How GOOD was Bastiodon ACTUALLY? - History of Bastiodon in Competitive Pokemon

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Bastiodon is today’s Pokemon for our competitive history series! Join False Swipe Gaming in this overview of Bastiodon in competitive Pokemon!
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@whomgod420
@whomgod420 2 жыл бұрын
Ah yes a physical wall that's 4x weak to the two biggest physical offensive types, what could go wrong
@sonofhades57
@sonofhades57 2 жыл бұрын
The horrendous HP stat doesn't help.
@AllesZuSpaet53
@AllesZuSpaet53 2 жыл бұрын
@@sonofhades57 I really don't get it either, it's a chunky fucking dinosaur but for some reason Hippowdon has better HP???
@jankowalski9039
@jankowalski9039 2 жыл бұрын
@@sonofhades57 it's rly not that bad tho. It's higher than toxapex and that's like the last thing you'd ever call frail. Defenses make up for that.
@antoniogilromero1981
@antoniogilromero1981 2 жыл бұрын
@@AllesZuSpaet53 HEY, don´t you there mess with our godfather Hippowdon
@stetsonherrick8090
@stetsonherrick8090 2 жыл бұрын
Shuca or Chople Berry to survive and then turn Metal Burst back on your opponent. It's a discount/substitute Wobbuffet that when done right, flips the script on your opponents.
@nohrianscum9791
@nohrianscum9791 2 жыл бұрын
The best sign of how terrible the Rock/Steel typing is Mega Aggron going from Steel/Rock to just Steel.
@iamhim408
@iamhim408 2 жыл бұрын
@The OG death
@lilylopnco
@lilylopnco 2 жыл бұрын
@The OG have a nice day
@alexanderl.2026
@alexanderl.2026 2 жыл бұрын
@@iamhim408 Lmfaoo I love this 💀💀
@samuelteriba7619
@samuelteriba7619 2 жыл бұрын
@@iamhim408 lmao
@MrcreeperDXD777
@MrcreeperDXD777 2 жыл бұрын
@The OG to end its pitiful existence
@DaMaster012
@DaMaster012 Жыл бұрын
In _Pokemon Legends: Arceus,_ in the Coronet Highlands region, there is a small cave tunnel where inside you can find the partially unearthed fossilized skeletons of a Bastiodon and a Rampardos. The orientation of the fossils means the Nosepass that spawns next to them always spawns looking at them, and the main entrance of the cave is guarded by an Alpha Probobass. Game Freak sure have a cruel sense of humor.
@sayvionwashington1939
@sayvionwashington1939 2 жыл бұрын
Bastiodon: I LOVE DEFENSE! Machop: *lightly Karate Chops it* Bastiodon: *Shatters like glass*
@ricardoechevarria9421
@ricardoechevarria9421 2 жыл бұрын
I LOL’D at this
@geometryemperor
@geometryemperor 2 жыл бұрын
Or worse, Low Kick.
@myvh773
@myvh773 2 жыл бұрын
Actually it is not enough to KO: 252+ Atk Guts Machop Karate Chop vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Bastiodon: 252-300 (77.7 - 92.5%)
@lapoosielover5877
@lapoosielover5877 2 жыл бұрын
@@myvh773 r/woooosh
@Kristalya
@Kristalya 2 жыл бұрын
Bastiodon: Well at the very least birds will never break my defense! I am the light in the darkness against avians! 🛡 Staraptor: Do you have time to hear about our lord and savior, Close Combat? 🦅
@insertobligatoryreferenceh489
@insertobligatoryreferenceh489 2 жыл бұрын
Dual types are almost always better than mono types, due to better move pools and two STAB types. Keyword here is almost.
@Ashelybee
@Ashelybee 2 жыл бұрын
You know what's funny? Fossile pokemons are all rock types because they are resurrected with a fossil wich is a rock meaning bastiodon was supposed to be pure steel he got ruined by science
@Nadid_Dhrabb
@Nadid_Dhrabb 2 жыл бұрын
@@Ashelybee And then the gen 8 fossils came around
@user-uq9oe7sc5m
@user-uq9oe7sc5m 2 жыл бұрын
@@Ashelybee Is this CONFIRMED? Or just a fan theory?
@andrevanderlinden8722
@andrevanderlinden8722 2 жыл бұрын
@@Nadid_Dhrabb those were a mistake
@breloommaster12
@breloommaster12 2 жыл бұрын
@@Nadid_Dhrabb the Gen 8 fossils also got ruined, but by "scientist" incompetence this time
@Mar-iw5ut
@Mar-iw5ut 2 жыл бұрын
The most surprising part of this video is that it isn't called How BAD was Bastidon ACTUALLY
@dungeonmaster3464
@dungeonmaster3464 2 жыл бұрын
Because it's not as famously terrible as Regigigus.
@dungeonmaster3464
@dungeonmaster3464 2 жыл бұрын
@@jaretco6423 I don't deny that, but nobody talks about Bastiodon. It's like Flareon or Ledian, people don't openly desecrate Bastiodon for its uselessness.
@jaretco6423
@jaretco6423 2 жыл бұрын
@@dungeonmaster3464 That's fair.
@iantaakalla8180
@iantaakalla8180 2 жыл бұрын
But if you look at it Bastiodon is actually that bad. It’s just not known as “the worst” because it’s forgotten. Flareon is an Eeveelution so the spotlight is on it, and it has never performed nicely, casually or competitively. Ledian comes from an early route so you may get a Ledian and see how bad it is. Regigigas is a legendary, and Slaking has the stats of a legendary and features with Norman’s team. Ice types are an entire typing and a disadvantage in of itself. Fossils are entirely optional. You could skip the worst fossils in all of Pokémon history by playing Gen 4 (or BDSP, or Gen 7) normally. That is why no one talks about how bad Bastiodon is. It’s not just the worst combo, stats, and moves; you can have it such that you never realize a Bastiodon exists. At least Byron uses a Bastiodon but his gym is also very easy, so he can be forgotten about. Also, no one talks about Bastiodon being the worst because in addition to be obscure by normal Pokémon means, Rampardos is more dramatically bad, you would rather use Probopass, which has a far better design and movepool, the fossils in general are considered bad save the Gen 1 fossils and Gen 8 fossils (and the Gen 8 fossils are mashups so they DON’T have the Rock type, meaning when they got their weather abilities they became good) and Cradily, and Bastiodon is never really featured outside of being Byron’s team. Rampardos at least has mission 9 of Shadows of Almia. What I am saying is that Bastiodon should be actively talked about as one of the worst Pokémon because it is.
@489herobrine9
@489herobrine9 2 жыл бұрын
@@iantaakalla8180 dang, nice write up!
@thespleenenator
@thespleenenator 2 жыл бұрын
Man someone needs to check up on Bastiodon, I'm pretty sure he's one generation away from ending it all from the looks of it.
@ThePharphis
@ThePharphis 2 жыл бұрын
he's holding strong in pokemon go pvp at least
@GoldGuard
@GoldGuard 2 жыл бұрын
It already went extinct. Probably because it sucks so badly
@lemonadogirl4082
@lemonadogirl4082 2 жыл бұрын
Bastiodon ended it all so long ago that it was extinct in _Hisui,_ let alone Sinnoh. We just keep bringing it back to prolong its suffering.
