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No worries, glad it was helpful and have fun making some sounds! :)

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Thanks! So as far as approaching tail sounds go I first think of the weapon, the bigger it is the deeper and longer the tail lasts (single shot weapon might have a slapback delay on them too) where as smaller weapon have a sharper shorter tail. Then I’ll look at the environment, what’s the pre delay going to be, is it forested or a valley, is it enclosed and if so then how much sound should reflect and what are the materials in the space. Basically I figure out: Size and power of the tail -> what is the space -> how reflective would the area be. Then it’s just iterating on the details so give the weapon some more character like adding synthetic layers for a sci-fi gun or adding low end or high end to convey the weight and power or speed and danger of the weapon, also to help differentiate between weapons. Hopefully this made some sort of sense and was a little helpful!

Cheers mate! I use the "Hydra" Reaper theme which you can download here! stash.reaper.fm/theme/2085/HYDRA.ReaperThemeZip

Cheers mate and great questions! 1. To integrate the shots, most of the time the programmer (or even designer) would usually use Middleware. Thats a program like Wwise or FMOD that we use to essentially tell the game engine what to do, you can absolutely use the in engine audio systems but generally middleware is just a lot more helpful. So for example playing a single gunshot sound for each shot through Wwise could look like this: - All variations of a single shot are put in a 'Random Container'. (A container that will randomly play one of its sounds when called). - That random container is put into a ‘Shoot’ event. (Events are what the game engine uses when needed). - In the game engine that event can be set up to be called by many different ways. Like triggering the event when a ‘shoot’ animation' plays. (via animation tagging), triggering the event when the ammo counter changes or triggering the event when a muzzle flash/projectile is spawned etc. You can also do additional things like culling voices so they don't get overpowering and messing with volume and pitch randomization, effects etc. There are some better ways than others all depending on what you want and how the game itself is constructed. Different distances would be different events and only get called when the gunfire is certain distances away. As for gunshot loops its mostly the same as above but there are usually 2 events: Loop Start - The start event could have like a shot or mech one off sound and the start of the loop itself, this can be triggered for instance like when the fire button is pressed. Loop Stop - The loop stop will have a one off like the last shot or the tail of the shot as well as the call to stop the loop, which can be called when the fire button is released for example. 2. Ideally the rendered samples have the exact right amount of space before starting that you want, like if the gun fires the frame after the fire button is pressed you'd also want your sample to start immediately and not have any space before hand. (As it will play from the start of the sample, not the start of any audio, which can also be changed and edited/faded in Wwise anyways). Mono, Stereo, Quad whatever you want just as long as they are consistent and make sure to leave space after in the render in case of reverb or effect tails, don't want any sudden cut outs or pops/clicks! This is a big oversimplification of course haha, this is more the process and basic idea to get it to play correctly. There is so much more you can do in Wwise in terms of real time effects, volume and distance manipulation, layers and so much more! Hopefully this was helpful and made some sort of sense!

@@mattgault2899 Thank you so much for the detailed answer!

Thanks! So you can absolutely record them yourself (for example a lot of the foley was nerf gun handling) but sites like BOOM library, ASoundEffect etc, have some great sample packs of actual weapon handling.

Sorry I didn’t see this comment till now, my apologies! I use Reaper as my DAW and Sony Vegas for video editing. As for DAWs I think they all work and it’s whatever one you like the most (although reaper is the most affordable) and as for video editions I think DaVinci Resolve is free and does everything you’d need it too! Hope this helps! :)

If your talking about the ones I made in the video, I unfortunately can’t distribute them due to licensing :(

That’s a great question! So you can definitely use reverb to make at a tail, however personally I find it can sound quite artificial. When your inside a structure it’s sounds great but for large open spaces I find using a tail sample can be more authentic and provide a little more character to the sound. As for use in game for example in Wwise you can have random containers for each gunshot (outside, inside, tunnel, etc.) and have switches in the engine so when your outside it only plays outside shots, when your in a tunnel it will only play inside shots etc. these can have different tails in those containers or you can use reverb in those same switches. It’s personal preference really, but I find tail samples to be more authentic and they help to make the shots more unique! Hope this helps!

