1:13:46 As an American hearing this part of the convo it’s clear that there’s a misunderstanding of what Kendrick meant. And many Americans feel the same way. Drake STEALS peoples original styles, sounds, etc. It’s not about a moment or damned if you do damned if you don’t. It’s that he uses and disposes of people like a used tissue when they’ve outlived their usefulness. And he uses them for what he lacks CULTURE and COOL factor. Most recent and small example Smino amazing smaller rapper has had HIS OWN style for years now: natural hair and barrettes. Drake stole that for his most recent “era”. He does it to everyone and the lucky ones are the ones that he formed a relationship with where he can go back to use them more than once like the ATL trappers. 21 to make him sound hard and hood, Future to him sound cool and reach the strippers and clubs etc. That’s cultural currency that he uses to propel himself while never actually doing anything FOR the culture. Someone using another’s cultural currency makes him a culture vulture or as Kendrick best put it a COLONIZER
@SK-kp2qq3 ай бұрын
Big up yaself
@user-tz2yp5jl2w3 ай бұрын
Thank you for putting it that, esp. with the Smino example
@Nyeb20023 ай бұрын
I wish everyone can see this before talking about this topic! Genuinely the cultural disconnect is so apparent when non Americans or non African Americans speak. It has nothing to do with drake’s jewish or mixed identity, which Kendrick made clear when he said Adonis was “a black man,” which for me is debatable but that’s not my business 😂
@fizzychizzy3 ай бұрын
@@Nyeb2002 Right. He said that little boy with blue eye who is a quarter black at the most was a Black man. Kendrick don't care about race at all. It was about the culture and behavior.
@fizzychizzy3 ай бұрын
EXACTLY. Why do Future and Drake have beef? There has to be several factors but I think Drake's collaboration with 21 Savage is part of it. Future clearly felt some type of way because he was a long-time collaborator with Drake, even working with him for a whole album. But Future feels like Drake essentially discarded him to work with 21 Savage. both from Atlanta. Both made music that appealed to the streets and the clubs. Future is THE BIGGEST rapper when it comes to Atlanta. Instead of working with him, Drake chose 21 Savage who would have been Future competition because 21 Savage is younger/appealing to younger people. He just moved on to the next guy not thinking about his older relationships.
@acdc24683 ай бұрын
You know who’s Jewish, grew up in Beverly Hills, and was IMMERSED in gangsta rap for DECADES, and NEVER has been accused of being a 'Culture Vulture' -- The Alchemist. Why do you think that is? Authenticity and a clear devotion to the culture. The problem with Drake was that he aligned himself with culTures and sounds from places that he has no affiliation with for monetary gains and false credibility. People seen how he's moved for the last decade and that's where all the "resentment" or "rejection" comes from. His disingenuity was called out and resonated with way more people than his arrogance thought it would.
@CharleneWithrowАй бұрын
Bingo
@justinwilson73333 ай бұрын
Kendrick was never an underdog! Thats the frustrating thing 😂 I listen to both Drake and Kendrick. Kendrick was always had the hit making ability of Drake he’s just chooses to make music about things that are personal to him which is not always going to be relatable to large commercial audience
@merrekeste33853 ай бұрын
💯💯
@ne33713 ай бұрын
Facts
@thebizness55963 ай бұрын
Facts and that’s why Kendrick has and will always been the superior artist.
@Theyaintlikeus8all3 ай бұрын
because the audience he rapping to is the actual culture not walmart and target shoppers. i know that they dont want to her we want revenge or reperations in walmart while shopping
@yomamma.ismydaddy2162 ай бұрын
Yeah I can’t believe drake initiated this lol especially after Kendrick very clearly warned him on euphoria. I guarantee drake really really regrets releasing family matters
@Hestia903 ай бұрын
People dont want to put respect on Kendrick's name, but his accomplishments are up there with Drake. ● 17 grammys to Drakes 5 ● Pulitzer Prize for Damn ● Longest charting hip-hop album in billboard history 11.5 years GKMC ● Highest grossing hip-hop tour in history with the Big Steppers tour ● 3 out of his 5 albums are classics where Drake has released 13 albums & only 3 or 4 are classics, most of which have an * next to them because of the 👻 writers. Take Care is his best body of work & The Weeknd pretty much wrote that for him. Drake can try to son him all he wants, but that doesn't. Kendrick just doesn't brag, he be inside.
@stephaniecrosby52943 ай бұрын
Well said, fam
@dontayz993 ай бұрын
The Grammys are politics so I don’t count them. Same with the Pulitzer. But Kendrick is still that guy, I just don’t think he needs the awards to validate why he’s iconic
@Hestia903 ай бұрын
The Grammys I will give you, but you don't put yourself up for a Pulitzer. The BOARD decides if you should get 1.
@jeff-ns2pr3 ай бұрын
Kendrick is a way better rapper than bbl drizzy who used ghostwriters
@thebizness55963 ай бұрын
@@dontayz99they don’t just give out Pulitzers. Hence why the only hip hop artist to get one is Kendrick.
