How India Hit It Out Of The Park With Legendary Brahmos Cruise Missile | In Our Defence, S02, Ep 21

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In this episode, host Dev Goswami and defence enthusiast Shiv Aroor delve into the cutting-edge advancements in India's missile programs and the coveted missile technology programs at large. They examine two significant tests: the successful launch of the indigenous Nirbhay cruise missile and a new variant of the Medium-Range Ballistic Missile, both of which showcase India's technological prowess.
Why is the Nirbhay test off Odisha's coast a monumental achievement for India?
Why is exporting homemade BrahMos, India's iconic missile, to the Philippines a significant development? BrahMos is gaining traction and making a resounding impact in international markets, including Southeast Asia and Africa. Some countries in West Asia have also expressed keen interest. This global interest in BrahMos is a testament to India's growing influence in defence technology, sparking intrigue and awareness among our audience.
Listen in to know more about India's growing prowess in missile technology.
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Timestamps:
00:00---00:57- Introduction
00:57-7:34-Two missile tests briefed
7:34-13:20-What’s cruise & ballistic missile
13:20- 21:14-Let’s Talk About the Brahmos
21:14-25:45-Is Brahmos nuclear capable?
25:45-34:30-Why did we develop Nirbhay?
34:30- 39:54-SCALP: A stealthy cruise missile
39:54-47:36-India’s self-sufficient missile program?
47:36-52:06- K-4, K-5 missile testing
52:06-59:45-Misfiring from India to pak
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@Sachin-rm6du
@Sachin-rm6du Ай бұрын
I had accidentally discovered this amazing podcasts only few days back!! Man i have become a fan, especially after watching Shiv Aroor's. Great insight and extremely informative. One of kind on defence technology.
@rathanapparathanappa5077
@rathanapparathanappa5077 Ай бұрын
BRAHMOS Missile being in our inventory is a blessing & superb thing to possess.
@rahulkapur687
@rahulkapur687 Ай бұрын
When a missile program makes you feel warm and fuzzy...there's at lot of love involved 😉... Hats off to our highly skilled home grown engineers and scientists, women and men ! 🙏 🇮🇳
@djakaonlineacct3634
@djakaonlineacct3634 Ай бұрын
Bramhos is something we can be proud of. Excellent podcast as always. Waiting for a one regarding special forces in all branches of indian armed forces.
@Infinite77789
@Infinite77789 Ай бұрын
We need this kind of podcast on every sector be it education, economy, finance, arts, etc
@ashwwal3409
@ashwwal3409 Ай бұрын
There is a flurry of missiles test by India . Well done .
@sb9060
@sb9060 Ай бұрын
Three caveats:- 1) Shaurya , Agni-P, Pralay are quasi ballistic missiles. 2) Modified Agni-III, Agni-IV, Agni-V may be ballistic in nature but they don't follow predictable ballistic parabolic path after re-entry. 3) All Indian SLBMs follow the same characteristics as missiles of point (2) referred above.
@shivanshwadhwani4417
@shivanshwadhwani4417 Ай бұрын
so india has no fully capable ballistic missile?
@subramanyamraju9738
@subramanyamraju9738 Ай бұрын
​@@shivanshwadhwani4417 That is the one you should answer yourself
@shivanshwadhwani4417
@shivanshwadhwani4417 Ай бұрын
@@subramanyamraju9738 if i knew the answer then why would i be asking it you fake smartass.
@srim2213
@srim2213 Ай бұрын
Unpredictable path? u mean it may not be accurate? Haven't come across any article on Agni mentioning this. Please provide a link if possible.
@sb9060
@sb9060 Ай бұрын
@@srim2213 unpredictable for the adversaries...because it won't follow ballistic parabolic path... Hence logarithms in anti ballistic missiles' RADAR become incompatible to predict the path it re-renters in... It's in the public domain... You can search n be satisfied...
@vinaydrm9953
@vinaydrm9953 Ай бұрын
Govt should take as national project Astra mk3 sfdr Brahmos 2 hyperSonic K 6 slbm 5th generation jet engine AMCA Light tank & future main battle tank Aura / tapas 2 drone TEDBF Nuclear attack submarine Aircraft carrier nuclear propulsion 55000 ton atleast 100 spy satelite
@harishrao1856
@harishrao1856 Ай бұрын
What is the timeline of these projects?
@AliZee909
@AliZee909 Ай бұрын
With cocnut chutney or red chutney sir?
@spikeguard
@spikeguard 26 күн бұрын
Adding to this list.. EMALS for the next aircraft carrier
@vijeshwar.8157
@vijeshwar.8157 Ай бұрын
So educative podcast...Shive Aroor G is an outstanding archive of knowledge...