@illdoittomorrow2368
@illdoittomorrow2368 2 жыл бұрын
So that's why he never entered gen 8
@joshuakim5240
@joshuakim5240 2 жыл бұрын
@@lemonadogirl4082 Bastiodon: "Please...just let me die." Humans: "No. You suffering amuses us too much for the peace of death."
@shadestrider1033
@shadestrider1033 5 ай бұрын
Apparently Bastiodon has now been buffed. It has Foul Play, Body Press, and Iron Defense, and it can tera out of its terrible Rock Steel typing.
@JosephRiveraSantiago0617
@JosephRiveraSantiago0617 2 жыл бұрын
It is still a complete CRIME that the literal SHIELD Pokémon is not in Pokémon Shield.
@Ashelybee
@Ashelybee 2 жыл бұрын
Is not a shield is a castle wall but yeah
@Zeo--
@Zeo-- 2 жыл бұрын
We even have castles here in the UK...
@JpForrReal
@JpForrReal 2 жыл бұрын
@@Ashelybee Bastiodon’s dex entry is literally the “Shield Pokemon” and in the anime (0:47 in the vid) it’s depicted as a shield
@Ashelybee
@Ashelybee 2 жыл бұрын
@@JpForrReal bastion-don he litteraly has windows
@Ashelybee
@Ashelybee 2 жыл бұрын
@@JpForrReal whatever you guys are right I'm wrong bye
@sarasaland4709
@sarasaland4709 2 жыл бұрын
Bastiodon really is a prime example of a Pokémon BDSP *should* have buffed. But didn’t.
@gregorymirabella1423
@gregorymirabella1423 2 жыл бұрын
bdsp sucked.
@HeyDaki
@HeyDaki 2 жыл бұрын
@@gregorymirabella1423 Sorry for your poor judgement
@skeetermania3202
@skeetermania3202 2 жыл бұрын
Body Press was right there.
@Edujs23
@Edujs23 2 жыл бұрын
@@skeetermania3202 They gave it to his archnemesis, Probopass
@goGothitaLOL
@goGothitaLOL 2 жыл бұрын
They barely buff anything in -vanilla- BDSP, and even then some pokemon's movepools are robbed, as well as heavily and forcefully crippled (most notably Zapdos) BDSP deadass bans transfer-only (as in moves not in their level-up nor egg-move movepools) moves like Hidden Power, Knock Off, Liquidation, Close Combat, Mystical Fire, The 3 Elemental Punches, Hurricane, Wild Charge, Superpower, Iron Head, Gunk Shot, Zen Headbutt, i could go on. That and BDSP has no Move-tutor *cause it's a faithful D/P remake, not a Platinum remake*
@axyzsz8162
@axyzsz8162 2 жыл бұрын
If you ever think stats are the only thing that matter- remember that Toxapex and Bastiodon have VERY SIMILAR stat distribution. One is an annoying OU staple the other got buried 6 tiers under like the fossil it is.
@autobotstarscream765
@autobotstarscream765 2 жыл бұрын
Now imagine Flareon with Fur Coat having those stats, mono-Fire tank Wisps for days...
@iantaakalla8180
@iantaakalla8180 2 жыл бұрын
I love how fossils are literal and metaphorical in the Pokémon universe. The Pokémon that are fossils literally cannot compete in modern-day Pokémon environments, making them metaphorically fossils as well. Even the fast Aerodactyl is never used and Omastar is only used because it is decently tanky and has Swift Swim, and Cradily was an accident that can heal itself and nullifies Water moves. Except the Galarian fossils, but they’re accidents and probably would have been Rock/Water, Rock/Ice, Rock/Electric, and Rock/Dragon. Of which only the Rock/Water and Rock/Dragon would potentially be the only viable ones when put in sand and rain teams, or many the Rock/Water type overall given the Fishious Rend meme. I’d imagine the Rock/Electric type is too slow for Beak Bolt to be useful, and Rock/Ice is a death sentence unless you’re kitted exactly like Calyrex-Ice Rider.
@ashikjaman1940
@ashikjaman1940 Жыл бұрын
@@iantaakalla8180 Galarian fossils are not true fossils, they are man made abominations that should be purged
@JanusHoW
@JanusHoW Жыл бұрын
Stats, typing, movepool and ability are all important, though a great ability and type combination can elevate an otherwise mediocre Pokemon to high usage (Magic Guard Clefable, Unaware Quagsire) or even brokenness (anything with Moody), while a bad ability can drag a Pokemon with godly stats down (Regigigas, Slaking) to the point of utter uselessness.
@aroperdope
@aroperdope 9 ай бұрын
Stats may not be the only thing that matter, but that doesn't change the fact that this Pokemon sucks
@garryoak
@garryoak 2 жыл бұрын
Back in the days of xerneas I would destroy teams with Bastiadon sturdy, metal burst, red card. It was extremely unexpected.
@nixuniverse5240
@nixuniverse5240 2 жыл бұрын
Why did I read “Xemnas” 🤣
@mussolini2525
@mussolini2525 2 жыл бұрын
I love anti meta sets they are so creative
@augustuscaesar8287
@augustuscaesar8287 2 жыл бұрын
@@nixuniverse5240 pry cause the other Pokemon names are spelled wrong.
@haka-katyt7439
@haka-katyt7439 2 жыл бұрын
@@mussolini2525 and usually win because what opponent is going to expect a bastiodon?
@snapclub8751
@snapclub8751 2 жыл бұрын
🤯
@geometryemperor
@geometryemperor 2 жыл бұрын
To pair it with the Rampardos theorem, here is the Bastiodon theorem: If you are an unbreakable wall, you need some way to actually threaten the opponent, otherwise you are a sitting duck, just like Bastiodon.
@insertobligatoryreferenceh489
@insertobligatoryreferenceh489 Жыл бұрын
I mean, that would imply Bastiodon was actually going to wall anything.
@tylervanpeursem7627
@tylervanpeursem7627 Жыл бұрын
Or just,not have two types full of common weaknesses
@bulborb8756
@bulborb8756 Жыл бұрын
a couple of mons who do fit this would be shuckle and pyukumuku
@senny-
@senny- Жыл бұрын
Or have reliable recovery (look at Toxapex)
@SemiHypercube
@SemiHypercube 2 жыл бұрын
Ah yes the Aggron conundrum of "combining two defensive types actually is a really bad idea"
@artandem9637
@artandem9637 2 жыл бұрын
Bozzo called rock a defensive typing 💀
@blacephallic398
@blacephallic398 2 жыл бұрын
I think the issue is the types being similar, leading to the two 4x resists but also two 4x weaknesses.
@SemiHypercube
@SemiHypercube 2 жыл бұрын
@@artandem9637 got me there (I mean game freak _thinks_ it's a defensive type)
@artandem9637
@artandem9637 2 жыл бұрын
@@SemiHypercube gamefreak also think that I'm smart, so they aren't the brightest.
@autobotstarscream765
@autobotstarscream765 2 жыл бұрын
Whereas combining two _offensive_ types (Rock and Grass) gets you the Chad wall Cradily.
@supernova9014
@supernova9014 2 жыл бұрын
Something sad Kellen didn't mention is that Probopass got Body Press, including in BDSP where almost nothing else has it, but Bastiodon didn't and it doesn't look like it will if it ever does come back at this rate. Aggron also got it in swsh, so Probopass and Aggron have yet another tool to outclass Bastiodon with. Pokemon Go really is the only place you could feasibly use Bastiodon.
