Biding dywall can be nerve recking if you are just starting off. Here is some pointers that I use to help me crank out the bids without shooting myself in the foot. Nobody wants to shoot themselve in the foot.
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@jlcfinishcarpentry Жыл бұрын
Great video. You nailed all of the key components in a very straight forward manner. -efficiency, time is money -show up, answer your phone -know your worth -pain is gain SOLID!!! Thank you.
@MolloRelax3 жыл бұрын
If you are drywalling duplexes,townhouses,or any multi-apartments buildings.... make sure to calculate the surplus boards required for fire code applications.A 20x8 wall that separates two adjacent units will have to be doubled up in thickness ,with fire code board,.....usually 5/8 thick too...., therefore adding quite a bit to the final estimate.
@1mandrywallarmytv1443 жыл бұрын
exactly why I say every job is different. Thank you for your input and watching
@coloradocabinguy3 жыл бұрын
I'm not mad at the ridiculous idiots who slap mud on walls and call themselves drywallers either bro. I just feel bad for the negative experience the homeowner gets and our names being marred. Keep up the videos bro! I love the articulate content.
@MolloRelax3 жыл бұрын
I am glad you're not mad at the ridiculous idiots who slap mud on walls and call themselves drywallers either bro....because......really ...THOSE idiots ....including yours truly....LOL...are called tapers. Lots of ignorant people seem to put the two trades together....but they are not the same at all...they are as different from each other ,as the framer is to the cabinet maker
@coloradocabinguy3 жыл бұрын
@@MolloRelax Totally get what your saying Mollo Im talking about people who rip people off with shit work. I do million dollar homes in Colorado/Historic homes from 1800's in Manitou springs Cheyenne mountains and even those folks get chumpped. Its so easy for anyone who has never done drywall to buy a couple of sheets and a play with all elements of the craft in thier own time. Its So when I see folks get taken advantage of, I feel like theres no excuse for that bad business in our industry. Thats what I was getting at. I also appreciate what you said.
@dutchcreek13 жыл бұрын
Love the sincerity and commitment. I learned a lot.
@1mandrywallarmytv1443 жыл бұрын
I glad to hear that!
@isaacdeleon48984 жыл бұрын
I agree with you!! time is money, BUT this works pretty well when you are giving a rough price or a true price. But you could also waste money if you don't look at the finish schedule on the plans for each ceiling and walls and you end up over price or you do get the contract and not every wall or ceilings get drywall and you sent the material regardless, extra material on site its also a waste of money. this is mainly for custom homes or custom commercial in this days . I used the 3.5 rule and does work, but I feel confident to used it to provide rough prices. thank you for this video though good stuff
@1mandrywallarmytv1444 жыл бұрын
It's differently a good starting point to bid drywall. Ultimately looking at the job to confirm the numbers makes sense is recommended on every job. And yes the finish will play into the big picture . Thank you for watching my friend!
@endoalley6803 жыл бұрын
I measure every wall. Typically I get a pdf of the floor plan. I mark up the wall heights on the floor plan pdf, or printed floor plan. And then use specialized measuring software to measure the job. Unless it is a remodel where there are no relevant plans. Then I measure with a laser distance tool all walls and ceilings. I charge per window wrap. I charge extra labor for anything over 9 or 10 feet in elevation. I measure and charge for linear feet for Fry Reglit. I charge extra for round walls, etc.
@1mandrywallarmytv1443 жыл бұрын
sounds good. Everybody seems to have a different way to tally the total number. I really appreciate the reply you just gave. In the end not every job do i bid the same, ultimately making good money is my primary objective. thank you for watching
@Ocanadakiter3 жыл бұрын
I do times 4 for 9ft ceilings. I'm also around the same price as you. Thanks for the vid
@1mandrywallarmytv1443 жыл бұрын
thats great to hear how somebody making that money. We are fighting against a low balling industry. Keep up the good work!
@Ocanadakiter3 жыл бұрын
@@1mandrywallarmytv144 thanks man I agree.. cheers from Vancouver Island Canada 🍻🌞
@strokerace47657 ай бұрын
Not getting a job is not the worst. Working for free is the worst!