@jayakumarpaliyath
@jayakumarpaliyath Ай бұрын
Very good programme, appreciate both of you
@sujatachokhawala2734
@sujatachokhawala2734 Ай бұрын
Bring on more
@varoonshekhar4023
@varoonshekhar4023 Ай бұрын
It's by all accounts a very good missile, unique, or at least very rare. It's definitely been a success
@RohanPandhram
@RohanPandhram Ай бұрын
Loved this conversation ❤looking forward to more such content
@themtoniraniremaxbroker2447
@themtoniraniremaxbroker2447 Ай бұрын
Absolutely Riveting!!! Thank you Gentlemen from Canada!!
@Tushar78664
@Tushar78664 Ай бұрын
Critically relevant topic, intense focus, expansive narration ! Thank you for this treat, Mr. Goswami & Mr. Arooor ! 🙏🏻🙂 And of course, IT !
@harshahalsur8843
@harshahalsur8843 Ай бұрын
Nirbhay vs bramhos 1. Cost and range. 2. Land target don't have so much ad As much as ship. 3. Nukes fail safe mechanism r not garunteed aginst such high speed. Extreme acceleration and heat..pressure built up. But these can be overcome
@yerrakrishnarao8041
@yerrakrishnarao8041 Ай бұрын
Well said dear friend,a like from my heart.
@michaelburman8059
@michaelburman8059 Ай бұрын
Loved the episode
@AMen-yw9cr
@AMen-yw9cr Ай бұрын
Extremely fascinating podcast!
@Vinay-Venky-Pinnamaneni
@Vinay-Venky-Pinnamaneni Ай бұрын
Trivia: How many of you know that "SWAMIYE SARANAM AYYAPPA" is the battle Cry of Indian Army's unit that's in charge of "BrahMos!?"
@rageshbateriwala8175
@rageshbateriwala8175 Ай бұрын
Excellent view on India's prepardeness.
@amitmehra31
@amitmehra31 Ай бұрын
Love the show ❤️
@sb9060
@sb9060 Ай бұрын
First point of suitability of Nirbhay vizaviz Bhramos- Nirbhay is way cheaper than Bhramos.
@draloksharma
@draloksharma Ай бұрын
A sweet happy podcast
@braddbradd5671
@braddbradd5671 Ай бұрын
News from today says India have developed new alloys for the fins of jet engines so now that basically means they can make there own super sonic jet engines .This is the last jigsaw in the jet engine puzzle that India needed
@abhijitsoman3116
@abhijitsoman3116 Ай бұрын
Shiv Sir, there appears to be a lot of confusion in our mind. You are comparing RAM Jet engine with a Jet engine. These are two quite different systems. RAM jets don’t have moving parts and a Jet engine (or a turbofan Jet) has several moving parts. The complexity begins with “METALLURGY” of turbine blades and it’s dynamic balance when it’s rotating with superfast speed inside. I think India is struggling with stable performance of turbine engine that can produce enough thrust. Otherwise, we already have developed Kaveri engine which is a Gas Turbine Engine.
@lochanraj5028
@lochanraj5028 Ай бұрын
Good podcast. In formative
@lalitmohan6511
@lalitmohan6511 Ай бұрын
Sandeep Unnithan has already left India Today. The day Shiv Aroor does it , it will be end of the road for India Today
@psvasu23
@psvasu23 Ай бұрын
The BrahMos was developed from Russia's NPO Mashinostroyenia (NPOM) P-800 Oniks family of cruise missiles, through a joint venture between NPOM and India's Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO), named BrahMos Aerospace.
@Olive_Chap
@Olive_Chap Ай бұрын
main issue with Bhramos is we can't fit it into our 21inch torpedo tubes & to put it on Tejas MK1a or MK2 is nightmare in term of maneuverability for the delivery platform.. hence we need JASM or Storm Shadow like missile which we could even fit into our AMCA weapon bay & ITCM advantage is comparatively cheap missile which could also be put into torpedo tubes of our subs
@thedroidbha
@thedroidbha Ай бұрын
India really needs to focus on engines of all types. We're far far lagging behind in various types (jets, turbofans, missiles, ship, electric, diesel, tanks etc etc) of engine manufacturing.
@sayandeychaudhuri8588
@sayandeychaudhuri8588 Ай бұрын
Very good
@sujatachokhawala2734
@sujatachokhawala2734 Ай бұрын
Interesting, a newsanchor with real research!
