchy_420
@Anarchy_420 Жыл бұрын
17:01 lol yeah Raptors have HMD night vision now!
@hughmungus2760
@hughmungus2760 Жыл бұрын
Also, Its becoming quite obvious that no matter how good the stealth platform is, if the payload is slow non-stealthy tomahawks, the mission would still fail. Which is why I think missile truck bombers will still be around to stay for a very long time.
@Im_MarkS
@Im_MarkS Жыл бұрын
I thought the most important thing was that B21 doesn’t have to refuel, kc 135 is a sitting duck in the sky and therefore vulnerable when refuelling. Tru that its stealth is superior to the B2 and F22 but the main goal was refuelling. At least thats what i heard
@Commissar0617
@Commissar0617 Жыл бұрын
stick refueling packs in the bay of a b-2
@yourmomlol3083
@yourmomlol3083 Жыл бұрын
The B21 is supposed to make it's first flight next year, not 2025. Originally slated for mid 2022 first flight but got pushed back 6 or so months so it should be up there pretty soon.
@Pablo668
@Pablo668 Жыл бұрын
The RCS of the B21 is smaller than the average size of object that Cap has to get removed in the emergency ward. Amazing.
@popquizzz
@popquizzz Жыл бұрын
Like a wedding cake the US aerial bomber armament is layered and delicious. The B-52s still in use from the 50's and 60's still are part of these delicate layers. Certainly, drones and missiles would be used to take out an adversary's forward detection and deterrent, but those B-1B, and B-2's would still be deployed in follow on missions through our Air National Guard stations forward deployed to strategic bases of Atlantic or Pacific Allies. The simulation is fun to watch, thanks for taking the time to share.
@jayshah3566
@jayshah3566 Жыл бұрын
Great Mission, however I doubt that a b-21 mission would involve knowingly going into a bvr dogfight. It's more likely enemy fighters are not in the air. If yes, maybe 1 or 2. The f-22 would be there incase.
@fredm1988
@fredm1988 Жыл бұрын
I really appreciate the military type information you provide. The beginning setup is awesome not boring.
@thetbnrtitanium007
@thetbnrtitanium007 Жыл бұрын
All of these colors look so pretty. You picked a good time of day to run the mission.
@greenmountainpokemon2112
@greenmountainpokemon2112 Жыл бұрын
Hello Capp, and "boy's" always a good day when you upload Content!! I'm always blown away with how professional you all are, all the time it's incredible!! So I noticed you started saying your "building your own missiles, and modeling your own damage" just to increase the "realism" is an unbelievable amount of work... 🤯 I notice all the work, the time zone differences (especially you 3-4am people), all the professionalism and I APPRECIATE all of you!!
@theclassicliberal1915
@theclassicliberal1915 Жыл бұрын
It’s a delight watching Violet constantly evolving and flying all the various jets and absolutely killing it. Once again mates, such a great video with incredible views. I fly a lot of night missions and thoroughly enjoy them. Word. ~A Valued Viewer.
@fgialcgorge7392
@fgialcgorge7392 Жыл бұрын
The videos I've watched and articles I've read say the B-21 will be the most stealthy aircraft currently in use by any nation. They will also have a suite of active denial systems. That's all I've been really able to gather in regards to their capabilities. I would imagine with that said they'll be more stealthy than an F-35, at least. Decent starting point though.
@rickjames18
@rickjames18 Жыл бұрын
Great one! I reallly enjoyed, let's try to plan the mission before the enemy starts attacking in the future. Like at least a few miles before they start launching may help. Otherwise, this was fun to watch.
@dexlab7539
@dexlab7539 Жыл бұрын
Great mission Cap - thanks!!
@SuperpowerBroadcasting
@SuperpowerBroadcasting Жыл бұрын
This was so awesome. Love the sunset in the first part
@blackhillsrc600
@blackhillsrc600 Жыл бұрын
B21 is actually going to be stationed at the local Air Force Base to me. Excited to see them flying around!
@alext2933
@alext2933 Жыл бұрын
Stunning visuals with the sunset.