@wansfordpaul3 жыл бұрын
you seem like an honest person, and that goes a long way with me rather than a fast and/ or smooth talker, I had a guy shamoo me once with all the fanciest terminology the trade had to offer, I was intimidated by his eloquent rhetoric and how fast his hands were working as he talked, I didn't want to seem like i wasn't as savvy as he was, so I hands him a blank check and the keys to my new pick-up for the materials, but when he doesn't show back up by that evening, I goes in to ask my wife had she heard from this guy, got a call or something, and low and behold SHE'S GONE TOO! well I says to myself as I grabs me head in my two hands " I been BAMBOOZLED'!
@1mandrywallarmytv1443 жыл бұрын
dang bro so sorry for that experience, I hope you are bouncing back quickly, best regards
@levihollis2 жыл бұрын
Just starting to branch out on my own doing drywall, and just finished my first job solo. I’m moving onto my second solo job, and the biggest obstacle I have run into is how to properly bid and getting correct amount of material. Any and all advice and tips are appreciated!
@1mandrywallarmytv1442 жыл бұрын
usually around 50-60 cents a sq foot for materials
@sourenlokes2 жыл бұрын
How long it take you to do your first job
@levihollis2 жыл бұрын
@@sourenlokes a little over a week, with no help, and no lifts. tough, but doable!
@sourenlokes2 жыл бұрын
@@levihollis nice I want to start doing my own little jobs on the side That’s why I’m asking Thank you for the reply have a good one
@76cnolan2 жыл бұрын
That is my issue. I GM haven’t found the sweet spot for bidding.
@JustDvoh2 жыл бұрын
Greatvideo. Couldnt help but notice the two lightening bolts on inside of arm.
@paulpalmer5264 Жыл бұрын
Said like a true professional
@galvanjose19274 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the advice, very helpful for start ups.
@1mandrywallarmytv1444 жыл бұрын
thank you for the feed back. I'm very happy you found the video useful
@jorgefmf10314 жыл бұрын
@@1mandrywallarmytv144 Hey man can you help me in how to estimate metal framing and acoustic ceiling please
@1mandrywallarmytv1444 жыл бұрын
@@jorgefmf1031 I can help with metal studs but nt t frid. i need some info regarding the framing that is being done.
@MadArchimer4 ай бұрын
Love the video and the information. Question, this is just for hanging correct? Not taping included? Thank you for the video and your knowledge!
@OscarLopez-uq2so3 жыл бұрын
Please do one about metal stud framing, thanks for your time and video👍🏽
@1mandrywallarmytv1443 жыл бұрын
I will, thank you for your input!
@sawanlather73323 жыл бұрын
Sir thanks for your video. Could you make a video on how to estimate steel frame and how the payment process works when you get the contract, how we determine that from the start day of work when I will get money to run business expenses at the running project.
@1mandrywallarmytv1443 жыл бұрын
I plan in it. I am current Down with covid Im sitting on 2 commercial jobs as soon as I get out of here
@willinthearea63185 ай бұрын
Does that include installing the drywall or just finishing?
@markkillion89802 ай бұрын
I was wondering the same thing. I used to do drywall but a long time ago. A one point, he makes reference to whether the work is smooth or textured. That made me wonder if he was talking the finishing.
@Ocanadakiter3 жыл бұрын
Can you do a video on board count? Thxs
@MusicThatSuitesMe Жыл бұрын
You da man. Appreciate your perspective
@1mandrywallarmytv144 Жыл бұрын
I appreciate your input!
@nftguyna1772 Жыл бұрын
Question??? A hurricane just hit florida. I just ran a great flood demo gig. Went great. I’ve done drywall for a year as employee. I want to run my own business, LLC and insured ect. Can I get away with charging $20k an average size house. Just to sum it up and move on?
@1mandrywallarmytv144 Жыл бұрын
Good question. However it is a little loaded . To be honest you are being very vague by saying the average size house. How about speak in terms of total sq ft of board space and the type of texture and ceiling height and so forth. Those are the thing that matter when it comes to bidding. Does the job require. What part of town make a difference as well. I like how you are ambitious but put the client first! Build relationships and base pricing around that and the actual cost of doing business and their budget. Not every job opportunity gonna work out right for you. You will learn how to jump or run. I've run from many jobs opportunities if I get red flags blaring off of the charts I don't bother. That take time and experience to avoiding the losers. I wish you the best. Best regards Andrew
@andrescarbajal41193 жыл бұрын
Getting better after this cool guy advice!!!💯💯💯
@1mandrywallarmytv1443 жыл бұрын
hahahaha thanks for watching may you prosper abundantly!