@sritulasibangalore
@sritulasibangalore Ай бұрын
SUPER SHIV JI
@rahulp7313
@rahulp7313 Ай бұрын
Brahmos NG test next year. Even its going to integrated with LCA tejas
@manisherande4568
@manisherande4568 Ай бұрын
yeah with obsolete underdeveloped tejas... scrap tejas get one lines of each rafael and grippen... it will go long way
@shalikmnongbri
@shalikmnongbri Ай бұрын
Amazingly informative podcast as always.. how @ShivAroor came back with the acronym MTCR just a min after missing it and saying "I'll get it in a moment" 23:53 was just "badam kha lo supremacy" 💀 Have we ever done a podcast on the IAF's TACDE unit ? If not, it'll be a great session I believe..
@chadbernard2641
@chadbernard2641 Ай бұрын
I am going to assume he doesn't know that Zircon missiles are in service and have been used in Ukraine and have be measured at Mach 9+ powered flight from beginning to end. Also oniks and bramhos almost identical and new oniks has 800km range. Bramhos is a great missile though.
@BalancetheKeyinanyargument
@BalancetheKeyinanyargument Ай бұрын
Hey Shiv & Dev ( kinda a bit curiosu if the naming was planned or the jodi was planned names wise :) ) ! But either ways you guys do a wonderful job , the only podcast I follow religiously is this . Kuods , fantastic discussions .. My 2 cents on possible Topic for future discussions : 1. Indian Navy growth and Construction of force , sub surface or above surface - is the 3rd Carrier coming ? hows our submarine force doing and how well will we fare vis-a-vis Pak china ( elephant in room) are we covered for our horn of Africa to mallaca starit responsibility , how are plans for our various bases going , do we plan to allow and keep quiet on the "research ships" of china coming up whenever they wish and observer our missile tests? 2. Indian army Guns - both small arms and big guns - ATAGS, DHanush , and other Vajra .. hows that cooing up ? is the Arjun just a placeholder or will it actually see more use and more volume production instead of token 100 now 100 then orders ( Our current tank force needs are 1000+ tanks - T90's make the buk ) - whats being done about the extra weight on it?
@Infinite77789
@Infinite77789 Ай бұрын
There are many defence related channels, it would be great if you could invite them as guests
@rahulp7313
@rahulp7313 Ай бұрын
Air launch version of Nirbhay already in testing phase trials in next year
@braddbradd5671
@braddbradd5671 Ай бұрын
Like China is the worlds factory India should be the worlds missile provider
@mirchirock
@mirchirock 10 күн бұрын
The Brahmos NG Mark 3 is the Hypersonic Brahmastra. Just wait for this! (6 months).
@bala09sundaram
@bala09sundaram Ай бұрын
Would love to hear the secretive nuclear submarine story. Pls make a podcast on this.
@deepakvaidya311
@deepakvaidya311 Ай бұрын
Pls cover the Tejas program end 2 end
@harshahalsur8843
@harshahalsur8843 Ай бұрын
Bramohs speed Mach 3. That I 1km per second. 300km will be 5 minutes. Take acceleration course correction etc. 300km is abt 6 minutes. Enemy radar can detect it at abt 25 km.. gvinng hardly 30 seconds for enemy to detect, track, and fir country missile.
@RajaLakshman
@RajaLakshman Ай бұрын
🪷🙏ஜெய் ஸ்ரீ ராம் 🙏🪷
@rahulanand4385
@rahulanand4385 Ай бұрын
Please bring up topics like special forces ,air defence
@shivaroor
@shivaroor Ай бұрын
Soon
@pd4002
@pd4002 Ай бұрын
Brahmos is a minor upgrade of the Russian P-800 missile that has been used in the Ukraine war by the Russians.
@amiindra
@amiindra Ай бұрын
It’s not minor upgrade
@bikashgupta6383
@bikashgupta6383 Ай бұрын
👍👍👍👍
@pravinmeher2036
@pravinmeher2036 Ай бұрын
I left the debate once I found that they don't even know MCTR is an abbreviation of what? And they think they have the authority to talk about brahmos.. was not expecting this from Shiv.
@vidhikalaria8201
@vidhikalaria8201 23 күн бұрын
Podcast request : A detailed episode on PM Modi's spontaneous visit to Pakistan. *The rationale behind the visit *Security challenges *Havings balls to land in Pakistan😅 *Assuming it was Pm`s firat term , was it naive of him to do something like this * The action plan if anything went wrong And any other pointers you can think of. Not much in extreme detail is supposedly available on the internet about this .
@rushiraikar3644
@rushiraikar3644 13 күн бұрын
Why the thumbnail of nirbhay when the podcast is about brahmos?
@ranviryadav2528
@ranviryadav2528 Күн бұрын
Mach 3 missiles cannot match the map in fed in memory with terrain features.. That is why India needs Nirbhay which can at Sub Sonic speed can fly of all kind of terrains.. Brhamos flys over Sea where no terrain mapping is required..
