How I install joist hangers for the porch on our log cabin. Verify gage block is the same dimensions as the joists you are installing. Rough Cut Homestead
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@renaissancemarinetv35363 жыл бұрын
i do it exactly the same way, except i drop everything in the dirt two or three times.
@RuffCut3 жыл бұрын
I do too...just didn't video that part!
@crsantin2 жыл бұрын
Some foul language helps with that
@ringleader2004 Жыл бұрын
When it comes to DIY home repair, or even apprentice workers trying to learn, videos like this are an invaluable asset. I thank you for what you do and for what you are willing to teach.
@RuffCut Жыл бұрын
Thank you for saying so Billy...your comment is much appreciated
@marcelmed4574 Жыл бұрын
A few corrections, those do not appear to be structural screws. Screws for outdoor decks when using joist hangers must use structural screws or structural nails. Second correction every hole on that hanger must have a screw. The 45 degree holes on that hanger must have a minimum 3 inch fastener, short screws or nails are not allowed.
@Porkwhitemeat Жыл бұрын
Not entirely accurate. You only need 1.5s on the cross screws if its not going through the ledger into a band joist. 3s around here anyways are very rarely used. Only some decks that require some engineering. 2.5s are fine on the cross holes when its going through the ledger.
@tonyefc84232 жыл бұрын
No messing about. Straight to the point. An old school builder like myself. Job done properly. Very good video. Thanks.
@RuffCut2 жыл бұрын
thanks Tony
@bobcholawo67873 жыл бұрын
Thanks bro, I often forget about those hangers, I tend to do things wood on wood. But when they can be used they save a lot of extra work and timber too I guess. God bless you out there.
@RuffCut3 жыл бұрын
yeah we use to use 2x2 for a ledge years ago and they worked fine
@DarkendSun8 ай бұрын
Got a little tip for you. Those tabs on the top on each side you Hammer them in and the bracket will stay in place and won't have to worry about your screw falling off your drill tip
@RuffCut8 ай бұрын
they dont stay on the mark or I would use them
@ThriftDiving Жыл бұрын
Just what I needed. I am building a small deck on the front of my "she shed" and I could NOT for the life of me get those hangers on properly. Your tips will help! Thank you!
@CalvinsCorner723 жыл бұрын
Wow Man I wish I’d been shown this years ago. I just kind of figured out how to use them by myself but I never did figure out how to get em right. I really appreciate it.
@RuffCut3 жыл бұрын
It's all good on the Corner!
@waterbugofthausa77233 жыл бұрын
Good morning Mr Duke enjoy the video I have use them on shed on the floor hope didn't get any bad weather your way have a beautiful bless day be safe. 👍👍👍
@RuffCut3 жыл бұрын
the storm stayed to the east of us....Thanks Waterbug
@LeeRalph1003 жыл бұрын
Good Tip Brother. I love this things. I used to just nail in through the face board....these make a big difference and a stronger build. I can not wait until you get that porch done...that will be nice!!
@RuffCut3 жыл бұрын
Morning Brother...I got all the hangers installed and ready to drop the joists....got two new tires and ready to ride today!
@LeeRalph1003 жыл бұрын
@@RuffCut Morning!!! Heck Yeah!! Very Cool, have a great ride, I sure do miss doing that!!
@rheidtech3 жыл бұрын
Perfect! Yeah they make #10 joist hanger nails and joist hanger screws. Im not sure what type of screws those are..(galvanised decking screws?) Alot if those dont have she shear strength for the application. If you can put it in a vice and break the head off easily theyre not the best. But theyre good enough for the girls i go out with. Lol. Have a great weekend ole duke. 🌄🍺👍👍🐕🐟
@RuffCut3 жыл бұрын
Robert, are you telling me if we have a hoedown at the cabin we might be in trouble??? :)
@rheidtech3 жыл бұрын
@@RuffCut anything under 1000lbs per square foot, your good. Lol
Here's the correct screws to use in the application: www.homedepot.com/p/Simpson-Strong-Tie-10-x-2-1-2-in-1-4-Hex-Drive-Strong-Drive-SD-Connector-Screw-100-Pack-SD10212R100-R/206101776 Just learned this myself. I've done a job or two before just using exterior screws, but this is the proper screw to use. You need the 2.5" screws to go in the joist, but you can use 1.5" to attach the hanger to the ledger board. Good luck with your projects!