@Flamboy09113 ай бұрын
this is the Pod everyone was waiting for
@LondonEventClips3 ай бұрын
Drake thoght "Family matters" would be the ko. Hence him repeating "ya dead" at the end. Can't imagine how he reacted when "meet the grahams" dropped less than an hour later
@nameisamine3 ай бұрын
I’m still in shock that he thought defeating Kendrick Lamar would be easy. Hubris.
@thebizness55963 ай бұрын
He cried and fired the ghostwriters
@scarzwr3 ай бұрын
Family Matters is actually a banger but not a diss hood beat and catchy flow. Kendrick bodied him
@kaydee14853 ай бұрын
You can see, that's why he kept on the family angle, he was trying to walk Kendrick into it because he thought that track would be enough. But he had issues creating more lines and narratives about the info. A seasoned rapper could stretch that info into a good 10 mins if needed, but he kept bringing other artists into it. And for someone with writers that was appalling.
@sillynamereally3 ай бұрын
with that 2009 i promise i do drill flow 😩😩😩😩 if his voice wasnt so painful i may have cared what he was saying, i couldnt even play it to the end
@lionheartfitness48763 ай бұрын
“No, you not a colleague, you a fuckin’ colonizer.” Is one of the greatest lines in rap history because it’s the truth. *
@lionheartfitness48763 ай бұрын
“You rapping like you’re trying to free the slaves.” 🤦🏽♂️ That Kendrick flip was legendary.
@raymonds74922 ай бұрын
The idea that black Americans needed him to make music is most colonizer thing I’ve ever heard of. Wade In The Water is world famous and slaves made it.
@SwaggaSmashed3 ай бұрын
Family Matters was hard! But after hearing meet the grahams In the whip I had to park up and sit in silence for a few mins to deep it.
@SK-kp2qq3 ай бұрын
Felt like a funeral fr
@thebizness55963 ай бұрын
It was mad. The whole aura to the tune, the bars, the tone of voice and how he talked to his whole family was pure Kendrick.
@CriPPleR_HD3 ай бұрын
Kendrick did not say a name out of respect for the child. No where in this battle did Kendrick disrespect anyone that did not deserve it. Meet the Graham’s uplifted the kids while tearing down Drake. That is the brilliance of it.
@user-sk5xp9xv2w3 ай бұрын
That analogy of being in the club and slapping a dude absolutely found its target 😂😂😂... Kendrick is a psycho and Drake became oblivious due to his arrogance 💯💯
@courtney021619803 ай бұрын
Glad to see Mitch is more a student of Rap than Akademiks and Mal. Mal was jumping out the window his melt down was so bad.
@raymonds74922 ай бұрын
Mal, ish and Ak should have a podcast about Drake and OVO. They shouldn’t talk about hip hop.
@jpnt173 ай бұрын
When you guys talk about “being an outsider”, that is something every region in America outside of New York had to experience. The difference is LA didn’t try to sound like New York, Atlanta, Memphis, Houston, Miami, didn’t try to sound like New York. They crafted and developed their own sounds and let the world catch up. He never took over Toronto as a local artist. He’s cultural couch surfing from city to city, from style to style. When you say what was he supposed to do, the answer is be a champion for your own city FIRST. Where is the Toronto swag? Where is the Toronto slang? Don’t even wear a blue jays hat. Rap is a regional art form with a global platform and he approached it and himself like a product and the artistry passed him by.
@sgeyette79153 ай бұрын
The way mitch is describing how unprepared drake was is killing me 😭😭😭
@berny30563 ай бұрын
Drake was prepared he just wasn’t good enough and didn’t know who he was dealing with
@witfurd10343 ай бұрын
@@berny3056 if drake was prepared, he'd be telling the truth about the fake mole. and if he was telling the truth about that, he'd post texts/audio taps proving OVO faked it. expcept he hasn't. he's clearly a crybaby that doesn't understand morals or when to stop lying.
@mickelllindsay95393 ай бұрын
@@berny3056 doesn’t that prove he wasn’t prepared
@coobebeatz3 ай бұрын
Drake thought he was going to dog walk Lamar. How do you defeat a man whose team are 😅n competition with themselves. Word to HC pod
@T.O323 ай бұрын
@@coobebeatzfacts them TDE boys are next levels
@denniswaweru93403 ай бұрын
You cannot call out the one guy labelled "the boogeyman" and then just expect the response to be a muck-about. It almost felt like Drake wanted this beef to be a light entertainment for everyone without knowing who Kendrick really is and what hip hop culture means to him. Kendrick came in the ring wanting blood!! There's a reason why he called out everyone in 2013 and no one responded. Kendrick had producers lined up from early and the best move he made was the way he released "Meet The Grahams". The way he stumped out Family Matters instantly was how we won it imo
@mil10423 ай бұрын
EXACTLY!!
