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How I Ship 20, 30, 50+ Cards in an Envelope Cheaply
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Ай бұрынThis one is pretty straightforward. Not a lot of nuance in this video. Basically, I describe how I'm using the Shipping Shields Top Shields and my new subscription at Stamps.com to be able to affordably ship what are called Large Envelopes or Flats. This is another tier of first class shipping below the parcel rate, but exceeds the normal allowed envelope size in at least one direction. Check it out! And leave some tips if you have any!
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@KrakenPacksOFFICIAL Ай бұрын
Just watched! I'll trade you some cool tips that you provided here for my tip. Personally, in this example (35 cards), I would have split the order into two packages (normal #10 mailers, with two stacks of cards in them), which at 2oz each is $0.88 = $1.76 total. I write very clearly on the front of the shipment "ORDER1/2 or 2/2, or 2/3 etc.", have been doing this for years and never had any issues/complaints, so maybe this can be another solution! Cheers!
@TCGBulkKings Ай бұрын
Definitely a workable solution. I didn't like the risk of potentially one half of the order but making it or being damaged, but it sounds like your experience is that that risk is pretty low
@DeathgripsCards Ай бұрын
what stamps are you using to make 2oz be worth .88 cents? Ive had issue with mailing anything over an oz with forever stamps
@TCGBulkKings Ай бұрын
@@DeathgripsCards you can use add'l oz stamps, but also with the stamps.com program, a 2oz envelope costs $.88
@DeathgripsCards Ай бұрын
@@TCGBulkKings im not really prepared to print directly onto envelopes, its there a way to use this without having to invenst in a new printer or something of that nature?
@TCGBulkKings Ай бұрын
@@DeathgripsCards I think you could print onto labels, or you can use their netstamps and put them onto your envelopes otherwise addressed
@VitoD226 Ай бұрын
I love your transparency and honesty.
@TCGBulkKings Ай бұрын
I don't know of another way to be, but thanks, that's very kind
@spaghettiskitchen7730 Ай бұрын
Bubble mailers can be used as large envelopes rates as long as they fit through the 3/4 or something thickness and evenly distributed in the mailer
@spaghettiskitchen7730 Ай бұрын
Comic book boards work well also to tape the cards to and hold in place while in mailer
@TCGBulkKings Ай бұрын
Yep I've used the bubble mailers too when testing things out, but I like the feel of this a bit better. Certainly doable though
@spaghettiskitchen7730 Ай бұрын
@@TCGBulkKings hell yeah. I just broke 1000 orders on tcgplayer, started in November last year.
@MrFfffd Ай бұрын
I've had mixed results with this over the years. A lot of postal employees automatically kicked them back even if they fit the "flat" requirements to a tee because they (wrongfully) associate bubble mailers with package rates.
@maplelodge2 8 күн бұрын
@@MrFfffd Same here. Bubble mailers = parcel rate for many USPS employees. If I have to use "flats" I use stay-flat rigid mailers and spread out the cards evenly to ensure it is evenly distributed
@MTGUnpacked Ай бұрын
Nice tips! I don't typically get larger orders like that, but it's good to know how to handle what would otherwise be an awkward order size👍
@TCGBulkKings Ай бұрын
I get a couple every day it seems, glad to have something that works for me
@sterlingwingard4298 Ай бұрын
Love this! Real industry advice from the Bulk GOAT!
@tylerross2689 Ай бұрын
Hey chase what I’ve been doing with larger orders that works well is cutting a 9 pocket binder page into thirds and spreading the card’s across the three pockets in the envelope. The pages if you buy in bulk come out to the same price as a toploader. I do however still use stamps and using the windowed envelopes really sped up my packing!
@TCGBulkKings Ай бұрын
Certainly a good solution for many
@brentonfavreau1149 23 күн бұрын
That's brilliant, thanks for the idea!
@blo3305 4 күн бұрын
I've had issues shipping orders in a large envelope. USPS says the envelope isn't "flexible." I've tried spacing the cards out in sleeves (5 cards per sleeve) and spacing them out. Put apparently, it's still not flexible. Anything I can do?
@TCGBulkKings 2 күн бұрын
Honestly, it sounds like you are conforming to the Large Envelope requirements. I would double check that you aren't doing something outside their bounds, and would drop the mail pieces into a dropbox rather than to the counterperson. Most of the time, unless the mail piece jams the machines, the people doing that process won't care about the flexibility of your mail. But the counterpeople are supposed to be pushing back on "inflexible" or otherwise out of bounds mail pieces.
