When I see there is a new video from George. I open the video, let all the ads run while I am making my coffee, then sit down and enjoy. I am happy, the ad people are happy and hopefully Giorge is happy too.

If you could do the comparison video between aluminum vs wood galley I would hugely appreciate it!!! My wife and I are locked in this disagreement. Im 1000% for aluminum. The other thing maybe to touch on is long term reliability for the two, things coming out, squeeks and rattles, etc. Love your videos. Much respect to you!

I wonder how many people will remember when you explained the position of the apple boxes - LA, New York and Chicago. Excellent video, as always.

I'm a big fan of AdvancedRV here in Cleveland Ohio, but they recently had a customer refuse to take delivery of a van because it was way over weight. Mike N did a video about it and I give him props for being transparent about it. They definitely build amazing vans, but if they can't do it at an appropriate weight, that's a problem. The fact that you make it a priority from the start demonstrates your integrity. And I totally agree, every adventure van needs a reliable compressor on-board.

There are no enough words to express my strong technical interest in your videos, your builds, you are a world class manufacturer! Humble? Not at all, you have the full team aligned here, oh boy, you do such great jobs!

A list or video of the equipment you have used in your builds would be great! What has worked, what hasn't and why, as well as criteria you consider in your process.

I sold a 32 foot '53' Spartan tandem trailer to one of the Sisters on the Fly. Best choce of buyer.

A total joy as always cheers George

Great video, nice and long. Loved it, thanks George!

Your attention to detail is amazing.

Very educational and enjoyable video. Have a nice sunday.

Amazing! Banging video every week👍🏼 keep it up. So helpful to newbies, and old-bees

Good Morning George, I love your shop. its amazing 👍

I would love to see a mini me with a pop up top. Also a rock and roll bed would be interesting. I really enjoy how sensible and practical you videos are. I also enjoy your humor. Thank you for the great videos.

Thank you for ALL that you share. I'm really rooting for you, George!

Such important information. Your attention to detail is masterful.

This is fantastic! I had no idea wiring was so dang heavy! Thank you for going over all of these building specifics. I've got your channel on speed dial for when I start building out my van. My brother is a master electrician and I'm going to have him watch all your videos on the systems. It's so interesting and important to get it right!

Good morning, George. I had my first cup of coffee today with you. I completely enjoy our time together.

Happy Sunday, George. Love the video.

"I like weighing stuff." LOL, George! You are quite meticulous and I love it. 😁

Great idea on the ply vs 80/20 gallery.

Hi George Always Enjoy Your Humble Road Videos . Love Your Van Build Expertise. Thanks

Another great video George! When I 1st started overlanding, I would pack everything! Then after hanging out with seasoned Overlanders and watching videos like yours, I learned that ounces equal pounds and put my Overland build on a watchful diet… I see a lot of these van builds on youtube and some of these builders think of weight as an afterthought… Anyway keep up the usual great work! Your video production quality is top notch and makes your videos a joy to watch!

Glad you’ve done a video on build weight, I’ve the same issue building my flatbed slide-on camper for off-road. You forgot the ‘mamaluke’ weight!!!

Well done my friend. Another informative and entertaining video. Thank you

Absolutely love you videos. My wife and I are planning to purchase a Transit 350 in the next 18 months and definitely want Humble Road to build it.

What a timely video. I just started my own build, and have been thinking about weight a lot. Especially since I am building a very full featured build on a SRW van. Every single item adds up. Ounces turn to pounds, pounds to hundreds of pounds. Keeping the build on the lighter side is very important.

George, I am also saving all the bits and pieces of my 8020! Keeping track of my efficiency. Also glad to hear you have switched to the 10 series, I think it’s more than strong enough and takes up less space. Great video as always.

So many businesses in this day after COVID, are mistreating the customers. The attitudes of many seem to have changed and severely deteriorated since the pandemic. Great video as usual George. Sue from Australia.

Thank you George for using my comments about wood vs 80/20. I'm sure you were thinking about it. Glad you will make a video on it.

The most denied weights, 250-300lbs each for driver and passenger, a couple pups (for me a pair of Boxers at 75# and 80#), another 40-50# per child and their booster seats. All need to be included for the vehicle's Gross Vehicle Weight Rating (GVWR). For me, before any trip over a week, I stop at a CAT Scale to weigh in and keep it in the glove compartment as to the evidence scattered across the highway if in an accident.

Good points about vehicle weight capacity. Also, a concern for fuel efficiency.