@normanjohnson65693 ай бұрын
Yeah Kendrick doesnt have 20 ghost writers either
@kaikoroma40723 ай бұрын
Nicely put
@joshlawson1113 ай бұрын
Lol that's why J.Cole moonwalked out of this situation 😅
@twest55812 ай бұрын
That is not how he won it, kendrick beat him in every way when it comes to real battle rap. Battle rap is about disrespect and kendrick killed him.
@kelvinsekwati40163 ай бұрын
Man kendrick truly has quotables from this beef so many lines that will be said years from now that will jog the memory. Truly a all time beef and win by dot
@mohamedfahad23643 ай бұрын
"Beat yo ass and hide the Bible if God watching" 😂
@AnimeVillageAMV3 ай бұрын
IS IT THE BRAIDSSSSSS!
@fangal123 ай бұрын
@@AnimeVillageAMV I said that to my son this weekend when he forgot to take the trash out😂
@goreyfantod52132 ай бұрын
To be fair, Drake has, "I was really, really tryin' to keep it PG." I can't get that corny shit out of my head, but it does make me chuckle.
@scratchydemus2 ай бұрын
@goreyfantod5213 Yh the PG line makes me laugh. Also Drake saying "Pipe down pipsqueak" made me chuckle too. 😂😂😂
@LondonEventClips3 ай бұрын
A part of me believes Drake kept going at multiple people so that he'd have a ready made excuse for if he loses. He could always say "Everyone was going at me, it wasn't one on one"
@tatenda27063 ай бұрын
Facts and I don’t believe he had enough ammo for Kendrick no wonder he spent half of family matters dissing irrelevant people like Weeknd, Future, Rozay and Metro just to make filler bars, he only dissed Kendrick for probably 2 minutes
@Jahvo.3 ай бұрын
@@tatenda2706 thats even more pussy tbh he went at weaker opponents for light sneak disses but kept it light when Kendrick openly disrespects you with name drops and personal shots smh
@mrD66M3 ай бұрын
So that raises the question (for Drake) why was everyone going against him. Ok Dude lacks the self awareness to think like that but he MUST KNOW that when you sit at the top for a while you become a target. Ni66a did not cover his a$$, in fact it seems he only kept making more enemies
@mrD66M3 ай бұрын
What you do if you grew up in the hood and a bunch of losers are ganging up on you? You go HAM on the biggest / strongest one, the leader. Leave a mark on that SOB that he won't forget. That's what you do. Don't waste your time on the flunkeys and stooges. If you lose, you at least will be acknowledged as a brave MF that should be left alone from then on, as someone who's not fun to play with. If you win, you gain the respect of every single one of em Drake lacks the "hood mentality".
@dansillyman3 ай бұрын
Kendrick restored balance in the hiphop universe. He showed that you cannot deny the authentic greatness. He got the whole world signing and dancing to a song calling Drake a pedo 😂 how do you come back from that? KDot is the GOAT!
@MalikMoorBeatz3 ай бұрын
With the cover art being Drakes House 🏠 is crazy. He did him dirty on that one
@LondonEventClips3 ай бұрын
Drake's fatal mistake was mentioning Kendrick's bm.
@stephanmbenti28553 ай бұрын
Which he hasn’t denied Puting hands on.. so there was no mistake but we miss toke and declared Kendrick the winner
@tatenda27063 ай бұрын
@@stephanmbenti2855he doesn’t have to deny anything, sometimes denying allegations actually makes you look more guilty, do you know how double negatives work ?
@LondonEventClips3 ай бұрын
@@stephanmbenti2855 he hasn't had to, because it doesn't align with how the public perceives him. It was a mistake by Drake because he's more of an open book than Kendrick. So Kendrick would have more ammo on him
@MAYOROFTURBOCITY3 ай бұрын
@@LondonEventClips Kendrick’s last album was a whole open book.
@tatenda27063 ай бұрын
@@LondonEventClips thank you, took the words right out of my mouth, Kendrick lives a private life no wonder on 6:16 he had the bar “you put money in the streets came back with no receipts I’m sorry I live a boring life” Whilst Drake be posting on internet everyday, nigga is always online posting stories and DM’s peoples girls and shit
@SinisterAnimationS3 ай бұрын
drake thinks he is superman and Kendrick understands he needs to be like batman who has a contingency plan to kill every superhero incase they ever went rogue
@raymonds74922 ай бұрын
He’s a superman cosplayer. Featuring with Future on Like That cut him off from his Atlanta talent source. Notice how he talked about future on Family Matters.
@saaidmohamoud20033 ай бұрын
"Don't think the Chinese aren't ready for mandem" 😂😂😂
@adamlambert10323 ай бұрын
The wildest line w no context 😭😭😭
@MsDarkie933 ай бұрын
@@adamlambert1032those who know know
@AnimeVillageAMV3 ай бұрын
@@adamlambert1032 basically if America or any other country wanted smoke, China would be war ready! They aren’t just comfortable sitting back, not prepared
@Nunofyabizzzzz3 ай бұрын
Cool to see Mitch isn’t as bad as Akademics and the like. He’s pretty objective
@stephaniecrosby52943 ай бұрын
AKademics is a paid Stan, Mitch is objective.