@andrescarbajal41193 жыл бұрын
@@1mandrywallarmytv144 give this man a thumbs up guys.
@1mandrywallarmytv1444 жыл бұрын
it usually does. Every job is different. Make sure you make a reasonable amount of money.
@1mandrywallarmytv1443 жыл бұрын
Thank you I am glad that you found my Video uswful. Much regards
@Iknownothing8963 жыл бұрын
Thank you for share your knowledge 👍 much appreciated
@1mandrywallarmytv1443 жыл бұрын
my pleasure
@cristhianmarshall85502 жыл бұрын
I like to style man ;) I look forward to work in Dry Wall in Canada pretty soon. Greetings from Uruguay!
@joelvalle4114 Жыл бұрын
How Is going in Canadá Cristian?
@flacoloops243 жыл бұрын
Hi @1mandrywallarmytv Could I request your help? My father recently had a stroke and became very ill. He ran a small Drywall business where he would give bids. I am trying to bid while he is recovering but I am not too sure how to interpret his past bids. I keep seeing the number (4.8) where you have your (3) in his notebooks which reminds me of your rule of 3's. Do you have any idea what that could signify?
@1mandrywallarmytv1443 жыл бұрын
could you provide more info regarding this 4.8 number so i can help find its relevance
@shudderclaw7197 Жыл бұрын
So how much would u charge for 1,129total sq ft of wall space that drywall/tape/mud till primer ready
@joseest9525 Жыл бұрын
Appreciate your wisdom!!
@1mandrywallarmytv144 Жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@giovannynavarro81654 жыл бұрын
Does this philosophy include hang finish and texture?
@CannabisChris3132 ай бұрын
Does this method work for 9 ft walls?
@1mandrywallarmytv1442 ай бұрын
that's a great question . And yes the higher you go the more you should be charging. Once your feet leave the ground your time just doubled at minimum. For example if you bid work at 8 foot ceilings then from 8 ft up would require a price increase. The client rarely understands how quickly high work slows down production. You need past performance to how data to work from. Adjust your numbers from there
@LongDistanceMotorcycleFans4 жыл бұрын
Thank you, your videos are great!
@1mandrywallarmytv1444 жыл бұрын
Pastor Gunner Johnson I appreciate you watching and supporting God bless you my friend
@1mandrywallarmytv1442 жыл бұрын
3 weeks 24k job framing drywall
@abrahampshat80955 ай бұрын
Can you bid by the sheet ?
@1mandrywallarmytv1445 ай бұрын
Yes
@gusb4309 Жыл бұрын
I really hope anyone answers but how much do you ask upfront? Or how does that work? Any legal documentation in order to avoid getting stiffed? I brand new at biding and have gotten stiffed twice. I threatened one with a link after reaching out to the store unit real estate agent and they paid up. But how can I avoid this and wording it to them on how much I require upfront?
@1mandrywallarmytv144 Жыл бұрын
depends on many things in California you can get only 1000 or 10% what ever is less for a deposit. Once you start the job ask for more. Have all of this in writing require a signature Be specific stating how much money on what dates and so on. Hope that helps
@tippsgolf2 жыл бұрын
Great video keep working hard brother
@martindelira50142 жыл бұрын
I'm kinda new to all this but all I do right now is I plaster walls/tape, patches, and texture(Age 20) and would like to know how to charge because lately we have been doing alot of remodeling and when it comes down to getting paid we get paid cheaply over here in Vegas. I would like to know if anyone could give me some advice or a link to a video to help me have a better idea how to accurately charge prices for Taping, doing Patches, and texture.