@torofecal
@torofecal Жыл бұрын
Dang wanted to see the “Wobbilin’ Goblin” on here too for reference.
@FuzzJBall
@FuzzJBall Жыл бұрын
If I remember right the B-2 was never meant to fly through enemy radar but instead fly around the edges of the coverage area.
@timopkokko
@timopkokko Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the tech update! I did not know that B2 Spirit is no more stealth.
@genenautilus451
@genenautilus451 Жыл бұрын
The B1 was designed to be a ground following supersonic boomber. I am not a military expert but I would think the best plan would be to fly just above the waves and in that case it would not be detected by radar until much closer than 80 miles due to curvature of the earth. So would not that be the best strategy for all the bombers?
@383mazda
@383mazda Жыл бұрын
Totally off topic - have you ever recreated Victor Bolenko's Mig25 defection flight to Japan? He barely made it; would be cool to see if your crew could do it.
@Jacobarch1981
@Jacobarch1981 Жыл бұрын
This makes me want to get back into DCS. Miss you guys @GR!
@ricbrown1114
@ricbrown1114 Жыл бұрын
Worthy of note and has been stated, neither the B2 or the B21 would not have needed to get that close to launch ANY of the weapons in the US arsenal to destroy the target. So the fact that they got that close is proof of their ongoing capabilities.
@lars.2389
@lars.2389 Жыл бұрын
Great Video ,great comparison. I think it was announcet that the b21 will have first flight in 2023.
@uummmnocoolnames
@uummmnocoolnames Жыл бұрын
From what I understand, first flight if the B-21 is scheduled for next year sometime, and they want it to enter service around 2027. It sounded to me like the focus of development is purely on new stealth tech, and most of the actual mechanical bits are proven parts bin stuff slightly modified. The US military really don't want another decade of bad press over procurement like the V-22 and F-35, so they are stressing fast development.
@watcherzero5256
@watcherzero5256 Жыл бұрын
Yes first test flight is scheduled for six months hence, its got some new communication equipment but is using off the shelf engines (Believed to be two F135 engines tuned for fuel efficiency rather than speed as its a subsonic aircraft) This would likely make its acceleration pretty slow and maneuverability almost non-existent.
@anthonysaponaro6318
@anthonysaponaro6318 Жыл бұрын
amazing that you've been contacted by actual Bomber pilots brother ! you've really got something special here !
@3idraven714
@3idraven714 Жыл бұрын
Great vid!
@mrkeogh
@mrkeogh Жыл бұрын
Any estimate of the B-21's RCS is just guesswork at this point. It probably has half the surface area of a B-2 and is "two generations" more advanced in terms of stealthiness. The conformal engine inlets alone will make a big difference to the Raider's RCS returns. And that long, long range on internal fuel makes it possible to loiter outside enemy airspace, waiting for opportunities and gaps in enemy defenses.
@1949crewchief
@1949crewchief Жыл бұрын
Im excited about this airframe. Right when I was seperating there was rumor of a high speed little brother to the B2. I bet we see this thing filling the roll in the Australian air force of the F111.
@BlackStarMedia
@BlackStarMedia Жыл бұрын
I loved watching the live unveiling!
@lazaglider
@lazaglider Жыл бұрын
Just a general comment: I have no interest in playing DCS, but Cap you and the guys have entertained me for years. Thanks for that. Also, where is RC?
@grimreapers
@grimreapers Жыл бұрын
My pleasure - RC is moving house.
@pimplimpdashiznit
@pimplimpdashiznit Жыл бұрын
Cap any thoughts of using 1 or 2 of your guys to act as a missile shield for the bombers? Maybe laying down a chaff blanket in front of it once things start coming to try and throw the tracking off? Keep the good videos coming!
@jonathanregan4344
@jonathanregan4344 Жыл бұрын
I’m almost certain that B-21 is more stealthy then what you have made it, base off press conference. He said this is combination of 50 years of learning of stealth technology combined into B-21 Raider. There is no way they are making and trying produce 100 of these things, if they are just only as stealth as F-22 or F-35 just wouldn’t make any since. He said in press conference even the most advanced radar systems on planet can’t really track this thing, and generally when they speak like this, they are actually under playing what it can really do. But I’m 99.99% sure it’s the most stealth aircraft that US has ever created.