@benja3033 ай бұрын
@@stephaniecrosby5294 idk why yall think drake would have to pay ak for what he has been doing for free for 10+ years
@geo35403 ай бұрын
OvHoe Mitch is here
@kaysheye77843 ай бұрын
I still don't understand that OvHoe stuff. Is it an insult towards OVO?
@joshdunnett47103 ай бұрын
Fr 😂 Mitch is a good guy though man
@ae0ns3 ай бұрын
@@kaysheye7784yes lol
@vicstone88173 ай бұрын
13:20 He just admitted that Kendrick won lol
@thedoncjg62633 ай бұрын
@@kaysheye7784if you couldn’t figure that out for yourself that is genuinely concerning
@Jules100343 ай бұрын
Honestly Mitch’s analysis of drakes mistakes in this battle are hands down the best I’ve heard.
@courtney021619803 ай бұрын
Not like Us was recent because Kendrick mentions Drake doubled down calling black Americans “slaves”….he walked right into being called a colonizer
@Gloey94704Ай бұрын
"A minoooooooor" is also a response to "Dave Freeeeeeeh" from Drake's Family Matters. So the song has lots of parts that are fresh.
@michaelandreou49963 ай бұрын
They not like us is a certified smash. I have not stop playing that tune since it came out.
@berny30563 ай бұрын
Drake definitely saw Kendrick on his level this is why he’s salty about Kendrick winning awards and how much respect the culture gave him when Drake essentially had to buy it
@Jahvo.3 ай бұрын
for sure dont know what mitch talking about lol its a reason he was begging for a response after push ups
@Nyeb20023 ай бұрын
Nah if you peep the “disses” Drake threw at Kendrick, he thought he was playing with Meek. Someone without cultural impact or with less hits. As an American, Mitch hit it right on the nail. From his taunting to less than in depth lyrics, Drake was Ill prepared and it boils down to a lack of respect.
@JGreen-tz6km3 ай бұрын
Every time Mitch talks I remember why i like (pause) this brudda!!!
@AnonYmous-lx2fu3 ай бұрын
He’s easily the most qualified to discuss this beef out of all the HC regulars
@AnimeVillageAMV3 ай бұрын
Resume
@user-tz2yp5jl2w3 ай бұрын
You really don’t need to pause, it’s safe g
@roidjones3 ай бұрын
Mitch was very objective, credit to him
@sillynamereally3 ай бұрын
He knows he was super glazing first go round (and i hate that glazing buzz word) but he was waaaay to passionate for us not to know his love for drake was deeper than music, drake actually represented him as a person. This is a learning period for all drake fans. i cant call anyone a student of the game who rates drake highly.
@S.Mahmud013 ай бұрын
The biggest aspect of Drake that generates dislike or hate from the culture and pure hip-hop fans is his pretentiousness. He is not from the streets and has seen nothing, why pretend to be a hard man when clearly he is not? He may find the culture fascinating, nothing wrong with that, but why pretend to be that? Authenticity is a major part of Hip-hop culture.
@djRUNT3 ай бұрын
for the record, kendrick has bigged up simz and it feels inevitable that they work together
@thebizness55963 ай бұрын
Shes another real artist. Modern day Lauryn Hill.
@mrD66M3 ай бұрын
I was thinking exactly this, she is kinda the female version of him, London slang down pat but very connected to her Naija roots. KDot must've heard her spittin' Venom
@michael435673 ай бұрын
1:08:44 No. But Drake should probably have some sort of relationship with them. Drake really jumped from Skepta to Dave to Giggs to Headie One to J Hus to Central Cee. Seems he cares about who has the hype more than actually developing meaningful music relationships. Comes off as a phoney
@raymonds749216 күн бұрын
Drake is the walmart ethnic food isle of music. They have the most popular foods from other cultures. If you saw someone who actually has their own culture (like kendrick) moving this way it would be weird but its normal behavior for whites.
@Pyromaniac9633 ай бұрын
He lost when he said he can’t be a pedi because he’s famous
@nightArbitrage3 ай бұрын
😂😂 Prince Andrew has stepped in the chat.
@DRGN-TYPE3 ай бұрын
Nobody in these pods wanna say it could be true because they're hoping to get that Drake interview in the future.
@Jahvo.3 ай бұрын
when he stepped over family matters then dropped 'NOT LIKE US' on saturday and the way it INSTANTLY blew up yeah game over 🤣
@sillynamereally3 ай бұрын
he lost when he used that 2009 i swear im a driller flow, no one cared what drake was saying because of his performance below, how can you sound exactly the same as your songs when angry 😂 people are tired of his songs and here he comes with the same shit 😂
@akiret31133 ай бұрын
Nah. He lost when Kendrick said "ahem"
@jesstwu69113 ай бұрын
The best commentary I’ve heard from the UK regarding the beef ! You explored many points and remained objective opposed to other podcasts !!🙌🏽
@courtney021619803 ай бұрын
Where Kendrick got him was when he represented where he was from and Drake could not do that, that’s why They Not Like Us hit so hard!!!
