i am extremely happy that a person like you exists , and does these videos , your videos and personality has been inspiring .

Nothing better than finishing school and eat watching your sessions.

Projects like this are a reminder from Tsoding to us programmers who have been worn down by industry that creativity is important and valuable, even if you're often limited in how creative you can be at most companies.

Haven't seen it yet but just wanted to say: dont let anyone get into your head, they can criticize, whine, do whatever they want, except verbally attack you. There's a fine line between those.

The idea of writing code for myself always has that "am-I-crazy" feeling attached. Hearing good engineers saying that out loud helps me keeping my sanity. Thanks for the good work!

The design is so simple yet effective! I work using gradle and don't understand everything it does and I'm probably only using 1% of the features.

Just watched the intro to 20min mark. When I first started with C about 2+ years a go, that's the thing I hated the most...having to learn Make. Once I realized Make is just compiling a string and executing that string as a command I asked myself "Ok..can't I do the same in python and not struggle with this shit"(because even now Make has some weird logic where you have to struggle to resolve dependencies with different pattern folders). Ended up making a compiler in python and even had the thing check for changed dependency files so it recompiles them. But I gave up on that project because people kept saying it won't be as fast as Make since it's single threaded and Make has multithreading and stuff...so it's fast. So I'm really happy you started doing this in C!

I like watching your videos even if I do not understang (almost) anything about C. :) I would really love watching a playlist of a C course from you!

I am trying to learn CMake yet again and the absurdity of it is now dawning on me. Now that I have an understanding of what it's actually doing (thanks to you) I keep asking myself "Why do I even need this build tool?" Thanks for enlightening me.

Library doesn't exist? Pff, we'll compile it anyway! Thanks for showing us how to do it!

"when did non-existence of library actually stop me from using it?" great question 😆

What kind of keyboard do you use (and if it's mechanical, what kind of switches are you using, how do you like these switches?)

The part starting around the 18 minute mark was what I needed to hear. Thank you

I really like this video, well done!

Tsoding, you are the best!

This is a cool project, actually. I hate dealing with build tools, I use shell scripts and considered it the most clean way to do it, but yours seems to be even more cleaner.

Since the variadic argument types are homogenous you can do this: #define cmd_append(command, ...) _cmd_append(command, sizeof((char*[]){__VA_ARGS__})/sizeof(char*), (char*[]){__VA_ARGS__}) void _cmd_append(cmd* commmand, size_t length, char* strs[]) { for (size_t i = 0; i < length; i++) { // do something with strs[i] } } You get some type-safety and you do not need a sentinel, but most importantly there is no need to remember whether it is va_start or va_begin.

is porth dead? or are you planning to return to it in the future? I think doing some AOC in porth would be fun

Epic journey!

"If you don't like the C way of programming. Fucking skill issue, don't use this shit, go use Gradle or Maven..." New favorite quote acquired, might put it on my wall

I programmed once in Warcraft 3 pre-lua language. It's funny thing very similar to very old C, you even need to first define everything in function and then goes all the code. Also all its functions for Warcraft 3 leking everywhere and has stupid limits that you still can bypass (like search objects in the area, if Im not mistaken).

Funny thing you pick on rust, you might still get inspired by the following: - the Command implementation in the Rust standard lib (similar to your Cmd) - the cc crate that is used to build & link against c or c++ libraries (rust already supports building rust project in rust by via build files)

I love this man

You said your first language was Warcraft 3 map language? I still sometimes play the classic one to this day (none of that reforged bullshit), and I'm wondering if you have any of your warcraft 3 projects somewhere?

“Api-first” is how I’ve done things for decades. Like you said, how can you know how it feels without “using” it first. I really really like re-framing it like chatgpt hallucinations!

for some reason i love your humour

cool project! FWIW I think using plain C is better than trying to imitate bash. More generally I am wary of DSL tools, they force you to install something, learn a whole new syntax and then work against you as soon as you need to do something a bit complex.

I often use that same development technique myself. I'll write the outline for something and when I need a function I'll just use it and worry about implementing it later.

How about porting Redis to nob, or some other big project as a challenge to see if the approach scales?

7:18 - you can always use variadic arguments to do this for you, when you need to add more than one argument at a time

name it knob - idk what it could mean tho, but maybe - kooler nobuild, kind nobuild, knightly nobuild, or my personal favourite kissable nobuild. (adjectives powered by chatgpt)

holy based tsoding unlocked

hello tsoding, good stream!

56:16 next project: Tsoding's libc? :)

On windows, the gcc executable is in the bin folder of mingw. So if I add it to the path variable, i just need to write "gcc". On linux I added an alias in my bashrc, so I don't have to write it out.

What's the terminal font? Looks very readable, would also like to use it.

Exactly!