@1mandrywallarmytv1442 жыл бұрын
at 20 I can feel your ambition. However bidding requires planning, budgeting and hard work. Dont sell yourself short. With time you will understand the game. Vegas aint that cheap so get that out of your head. You can make good especially in commercial. Cheers
@martindelira50142 жыл бұрын
@@1mandrywallarmytv144 do you know the proper way to charge because I have been doing this ever since age 18 right now I understand and know how to do everything when it comes to taping, patches, and texture but what I don't understand is how to properly charge and it's been getting to me because sometimes I have to be up 12-15 balancing on a plank or on stilts off ground on remodeling houses and for us to get paid very little since it's three of us who are doing this as a group it sucks but hopefully I'll figure out something.
@johnp4871 Жыл бұрын
@@martindelira5014 Hey man I'm currently studying for my drywall contractor's license. I strongly recommend you purchase "walker's building estimator reference book" as a great starting point for guidance on how to bid drywall properly. I strongly recommend you also purchase "Builder's guide to accounting". And one final word of advise: develop labor and material time and cost records!!! Why? So that you have a point of reference for future work base on on your past experience. Remember the point of the bid is to compensate yourself for the value you bring even after paying all your direct cost and overhead. Also keep in mind that the sweet spot is having privity (direct contract relationship) with the client: from there, the money flows down. Therefore: Aim at eventually getting your license if you don't have it yet. Good luck man!
@martindelira5014 Жыл бұрын
@@johnp4871 thank you very much
@johnp4871 Жыл бұрын
@@martindelira5014 Of course.
@aaronl5072 Жыл бұрын
I have a question, I feel stupid asking this, as I've done it both ways, but what is the correct way. When there's a recessed joint running across the wall and butt joint intercets and runs vertically into it. When your mudding the butt joint, do you stop as your approach the beveled seam , or do mud right through it , stopping on top of the beveled seam?
@ivonnevazquez28553 жыл бұрын
awesome video.
@zachwiegel1860 Жыл бұрын
2.50 a sf to texture? Was that just an example bc people won't pay that around here for sure.. good video though
@Mene5433 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video and taking the time to explain things clearly! I’m trying to start something with my husband, he knows all the labor work but I’m trying to learn the bidding and all the other details needed to run a drywall business. I know how to read and understand blueprints so that’s a big plus, and I’m about to buy the books for the state exam. Any advice for someone who wants to start? I think I’m mostly scared about not passing the state exams. Is the license necessary to bid? (Sorry if that’s a dumb question)
@1mandrywallarmytv1443 жыл бұрын
It's no problem. Rates differ from region to region so be sure to keep that in mind!
@adamnelson94093 жыл бұрын
Definitely
@adamnelson94093 жыл бұрын
I need to do drywall in your area! Lol
@normagarcia35702 жыл бұрын
hey girl if you need help still with questions let me know help my husband as well
@ricksgiggle8852 Жыл бұрын
What's your IG? Instagram?
@edgardelacruz4322 жыл бұрын
Very good info, God blessed you!! Do you know how much could be the lowest for commercial jobs like hotels or stores lets say. Hung, finish and sand 4x12 sheet. I am in Ohio and and i know prices change from region. Thank youu!
@agustinjaimemolina49602 жыл бұрын
On the 3xrule what if customer provides materials?thanks
@1mandrywallarmytv1442 жыл бұрын
just minus the materials from your number and there you have you labor number. dont forget to add profit and overhead.
@casper13163 жыл бұрын
Great video!
@1mandrywallarmytv1443 жыл бұрын
I appreciate that , thanks for watching
@simeonejasso79392 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the insight!!
@andrewcarnegie31463 жыл бұрын
Hello 1mandrywall firt time here you earn my subscription . thank you. Just want to ask for a big favor ¿How does the 3.5 works?
@1mandrywallarmytv1443 жыл бұрын
If I understand right you want to know about 3.5 Times floor spare. Meaning if a home is 1000 square ft in floor spare than if you use the 3.5 Times rule giving you approximently 3500 in board space . This allows you a preliminary view of the job before you actually see it in Person.
@jlcfinishcarpentry Жыл бұрын
Does anyone have tips on when to use 12’ or 16’ sheets over 8’. Obviously you will when you can, but not always.
@Francisco1024004 жыл бұрын
Can you explain to me a bit more the x3 rule?
@1mandrywallarmytv1444 жыл бұрын
it's a starting point to get going on how much sq ft of drywall space the job might have. It mainly applys to residential with 8 ft ceilings.