@toocre8tive3 ай бұрын
Kendrick did "Ether" and "hit em up" on Drake in the space of 2 days. with "Meet the Grahams" and "Not Like Us". Meet the Grahams is the most disrespectful diss track, and Not Like Us is the most commercial diss track.
@TheAlkebulanTrust3 ай бұрын
Facts or undeniable facts?...K Dot vs BBL Drizzy has to be arguably one of the best Rap Battles on a mainstream level in history. Just based on that one weekend that changed it all. Good to see real lyricists like Kendrick Lamar win convincingly. He tried every style possible and then the finisher is the club banger Not Like Us. Even Drake sounded defeated in The Heart Part 6 that he was even contradicting himself 🤣...the real always win. One way or the other.
@mvmt9143 ай бұрын
Kendrick has worked with Lil Simz
@awake36073 ай бұрын
Mitch what people are saying is that Drake jumps on people who are rising just for himself (and he jumps into their culture and jumps off). No one knows who he is because he cosplays as that culture. If he worked with them and been himself (not adopting accents and such) or found people who were good and not already rising but put them on (while being himself) I don't think anyone would be upset with him. The lack of Authenticity and paying homage bothers people. He actually fixed his mouth to say Kendrick rap like he trying to free the slaves. That was so tone deaf.
@stephaniecrosby52943 ай бұрын
A lot of ppl doesn't like Drake because he's disrespectful to ppl and the black American culture. He should've took Wayne advice and be himself. It's not that he's Canadian, again, he's disrespectful. According to Joe Budden, its a character flaw. Some ppl can't handle fame and power.
@thiscatrocks3 ай бұрын
This is one of the most objective reviews I’ve seen. This was fire 🔥🔥🔥
@shainissa82373 ай бұрын
Drake contradicted himself way too much.
@MT-zm4tn3 ай бұрын
Can we all admit the “Fake Mole”story is BS. The timeline of events doesn’t make sense for it to be true. This was just a narrative Drake took from Twitter.
@michael435673 ай бұрын
Finally. Thought I was the only one who thought this. That shit was a conspiracy on twitter & I think Drake used it out of desperation. I highly doubt Drake would set Kendrick up & not have any proof
@Cee_H3 ай бұрын
So where's the daughter?..
@dontknwwat2calmyslef3 ай бұрын
So where did Kendrick get the daughter info from? Was he lying just like he was lying about drake being a p*do orrr??
@SK-kp2qq3 ай бұрын
Hey drake they’re not slow
@Yoannan_I3 ай бұрын
@@Cee_Hthere’s people in Kendrick’s camp that are saying that the supposed daughter Drake baited them with, isn’t even the girl they were talking about
@toilettisha1223 ай бұрын
If Drake was telling the truth then why not show why he believes his lies besides IG likes. Also, the reason Dave Free doesn't have to respond because no one believes Drake and by responding it then opens that topic to more debate.
@yomamma.ismydaddy2162 ай бұрын
😂😂 yeah after all that trash talking on Kendrick’s family his great groundbreaking evidence is Dave posting a heart emoji on his girls instagram page… oh and the fact Kendrick isn’t following her on his social media page that he literally never even uses😂😂 releasing family matters was a HUGE mistake
@marysimon7144Ай бұрын
1st time on this channel, I so love the passion and honesty of Mitch.
@julez58763 ай бұрын
Do we forget that one dance was a Wiz kid track and hotline bling was a track that was stolen too... Hell take care is the weekend. He's a teef
@dele-5863 ай бұрын
This episode is another classic, started with Mitch, ended with Mitch.... smashed this episode to pieces, enjoyed it...
@Jahvo.3 ай бұрын
we need poet still though lol
@DJBUTCHKASSIDY3 ай бұрын
certified convo love takes and opinion always a solid episode when Mitch is in the building, salute
@kelvinsekwati40163 ай бұрын
Man drake keeps mentioning peoples wifeys then shit hits the fan. I honestly think he wouldve put up an even better fight had he kept it clean. Went with the ice put ppl on I'm bugger in spreading shit around I'm what the world ,women,kids,men listen to. His the biggest artist in the world not he best rapper.
@Yoannan_I3 ай бұрын
If he kept it clean he might’ve won or it would be split decision
@allyzm1027Ай бұрын
Weekend is a bigger artist than DRAKE.
@emanuelnauana53323 ай бұрын
OvHoe Mitch in the building!!!! We been waiting on this oneeeee
@ericckbeal3 ай бұрын
Didn't nobody ever question CLB cover of those pregnant women..