@@mattgault2899 It helps of course, thank you ;)

@@CyberwaveOrchestra I want to add to this. Do note that this is based on my personal opinion as a sound designer working in games, and I am sure that there are plenty of approaches to this. Another reason to bake the tail into the audio itself is to save on resources; imagine that you have 50 players in the frame all at once; how would you handle 50 reverbs? Would you have to make a system/setup that limits resources? How would this affect other sfx in the shot? What takes precedence and what streams (audio being played) will get prioritized and which doesn't? If the reverb is in the background, will concurrency cut it off for a new gunshot, and how does that sound? Baking the tail in would simply be a case of firing the event and letting the concurrency handle it and that's it. If the gunshot gets cut off it can setup with concurrency to slightly fade out and sound entirely natural. If possible you should always try to save resources, because you never know when you will need them. Having 50 reverbs in one scene sounds terrible. What about setting it up so that all players inside the frame/bounding box uses the same reverb? That works, but every reverb decay would take up a stream even though the actual gunshot got cutoff for another gunshot, so either then you have to manually stop the reverb for this particular gunshot only, or somehow limit the concurrency of what the reverb plays back. Playing a sound with a baked in tail solves this easily.

So I would suggest some weapon libraries from the recordist or BOOM. The construction kits especially have professional recordings of real weapons which could be helpful. Unfortunately like you said without the right location and equipment it can be hard to get a clean recording. Another note is most weapons have a very similar sound if it’s completely realistic so you may need to do some light design work to differentiate them regardless. Hope this helps!

So I know BOOM and the Recordist have some great mech libraries but you can also use anything like tools, containers and other randoms bits and bobs. As for bass it’s just a kick drum sample so any music packs are good and there are a ton of free music libraries out there. Hope this helps!

The only places I could think of that may help would be Freesound.org (user uploaded free samples) and signing up for BOOM Libraries monthly free samples which can sometimes include weapon content. Recording firearms is an expensive process so most gun content will be paid. Hope this helped! :)

So it’s a lot to get into but you can use a Middleware like Wwise to get audio into your game. If you visits Wwise’s website you can download a free version and they have a bunch of tutorials on how to use it to implement sounds. Unfortunately I’m not aware myself of any great tutorials off the top of my head but I’m sure if you search Wwise + Unreal implementing gunshots I’m sure there’s content out there to get you started! Hopefully this was some help :)

@@mattgault2899 I’ll look into that. I appreciate you having the time to comment back, and keep up the great work!

Yup that’s for sure a way you can do it! This is more layers sounds when creating that initial sound file. So 3 layers make up the transient, 4 make up the mech and so on

So if I am understanding the question correctly, the free packs I have linked are more to design sounds for games. The tools and packages to design the games themselves are separate, although I do think there is enough free stuff around to be able to make a basic game. Hope this helps! :)

Not a stupid question at all! I’m using Reaper as my DAW, Soundly as a library organizer and then Sony Vegas for video editing.

thank you!

I’m currently working with/learning Wwise but I haven’t specifically worked on Wwise before if that’s what you’re asking :)

@@mattgault2899 i just i want ask you how i can install Opus codec on wwise in thier site they have some info about it beside pcm + vorbis but when i want convert wav there is no opus its just pcm and vorbis + adpcm , that is confused me

Unfortunately I’m still a beginner myself so I’m not too sure. Might be a platform thing or possibly only available when using a commercial version (as in you’ve paid for it to use on a commercial product) Sorry I couldn’t be more help!

@@mattgault2899 its ok bro i find the way its simple , and they never explain that to u in the site

Hey! Unfortunately I cannot sell these sounds due to licensing. Sorry! If you are looking to but the sounds I used to make them then BOOM library and ASoundEffect have great weapon sound libraries.

@@mattgault2899 thanks 👍

That’s my DAW of choice Reaper! (With the Hydra theme/skin)

@@mattgault2899 thank u :D

Are there any alternative software to make the Gun sound effects? I have also downloaded the sound effects that had all the different parts of guns, and see if it can be done in other software such as audacity. It's for my own projects too by the way. I want to learn as much as possible. @@mattgault2899