@byronwingate664 Ай бұрын
Thanks! We struggle with this also, very insightful!
@TCGBulkKings Ай бұрын
There's not really a perfect solution, probably as many solutions as there are businesses that need to ship these orders. There's a lot of great advice elsewhere in the comments - take what works best for you for sure
@SageKillahYGO Ай бұрын
Hey boss! Just a heads-up, from 8:35 - 8:38, the customer's information is visible. Just looking out! I always appreciate the little optimizations like this!
@TCGBulkKings Ай бұрын
Thanks, I didn't think it was readable, I'll try to put in a blur or something
@SageKillahYGO Ай бұрын
@@TCGBulkKings No problem! The YT vid editor has definitely gotten more useable in recent years. 😆
@KrakenPacksOFFICIAL Ай бұрын
Ayeee what up Sage, good to see another WN brother in the wild 🫡
@SageKillahYGO Ай бұрын
@@KrakenPacksOFFICIAL Ayyyyyyye. What's good, Kraken! 🤝💚 Much love, boss.
@SuperNerdSteve 29 күн бұрын
The bulk KING, killin' it again :D
@Romanshorn84 Ай бұрын
I have the opposite issues. I charge $5 for shipping to discourage orders. I prefer to ship only TCG direct. The number of orders for 10 cents or less plus $5 shipping is staggering. Margins very nice, I still ship with a letter and stamp. This happens way more with MTG orders then other tcgs.
@TCGBulkKings Ай бұрын
The demand is real, and it seems TCGplayer's Direct warehouse isn't super well stocked, so I can see where this is coming from for sure
@GripsCardMarket Ай бұрын
For real?? what size is your inventory for magic?
@kurtsnider8114 Ай бұрын
@@GripsCardMarket We had raised ours to $3.75 and got around 3 orders per day at that shipping rate. 37,000 cards in inventory. We now brought it down to $1.87 because that covers any realistic shipping cost we may incur. Selling cards for full value (non direct) when they are under $3 is worth it
@JordanMarshDev Ай бұрын
I completely understand when brick and mortar stores can’t afford the loss of shipping some lower cost orders, so I’m not calling them out. But the volume in orders one encourages by having low cost low margin orders is incredibly valuable. Sure, you may lose a dollar here and there, but a good experience quick and safe delivery to a buyer can lead to that buyer being a repeat customer for more, it increases brand visibility on a platform like TCG player, and just makes sense to my business. Yeah I lose money on a lot of small orders of small cost cards, the non monetary benefits of doing so has proven extremely valuable to me.
@damonnetz4939 2 күн бұрын
Great video, question - how exactly do you deal with the shipping prices when someone orders 15+ cards? I sent out an order for 15 cards, in a PWE, put 4 in a shipping shield then the rest in a team bag - it got sent back to me by the post office stating it needed to be a "parcel" - so I put it in a bubble mailer which I had to get a shipping label for obviously and it was $5 at the post office. I signed up for ShippingEasy and it's still like $4. Example, someone bought 26 cards from me, total was $8.79 after the $1.27 shipping cost - the net amount after TCG takes their fee is $7.35 but then it cost me $4 for the label so I only make $3 instead of $7
@TCGBulkKings 2 күн бұрын
Up to 16 cards I do two shipping shields side by side in a #10 envelope, with an additional ounce of postage. Above 16 cards, I use the method in the video up to about 50 cards
@tjpalme4298 Ай бұрын
I dont think im ready to give up the windowed envelopes with the packing slip. If i have to send two envelopes i will. No issues so far
@gregesparza5857 29 күн бұрын
is there a preffered form of contact if i had a few questions for you, i think your business practices are top notch!!
@TCGBulkKings 28 күн бұрын
You can email me at tcgbulkkings@gmail.com
@CUTS_cards Ай бұрын
I know this is off topic but hope you have some feedback for me. What have you been doing with PriceMass for cards >$5?? I have been doing average of TCG low and Market Price but find that My prices can really be lower than I would like with this. I have been debating going market price >$5 and using average TCG low and Market Price for cards 0.20 (floor) to 4.99. Curious what you have been doing!
@TCGBulkKings Ай бұрын
There isn't a way that I know of to select only cards in a certain price category. If you're wanting to have different pricing strategies for different price categories, you'll have to either do it manually or have multiple stores or something =[
@ndehaan13 Ай бұрын
My local po got on me for flexibility issues and i had to start sending things out as non machinable which adds like 40 cents Do you do the same? Or do you have some tips around that
@CrypticMonolith Ай бұрын
Mine is the same way, I switched to semi-rigid card holders like team savers for orders of 4 or less cards worth $10 or less. My PO is fine sending these with a regular stamp, For anything with more cards or packaging I use the non-machineable.