@patrickjay64343 жыл бұрын
Great, nice and simple explanation. Looks very solid, thanks for sharing 👍🏿
@RuffCut3 жыл бұрын
Thanks...and you're Welcome
@ketchhomesteadoutdoors40483 жыл бұрын
Good tips there Mr. Duke. I’ve always installed the joists first then the hangers.
@RuffCut3 жыл бұрын
yeah for me it depends on if I have help or if i am mounting to a beam. Thank you Jeff...looking to see what the metal contraption is!
@ketchhomesteadoutdoors40483 жыл бұрын
Rough Cut Homestead I’ll get that out this weekend Mr. Duke
@HNXMedia3 жыл бұрын
I am always hold 3-4 screws in my mouth as I'm doing this type thing. Never realized the spit helped the screw stay on the screw-gun tip.
@RuffCut3 жыл бұрын
it works pretty good!
@TheBeardedCarpenter3 жыл бұрын
Howdy Mr. Duke- mighty good tips you’re sharing for sure. Can’t wait to see the porch all fixed up and you asittin on it. Have a great weekend and God bless y’all
@RuffCut3 жыл бұрын
Yes Sir....first thing we re going to do is get a family picture and fry fish..... Lord's blessings Bro. Paul
@homesteadandhustle69213 жыл бұрын
Great tips. Those hangers can come in pretty handy! Good video. God bless y’all
@RuffCut3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@Rechkalov73 жыл бұрын
You know the little v's on top of each side of the hanger are made to be hammered into wood to set your position.
@RuffCut3 жыл бұрын
you can use them
@kevinrivard38758 ай бұрын
They also add a little strength since they are on an angle. Definitely should be used.
@chevyking81312 жыл бұрын
Wish I would have watched your video before I hung my hangers... Now I have to make adjustments. Good video ✊
@RuffCut2 жыл бұрын
check and see if your joists measure the same top to bottom...some measurements vary with pressure treated lumber Thanks
@joeamato39362 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure those little tabs at the top are for whackin when you get it lined up to keep it in place before you nail it off.
@stephenlinville4613Ай бұрын
This fella isn’t drinking moonshine is he.😂
@GuntersGarage3 жыл бұрын
Thats good advice. I am going to be replacing my front porch in the near future, prob after new year's and Im worried as wood working is not my strong point. Thanks for the helpful tip!
@RuffCut3 жыл бұрын
I bet you will do just fine!
@paulswanson81893 жыл бұрын
You did it wrong! You should install them twisted one way or the other to match the warped lumber they sell nowadays.
@RuffCut3 жыл бұрын
need blocks for left hand and right hand twist!
@chrisalister22972 жыл бұрын
Great video. Just FYI, screws are not meant for holding weight. They shear easily-brittle. You want nails. The screws you are using are called decking screws. Meant to hold decking planks down.
@RuffCut2 жыл бұрын
I addressed the issue in the video
@ryanwhitney6672 жыл бұрын
Structural screws can be used. Nails are the common structural method as they support weights better. This type of screw is not for load bearing.
@RuffCut2 жыл бұрын
Yes Sir good advice
@Burritosarebetterthantacos8 ай бұрын
A great video on how not to use joist hangers😂
@larryhayes38223 жыл бұрын
great video duke take care and god bless
@RuffCut3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Larry
@JourneyNorthAK3 жыл бұрын
I always don't the 2nd way you showed.. treated lumber has a tendency to be plus or minus a 1/8. Then you make sure your flush on top.... I like that HAMMER ya got.