@Cee_H3 ай бұрын
This is why kendrick stans look crazy 😂
@BM_624N73 ай бұрын
Love Mitch's energy and passion
@kylian19613 ай бұрын
WOP WOP WOP WOP
@nightArbitrage3 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂🔥🔥🔥🔥
@c24three3 ай бұрын
Dot fuck em up
@SK-kp2qq3 ай бұрын
Dot fucc em up
@dollzstyleaesthetics61933 ай бұрын
That’ll fuck him up🔥
@benja3033 ай бұрын
Skillibeng needs his royalty cheque
@Watchangiewrk2 ай бұрын
There has not been a day since it dropped that I have not played euphoria multiple times. Everyone is stuck on not like us. But euphoria is literally going to be a classic if it isn’t already.
@CD-xq1lc3 ай бұрын
This was a great convo. Drake isn’t taking anyone’s advice about taking a break. He is working on “summer vibes”
@_Tennille3 ай бұрын
1:29:00 I hear it but Wayne in that interview was trying to save face for his friend. He wrote a book and literally said it was the absolute worst thing he could’ve found out about. Drake doesn’t get that pass 🤷🏽♀️
@Franniiv33 ай бұрын
Always backed Kendrick! Drake didn't even understand half of the references Kendrick threw at him! Especially the one suggesting Drake was a 'PeterFile' went right over his head!
@Cee_H3 ай бұрын
On that premise kendrick didn't understand anything Drake said because he never addressed any of it 🤔
@witkneemenyon56123 ай бұрын
Yes “Not like Us “ was a satire song to me. A dark subject with mad humor in it . And that’s the best way to come at Drake imo. A banger and meme type song. Beat Drake at his own game
@kaydee14853 ай бұрын
No, i think he planned for Kendrick. Drake thought playing the field and controlling the narrative via the internet was the way to go. He took his Meek angle and Pusha T's angle and combined them to create his new plan. He came with club songs, memes and tea. He goaded Kendrick into the family angle because he thought the kid and DV angle would win it for him.
@Project-Aries3 ай бұрын
"I see dead people" is actually the Quantuple entandre [exclusive]
@raecharles54943 ай бұрын
Stand for something or fall for anything. Is what Drake stands for money and girls? Can you really attach him to artist development as a whole? Idk. I think that’s the main issue with Drake dipping and diving with so many artists all over the place. What’s his rap ✨aesthetic✨ if you will. His rap or hip hop philosophy? I don’t know if he has one. And honestly he didn’t start from the bottom so.. if he was doing it for clout and fame. Perhaps he should’ve leaned into it a bit more. Kim K but rap. He’s proved with this he’s not necessarily about the music, not in any significant way anyway…
@LondonEventClips3 ай бұрын
Kendrick won, but I learned that people were really praying on Drake's downfall. Haven't seen people celebrate this much since Bin Laden got packed
@reythomas92153 ай бұрын
What about R Kelly lol?
@merrekeste33853 ай бұрын
😂😂 DRAKE BEEN MID OVERRATED J COLE BETTER 2
@mohamedfahad23643 ай бұрын
Habahahahah😂 "since Ben Laden" 😂😂
@AnimeVillageAMV3 ай бұрын
Proper rap fans have always hated Drake!! Drakes has a separate fan base to rap rans
@vicstone88173 ай бұрын
Kendrick won
@elijahmack2 ай бұрын
Drake came to The States but he didn’t take over. From Day 1 he was put on by the biggest artists. From Wayne to Jay-Z, Kanye West…he was getting verses, beats, etc…from these guys. But then there was markets he couldn’t tap into until he linked with ATL. So for him to talk down to a J. Cole or a Kendrick is wild when Jay-Z signed Cole but backed Drake more only to have Drake start to go at him as though he’s above him. Likewise, Kendrick had Dr. Dre’s co-sign but you look through his projects they aren’t laced with Dr. Dre beats. He instead chose to continue using producers he was in the mud with. A lot of Drake fans don’t know Future come from the legendary Dungeon Fam because he chose to go off on his own and get it out the mud. These are all things Drake never did. He came over here on borrowed and stolen styles/songs from Canada. And then he continued that same method throughout his career. Whenever one sound becomes stale he’ll move to the next hot sound. Where Kendrick and Cole are constantly carving out their own sounds, styles. Look how long it took for Kendrick to rock on a Mustard beat. And then he used two types of Westcoast delivery styles. Something he could have done long ago but he was busy forging his own path instead of wave-riding.
@sillynamereally3 ай бұрын
No one who rates drake highly is a student of the game. PERIOD.
@Jimmy-es8bc3 ай бұрын
For real I was awake when Family Matters dropped…and therefore I was awake when Meet The Grahams dropped. I think my beef senses were tingling. I couldn’t fucking believe it. How am I up at 5am listening to Kendrick and Drake going at each other. Shit was wild.
@saadatsabur67483 ай бұрын
Been waiting on Mitch’s analysis!