@OscarLopez-uq2so3 жыл бұрын
Can you tell us what is the right price to charge for metal Studs framing? Great video by the way 👍🏽
@larrymitchell6922 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I feel honesty here!!!
@agustinjaimemolina49603 жыл бұрын
Have a question does the 3× rule include demolition??
@1mandrywallarmytv1443 жыл бұрын
It could if you are demoing the entire job otherwise I would measure it up and create a demo number all by it self. This way you are not doing any demo for free. I hope you will make righteous money on this job.
@Nazgrok3 жыл бұрын
Can you teach us how to do a level 5 smooth finish without sanding a ton?
@PerezTony4203 жыл бұрын
There’s no way you can do a perfect level 5 smooth without sanding.
@darrylsmith22333 жыл бұрын
@@PerezTony420 i can
@DerisedEgami3 жыл бұрын
I've done it, several times. Usually tape, then run 2 coats in the direction of the tape. 3rd coat: run the knife across the tape,... then 2 full surface skims... alternate direction on 2nd full skim. Should only need to use a sanding sponge in a few spots, when done.
@Markerface3 жыл бұрын
Feria can you explain a little more please this sounds dope. Sorry for not knowing the lingo.
@superkickgaming60352 жыл бұрын
your the best brother love ya god bless
@timejumper80032 жыл бұрын
Nice channel I just subscribed!!!
@1mandrywallarmytv1442 жыл бұрын
Ken FromtheFuture Thank you your comment means a lot.
@stocks4bt2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video breakdown. What would you charge to sheetrock, tape and mud a 2100 sq ft house? Based on your experience what is a competitive price & what price is highest robbery?
@1mandrywallarmytv1442 жыл бұрын
Such a loaded question. So many variables. Let's say 2100 square foot with 8 foot ceilings. Orange peel texture. No paint. Standard rental dwelling type of unit. $5000 labor $1500 material and stocking fee total $6500! 1 day to hang and 2 days to finish. 1 extra day to cover surprises 4 calendar days get it done taking your time make more than reasonable good money. I work 6 months a year in the pricey county of San Diego California and still live comfortably!
@jamese92832 жыл бұрын
@@1mandrywallarmytv144 2100 sq ft of drywall or 2100 sq ft floor space? How many men to hang this in 1 day?
@1mandrywallarmytv1442 жыл бұрын
@@jamese9283 3 to hang. 2100 sq ft of Board space. Lol no records wete broken.
@jamese92832 жыл бұрын
@@1mandrywallarmytv144 Yeah, sounds like a comfortable pace. I'm thinking you pay each of your guys ~250/day and your pay for this job would be ~750/day?
@paullewis8842 Жыл бұрын
About 16 grand with garage
@marksmith59802 жыл бұрын
How can I bid on only installation of drywall
@1mandrywallarmytv1442 жыл бұрын
Thats easy. If you are just hanging board you can either submit à number and do it by thé job oe give them à sq ft price. Always pay yourself right! Drywall can be brutal so you should be compensated properly. Thanks for watching
@BenjaminDiaz872 жыл бұрын
champ price change in every state?
@1mandrywallarmytv1442 жыл бұрын
the actual rate could and does vary from state to state. This video shows the quick process that I use to bid jobs fast without using tons of time bidding jobs that I may not get. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching!
@maxympatenaude1383 жыл бұрын
3 for estimate , 3.7 for the invoice !! I think its 4.2 for 9'
@1mandrywallarmytv1443 жыл бұрын
sounds good my friend I need to raise my prices, lol thanks for watching
@crowthorn75902 жыл бұрын
Nice video. Thanks
@alaskanken21323 жыл бұрын
Good stuff thanks buddy.
@1mandrywallarmytv1443 жыл бұрын
I appreciate that
@alaskanken21323 жыл бұрын
@@1mandrywallarmytv144 God bless 😁👍
@agustinjaimemolina49603 жыл бұрын
Thanks for info
@1mandrywallarmytv1443 жыл бұрын
you're welcome
@Ocanadakiter3 жыл бұрын
If its lots of bead and vaults just go $3.00 aft
@abrahampshat80955 ай бұрын
Thank you
@vaqueroactualizado45104 жыл бұрын
Where are you located 1mandrywallarmytv
@1mandrywallarmytv1444 жыл бұрын
San Diego county!