@RuffCut3 жыл бұрын
the lumber I'm using came from one stack and they measured all the same...but yeah they can vary....I have some beams in the porch and can't screw from the backside...that hammer has two ball bearings in the claw that are spring loaded!
@icee4892 жыл бұрын
I do this with nails, and we gotta line em up with drywall in mind. I do that “square” trick every hanger. Good advice.
@RuffCut2 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@DriveShaftDrew3 жыл бұрын
thumbs up shared both ways will work just fine good job
@RuffCut3 жыл бұрын
yeah sometimes you can't use the second method when attached to a beam...Thanks Drew
@camuslp2832 жыл бұрын
You are supposed to fasten the joist to the ledger before you attach the joist hanger
@RuffCut2 жыл бұрын
you don' know what you're looking at
@REAPERMILITIAOUTDOORS3 жыл бұрын
Yes sir coming together just fine. 👊💀🇺🇲
@RuffCut3 жыл бұрын
Yes Sir...got a lot of joists to set now that the hangers are in place....Thanks Reaper
@DuaneT643 жыл бұрын
Good tips Duke
@RuffCut3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Duane
@keytothegate6811 ай бұрын
Use better screws for sure.
@RuffCut10 ай бұрын
yes
@lalva5798 Жыл бұрын
Hammering in the set prongs can save you from fumbling screws
@RuffCut Жыл бұрын
lol when I hear that I know its coming from an electrician trainee
@lalva5798 Жыл бұрын
@@RuffCut actually, a jack of all trades looking to master at least one 😂
@RuffCut Жыл бұрын
@@lalva5798 anytime you hammer in the prongs it moves the hanger off the mark
@lalva5798 Жыл бұрын
@@RuffCut maybe my skills are at another level 🤣
@texaswhitetails16958 ай бұрын
Awesome video man, I waa wanting to know why you had the hanger to the right of the line and down the center of the line? Im a beginner, thanks
@robertmccully2792 Жыл бұрын
That's good, but screws have very little shear strength. Use a hanger nail gun and you never look back.
@collierleeappraisal Жыл бұрын
Thanks, this was very helpful
@RuffCut Жыл бұрын
you're Welcome
@gotzgeorge96018 ай бұрын
No one inspector will approve the screws you used.
@gregbarry58754 ай бұрын
The screws won't pass an building inspection.
@RuffCut4 ай бұрын
yes
@bakervinci1632 жыл бұрын
I like the idea of using that jig. Get someone to hold your beer. Why did you take it out before you put the second screw in ?
@RuffCut2 жыл бұрын
it makes a tighter fit if the jig is not there
@rickstrole96342 жыл бұрын
I'm arizona you must use teco nails or approved fasteners it's not up to you what screw or nails you like..here ypu will be taking everything apart if you out of compliance with the fastener
@DanVogt Жыл бұрын
Great video thanks heaps
@papatutti598 ай бұрын
Oh no! Wrong type of screws buddy.
@johnburgess6919 Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@RuffCut Жыл бұрын
you're welcome John !
@His_Scout_Sixty Жыл бұрын
Thank you, this helped
@judyaustin8527 Жыл бұрын
Pre-hanging the hangers, is all wood the same size in a given size?
@RuffCut Жыл бұрын
they can vary especially with pressure treated lumber....when you buy lumber and it comes from the same stack its usually the same....its a good idea to look at the boards before you mount the hangers
@bgBlea Жыл бұрын
You are supposed to nail those clips into place to hold it in the proper spot. After that you can fasten them
@RuffCut Жыл бұрын
make a video and show me how
@ThriftDiving Жыл бұрын
Well, that is what I was doing at first, nailing the clips into place, but honestly, they were slipping out and didn't seem very effective. So I like his version better: screw first and then you can nail the clips into place.