@johnhawkins5314
@johnhawkins5314 2 жыл бұрын
And even then you need a solid reason to use it over the more consistent Registeel and Galarian Stunfisk, Both of which are far cheaper to power up once you get your hands on one. Least it isn't outclassed by Probopass for once.
@chaosgallade2331
@chaosgallade2331 2 жыл бұрын
From both an in game and competitive standpoint, Bastiodon is the worst fossil Pokemon. Rock/Steel and offensive stats on par with basic Pokemon don't really do it any favors.
@chaosgallade2331
@chaosgallade2331 2 жыл бұрын
@Taelin Cusic Rock/Steel is a horrible defensive typing no matter how you slice it. 3 weaknesses to very common attacking types (2x to Water and 4x to Fighting and Ground) outweigh the resistances granted by the Steel type.
@bluebirdy1617
@bluebirdy1617 2 жыл бұрын
I mean post gen 4 sturdy into metal burst works well in the base game, but I wholeheartedly agree about comp, bastiodon gets mollywhopped in any competitive setting
@Skeloperch
@Skeloperch 2 жыл бұрын
@@jaretco6423 It is the worst. The only thing you could say is maybe a contender is Aurorus before it got Aurora Veil.
@MrcreeperDXD777
@MrcreeperDXD777 2 жыл бұрын
Literally the only good rock steel is stakataka. And only because of its absurdly high defense and offense in trick room
@Havokx666
@Havokx666 2 жыл бұрын
@Taelin Cusic bro fighting, ground and water type moves are so common that that is a terrible situation for Pokemon to rely on defensively.
@Sleeper800
@Sleeper800 2 жыл бұрын
I'm gonna have to disagree and say that Rock is a bad defensive typing. Its only relevant resistance is Flying (and Fire to some extent), and it stacks weaknesses with actual good defensive typings like Ground, Water, and Steel to make them significantly worse as tanks.
@dodusa5399
@dodusa5399 2 жыл бұрын
I agree, maybe fsg ment offensive typing. cous that i would agree with
@Edujs23
@Edujs23 2 жыл бұрын
The defensive typing that has the most weakness in the game, tied with grass Also rock types do sound good offensively, being effective against fire and flying, but they lack reliable moves that cant miss
@dodusa5399
@dodusa5399 2 жыл бұрын
@@Edujs23 true but ancient power hax are potentialy fun as hell and meteor beam is also quite useful. Rock used to be used more on the phisical but nowadays its equally used if not more on the special side
@Sleeper800
@Sleeper800 2 жыл бұрын
@@Edujs23 Not to mention the lack of distribution of STAB moves in their special movepool. Meteor Beam is pretty much the only properly distributed special Rock move that's worth anything (sorry Ancient Power). And even then you have to commit your item slot to it as well. Power Gem not being on things like Aurorus is a massive fail on Gamefreak's part imo.
@2l84me8
@2l84me8 2 жыл бұрын
It does get a sandstorm buff, but permanent sand isn’t a thing anymore.
@michaelbuxton3659
@michaelbuxton3659 2 жыл бұрын
I vividly remember fighting Byron and not knowing all the type advantages and being shocked when his Bastiodon got 1 hit KO by my Machoke’s cross chop
@docwashere3466
@docwashere3466 2 жыл бұрын
The Rock type. Weighing other types down defensively with the exception of maybe Grass.
@jaden8923
@jaden8923 2 жыл бұрын
It helps bug too
@LegendaryCaptain
@LegendaryCaptain 2 жыл бұрын
I find it ironic one of the types it helps is also infamous for its weaknesses I think it's due to those two types having opposite weaknesses
@antoniogilromero1981
@antoniogilromero1981 2 жыл бұрын
COUGH COUGH "Craidily"
@galvsparks6295
@galvsparks6295 2 жыл бұрын
@@jaden8923 not really, rock/bug is actually Unironically a bottom 10 type, offensively it’s already bad (walled by pure steel and fighting and a good chunk of grounds) but here we’re focusing defensively and it’s… arguably worse, bug has two pretty good resists actually being fighting and ground and what does rock do ? Easy it *gets rid of those* while still keeping bug’s most problematic weakness being rock, oh and what does it actually add to the table ? Easy, two resists to the arguably 2 worst offensive types in the game (normal and poison) and that’s it, these whatever resists is all it has and all that for the price of 3 weaknesses, 2 of them being very problematic in water and rock. There’s a reason why armaldo and crustle are usually in the very depths of the tiering rum (shuckle has the privilege of being more niche so not as handicapped) that being mostly their typing because they actually have potential to achieve stuff in the lower tiers (Armaldo as a spinner and Crustle as a shell smash sweeper) but are doomed to fail due to their horrendous typing
@breloommaster12
@breloommaster12 2 жыл бұрын
@@galvsparks6295 yeah Bug/Rock is not a good type, but I'd also wager that Rock/Grass is also not actually a good defensive type. In exchange for reducing your list of weaknesses from 5 to 4 (and even then Ice and Fighting are still rough types to be weak to), you also lose any useful resistances to Fire, Flying, Water, and Ground that either of the types would have had on their own. Rock/Grass ends up leaving you with resistances to only Normal & Electric, and the only reasons people view Cradily as defensively competent is because it's one of the few Rock-types in existence to have any recovery at all while also having Storm Drain for a very handy immunity, especially for a Rock-type. Most other Rock-types cannot pull off a Rock/Grass defensive typing without the moves and traits that Cradily has
@LesbianWitchAcademia
@LesbianWitchAcademia 2 жыл бұрын
Rock/Steel is SUCH A PATHETIC TYPE. Rock adds literally NOTHING to Steel other than a Fire neutrality, and honestly? I'd rather take the fire weakness
@peropero2208
@peropero2208 2 жыл бұрын
Being 4xweak to two of of the most offensively used types is just a giant insult to this type
@ShiningJudgment666
@ShiningJudgment666 2 жыл бұрын
@@peropero2208 Would've been good if it got a better Solid Rock-like ability so it's 4x weaknesses would only be 2x weaknesses.
@chilln0648
@chilln0648 Жыл бұрын
One of the saddest parts about Bastiodon is that it doesn’t have a recovery move outside of Rest, which is something every wall needs to be, y’know, a wall. Without it, Bastiodon just sits there and dies, it’s so sad
@worldofmonterra
@worldofmonterra 2 жыл бұрын
I hope he does Tyrantrum next, I want to see how good Tyrantrum is
@antoniogilromero1981
@antoniogilromero1981 2 жыл бұрын
Basically, almost the same as unovan Darmanitan
@jaretco6423
@jaretco6423 2 жыл бұрын
Let's just say it's something Rampardo wish it could've been.
@Entelarmer
@Entelarmer 2 жыл бұрын
In short: SMASHING
@matthewkuscienko4616
@matthewkuscienko4616 2 жыл бұрын
Let's see.............. Head Smash backed by STAB and a high attack stat while also having rock head to negate recoil and dragon dance (one of the best boosting moves in the game) on top of being part dragon type? Yeah, Tyrantrum is definitely one of the best fossil Pokemon we've ever gotten
@yorecf9641
@yorecf9641 2 жыл бұрын
@@matthewkuscienko4616 too bad it’s a dragon type in the generation that debuted fairies. One generation earlier and it would’ve been even better.