@TCGBulkKings Ай бұрын
I place the cards to one side of the envelope if possible, so it ships like a credit card. If those aren't too rigid then neither are our orders. I also don't drop them off with the humans at the post office, but rather in a blue box or some other kind of bulk drop off. This way they aren't stopping you at the desk with bs flexibility issues. Non-machineable envelopes get run through the machines too, despite the name
@denverfan88 Ай бұрын
Lol side notE when is TCG gona get ebay pwe system???...tracked pwe with easy thermal lable for the price of a stamp...its been what 2yrs since the buyout 😅
@TCGBulkKings Ай бұрын
Someone between tomorrow and 2036
@xUnikronx Ай бұрын
Are those envelopes the A9?
@TCGBulkKings Ай бұрын
Yep 👍 I didn't know at the time of filming, but I found out after and put a link to them in the description
@Julnlecs86 Ай бұрын
Have you had issues shipping a 1.1 oz order with only 1 forever stamp?
@TCGBulkKings Ай бұрын
I haven't purposefully tried 😂
@Julnlecs86 Ай бұрын
@@TCGBulkKings I will let you know what happens when I do that soon. 😅
@Omar_GnomeBoisTCG Ай бұрын
Hey Chase I went looking in TCG player's shipping guidelines and help articles and didn't see anything about including promotional materials in with orders. Is this an upcoming change or was I just not able to find it?
@TCGBulkKings Ай бұрын
This is a recent change, already effective. It's buried in the terms of service, and when they made the change explicit, they acted like it had always been the case
@Omar_GnomeBoisTCG Ай бұрын
@@TCGBulkKings Ok I took another look and found it. I guess I can include a business card just not with any external links. Definitely wish they made this more clear! You may not attempt to circumvent the marketplace sales process or divert marketplace customers to another website. This includes but is not limited to marketing materials included in shipped orders, custom packing slips, links, and/or messages that prompt users to visit any external website or complete a transaction elsewhere. Orders originated from Pro web stores are eligible to include marketing materials in shipped orders. 4/25/24 - Updated information about seller marketing materials.
@BunnyFuMaster Ай бұрын
Totally unrelated question, but I couldn't find a video where you talked about this. I've just started my journey and I've gotten my store to Level 4 and I'm ready to start posting some bulk I already owned and start sourcing. My question is at wont point would you consider creating an LLC? I've already made $700 and I'm worried about how taxes are going to go if I keep up this pace.
@jacobniedermayer8924 Ай бұрын
If you're reporting your income correctly it should be fine at a number like that. I'd say at your current point it falls under hobby income and I wouldn't worry about it if you are at or below the 1099 reporting threshold. Of course, check with someone registered to do taxes in your state.
@jacobniedermayer8924 Ай бұрын
For an LLC, maybe if you have 100k in sales in a year, you're getting too big for your own good.
@TCGBulkKings Ай бұрын
I can't really give tax advice, but I can say that I had a Sole Proprietorship for a couple years, but went ahead and set up a new LLC when I moved last year. The taxes aren't significantly different for me yet, but I wanted to have things in place for when it /did/ become necessary
@westonstaufenberg7278 Ай бұрын
Good timing w/ this video. I'm nearing my 500th order since I started at the end of May. and I got over 10k cards listed, so the possibility I get low value large quantity orders is increasing. I actually just had a 47 card order last night which came to $5 after tcgplayers cut. I used pirate ship w/ a bubble mailer so I made almost nothing on it. I'll definitely try out these top shields and the large envelopes. What size are those "half-letters"? And do pen and gear make them like the self-sticking #10 envelopes?
@TCGBulkKings Ай бұрын
Sure they are A9 envelopes, or greeting card envelopes. You can get them at most places that sell envelopes, or if you want to order them, here is a link to walmart: sovrn.co/1pazfyw I'll go ahead and drop that in the description as well
@westonstaufenberg7278 Ай бұрын
@@TCGBulkKings Thanks, man. You've been a valuable resource.
@rogueinvestor2375 Ай бұрын
Have you ever got in the situation when the buyer told you he/she didn't received his/her order on or after Estimated Delivery Date? If yes, how often does that happen? What do you do when it happens?