@CiRC7E3 ай бұрын
What I would like to add to the conversation is this. It's not just the hip Hop community that feels slutted out by a interaction with Drake. The same thing goes in the gaming community. Yes, the online video gaming community. Drake does the same thing he gets with the hottest guy plays a game or two with them. They get a certain rush and then it's all over and they're left slutted out and they have no contact with Drake. It's a pathology
@mm28013 ай бұрын
The myth because drake is the bigger artist the artists he "works" with benefits more than him is false, he benefits the most as he gets cultural currency and actual music as it clear the guy aint write much and its just a performer. Thats why he does it so much and from so many places through out the US and the world. Mitch is ignorning the fact that he doesn't go on do his thing he goes and he does someone else ting and does it to another artist/culture. Open your eyes.
@courtney021619803 ай бұрын
Finally the pod I was waiting for!!!
@BOOMBAPXL3 ай бұрын
Kdot🏆 Drake🏳️ Cole🏳️
@MUDRATau3 ай бұрын
Just a big 1 now
@shrimp_boogaloo3 ай бұрын
This is the most level-headed, adult take of what transpired. I've seen man-babies scream what basically amounts to "ITS NOT FAIR", but as Craig here said "It's war."
@Left_it3 ай бұрын
So happy you chose the right side. Big up Chuck
@yomamma.ismydaddy2162 ай бұрын
I bet drake wishes sooo bad that he could go back in time and not release family matters and say that stuff about Kendrick and his family. Kendrick even warned him very clearly on euphoria. Crazy. After what’s happened either his ego has gotten a massive reduction or his level of delusion has gotten a massive boost
@untraceable903 ай бұрын
Kendrick did it for us dark skinned man!
@MaceyRG3 ай бұрын
Ya get it.
@Kyzo1853 ай бұрын
U lot had to make it weird
@michael435673 ай бұрын
as a brown skinned guy, I find this cringey. Let the music speak for itself
@untraceable903 ай бұрын
@@michael43567 it spoke & dark skinned one, I'm taking this w!!!
@B_razzer3 ай бұрын
The Black Messiah cheating on his MIXED girl with WHITE girls?
@goodfella14013 ай бұрын
Kendrick has a moral code. He didn't mention an 11 year old's girl that potentially is Drake's daughter because that would impact that girl's life immensely. He didn't brought up people affiliated to Drake that are not in his Drake's close circle or in hip hop like Millie Bobby Brown. That's why he says not to speak on Serena Williams because she's not in hip hop or even in music and yet Aubrey was still taking shots on her
@crazymoe84943 ай бұрын
Mitchy Are You Okay?, Are you Okay Mitchy?
@KingPOTB3 ай бұрын
28:41 I actually witnessed it in real time. I'm always up around 4am as my job has me waking up really early. witnessing that was was not only amazing but funny af!🤣
@coursecorrection41053 ай бұрын
I randomly shout out, what is it? The braids. Kdot had so many good lines. He controlled the pace of this beef, was able to change the tone at will, and had so many options in his arsenal. He remained focus and on offense
@michael435673 ай бұрын
From when "Taylor Made" came out, I would've never predicted things would go like this. I thought it would be closer. It's pretty much a unanimous win for Kendrick
@CiRC7E3 ай бұрын
My name is Ali from Inglewood CA USA checking in. I really appreciate the conversation over here. I would love to converse with you guys in the future.
@sjag29473 ай бұрын
Been waiting for this and you both delivered !!👏👏👏👏
@DHallvc3 ай бұрын
1:07:11 it's that he does it by being that person or borrowing their persona until it isn't hot anymore...who are you as a person and or artist, Eminem never switched who he was, Drake is whoever is hot or got a buzz does for it season tours for 2, leaves. rinse. repeat ...then sleeps with they girl...hides out in Turks until the next new artist pops...
@nameisamine3 ай бұрын
I was disappointed with Drake's performance in the battle. He seemed distracted, unfocused and underprepared, with a weak strategy, and yet, he was projecting so much confidence against a lyricist much more shrewd and articulate than himself. Was this hubris? Because if this was going to be his performance I'll never understand why he responded to "Like That" in the first place - he could've avoided all this damage to his public image in the process. Kendrick out-rapped, out-strategised, out-manoeuvred, AND out-streamed him. Kendrick dropped devastatingly detailed disses that deconstructed Drake as an artist, person and cultural figure, he showed he could diss effectively in all tempos, all while completely dictating the pace of the battle. Drake lost on every metric. As a fan of both, this battle felt a little one-sided. We didn't get Drake at his best. I just thought he'd be a bit more clever since he had a decade to prepare for this moment! Oh well...at least we got some great records but I don't think this battle reflected two artists at the top of their game. One was...the other kinda stumbled through.
@MaceyRG3 ай бұрын
I think it was a lose lose cause if drake didn’t respond the fans would’ve been mad regardless. I personally think he should’ve stopped at pushups and made another one that wasn’t so personal so it didn’t have to go there.