@stingray61643 жыл бұрын
I CHARGE 1 TO 2 TIMES MATERIALS IS THAT WRONG
@1mandrywallarmytv1443 жыл бұрын
that could work in certain situations, however if you did every job that way that could get you into trouble. Itemize your expenses that way you are covered!
@bryanpinto40519 ай бұрын
$150 to $200 a sheet. simple.... 3000 divided by 32, a board sq ft times $150 equals $13,950. these days the numbers are good. When this video came out Trump was in office. In the Biden Corporation economy all materials are up 300% and labor must be up accordingly
@1mandrywallarmytv1449 ай бұрын
you are right on! I should do an update video but i lost interest in doing youtube videos. Money goes nowhere like it did with Trump!
@bryanpinto40519 ай бұрын
i will you your technique of square footage. After years of doing construction your numbers work out. Thank you so much for the tip.@@1mandrywallarmytv144
@76cnolan2 жыл бұрын
$9000 for a 10x10 wall? No damn way!
@1mandrywallarmytv1442 жыл бұрын
I wish, lol. But 1000 sounds good to me no paint
@jeffc4825 Жыл бұрын
isn't it 100x100?
@KillerKlipsch2 жыл бұрын
Thanks bro
@stevevargas11674 жыл бұрын
Good
@1mandrywallarmytv1444 жыл бұрын
Im glad you enjoyed that
@ronniesunio16493 жыл бұрын
Sorry but I’m trying to understand the 3x? Where did that number come from? Thanks
@1mandrywallarmytv1443 жыл бұрын
3x method is used to calculate how much sq ft of drywall space yo should have on a residential drywall job with 8 ft ceilings. The 3x ruler is used as a preliminary method calculate the amount of drywall there without measuring every single wall. Hope that helps
@charliearnold44593 жыл бұрын
Nobody wants to shoot themselves in the foot, das facts
@1mandrywallarmytv1443 жыл бұрын
Amen to that. Alot of people do though
@maxsanchez19372 жыл бұрын
Anybody from Georgia?
@ronparrish58953 жыл бұрын
3.5 divided by the size of the rock being uses
@1mandrywallarmytv1443 жыл бұрын
huh?
@ronparrish58953 жыл бұрын
@@1mandrywallarmytv144 47 years,3.5 works perfect
@ronparrish58953 жыл бұрын
@@1mandrywallarmytv144 and you still have to figure stairwell seperate
@ronparrish58953 жыл бұрын
actually 3.75 a room 12 /12 is 144 sq times 3.75 is 11.25 pcs of 4/12 rock no guessing as you seem to do
@1mandrywallarmytv1443 жыл бұрын
@@ronparrish5895 47 years is a long time.
@shawnpringle7043 жыл бұрын
Duuuuuuuudddddeee!!! I embarrassed to call myself a contracto!!!r If you are trying to call yourself a craftsman and business man...STEP 1 put down the beer can and turn the camera OFF!!
@1mandrywallarmytv1443 жыл бұрын
Hey Shawn are you ok. First off I do not even drink beer second off your spelling has me guessing what exactly are you saying but you sound super mad.
@jonviall5566 Жыл бұрын
I LOVE MUD !!
@gerryhazelton9569 Жыл бұрын
Everyone is doing it wrong . Let’s say you have 200 sheets my system is to make money . 7 k is what I bid on 200 sheets they pay for material . That’s how I do .
@gerryhazelton9569 Жыл бұрын
I know guys still doing by the sheet . That’s crazy this work is hard and deserves money like any other trade
@thookman083 жыл бұрын
Blahhh, Blahhh Blahhhh?!! So just get to the $ part....
@RayTrophies4 жыл бұрын
That a sure way no to get a job
@1mandrywallarmytv1444 жыл бұрын
please explain Ray love to hear
@bw0mp3r449 ай бұрын
Lmmfao! This vid should have been 3 minutes max. But ya'll go ahead 🤣
@mattvanatti46289 ай бұрын
I bid drywall higher than anyone..because were just that good....hire a rookie and you'll see what expensive is....