Holy crockpot Batman #@% 😛 She's lucky to be getting a Humble Road conversion! 🚙

good video thanks

I was also ghosted by C Head after ordering. This was in the height of COVID so I gave them a break. After not hearing anything for months, I finally received my C Head Shorty but it was missing some parts and screws. It took 4 unanswered emails, a request for a partial refund (which was not challenged by C Head) and then a few more months before I received an answer. They did finally send the parts without asking for the partial refund to be paid back. Overall, very pleased with the C Head but would never order from them again. Customer Service is lacking in so many companies these days.

George, I am surprised you did not mention "Balance" or weight distribution. Having too much weight on either side of the van will cause driving instability. Also, with a front wheel drive van, the RAM Promaster keeping weight up front or at least centered is better than over the rear axle. Putting water tanks over the rear axle in a Promaster and you will get stuck more often in loose soil/sand.

Everyone should know about you! I love your level of integrity, and your workmanship goes w/o mentioning. I tell everyone I know that is in van life to follow you.

I have been using my rampdoor as a porche for years. The pymide jack you have under the right front corner can be used for the porch. They come with 11 inch adjustment. The hardware store has the same rod in 3 foot lengths. Get 3, cut, one two. You now have 3 levels of adjustment. Put a nut on the top end with nut lock. A pvc cap under the ramp Will hold the top in place. The 3 foot can be used for about 4 feet of support. I made a screen cover for a covered porch.

Another really cool trick is to make your ac compressor into an air compressor. It's something done often in the 4x4/off-road scene. Yes you lose your ac, but you gain the coolest on board air compressor.

The electrical panel and plumbing manifolds could be displayed in MOMA. My OCD agrees, they are really beautiful 🤩

here in Australia, vehicles and trailers etc can be weighed ( on the roadside) to see if they are under their gvm. weight is often overlooked. worth checking.

Not to focus on the negative part of this otherwise positive video - but my experience with C-head was similar to yours, George. A little over a year ago there was nothing on the website about lead times. We ordered and heard nothing for 2 weeks. We emailed and did get a reply telling us 5-6 weeks lead time. That would have been nice to know when we ordered and we suggested they put it on their website like all of their competitors. At week 7 we emailed again because we had heard nothing, and they didn't reply. At week 8 they shipped. They really need to hire someone just to handle emails and customer service. Get an email template, track orders, send updates. Super simple stuff here that goes a long way with customer perception.

I was glad when I saw the weight number. Wasn't keeping track in my head.

Thanks George for sharing! Like #79, view 603

This is why I downsized my dog from 100 lbs to 15 lbs, ha ha ha! I also lost weight. No one travels with me unless they are under 170 lbs. All this extra weight from Covid isolation adds up. George this was a great video as usual, though made me uncomfortable about never having weighed my rig. I will do so soon.

I hope you live to be 125 George, because I'm working on winning the *lottery so I can have you build out a van for me, but unfortunately at this point looks like it's going to take a while for the California Lottery to do the right thing. Love the videos. Always looking forward to the next one. *Not that your vans are that expensive. That just reflects my lack of disposable assets at the moment 😁

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Great video George, I’ve asked other van builders on KZfaq about how much the interior weighs and how much remains of the vehicles gross weight. Some of them build right up to the limit. They’ll say they add something to the suspension to make it ok. Such BS.

Great info George! The car dealer network will one day be licking it's wounds over the way they have treated buyers over the last couple of years....

Hi George, i built my composting toilette with a self build kit XL in a Euro-Box. Look for "Trelino" in sizes S M or L or build it kompletly on your own like me.

Great video 👌👍 as usual dear George . I am really surprised how weight adds up significantly without even recognising it. But : “ have you considered using lighter wood for panels like the ones used by Reparadise ? They are using “Ultralight” panels which are 42% less in weight , and they are also using something called “ Baltic Core Hex Ply “ with an antislip surface on one side and laminated on the other side , also very light in weight . Can you imagine using these for plywood panels , how much weight you will be saving by also using your CNC cut outs and pocketing method for weight reduction ? I think you will be saving another 25-30% easily. All these weight reductions also applicable to the cabinets , will be fantastic. I need your opinion about this George.

I've always thought you use much heavier materials than ideal for a moving vehicle but I don't know how big an impact that has at the pump, on handling and wear and tear on the vehicle. It would be interesting to see a curb weight and fuel economy comparison between one of your builds and a van build that used light weight materials and simpler systems.

Another Mini-Me? Heck yahhhh!!

I like the idea of 8020 and was going to do it for my build as I have all the tools to handle it, but I went with 2x2's because nothing I build is permanent, so if I change it later it's a wasted with the 8020. Also they nickle and dime you on all the fasteners and clips. Also 3/4" MDF isn't what you use to build with 2x2's, you use 1/4" plywood or FRP for wet areas. You can also use metal, but 1/4" plywood is more than strong enough for covering, you use 1/2" for medium duty things like building actual cabinets with no 2x2 framing, and then you using regular 3/4" plywood for heavy duty things like inverter shelves.