@MsGhoulz
@MsGhoulz 2 жыл бұрын
There's a massive problem with this typing and the fact that so many mons get EQ, and the ones it could potentially check get focus blast.
@stetsonherrick8090
@stetsonherrick8090 2 жыл бұрын
Is Focus Blast really going to be that huge of an issue when it's general Accuracy is 70% and feels like lower than that when any one side tries to use it? For how little people actually give Wide and Zoom Lens a chance to better the odds for such a strong base power move, it's a wonder they still keep trying when you only get 5 shots at it without PP Up usage.
@bulborb8756
@bulborb8756 Жыл бұрын
@@stetsonherrick8090 strong moves like focus blast do need to be balanced out with a drawback (lowering the user's stats, low accuracy or the like) sure focus blast is inaccurate as all hell at 70%, but it's worth going for that gamble due to the power this move has, also just because it's PP is 5, you can use PP Up's to increase it to a max of 8 uses
@Bernergy
@Bernergy 2 жыл бұрын
Everytime I watch an FSG video I get reminded how much I liked Pokemon Battle Revolution. Most animations look still good even till today. Especially Icebeam.
@SYKim_94
@SYKim_94 2 жыл бұрын
If Rampardos is a glass hammer, then Bastiodon is essentially a glass wall
@TheBestFormOfHumor
@TheBestFormOfHumor 2 жыл бұрын
A glass hammer would do literally nothing
@ShadowtheYouTuber523
@ShadowtheYouTuber523 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheBestFormOfHumor Shuckle: *cries in 20 HP and Stealth Rock*
@TheBestFormOfHumor
@TheBestFormOfHumor 2 жыл бұрын
@@ShadowtheKZfaqr523 pure agony
@ShadowDemiVeemon
@ShadowDemiVeemon 2 жыл бұрын
But for real I think making it steel ground could work if it has to be a dual type pokemon otherwise just keep it as a steel type
@ShadowtheYouTuber523
@ShadowtheYouTuber523 2 жыл бұрын
@@ShadowDemiVeemon would Steelix be able to get in its way if Bastiodon was half ground too?
@frankwest5388
@frankwest5388 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t get why Gamefreak gave so many slow defensive Pokémon, that are meant to take multiple hits Sturdy. It directly contradicts their gameplan, since it only does something when your defenses fail.
@OriginalGameteer
@OriginalGameteer 2 жыл бұрын
Something to remember, Sturdy only gained that trait in gen 5 Before that it prevented the pokemon from being affected by OHKO moves, so you can't really apply that logic to Bastiodon when it had the ability before Sturdy became what it is now.
@frankwest5388
@frankwest5388 2 жыл бұрын
@@OriginalGameteer they could have given him a better more fitting ability with the overhaul. Like solid rock or huge power (less than 60 atk, won’t be a problem)
@Entelarmer
@Entelarmer 2 жыл бұрын
@@frankwest5388 Did u check how much ATK Azu has before typing that?
@frankwest5388
@frankwest5388 2 жыл бұрын
@@Entelarmer 50. but Medichan with Pure Power (the exact same) has 60 Also it was hyperbolic
@funninoriginal6054
@funninoriginal6054 2 жыл бұрын
@@Entelarmer Tbf Azu is a powerhouse because it also gets Belly Drum, which boosts its attack to Deoxys-Attack levels of bullshit. Bastiodon only has curse and no priority, so it woudn't be that strong.
@funnycat4241
@funnycat4241 2 жыл бұрын
Bastiodon in normal pvp: Meh Bastiodon in Pokemon Go pvp: One of the best pokemon around
@8squared007
@8squared007 2 жыл бұрын
How GOOD was Mantine Actually? It’d be interesting to see how a special counterpart to Skarmory would fare.
@sarasaland4709
@sarasaland4709 2 жыл бұрын
Poor thing didn’t even get Roost until Gen 7. At least it became good after finally receiving it.
@nerdstop5025
@nerdstop5025 2 жыл бұрын
​@@sarasaland4709 wait... it DIDNT?!?
@unknownuser494
@unknownuser494 2 жыл бұрын
Here a random topic I always thought that mantine is introduced in gen 4 not gen 2.
@Dr.Barber
@Dr.Barber 2 жыл бұрын
Excuse me Mantine was meant to be the counterpart to Skarmory?
@sarasaland4709
@sarasaland4709 2 жыл бұрын
@@nerdstop5025 Yeah. Even though Skarmory had it since Gen 4.
@bdt2002gaming
@bdt2002gaming 2 жыл бұрын
I think it’s cool that we got Roark’s dad’s ace on Father’s Day. Who was the Mother’s Day video for again? Edit: It was Delphox and Snivy, who coincidentally tend to fall more on the feminine side anyways
@MrGatsu
@MrGatsu 2 жыл бұрын
At least Aggron had a good attack stat along with rockhead+head smash to hit hard, and when it got its mega, it fixed the issues and became one of the best tanks in UU with some OU viability.
@randomuser693
@randomuser693 2 жыл бұрын
**Looks at the length** **Sweats nervously**
@zacharyzorua9961
@zacharyzorua9961 2 жыл бұрын
My bastidon had sturdy and metal burst, so cynthia in bdsp was a cakewalk
@lucygirl1111
@lucygirl1111 2 жыл бұрын
i love bastiodon and have fond memories of it unfortunatly despite it can learn a lot of tm's flamethrower, thunderbolt, but it really should have gotten the move of body press in gen 8
@szadowski
@szadowski 2 жыл бұрын
Shieldon and bastiodon will always be my favourite Pokémon. I always struggle to use one on play throughs but it's so rewarding when you beat a champion with one 😍
@Char1ieC
@Char1ieC 2 жыл бұрын
Bastiodon is one of my favourite designs, so I always feel like using it in any gen 4 playthrough...then I'm quickly reminded why I never keep it in my team.
@mjdxp5688
@mjdxp5688 2 жыл бұрын
Oh boy, this one's gonna be rough.
@acetrainerori7460
@acetrainerori7460 Жыл бұрын
Just imagine if this thing was a pure steel type with the filter ability.
@badz_val
@badz_val 2 жыл бұрын
If not remove the duel typing could also make him ground instead of rock. Maybe even buff his base hp from base 60 to 75 or even 80
@henrydawson8096
@henrydawson8096 2 жыл бұрын
The sad thing is if rampardos and bastidon swapped types, they'd both be better as a result
@PoisonFlower765
@PoisonFlower765 2 жыл бұрын
@@henrydawson8096 an offensive Pokemon gaining Steel and a defensive Pokemon losing Steel making both of them viable is really depressing.
@galvsparks6295
@galvsparks6295 2 жыл бұрын
It honestly doesn’t need hp, this thing in sheer bulk is actually bulkier than *toxapex* Bastiodon 60/168/138 Toxapex 50/152/142 This thing’s stats are able to accomplish stuff. The problem lies in everything else than it’s stats aka typing (awful defensively) movepool (lack of reliable recovery is a death sentence for almost any defensive mon) and abilities (it’s best one is sturdy which isn’t bad but on a defensive pokemon which should be designed to take at the very least one hit is pretty underwhelming) and funnily enough all these three points are ones where toxapex succeeds brilliantly
@randomsamurai3855
@randomsamurai3855 2 жыл бұрын
I always thought that bastidon was ground steel
@krumplin8992
@krumplin8992 2 жыл бұрын
Being completely outclassed by Probopass is a truly depressing place in the meta
@Zenith8896
@Zenith8896 2 жыл бұрын
Bastiodon needs the combo of Iron Defense and Body Press.