@nameisamine3 ай бұрын
@@MaceyRG I agree but the frustration of him not responding would have been less damaging than THIS.
@MaceyRG3 ай бұрын
@@nameisamine hear you.
@shaspearman864722 сағат бұрын
It didnt have to be a lose lose. It’s doesn’t have to be a sprint. The difference between Drake and Kendrick, is Kendrick understands the long game. Kendrick TOOK his time. Everyone put him on the clock but he did what HE wanted to do. Real King shit. A King dictate the pace. Why cave into the pressure of the fans, when you know their attitude and pivot at any second? But Drake is chronically online, and he desperately craves attention and acceptance. He couldn’t lay low and strategize. He was a fool. 😂 Drake just isn’t that smart. And he is no King. He is just successful. There is a difference.
@b34rd3dg43 ай бұрын
Drake was the aggresor this time round icl. The beef starts from First Person Shooter not Like that. First Person Shooter was meant to include Kendrick and he declined the offer so Drake and J Cole took subliminal shots on that song, leading to Kendrick responding on Like That
@MsPremo19822 ай бұрын
Kendrick is telling yall listeners to learn Our Culture and respect it because you are a guest.
@4DeuceFilms3 ай бұрын
Best UK pod 🎉🎉 I was waiting for my UK dons to review this. 😅
@wondervisionfilms2 ай бұрын
Every single one of Mitch’s points here were valid 🔥🔥🔥🔥
@tryderrick3 ай бұрын
What chuckie said at 59:45 was absolutely insane.
@SophiaMM4803 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂
@lakersouthpaw3 ай бұрын
Just some perspective as an American. You're right that Canadians are looked at as outsiders or maybe don't have "street cred" but that's not the main reason he's not accepted. He just tries to be something he's not. Acting like a gangster or mob boss. Like we saw you on kid's TV as a child actor and you grew up wealthy. People are not that stupid. Spot on about him getting away with it because he could make bangers. He just pushed his luck too much though. Also trying to provoke the west coast when you're some Canadian actor? Like how dumb can you be? That's really not a game he wants to play acting like a tough guy because people can really get hurt fucking around with this stuff.
@scarzwr3 ай бұрын
Ok Mitch knows his shit Nas ‘I don’t soloist only kill squads’ - You’re The Man
@EliBrigante3 ай бұрын
Cant explain how spot on this is 21:33
@desings76143 ай бұрын
This is only the second video ive seen of this channel and this host has such a NAIVE mentality. His takes on the beef shows how surface level he thinks. It's ok sometimes but in the matter of the topic, it's wild to see lol. The guest in this video and the other Kendrick/Drake video (guy with glasses) have the most common sense and in understanding what is happening and what was important.
@swapincentivesuk91903 ай бұрын
Great episode, Mitch broke down this beef very well, Drake got complacent and took his eye off the ball
@braggingrightsllc3 ай бұрын
The king was dethroned in 5 days.
@AM_99243 ай бұрын
Drake lost it for me when he tried to diss the great Michael Jackson. Have some respect. Kendrick is the man.
@MaceyRG3 ай бұрын
when?
@Cee_H3 ай бұрын
I really don't remember this. I learnt from this beef alot of rap fans don't understand bars or do gymnastics to make Drake say something he never said 😂😂 @@MaceyRG
@kaikoroma40723 ай бұрын
Im glad you clocked that because how dare he ¿¿¿¿ Michael deffo had issues, but yikes! Comparing Michael’s (alleged) self-hate to Kendrick’s in that way is the same reason why he had the bar about Kendrick rapping like he wants to free da slaves - “you not a colleague, you a COLONIZER!”.
@shesbaldbutiwould3 ай бұрын
Michael Jackson isnt god lol
@AM_99243 ай бұрын
@@kaikoroma4072 The Michael Jackson estate should pull the MJ duet from Drakes album and teach him a lesson.
@emersonmarshall39293 ай бұрын
I love hearing these two talk about music. Love from 🇨🇦
@WHCalgary3 ай бұрын
Ahhhh before I even watch… Ovo Mitch is here…. Let’s see the bias and I will UPDATE
@joaofaulkner74023 ай бұрын
His takes were based tbf
@ericckbeal3 ай бұрын
Drake has daughters from black women but when questioned about them he denied them in front of the world.. But accept adonis from a white mother when pusha brought it up.. Is crazy
@TheSuperdagga13 ай бұрын
Thought she was indian 😂😂😂
@naldosrecords3 ай бұрын
I'm proud of ovomitch being quite objective on here, there's nuance to the culture vulturism cause it's benefited the others too, but it also looks funny in the light, things like getting tatted BBK, the accents.. Kendrick did a double entendre.. Yes fan = freaky as.. But also he's a FAN of these cultures. Nothing wrong with that, just its a bit weird cause we don't know who he is, where as Kendrick, it's clear who he is, who he represents..
@jiggasworld3 ай бұрын
No lie Chuckie trying his hardest to defend Drake Una 😂😂