IME, 80/20 builds usually end up heavier, but the quality and strength are second to none. Lots of builders, unlike you Humble Road, use 15 series, when 10 is just fine, and really get crazy with the stuff putting in way too many sections of the stuff that isn't needed. The stuff is so strong, just the basics is amazingly strong. You can build very light cabinetry with 2x2s and 1/8" paneling like the RV manufactures do. Of course it isn't a high end product, and absolutely not suited for these high dollar, top of the line custom vans, but for basic DIYer, it is always an option.

For the next level of material selection and build technique, is striking a balance between rigidity and flexibility. Vehicle chassis is not rigid driving over uneven roads, so either the buildout needs to flex with it or needs to be isolated with sufficient compliance, otherwise the buildout will slowly come apart and be noisy. Wood can be a great material with the right technique. Boats and airplanes had a long history build out of wood, problem is most van builds use ether house or furniture construction methods that are suitable for stationary environments. An alternate design shown recently (one is vandermoon) for upper cabinets is a fabric design with internal panels to support and hold the shape. Sounds like a good opportunity to reduce copper usage. For short runs, gauges could be reevaluated. AC 12awg only needed for highest power appliances, typically for induction cooktop and outlet at the galley. May be able to go to 2-wire. Vinyl plank flooring is as bad as using ceramic tile is vans. Weight and needs to float while perimeter needs to be sealed from water egress. I've recently finished my two bathrooms where this works fine. Large temperature swings of a van compounds expansion/contraction that can open up seams to dirt and water.

8020 is more feasible if youre running a shop and can work with it, but, wood is far superior for a diy build even if it ends up weighing more. 8020 is also multiple times more expensive than wood, those cuts offs are worth a fortune

I'm glad you agree with me George - I've been telling my wife that weight is important in the van, the less the better - I now understand why the dog was so uncomfortable in her doghouse - it is quite cold in here.......

Sisters on the Fly! I am a member. It is a women’s outdoor group.

I haven't built my van yet but have been thinking about gas consumption and weight. I never thought of it from an insurance coverage standpoint. Thank you.

Wonderful video, thank you for sharing your time and knowledge! Thinsulate, which thickness do you use... the SM600L or the SM400L? I'd planned on using sheep's wool until this video... thank you!

Thank you for taking the time to read and respond.

A good use for the cut off 8020, check out brian oltrogges channel and the bespoke drawer pulls he cast. I think they would work well in a van as you wouldn't catch clothing on them and they look amazing. You could design something similar and cast your own humble road handles/pulls etc

ok you talked about 80/20 10/10 vrs 15/15 ... could you do a video on what you would use what size for what and why?.. think it could be a great video

Always appreciate the time you put in on these videos George. Question, have you determined yet how much weight went into your last couple, full-size vans?

Great video as always! I always wonder why you don't build your systems on 24v. Practically everything you have for 12v also works on 24v. The weight and $$$ (cables, charge controller,etc) savings are well worth it. It would be great to know your reasoning for staying with 12v vs 24 (or even 48v) for systems over 1000w.

15:20 he bucketized his cut offs, so organized!

Love your videos! Love your attention to detail! Have you thought of making a recirculating water system for the shower? I see some builders doing it to make the water last longer.

Another great and very informative video. Thank you Can you please explain to me when or for what purpose you use the 10 series, when the 15 series and when the 20 series Thank you Regards, Marcel

Just curious, George, have you considered a ready made “solar generator” for any van builds? How about garden variety fountain water pumps since small ones are lightweight and last for years ? You use a lot of connectors in your plumbing, is there a way to use more flexible tubing to eliminate some elbows or maybe a pre fabricated manifold? Thank you sir.

George, You need to bring the vans down to the CAT scales and weigh the Van before you start project and then do it afterwards. That way you're customers know exactly how much weight that they can add to the van. Everybody that has Van to R v's should always Check how much weight they are carrying. And I agree with you if you are overweight and get in an accident you will not be covered. There's so many van builders that will put so much wood in their van and not think of the consequences of weight. Also if the highway patrol pulls you over and end up weighing your vehicle and it's overweight it's being towed and you're not driving away with it.

"I like weighin' stuff" 😂

If that's the case, it's not an accident but negligence on your part. I'd love to hear what someone in the insurance biz tell us what the potential outcome to such a situation would be via reply.

Great video George! Is balance as important as weight?