@skyrander
@skyrander 2 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure the Pokemon datamine confirmed it to get the move... so it such a nasty choice to not have it in the game xD
@Lotus_RT
@Lotus_RT 2 жыл бұрын
Also give it the Radical Red treatment on top of that: give it the Dauntless Shield ability
@noahpokeemon6503
@noahpokeemon6503 2 жыл бұрын
@@skyrander Bastiodon- gets body press before release That one developer that wasn't allowed to put +30 speed on rampardos -"and I took that personally"
@Zenith8896
@Zenith8896 2 жыл бұрын
@@Lotus_RT That would be epic if Bastiodon had Dauntless Shield. I'd use it.
@iantaakalla8180
@iantaakalla8180 2 жыл бұрын
And Bastiodon would probably still be bad with Dauntless Shield because it can be hit with common x4 super effective moves.
@JCBro-yg8vd
@JCBro-yg8vd 2 жыл бұрын
Bastiodon: You took everything from me! Probopass: I don't even know who you are.
@bgonzales817
@bgonzales817 2 жыл бұрын
Aggron outdoes both
@nixuniverse5240
@nixuniverse5240 2 жыл бұрын
The Mega Evolution potential with this thing was staring Game Freak right in the face & they still didn’t take it. Imagine a giant diamond monster with a metal face the shape of a castle. They could even base the castle on historical castles from whatever real world place the region would be based on.
@TheAstrobiologistOW
@TheAstrobiologistOW 2 жыл бұрын
I will always advocate for the creation of more Megas lol
@TheAstrobiologistOW
@TheAstrobiologistOW 2 жыл бұрын
I actually just remembered I made this stat concept a few years ago when my friend was attempting to make a simulator like Showdown but with a bunch of new Megas, items, abilities, etc: Rock/Steel Ability: Filter HP - 60 Attack - 75 Defense - 250 Special Attack - 25 Special Defense - 180 Speed - 5
@iantaakalla8180
@iantaakalla8180 2 жыл бұрын
It is because it was staring GameFreak in the face that they would never take that route of buffing Bastiodon. Megas, to them, are a route to make more popular already-popular Pokémon, highlight legendaries, and make redundant the Megas of Garchomp and Tyranitar.
@skullerclawerbandicoot7966
@skullerclawerbandicoot7966 2 жыл бұрын
But its not gen 3 mons
@stetsonherrick8090
@stetsonherrick8090 Жыл бұрын
@@iantaakalla8180 Looking back on this in hindsight, do you think GameFreak ever realized just how dumb and relatively pandering their choices were? So many others who really did need a massive leg up got screwed. Heck, even if move pools didn't get expanded as much for some others, at least a Mega would give some new ideas and life. And the ones that did get Mega Evolution like Salamence and Rayquaza were basically a statement that they wanted to turn the whole Mega situation into Nuclear Level Offense when there was already enough power floating around. Maybe Megas never continued more designs out of the shame of misusing the concept and the backlash of buffing the wrong Pokemon?
@D-S-G.
@D-S-G. 2 жыл бұрын
I love how that rampardos and bastiodon are by all means terrible in normal games but one of the most coveted in Pokemon Go, with Rampardos as one of the best rock type gym attackers and Bastiodon being a staple in Great League play.
@Rarest26
@Rarest26 2 жыл бұрын
At least Rampardos could do things sometimes. But this? There was no hope for Bastiodon. You know you failed as a Steel type when an ICE type is a better physical wall.
@randomtrainerx.3424
@randomtrainerx.3424 2 жыл бұрын
I actually like Bastiodon, but yeah they really didn't do much for it over the generations besides having high defenses.
@greendeli7874
@greendeli7874 2 жыл бұрын
Due to the length, I feel he’s going to be even worse than Rampardos
@hamishstewart5324
@hamishstewart5324 2 жыл бұрын
I’ll never understand why Gamefreak made mons that are busted in one stat but completely useless because all of their other stats suck.
@antoniogilromero1981
@antoniogilromero1981 2 жыл бұрын
I mean, Rampardos at least CAN´T use his attack due to his weaknesses, what´s Bastiodon´s excuse? (other than just being bad)
@galvsparks6295
@galvsparks6295 2 жыл бұрын
@@antoniogilromero1981 rock/steel, it’s that simple (also no reliable recovery also hurts a decent amount)
@iantaakalla8180
@iantaakalla8180 2 жыл бұрын
@@antoniogilromero1981 it’s excuse is everything but its stats. It has nothing but stats.
@dertydawgman2942
@dertydawgman2942 2 жыл бұрын
Steel + Rock is never a good combo* *unless you're Aggron and you have good abilities + a deep movepool to compensate
@parulaneja5777
@parulaneja5777 2 жыл бұрын
Aghron is also bad
@TheBestFormOfHumor
@TheBestFormOfHumor 2 жыл бұрын
That doesn't make it's typing better
@GravityIsFalling
@GravityIsFalling 2 жыл бұрын
Aggron sucks ass tho
@albabimam1114
@albabimam1114 2 жыл бұрын
Steel/Rock isn't a bad offensive combo, since it can make use of its 3 million resists to deal offensive pressure out in return. But unfortunately its always always on slow defensive walls, meaning it's potential is wasted
@gelamity
@gelamity 2 жыл бұрын
@@parulaneja5777 Not as bad as shuckle/ledian/bastiodon/rampardos lol
@JohnSmith-jd7my
@JohnSmith-jd7my 2 жыл бұрын
If it’s any consolation Bastiodon is a fantastic nuzlocke Pokémon in the games you can get it
@mintytheslime
@mintytheslime 2 жыл бұрын
Buff idea time. Firstly, give it more utility moves, like Spikes, Spikey Shield, & regift it Magnet Rise (it lost that move in BDSP). Secondly, nerf it’s Special Attack by 20 and move the over to HP, so it’s HP goes from 60 to 80, then gift it 30 points in Attack, so going from 52 to 82. Thirdly, give it a recovery move, specifically Slack Off. Fourthly, give it two new abilities (and drop soundproof). For the first ability, I’ll just spitball a name like “Shatterproof” or something that’d make Bastiodon immune to Fighting Moves. Secondly, give it Dauntless Shield because the thematic appropriateness is just too good to pass up. But if you don’t like the idea of it get Dauntless Shield because that’s Zamazenta’s thing, Stamina or Solid Rock works as well. Thank you for coming to my Ted Talk.
@gelamity
@gelamity 2 жыл бұрын
Bastiodon is my definition of a glass wall, and you cannot change that fact. Maybe except shuckle but its shuckle.
@vdd1001
@vdd1001 2 жыл бұрын
Shuckle is actually decent because of sticky web and being annoying with infestation and being able to take some attacks
@rossthemoss6827
@rossthemoss6827 2 жыл бұрын
@@vdd1001 And final gambit, encore, and not needing a focus sash to take a hit like other webbers, giving it versatility and ways to annoy mons that are suppose to stop it.