@bgBlea Жыл бұрын
@Thrift Diving I find it way easier using them. Once nailed, you no longer need a piece of wood for placement. Hold it and start a screw on either side. Also I depends on how much space you have. I did that in a crawlspace and made everything super easy
@rickstrole96342 жыл бұрын
You do know what those little prongs are for ..right
@ILC-eo6vk2 жыл бұрын
I'm building a 16x32 deck and bought 2x10 ledger board. Is 2x10 okay to use? I figured 2x12 would be an overkill. I'm in Georgia.
@RuffCut2 жыл бұрын
It should be if you nail two together but don't know how far apart your piers are...they have that info on the internet...I can't tell you for sure
@cabindweller156 Жыл бұрын
also supposed to use 2-1/2" screws into the slots for them.
@chipsun2504 Жыл бұрын
Awesome. Thanks!
@RuffCut Жыл бұрын
You're welcome!
@DanI-mx8dx Жыл бұрын
By code, you are not using the right hangers nails. You will fail inspection. Very bad advice.
@RuffCut Жыл бұрын
If you watched the video you would see I didnt advise to use these screws
@toddperry98603 жыл бұрын
The screws that you’re using would never pass code as they’re not structural those are deck or drywall screws they won’t work
@RuffCut3 жыл бұрын
I discussed that in the video
@OGbqze2 жыл бұрын
Yet they'll hold for 100 years.
@tonyefc84232 жыл бұрын
Them screws are going nowhere for long after you and I are long gone.. Only pedantic building inspectors insist on ring shank galvanised nails
@DzHarryNuttz Жыл бұрын
Are these sturdy enough to use for homemade bunk beds?
@RuffCut Жыл бұрын
they have load charts for different size hangers
@DzHarryNuttz Жыл бұрын
@@RuffCut I'm going to build bunk beds in my Skoolie and was wanting to use these mounted to 4x4s. The chart says 480lbs so it should be fine.
@cha-ka8671 Жыл бұрын
you never use screws on joist hangers. NEVER
@RuffCut Жыл бұрын
you are almost right
@cha-ka8671 Жыл бұрын
@@RuffCut I know they have screws that can be used which are equivalent to nails now but, I wouldn't use them. The simpson joist screws are another story. They look solid AF
@greatbigjt Жыл бұрын
You have got to be kidding me. Is this a comedy video? You CAN NOT install hangers with screws unless they are structural by joist manufacturer. For all of the comments below about how this is a great learning video or best way - read the hanger manufacturer installation it says nails and specific gauge of nails.
@RuffCut Жыл бұрын
Watch the video and you'll figure it out
@jerrylittle89223 жыл бұрын
👍
@rickstrole96342 жыл бұрын
There will be no project at this rate
@gordco1 Жыл бұрын
Wrong nails dude.
@RuffCut Жыл бұрын
You win the turkey!
@KellyStevensFGG Жыл бұрын
Terrible demo. The screws should be Simpson engineering screws, not decking screws. The angled screws should be Simpson 1025 2.5 inches long. Lastly, screw a short 1x1 on top of the joist to hold it while you do the work.
@RuffCut Жыл бұрын
You win a chicken dinner!
@ThriftDiving Жыл бұрын
Yes, you are correct. On the box of the joist hanger it will tell you what screws or nails to use. I wouldn't call this a terrible demo. That's being mean for no reason. The tip about squaring them up was exactly what I needed since I was having a heck of a time getting my joist hangers on (first timer). But I do agree that the 2.5 Simpson Strong Tie screws are used to toenail the joist hangers, as well as 1.5" Simpson Strong Tie screws for the other 4 slots.
@cabindweller156 Жыл бұрын
Wrong fasteners for code, all 2 x's tend to vary so to use one block to do all is incorrect procedure. Putting them on like this will certainly leave some gaps to the 2x's and in such will not pass code. Nice try tho.