I went back and forth constantly about building my upper cabinets from 15 series vs 10 series. I ended up with 15... It's great but could possibly be lighter and cheaper. I'm building out my galley and bench seat soon. Could you give a brief rundown of when you use 10 series now and when you use 15 series? I'm interested in if you've starting doing 10 series for most of it, what's the breakdown in terms of parts of the van? Bed made from 15 series for strength, seats and galley from 10 series to save weight?

Along the same lines as weight, I wonder how many people think to look up the vehicle's payload (not forgetting to add how many humans will be in the vehicle and their weight)? Because payload plays a factor as well. I've been researching modern boat building techniques because they're using fiberglass (or *gasp* carbon fiber) and foam core construction. What I'm really looking at is a combination of 80/20 and foam-core/fiberglass construction. All in an effort to save weight.

Most illuminating, George. Thanks. When you do your comparison between 8020 and wood, please enlighten us how to obtain 8020. For instance, do we have to know precisely how much to order, how long delivery would be, what all the connections would be and would cost, etc., and how that compares to a 10-minute drive to our local lumberyard - especially if we've run short. Will you be comparing stick-framing (2x2) and/or 'carcasses' (ply) with 8020? If you are only comparing the types of built, no doubt you'll see that stick-framing will be a lot less rigid for that "earthquake', as you term it, without some sort of 'skin' to secure it. One-quarter inch ply skin to both 8020 and stick-framing would 'up the ante' on a wood build for sure, but I imagine would do very little for the 8020 build. I'm looking forward to your video, then.

Do you run a spreadsheet for the weight of components as you design them in? I can see that being useful in the early design stage where you estimate how how much material you will use and decide whether it's too heavy. I'm curious how much the aluminum connectors weigh compared to the extrusion itself - I bet it really adds up. Weight can trip up the best of them. There was a recent ARV creation (B-box IIRC) that they had to take back and refund the customer because it was overweight. They probably calculated it up front, then fulfilled more and more customer dream desires without tracking the weight budget until they took the finished project to the scales. Oops.

George, do you mind sharing the brand of your flooring? It is beautiful, can't seem to find anything like it (especially the 50 shades of Gray version). Appreciate you and your humor!

More is less, Less is more!

If you were building out a 170 WB Sprinter standard not the extended how much weight does your total build add to the vehicle weight? I would love to see the difference in weight of two kitchen modules one built with 3/4" plywood and the other with 1" 80/20

I have an order out to C-Head as well. I’m worried about timing now and hope the company renews its integrity. I can’t believe they’d actually choose to stiff us all and destroy their business.

George: have you considered the Separett brand toilet? I've heard many good things about them.

I would be interested to see what the weight is when you 1st get the van from a dealer and after the build is complete. That's why you know the exact weight you added to the Van.

Out of curiosity, can you estimate how many feet of 15 80/20 you use in a normal High Roof Extended build?

Along Cape Cod, the various vehicle beach access locations all have a tire air station at the entrance to alleviate the need to carry your own on board. I’m shocked that all municipalities don’t offer the same, for safetys sake.

One other thing I forgot to ask George. Do you use 10 or 15 Series for your galleys? Thank you

Hi where can we purchase the click lock flooring you use in the above video thank you

Thanks for the super helpful videos. They would be even better if you showed the kilogram weight onscreen for your non North American viewers. Millimetre measurements would be amazing too but I suspect that’s a request too far. Keep up the amazing craftsmanship, I love your design principles.

Any plans to build out a Ram Postmaster 136" wheel base, high roof?

Good morning George, What thickness of tongue and groove do you use? I have seen wall panel as thin as 1/4". I know you want strength as well as beauty.

A company is only as good as it’s customer service. Looks like C Head is not a company worth doing business with. Thanks for the insight.

I was wondering if i can install a Fantastic fan in my suburban?

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What brand are you liking these days for a baby microwave? They weight adds up quick!

I have seen all of your videos, and learned a lot every time. This is the first time I have to complain a little bit. Why imperial? Sounds like you are talking chinese this time 😆

Remember that credit card laws time to dispute bad transactions is only 60 days. Some cards give you 120 days to dispute. You need to put in a claim before the time runs out. Merchants are well aware of these times a s well.

How do potential clients get hold of you about a van build?

so,, if I'm small I can have more stuff 😎lol

Do you still build vans? I haven't seen work on the Ford's in quite a while. I really enjoy these master class videos though, so I'm not complaining. I've picked up more than a few tidbits of good to know info in just the last couple of sessions. I'm just curious George; ~82k subs can't enough for you to stop doing, and start teaching. So what gives George? Supply chain issues behind C-Head?