@Wildcatt1999
@Wildcatt1999 2 жыл бұрын
Bastiodon: I LOVE DEFENSE! *Gets OHKOed by Earthquake*
@blue-gw8xi
@blue-gw8xi 2 жыл бұрын
Both it and Rampardos REALLY need a mega evolution, where their strongest stats are buffed by 50% along with some rather decent speed. We already have Mega Steelix with massive defense and somewhat viable offense, so maybe give these two some nice buffs to make them better
@willow1601
@willow1601 2 жыл бұрын
Just a normal evolution should be fine. Or in the the new game with time manipulation remove the rock type from all of the fossil pokemon since I think canonically they have rock types because they are infused with rock in fossil form.
@TheYoshiman222
@TheYoshiman222 2 жыл бұрын
I've had good OU/UU success with Bastiodon in gen5/6. It is entirely prediction reliant, but I really liked using it as an anti-lead. If the starter was an attacker, Metal Burst and remove the fast sweeper starter. If the opponent was a setup, Stealth Rock and Roar. And most importantly, if the opponent was a setup lead, Magic Coat deflects it back. If they used spikes as setup I can even follow up with Stealth Rock or phase them our with Roar. Sturdy's Buff in Gen 5 helped out a lot alongside the terrible Rock/Steel type since BOTH resisted normal moves meaning fake-out leads did nothing against him as Leftovers could bring it back up to full. And those x4 are a blessing in disguise when you can neuter one of their powerful fighting or ground pokemon in a turn with Metal Burst and max EV HP. It did fail against focus sash, but I had priority moves to back it up. And against defoggers in gen 6, I usually had either a contrary pokemon to turn the evasion drop into a boost (which was usually banned in the form of no double team), or I could swap in Bisharp for a free +2 to it's attack with Defiant. (rapid spin was irrelevant since x4 resist to normal allowed me to use phasing against it). To me I could use it as essentially a 1-time counter against anything the opponent leads with, only losing out really to mold breaker pokemon like excadrill. It wasn't a good pokemon but it was one that perfectly fit my team, even more so than Probopass due to access to Metal Burst allowing it to take an opponent down with it while still being able to deal with opposing leads. If I had to change anything honestly... I would give it a mega evolution that boosts it's defenses and removes it's Rock weakness while giving it a new ability to redirect attacks/damage from it's allies in doubles. Just overall buff it's ability to tank a hit but allow that to apply to allies in doubles since I can't find any use for it there yet. Maybe a new ability that redirects attacks all the time to itself, or Friend Guard that use to be only on baby pokemon to boost it's allies defenses in general. What a good ability that perfectly applies to the shield pokemon who uses it's face to help protect it's young.
@milliondollarmistake
@milliondollarmistake 2 жыл бұрын
"Rock type isn't a bad defensive typing at all - far from it" Genuine question: outside of sandstorm when is Rock type good to have on a defensive Pokemon? Maybe if there was one that's part flying and had good defensive stats. Part Bug types too kinda? Replacing your weaknesses from Flying/Fire to Steel/Water is fine but losing your resistances to Ground/Fighting/Grass for the ability to only resist Normal/Poison? Ehh...
@TheOtherNeutrino
@TheOtherNeutrino 2 жыл бұрын
Combining it with Grass, a type that also has more weaknesses than any monotype, does wonders for the end result. Grass neutralises Rock's Water, Grass and Ground weakness while Rock neutralises Grass' Fire, Flying and Poison weakness leaving it with only 2 weaknesses from each type for a total of 4 normal weaknesses.
@RandalfElVikingo
@RandalfElVikingo 2 жыл бұрын
Fairy/Rock, Pure Rock, Rock/Fighting, Rock/Dragon and Rock/Grass are great defensive types.
@breloommaster12
@breloommaster12 2 жыл бұрын
Rock/Flying has seen use defensively for its resistance to the Flying + Ground combo. Rock's resistances to Fire and Normal have also been traditionally useful in the lower tiers
@rossthemoss6827
@rossthemoss6827 2 жыл бұрын
In higher tiers it’s utterly meh But in lower tiers the normal and flying resistance is really valuable
@DisplayThisOkay
@DisplayThisOkay 2 жыл бұрын
In Gen 1 when earthquake was the only ground move and nobody used fighting moves. Also Rock doesn't resit Poison for some reason.
@sagacious03
@sagacious03 2 жыл бұрын
Neat analysis video! Thanks for uploading!
@RegretMSTRPWN
@RegretMSTRPWN 2 жыл бұрын
Bastiodon needs a filter like ability. Make 4x effective moves only deal like 3 or 2.5x with that I could even see a weird ou niche if you needed a support Steel who wasn't weak to fire
@bladmun5718
@bladmun5718 2 жыл бұрын
One of my favorite mons… it’s even hard to use on casual play
@antoniogilromero1981
@antoniogilromero1981 2 жыл бұрын
F
@christianbuffum-robbins8904
@christianbuffum-robbins8904 2 жыл бұрын
Can't be worse than Rampardos, right? ...right? Ohhhh...
@luirromenjivar1390
@luirromenjivar1390 2 жыл бұрын
This is saddening, Bastiodon was my favorite fossil on Gen 4 :( I would buff it by giving it Solid Rock, it would keep having a X3 weakness to Fighting and Ground after the Solid Rock effect but it would also gain extra bulk vs water moves. Also buff the Atk stat to like 80, so it doesn't became so passive.
@gunnemesisxxx7039
@gunnemesisxxx7039 2 жыл бұрын
I have two words for you friend POWER TRICK
@goGothitaLOL
@goGothitaLOL 2 жыл бұрын
2:05 When FSG says Rock is not a bad *defensive* typing, he actually meant *offensive* (as it hits Fire, Flying, Ice, Bug) Defensively, Rock is just dogshit. It has 5 weakness (most of which are common like Water, Ground, Fighting, and even Steel) whiling half of it's 4 resistances (Fire, Flying, and then Normal and Poison lol) are nothing to right home about. It's no wonder nearly any slow ass rock-type (90 spe or less) are useless with the 1 outlier being T-Tar, and even then it's unreliable offensively too because of inaccurate STABs (Rock Slide, Stone Edge) or poorly distributed special STABs among rock-types (Power Gem) or 100% accurate but are just weak (Ancient Power and Smack Down)
@Ushiwakamaru_BAU_BAU
@Ushiwakamaru_BAU_BAU 2 жыл бұрын
If Bastiodon was outclassed just imagine the poor Shieldon
@SSBBPOKEFAN
@SSBBPOKEFAN 2 жыл бұрын
I'd imagine Eviolite makes Shieldon better. Don't quote me on that, just an assumption based on the likes of Dusclops and Chansey.
@Ace-ps8mw
@Ace-ps8mw 2 жыл бұрын
@@SSBBPOKEFAN it is not
@kizion7895
@kizion7895 2 жыл бұрын
since they obviously arent adding more megas, it would be cool to at least see both of these get a 3rd evo in their line. Bastiodon could go to something like 85hp/90atk/175def/30spa/150spd/10spe, keeping the typing it has but gaining an ability that works like the move flying press, where it choses its typing based on whats better for it, so instead of it being neutral to fire its resisted, 4x to ground/fighting? nope just 2x, i think it could go a long way to making it viable if not even busted with that stat distribution
@robinsimon4176
@robinsimon4176 2 жыл бұрын
so like solid rock? or multiscale even at not 100%?