@westonstaufenberg7278 Ай бұрын
@@rogueinvestor2375 It hasn't happened to me yet (cross my fingers, knock on wood), but if it happened I'd probably just refund and move on. The Estimated Delivery is quite generous from order date, that either something must of happened to it in Postal Service and went missing, is on its way back to sender or the customer is scamming you. I've only had one return to sender so far and it was because customer has issue w/ his mail in general w/ his PO and his mailbox and I just sent it back out.
@gregesparza5857 19 күн бұрын
can you add a link to what printer you recommend, the ecotank you keep talking about
@TCGBulkKings 19 күн бұрын
It was in the description, but kind of toward the bottom, so here you go: Epson Eco-Tank ET-2803: sovrn.co/138fwfs
@gregesparza5857 19 күн бұрын
@@TCGBulkKings dang its only $200..... does it have different trays for envelopes and paper, or do you have 2 printers
@TCGBulkKings 19 күн бұрын
@@gregesparza5857 only one tray, but it's adjustable. I just switch them out as needed
@gregesparza5857 19 күн бұрын
@@TCGBulkKings i guess if you are only printing order lists once a day then you only have to switch the tray out once
@TCGBulkKings 19 күн бұрын
@@gregesparza5857 oh you don't have to change the tray, it just has an adjuster that holds whatever size paper you put in it, it's really nice
@AiSMRStories Ай бұрын
You bought the shipping directly through USPS for this, instead of pirate ship? Never mind I read the description lol
@TCGBulkKings Ай бұрын
Lol yeah pirate ship doesn't offer the large envelope shipping because it isn't tracked
@tri.p.a2028 Ай бұрын
Yo! I had a couple returns due to my packages be non machinable so i use all non machinable stamps but they cost quite a bit more. Do you do non machinable on all packages or do you just judge that from order to order?
@TCGBulkKings Ай бұрын
I do non machinable on all envelopes. My experience tells me the ones with non machinable postage get run through machines anyway
@tri.p.a2028 Ай бұрын
@@TCGBulkKings i figured but i had to bring a big package in one time and the worker told me they had been having trouble with some of my envelopes so i just started doing non machinable but they are almost double the price especially with the increase on postage on monday it’s gonna suck
@jacobniedermayer8924 Ай бұрын
Hey Chase! Sent an email about a package of yugioh rares I sent your way a couple weeks back, thanks!
@shiningfates5261 Ай бұрын
Im sure ive asked this before or you have answered it at some point, but where do you source your newer sets of bulk? I remember at one point you said you get cards from people who professionally play magic and discard their bulk to you, but are there other sources? Im really curious in growing my tcgplayer store. Thanks!
@DeathgripsCards Ай бұрын
Eeeeeebaaaayyyy lots of bulk can have them but there's a bit of luck. I have had bulk sellers sell me a couple thousand otj but then another send me mostly vintage-end of the old modern border it's all still gambling!
@shiningfates5261 Ай бұрын
@Packsopendaily kinda what I figured. I was hoping there was a less risky option, but I guess not. 😅 Thanks!
@TCGBulkKings Ай бұрын
Mostly at this point I either want to try opening the newest set or else I get it in bulk submissions. People turn that stuff over surprisingly quickly
@shiningfates5261 Ай бұрын
@@TCGBulkKings so you open a booster box? A case? And then sell the singles?
@TCGBulkKings Ай бұрын
@@shiningfates5261 sometimes, though not often. Mostly it comes in bulk submissions and I'm just not selling from the newest set right at release
@MrMADMADHATTER1 14 күн бұрын
More videos man!
@TCGBulkKings 14 күн бұрын
I'm trying, it's hard out here sometimes
@MrMADMADHATTER1 14 күн бұрын
@@TCGBulkKings you can do it king. You must belieeevee.