Привет Tsoding! Libc implements obstacks, which are basically dynamic arenas, usefull for growing objects. So they can be used both for arena style allocations or as a dynamic array for your growing structures. They are also tunable and optimized, not like your naive implementations. All things said, I like that you show these ideas and implementations so that other devs get their things togeher! Желаю удачи в дальнейшем, твое творчество мне помогает справляться с дермокодом, который заставляют писать в универе! P.S. If you don't like stdargs, just write your own)

re: rant at 17:00, Casey Muratori is always harping on this. WRITE THE USAGE CODE FIRST!

Well tsoding, if we're including the scripting languages of games - then mine might be startcraft and warcraft III also. Hard to say, because I also messed with some MUDs around that time in VB4 (pirated from early limewire, and 6 was already standard at the time).

tsoding: "you shouldn't need a build system" me: "i don't like having to call gcc myself, so i configured make to work anywhere without a makefile"

4:20 based

how does one even reach this level of profound depth in programming (and C) apart from the obvious passion and years he has put in?

For me, I always refer macros from dk window manager, they already have macros for forEach, filter, etc. Makes C look like "modern".

Would it not be easier to just use a string cmd_append(&cmd, "-o musializer"); why type all the extra "-o", "musializer" saves all problems with multiple arguments cmd_append function later... (I know you will have a good answer!) Your coding is truly inspirational....

Have you watched Tom Scotts video 'Why are adverts so loud?' I wonder how much normalizing the audio via LUFS would affect the musializer.

can you do a tutorial on how to organize your code as a beginner? For me it was hard to follow how you jumped from file to file.

39:16 can you explain this how your code compiled without library?

why you use clang instead of gcc?

I love the idea of doing an entire rewrite with the only intention of not giving a shit about the user lol

love how you're basically complaining how c doesn't support oop lol, love the videos, keep it up

3:11 simply based

This is making me want to use nobuild. So refreshing not having she'll crap.

I am literally applauding on 4:20, THATS HOW BACK TO SANITY LOOKS LIKE HATERS

You nkow you could just... make a library and include it in stuff right ?

I watch your channel, just to remind myself after 15+ yrs of web development, I still don't know **it. :D

33:23 wow I never noticed your videos are edited. Must be a lot of work to go through such long vods. I wonder what got cut there

37:00 In a similar situation I created an array literal from __VA_ARGS__ and passed it to a function along with its length (sizeof(arr) / sizeof(*arr)) 🙃

why do you do while(0) in some of your macros?

Cool

42:12 you are correct

saying c and c++ are the same language is like telling your dear sweet mother you got her a vacuum cleaner, a frying pan, and a new dresser for her birthday to put all of your freshly pressed laundry into after she is done vacuuming, cooking for you, and washing your clothes.

I agree end's opposite is begin, as a native speaker.

Jajajaja, how many persons say anything whithout see what they do for themself? Who cares whether you do for you or for teach, is your election. I am happy that persons like you do this kind of content

20 minutes in and already laughing my ass off .. Nice job! I mean i'm just here for the coding. Yes, right. Truth.

Better yet make it a C library too and allow a program to dynamically build itself

finally I met a brilliant

thats me on 1:46:18 😎

better than CMake lol

When you realise how C works "under the hood", the varargs stuff makes a lot more sense. Arguments are pushed onto the stack by the caller, and then popped by the callee. va_arg() is basically just a `pop` instruction with type punning (although it's probably implemented as a SP dereference instead). The compiler is "getting out of the way" and letting you access the raw variadic nature of the C calling convention. Of course one could dream up much smarter ways to handle variadic arguments that are more "user friendly", but C is intended to be computer friendly - not human friendly!

How about calling the library `no` then you can actually say its full name is no build system.

Naaah.... he definitely smoked something before the stream

да форыч !

THANK YOU! It's open source so if you don't like it, fork it or use something else

Fake the library till you make the library :D

vury ged

I don't know, you C enthusiasts seem to have a lot of problems that I easily solve by installing 9000 dependencies in my beautiful nodejs application that I update three times a day (not adding features, just to continue being able to build it).

Zeroth 🎉😂

can you fix web development so it doesn't suck anymore

16:57

hey tsodin.. all of the sudden telling me to go >use maven you could just tell me to f*** myself chill dude

dlbon

How cool is it to be the bully in a youtube 2h recording? It must be hard.

You should never have cared to begin with. Conventions are for mid devs who care about "clean code" 😂

8:08 don't give a shit about other people opinions.

апенд

why are you always trying to re-invent the wheel?

New C (23) feature that is hopefully gonna be cool: embed!!! I want it NOW.

Now that I've woken up and watched the whole video, I just have one additional note. If you wanted to check for naughty characters: if ( strpbrk( cmd, naughty_list ) != NULL ) { /* wrap stuff in quotes */ } // Although I must admit that if the arguments to a variadic function are going to be all one type, the cast of __VA_ARGS__ to a type[] is definitely my preferred method. I usually avoid variadic functions and macros, but when they're the same type it's not so bad.

you just invented hallucination-driven-programming. write the code using an API you hallucinated that you have, pray a better version of you can implement the hallunicated code