@kizion7895
@kizion7895 2 жыл бұрын
@@robinsimon4176 not necesseraly no, multi scale halves all damage when at 100% and solid rock just makes the attack weaker, this new ability would mean that whaver evo it gets will either be, only rock, only steel, or both, depending on what move hit it, in a sense thats comparable to solid rock but not multi scale
@juanca2567
@juanca2567 2 жыл бұрын
Bastiodon needs the Body Press move to do something in a low tier, but it at least got Power Shift. But how will it play in Scarlet and Violet?
@Eltipoquevisteayer
@Eltipoquevisteayer 2 жыл бұрын
The most tragic thing of all it's that Metal Burst depends of your lost HP, which was very low so even if you took a hit and returned it, your damage output would be low
@stetsonherrick8090
@stetsonherrick8090 Жыл бұрын
Not exactly. Base 60 HP may only be so high, but that's not 100% the trick to Metal Bursting any given target. *The real trick to nailing your targets is in how high or low their HP is to yours by raw comparison! Especially if you max your own HP investment for good measure!* Take for example, Lucario for only having Base 70. It's low enough to actually lose flat out at full health. Gabite being another despite what we saw in the video at Base 68 HP is more than capable of losing outright as well. Between high base powers and the opponent's lower HP bases, you can still in fact nail them back. Metal Burst works because basically every majorly offensive target you face doesn't do HP investment and because Metal Burst doesn't struggle with type immunity.. If you tweak the math right, even targets like Garchomp can get flat out wrecked by Metal Burst. (This is in fact a common BDSP tactic to nail Garchomp to the wall. It might work in DP/Pl with a Focus Sash and the right timing.)
@nerddwarf
@nerddwarf 2 жыл бұрын
Counter: Deals 2× the damage taken. Only works on Physical moves Mirror Coat: Deals 2× the damage taken. Only works on Special moves Metal Burst: Deals 1.5× the damage taken. Works on all damage dealing moves. Bide: Wait 2 turns. Deals 2× the damage taken. Works on all damage dealing moves. Edit: Comeuppance: Deal's 1.5× the damage taken. Works on all damage dealing moves.
@naturalharmoniagropius4486
@naturalharmoniagropius4486 2 жыл бұрын
I think you mean Mirror Coat. Magic Coat just bounces back anything. From Taunt, to Toxic, to entry hazards
@nerddwarf
@nerddwarf 2 жыл бұрын
@@naturalharmoniagropius4486 Thank-you very much Was aware of the difference, just wrote down the wrong one
@stetsonherrick8090
@stetsonherrick8090 Жыл бұрын
Too bad Bastiodon doesn't get Bide. Maybe with some Baton Passed Defense boosts, it could really wreck some stuff. Maybe give it a Red Card to take a huge hit, Survive from Sturdy and force a switch to further screw your opponent's momentum?
@TripleCx3
@TripleCx3 2 жыл бұрын
Finally I have been waiting for this video for years holy crap let’s f-ing gooooo!!!!!!!!!!
@Pine.appl.e
@Pine.appl.e 2 жыл бұрын
Was it worth it?
@TripleCx3
@TripleCx3 2 жыл бұрын
@@Pine.appl.e yes
@Pine.appl.e
@Pine.appl.e 2 жыл бұрын
@@TripleCx3 that’s good
@noonesfang131
@noonesfang131 2 жыл бұрын
Shieldon was one of my favorites to us in LC a while back, with berry juice and mirror coat. Most the time people would just try to one shot with a 4x effective move, it would love from sturdy one shot them and heal to full from berry juice.
@dylanogg347
@dylanogg347 Жыл бұрын
There is some amazing irony in this situation. While Steel is one of the best defensive types, Rock is one of the best offensive types. You'd think that'd give Bastiodon perfect balance. But this shouldn't be a surprise, after all, Aggron has the same typing, but he drops one of them (Rock) when he Mega Evolves. He wasn't just on to something, he knew what was coming. Plus it helps that Aggron's move-pool is pretty dang diverse.
@spinceiling7442
@spinceiling7442 2 жыл бұрын
Gotta give props to Pokémon go for having different stats and battle system. Basti is actually top tier in that game lol
@TalkingVidya
@TalkingVidya 2 жыл бұрын
Ah yes, rock types getting shafted by gf, my favorite
@leojamesquiambao1047
@leojamesquiambao1047 2 жыл бұрын
What can we say? GF hates rocks as much as they love fairies
@thejigglypuffclefairycompa9033
@thejigglypuffclefairycompa9033 2 жыл бұрын
@@leojamesquiambao1047 They also hate Ice-types and Bugs too
@iantaakalla8180
@iantaakalla8180 2 жыл бұрын
Unless the Bugs are Unovan or Alolan bugs, or the Ice types are Weavile, Alolan Ninetales, or Calyrex-Ice Rider (though Glastrier is just as good if you have redirectors).
@thejigglypuffclefairycompa9033
@thejigglypuffclefairycompa9033 2 жыл бұрын
@@iantaakalla8180 or Mamoswine, Heracross or Scizor
@leojamesquiambao1047
@leojamesquiambao1047 2 жыл бұрын
@@thejigglypuffclefairycompa9033 not as much as rocks. But yeah
@salsathemonkey22
@salsathemonkey22 2 жыл бұрын
I really liked the list video! Since you're asking the Smash histories were cool. You could also give histories on notable players, not just Pokemon
@JustJulyo
@JustJulyo 2 жыл бұрын
This channel's set up for a Pokémon's major disappointment in competitive battles always brings a smile to my face
@alolanvulpix2848
@alolanvulpix2848 2 жыл бұрын
YES MY FAVORITE POKEMON!!!!!!!! Thank you false swipe gaming!! I know it sucks, but I still love him.
@antoniogilromero1981
@antoniogilromero1981 2 жыл бұрын
Amen
@NanaKyoto
@NanaKyoto 2 жыл бұрын
Bastiodon is usually depicted as this large, immovable wall, unfortunately, as the generations went on, this wall would be moved further and further downhill. Now, with it in untiered, it has nowhere to move, but we will hope it gets something helpful soon enough.
@AlexLee-je5jg
@AlexLee-je5jg 2 жыл бұрын
i hope it gets body press
@iantaakalla8180
@iantaakalla8180 2 жыл бұрын
It is an immovable wall. It never moved from being useless, and it will stand there amidst the useless for all time.
@AdmiralRamirez7
@AdmiralRamirez7 2 жыл бұрын
I remember when I first got one in pearl. It was fun to use in the story not anywhere else.
@splitsee2526
@splitsee2526 2 жыл бұрын
Good timing since the Pokemon Go Adventure Event ended a few days ago, featuring Shieldon as one of the two pokemon that was featured in an exclusive 1 day event for them 2. (The other one was Cranidos)
@ladaas9528
@ladaas9528 2 жыл бұрын
And in Pokemon GO, it is actually amazing.
@pieoverlord
@pieoverlord 2 жыл бұрын
"Now Rock is not a bad defensive typing at all..." That's news to me.
@stetsonherrick8090
@stetsonherrick8090 Жыл бұрын
As it sits purely, Rock by itself resists Normal, Flying, Poison and Fire. It's not honestly that unworkable.