@CrypticMonolith Ай бұрын
This seems like a lot of packaging for $5 worth of cards. Couldn't you have put these in a third of a binder page in a regular #10 PWE with a non-machineable stamp and a couple of additional ounce stamps? That would be like a $1.60 in shipping plus ten cents of packaging. This is almost $3 with shipping and packaging. I won't even get out the top loaders for anything under $10 since I'm shipping those with a non-machineable stamp as well and I don't want to pay that extra 50 cents or more for orders under $10. I think you still have some cash to save here! 😅💸
@TCGBulkKings Ай бұрын
There's saving money and there's cutting corners. I don't like the binder page method because it's a big difference from my usual process of order packing, I feel like it looks cheap, and I don't feel like it protects as well. Also, don't use non-machineable stamps - they still send those through the machines almost every time. This is the process that's working for me and that makes me feel confident that the cards are going to arrive in the condition I packed them into the envelope. Also also, this order was 4 oz, and 35 cards. I wouldn't have been able to get it light enough or thin enough to qualify for regular PWE shipping anyway. Just some thoughts =]
@CrypticMonolith Ай бұрын
@@TCGBulkKings I agree that they don't look as nice. I will definitely spend a bit more to protect orders, but not a dollar more. If I get an order for 30 or less cards that will get split into 2 penny sleeves in 2 regular shipping shields because that feels nicer. Still in a #10 with a non-machineable stamp. They may or may not be machined, but my local post office won't ship them without it, and I've had a few customers shaken down by their post office for 44 cents so I just do that for all shipping shield and top loader orders. Anything over 50 cards is probably getting nicer packaging and a bubble mailer, but the 30-50 card orders are tough. I don't know about Flesh & Blood, but 35 Magic cards weighs just over 2 ounces, so a lot of that weight is packaging. Even spiltting them amongst 3 shipping shields would probably fit under 3 ounces. My biggest shipping problem is cheaper packaging for 4 cards or less under a dollar where I need to use flexible packaging for a regular forever stamp, but I don't want to use a team saver, even those cardboard vending sleeves are too expensive. Any ideas for something nicer under 5 cents?
@TCGBulkKings Ай бұрын
@@CrypticMonolith Sorry, I don't have any suggestions really for that particular area. Because I just use Shipping Shields for those. You should be allowed to send those orders via normal postage, millions of cards are sent every month that way. Best of luck though!
@CrypticMonolith Ай бұрын
@@TCGBulkKings I really should, but I live in a small town with picky postal workers, maybe I need to start driving my mail two towns over! Shipping Shield should think about an even thinner shipping sleeve or something. 🤔
@Julnlecs86 Ай бұрын
@@CrypticMonolithdo you drop them off into the drop box or hand them over to a postal worker?
@H1GHSOLXAR Ай бұрын
thank you for this video
@TCGBulkKings Ай бұрын
@@H1GHSOLXAR thank you for watching 😂
@Cygeray Ай бұрын
The chaos that is shipping. I just received a fairly large order from a seller on TCGplayer. They shipped the order in two separate stamped envelopes. >_>
@BladeGamester Ай бұрын
What’s the problem with that? Would you rather not have the order at all?
@Cygeray Ай бұрын
@@BladeGamester Did I say there's a problem? It's a video talking about how to ship cards and how people do it. But yes, there are many problems that can also come with doing that.
@VA-ng2ve Ай бұрын
I have done that a few times. I always wrote 1 of 2 2 of 2 on them. then printed out 2 invoices, and marked out which cards were not in that envelope.
@FaryaWolyo_ Ай бұрын
I do this as well as a seller. While I'm packing orders I write down the names of each buyer who is going to receive 2 envelopes, and notify them about it once packing is done. For larger orders I use the method of placing a strip of a binder sheet into a snug poly bag, wrapped in a packing slip. I do wish there was a better (more visually appealing) alternative, but I've received next to no complaints about the condition the cards arrive in, other than those that immediately leave negative reviews about how the cards "could have been damaged," but weren't. It's very possible some people received damaged cards, and simply decided not to inform me (or buy from me again. :( ) But I have many repeat customers, including those who I send cards to this way. I've shipped cards this way to peers to have them verify the condition that they arrive in, and everything seems good so far. When I pack this way, Higher value cards will be separated into the second envelope w/ card savers in team bags. TCGPlayer recently advertised an alternative to this, a more rigid plastic insert that fills the same role as the 1/3rd binder sheet, but they're so pricey it's not realistic to use them for their intended purpose, not when binder sheets seem to be working fine. I really tried to find alternatives to separate envelopes. For a long time I did large envelopes, or "flats." However, the packaging on those was awkward, and they were often returned or billed for additional postage anyway. Two envelopes is my limit, I won't separate into three, I can accept losing money on that threshold of cards, but that volume usually contains a single that makes up for the cost by that threshold. Honestly, if you order ~40 cards for like $5 on TCGPlayer, the seller's option is to split into two envelopes, gamble with their post office on mailing an ugly "flat," or just accept working to lose money by mailing as a package. I understand that stuff like this can look cheap from a buyer's perspective, but the infrastructure for shipping cards of different quantities at these price points is not as developed as many people would think; it's very DIY. Hope this helps. :)
@TCGBulkKings Ай бұрын
Yeah, and I was definitely in the "eat the cost of a parcel" camp for a long time, but I feel like this method I've settled on is clean enough to not be off putting, looks professional enough, and still saves quite a bit from parcel cost
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