@davidturner7577
@davidturner7577 Жыл бұрын
Given the capability of modern radars, I just don't see stealth being sent to gravity bomb targets with unsuppressed defenses. Surely the point of stand off munitions is to synergize with stealth capabilities. Stealth to get in theater, missiles/standoff munitions to penetrate the point defenses.
@SilentShark
@SilentShark Жыл бұрын
Haven't heard Cap do the 'Paladin Laugh' for a while!
@glennpettersson9002
@glennpettersson9002 Жыл бұрын
Great video 👍
@hughmungus2760
@hughmungus2760 Жыл бұрын
I think when dealing with VLO aircraft you need to start modelling in IRSTs which can now outrange radars against such aircraft. Modern IRSTs can detect fighter sized targets out to 50km
@Just_A_Random_Desk
@Just_A_Random_Desk Жыл бұрын
0:01 IIRC, the B-21 will have it's first flight in 2023, not 2025
@anthonysaponaro6318
@anthonysaponaro6318 Жыл бұрын
I love how excited you get
@adamg8365
@adamg8365 Жыл бұрын
Impressive. Thanks guys.
@MarkMeadows90
@MarkMeadows90 Жыл бұрын
Good stuff as usual you guys
@jason.paredes
@jason.paredes Жыл бұрын
1. Airframe is constructed using 3d printing (for internal frames) in addition to standard autoclave for the overall external structure. this gives a massive reduction in weight. 2. F-35 engines...non afterburning but together output is about 30k lbs. thrust each. Estimate range at 6-8k unrefueled. 3. We have not seen the exhaust structures yet...we can assume a radical evolution from B21.
@noaenglishcafe9555
@noaenglishcafe9555 Жыл бұрын
I used to be the program manager for the B1 electronic ware fare defense system . At robins Airforce base
@benwillis7209
@benwillis7209 Жыл бұрын
I know why everything was shot down… no one opened their canopy! Would like to see re-run but with the F22s decoying the J10s away from the Raider.
@timbaskett6299
@timbaskett6299 Жыл бұрын
I made a joke on the Pilotphotog live of the unveiling of the B-21. "In 30years, they'll reveal the B-25 Mitchell II, and the B-52 will be there to see it!!" 😄 🤣
@kurtreichenbach8927
@kurtreichenbach8927 Жыл бұрын
21 B-2's Down to 20 due to a crash on Guam. Was deployed to Guam with B-2's when the crash happened and saw it in person. Also have had 3 major accidents/incidents but the planes were fixed or being fixed and return to flight status. The latest being the landing gear malfunction on landing last year. ......RB.....
@gregmcgonigal363
@gregmcgonigal363 Жыл бұрын
As far as I know we had 2 B2 crash. The one at Guam and one landing back at Whiteman AFB. My understanding it had old springs in the one set gear. The springs gave out and the wing dug into the runway and dirt. They say it's being repaired. You can see the crashed B2 on Google Earth.
@Murphys2ndLaw
@Murphys2ndLaw Жыл бұрын
B21 is much smaller return then the F22. I can’t say exactly how much…but, trust me. With the next gen Casper RAM and sub absorbing composites. It’s lightyears beyond what I tested previously.
@thelatemickb6927
@thelatemickb6927 Жыл бұрын
Question, can you surround a low stealth bomber with LCS fighters to screen it?
@ricrusso7347
@ricrusso7347 Жыл бұрын
Im kind of surprised Cap that you really didn't know that when it comes to radar reflection size has nothing to do with return signal it's the shape, angles, engines fins and nice aircraft tail!!!
@GiGaWattMan
@GiGaWattMan Жыл бұрын
Be great to see you make the stealthy Valkyrie drone as its role would be for sucking up air and ground defenses. Can carry a multitude of weapons for counter surface and counter air operations.