@drakefire6675
@drakefire6675 2 жыл бұрын
This thing makes me so sad. It's based on one of my favorite species of Dinosaurs, and its design is really cool. I love Bastiodon so much, and yet it's so terrible it's really really sad.
@MrSpiceCabinet
@MrSpiceCabinet 2 жыл бұрын
I would love to see an episode about Pangoro
@Weebabuu
@Weebabuu 2 жыл бұрын
Bastiodon: You think you're better than me?! Probopass: i am better than you
@Laserbeak316
@Laserbeak316 2 жыл бұрын
I’m hoping one day that Gamefreak makes another Ceratopsian Fossilmon in a future Gen. Only it’d be offensive rather than defensive. But not be a glass cannon like Rampardos.
@asuddenredfox3626
@asuddenredfox3626 2 жыл бұрын
Was wondering when this would come out given we got Rampardos a while back
@hexbug101
@hexbug101 2 жыл бұрын
If you can keep hazards off the field metal burst being a counter that works on both groups of moves is fun to mess around with
@makhseed
@makhseed 2 жыл бұрын
I love this pokemon so much, I tried using it play throughs but he was just weak to every single damn type man! The only thing he could deal with was birds and bugs
@danieldragotti2608
@danieldragotti2608 6 ай бұрын
We now live in a time line where basterdon is in a higher tier them terrakion and Emboar...
@gregorymirabella1423
@gregorymirabella1423 5 ай бұрын
Ofc it is, it can actually attack now.
@CocoLocoToco
@CocoLocoToco 2 жыл бұрын
How GOOD was Escavalier ACTUALLY? Im lurking in the shadows...and wait.
@CocoLocoToco
@CocoLocoToco 2 жыл бұрын
Would also fit with Bastiodon,the castle,since he is a knight
@robertpresley1503
@robertpresley1503 2 жыл бұрын
I've been waiting for this ever since he did Rampardos.
@somebloke9067
@somebloke9067 2 жыл бұрын
I think that by giving both Bastiodon and Rampardos an evolution, Bastiodon gets a mono steel typing upon evolution and Rampardos’ evolution gets a slight defence buff
@fulgenzio89
@fulgenzio89 5 ай бұрын
and now with Body Press and Tera it is tearing up OU 😢
@bsleepysneezer2497
@bsleepysneezer2497 2 жыл бұрын
Fun fact had Shieldon/Bastoiodon on my team in Pearl once. Had some issues near the beginning and the end (take down sucks on a mon like this), but it was pretty fun overall and was a good addition to the team.
@blaacksugar7714
@blaacksugar7714 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like not all types started existing at once. Most if the prehistoric pokemon are weak to fighting, which might explain them barely existing in the first place as well as there being no prehistoric fighting pokemon.
@evanmcdaniel8341
@evanmcdaniel8341 2 жыл бұрын
Yay, I’ve been waiting for this one
@RedDragonForce2
@RedDragonForce2 2 жыл бұрын
Being denied from Galar, he is also denied the incredibly power Fighting Coverage, *Body* Press, which would’ve given it offensive potential. To make it better, increase HP by 20 and give it Heavy Press!!
@creativelybankrupt23
@creativelybankrupt23 2 жыл бұрын
Body Press, not Heavy Press
@ExcalibeonSwordofEeveelutions
@ExcalibeonSwordofEeveelutions 2 жыл бұрын
*Body Press
@Hnui03
@Hnui03 2 жыл бұрын
my first thought seeing that title was just: "Oh no..."
@varuhash50
@varuhash50 2 жыл бұрын
Bastiodon really needs to get a buff. Mega, new gimmick, whatever, id be happy if it got Body Press so it can be offensive AND defensive, but the double 4x weaknesses really screwed it up
@rundas2141
@rundas2141 Жыл бұрын
With some arguably Dinosaur looking Pokemon coming into Scarlet/Violet, imagine if they add the Dinosaur type, and gave it to Bastiodon in place of rock. Depending on the weaknesses/resistances, maybe this might make Bastiodon better.
@RedDragonForce2
@RedDragonForce2 2 жыл бұрын
I think the only reason they gave Aerodactyl a Mega was because of two reasons. One: It wasn’t version exclusive prior to post game. Two: It was a one-stage Pokémon while all others are Two-Stage. (Minus Galar, but do they really count the same way??)
@theshankpain2228
@theshankpain2228 2 жыл бұрын
Plus it was a Kanto Mon
@RedDragonForce2
@RedDragonForce2 2 жыл бұрын
@@theshankpain2228 so are Kabus and Omans, but they have two-stage and you can only choose one or the other. Aerodactyl is just free if you want it.
@theshankpain2228
@theshankpain2228 2 жыл бұрын
@@RedDragonForce2 some Mon are exclusive to different versions and got 1 while the other didn’t. Beedrill got a mega and butter free didn’t. There were 15(mewtwo and charizard got 2 forms)megas out of 46. That’s 6 gens of Pokémon and a third we’re from gen 1. Not counting others like steelix and scizor which evolved from gen 1 Pokémon in gen 2.
@RedDragonForce2
@RedDragonForce2 2 жыл бұрын
@@theshankpain2228 I’m talking fossils specifically. If they are not fossils, they have a different criteria.
@theshankpain2228
@theshankpain2228 2 жыл бұрын
@@RedDragonForce2 What you said is correct but it’s also a gen 1 Pokémon. Gen 1 were the main receivers of megas.
@mipho5899
@mipho5899 2 жыл бұрын
Without competition, Bastiodon is most likely the single worst steel type competitively. Also why did you not call the video bad? Maractus who had actual vgc niches or Bastiodon who had nothing?
@pokeoh1831
@pokeoh1831 2 жыл бұрын
Maractus pfp:
@rabeechowdhury
@rabeechowdhury 2 жыл бұрын
cause Bastiodon is a steel type with actual switch ins.
@mipho5899
@mipho5899 2 жыл бұрын
@@rabeechowdhury You seemingly didn't got my point. Bastiodon never had anywhere a niche, neither singles where it was consistently outclassed or straight up bad or vgc where Pokemon like Stakataka just laugh about you. While Maractus the same fate in singles, had legit VGC niches in gen 5 and 8 respectively despite big competition from the single best Chlorophyll user, while Bastiodon can't even compete with Probopass who fun fact is also unusable in VGC. I didn't compared them in how they work, just Maractus had more use cases than Bastiodon. Comparing them is like saying Water and Air is the same thing. Also what's the point of being a switch in if you can't do anything after that.
@galvsparks6295
@galvsparks6295 2 жыл бұрын
@@pokeoh1831 that still doesn’t undermine the fact that Bastiodon is worse than maractus competitively (oh and design too but that’s subjective)
@pokeoh1831
@pokeoh1831 2 жыл бұрын
@@galvsparks6295 I know but it's funny that the Maractus pfp is defending the Maractus
@FinalFrantasy
@FinalFrantasy 2 жыл бұрын
Red Card with metal burst on this guy is so much fun. Just completely punish a random pokemon on their team
@stetsonherrick8090
@stetsonherrick8090 Жыл бұрын
Not to mention flat out botching the momentum. If you got clever with Wish and/or Healing Wish and had no entry hazards for your side, you could fire off multiple shots if they run hyper offense.
@ChadBeetle
@ChadBeetle 2 жыл бұрын
i remember when the probopass video came out and thinking that there’s no way a mon with those stats could be so bad. i stand corrected.
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