@MrNoobmania
@MrNoobmania Жыл бұрын
Spit out my drink laughing when I heard the US Air Force referred to as “you-saf” 😂
@andrelochner3285
@andrelochner3285 Жыл бұрын
I know y’all are busy with a ton but could you look into the GBU-53/B StormBreaker? It’s a bomb very similar to the SDB but significantly more advanced in capability. The F-35 can carry 8 of them internally in conjunction with two AMRAAMs. The F-15E can also carry them, up to 28
@valuedhumanoid6574
@valuedhumanoid6574 Жыл бұрын
I live in Indianapolis and have for most of my life. Which of course means the Indy 500, the Brickyard 400, an F1 race and a motorcycle race every year (for the most part) which also means we get military flyovers at the start of every race. They come in on cue as the national anthem is just finishing. It's a thrilling spectacle that makes the crowd go nuts. My favorite ones were of course the Harrier and the B-2. This thing came in at 200 feet AGL and when I first laid eyes on it, it was silent. That in and of itself is amazing. We only heard it when it came over the track and even then the busses driving by the track made more noise that that thing did. Just so quiet. But the best was the inaugural Brickyard. A Harrier came into the track just above the wall and slowly hovered into the center where it stopped. It pivoted 360° and slid over turn one, where it hovered above the crowd for about 10 seconds, turned 180° then took off like a bat out of hell. Then it joined a flight of 3 others and they flew over in the missing man formation. It still brings gooseflesh to me when I remember that feeling. I felt like saluting something
@jonkvh
@jonkvh Жыл бұрын
B-21 is definitely 'not' afterburner capable, by design.
@Shadowboost
@Shadowboost Жыл бұрын
100% this
@ouchouch7887
@ouchouch7887 Жыл бұрын
The b1 bomber is meant to attack at low level high speed
@jtjames79
@jtjames79 Жыл бұрын
Quantity is its quality.
@charlietheunicorn5383
@charlietheunicorn5383 Жыл бұрын
From my understanding, the B21 Raider is stealthy to both low AND high band radar. It might be the first known aircraft to employ these technologies and make it into production. If the B21 can come in on price, it will be significantly cheaper (per unit) and (per flight hour) compared to B2. B21 supposedly has a significant upgraded load compared to the B2. However, this is all theory craft.
@waynesworldofsci-tech
@waynesworldofsci-tech Жыл бұрын
Very nice.
@jonathanjohnson7036
@jonathanjohnson7036 Жыл бұрын
The B-1 was designed to fly NOE (Nap of the Earth). She should have be flying no more than 50 feet above sea level.
@michelchaman6495
@michelchaman6495 Жыл бұрын
for night missions is there a mod you could use for missile cam/spectator cam to be in night vision should just be a filter?
@johnhermann7498
@johnhermann7498 Жыл бұрын
Bear in mind that the B-21 is also supposed to be capable of carrying A2A missiles....
@jameshewitt8828
@jameshewitt8828 Жыл бұрын
What websites for military news do you suggest looking at Cap?
@wolfskid15
@wolfskid15 Жыл бұрын
If any of you guys are ever in Ohio there's a terrific Air Force museum in Dayton called Wright-Patterson that has loads of incredible planes including the B-2 and SR-71. Would highly recommend
@mikefry9920
@mikefry9920 Жыл бұрын
Congratulations
@MrJay_White
@MrJay_White Жыл бұрын
here at the start, im wondering it will be anti-flash white and if they (can) use the relevant ordinance.
@Psychobolic77
@Psychobolic77 Жыл бұрын
Interesting. Do you think its chances would improve if it were to do a high altitude bomb run? I assume that would be its best and only chance, keeping a distance from enemy radar transmitters in the form of altitude.
@joaquinltaif5744
@joaquinltaif5744 Жыл бұрын
Jajaja I love that the Battle is in Malvinas!!
@RedSurfBoy
@RedSurfBoy Жыл бұрын
Still hoping for a reborn "Jungle Fever " I know I've asked for this many times over the years but I can't be the only one. Please consider this request 🙏 😊. Wonderful B-21 video... get some
@korvmastaren5476
@korvmastaren5476 Жыл бұрын
it would be interesting to see like stealthy f16 or stealthy gripen vs suchoi su 57 felon
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