@geekmails
@geekmails Ай бұрын
why they are more worried about the sexiness of the missile? lol 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@tamenator
@tamenator 2 күн бұрын
Brahmos bringing sexy back 😮
@rajdeepnath1633
@rajdeepnath1633 Ай бұрын
Pls add some pics with your already fabulous podcast. It'll increase your lethality by Mach-2.
@nishantshrivastava9674
@nishantshrivastava9674 Ай бұрын
Actually Indian airforce has multiple kinds of air launched cruise missiles.. Brahmos and Kh59, KH31A on Su 30mki Stormshadow on Rafale Israeli crystal maze on Mirage 2000
@shivaroor
@shivaroor Ай бұрын
Mentioned in the pod :)
@nishantshrivastava9674
@nishantshrivastava9674 Ай бұрын
@@shivaroor Good morning Sir..i think crystal maze and Kh31, Kh59 got missed in Podcast. Another Air launched rocket cum quassi ballistic missile Rampage is new addition. Sir can u tell why Rampage isn't getting integrated with Tejas though tejas has still no ALCM??
@vinaydrm9953
@vinaydrm9953 Ай бұрын
If possible please add photo, animation, video....in between podcast...so that it would be more interesting for listener
@BalancetheKeyinanyargument
@BalancetheKeyinanyargument Ай бұрын
Then its no more podcast - (the idea is to just listen ) , adding anything changes teh nature of the construct!
@sayandeychaudhuri8588
@sayandeychaudhuri8588 Ай бұрын
Missile technology control regime
@vpk21
@vpk21 Ай бұрын
When will Brahmos -2 materialize? The news about Brahmos-2 is going on for 7-8 years
@sharthakghosh970
@sharthakghosh970 Ай бұрын
No the Russians refused to help with the air launched version, because they didn't want to go ahead with it. Infact they said they won't be supporting the Sukhois if India went through with it.
@psvasu23
@psvasu23 Ай бұрын
The important point missed out here while comparing cruise missiles and ballistic missiles is not just being sexier as described here...! Both have entirely different mission objectives. Ballistic missiles have a larger payload & range capability than current generation cruise missiles. For short range warfare , cruise missiles are ideal given their stealth Nature.
@ojharatn
@ojharatn Ай бұрын
Why the missile mishap not treated as a sabotage to give Chinese the access to critical components of bramhos?
@agarwalfamilybhagwatgita4617
@agarwalfamilybhagwatgita4617 Ай бұрын
Very informative 👍
@shivanshwadhwani4417
@shivanshwadhwani4417 Ай бұрын
yeah but you also have to be able to test systems across weather conditions. If you aren't testing because of heavy clouds then well what if there's clouds during wartime and your missiles fail. But if you test with clouds and heavy rain then you see where you fail to collect data and make it full-proof and fully-tested, not partially tested only in ceertain ideal weather conditions.
@harshadpatel136
@harshadpatel136 Ай бұрын
Tajas will have too
@kashyapkhandelwal7687
@kashyapkhandelwal7687 Ай бұрын
My doubt regarding Brahmos is, since it's a joint project by India and Russia, does India have the resources to manufacture it on its own and ensure timely delivery? Do we still have a significant dependence on Russia to produce Brahmos?
@abhianusaeesoman4182
@abhianusaeesoman4182 Ай бұрын
Shiv Sir, there appears to be a lot of confusion in your mind. You are comparing RAM Jet engine with a Jet engine. These are two quite different systems. RAM jets don’t have moving parts and a Jet engine (or a turbofan Jet) has several moving parts. The complexity begins with “METALLURGY” of turbine blades and it’s dynamic balance when it’s rotating with superfast speed inside. I think India is struggling with stable performance of turbine engine that can produce enough thrust. Otherwise, we already have developed Kaveri engine which is a Gas Turbine Engine.
@spikeguard
@spikeguard 26 күн бұрын
Please have a separate channel for this show and such discussions so we can subscribe only to this content.
@gaurav2k
@gaurav2k Ай бұрын
Has india started mass producing these missiles to be ready for eventualities?
@NeerajSingh-fu6rj
@NeerajSingh-fu6rj 2 күн бұрын
NEW DELHI --- The trials of the air-based version of the next generation BrahMos missile (BrahMos NG) will begin in late 2024, says BrahMos Aerospace CEO and Managing Director Atul Dinkar Rane.
@shishirsks
@shishirsks Ай бұрын
Whenever India has been pragmatic to collaborate, we have been very successful. Brahmos, LRSAM(Barak), Prachand, Tejas(Engine). You leave everything to the DRDO babus without oversight, they are sure to mess it up! Edit : Missile program was successful due to ISRO. People forget, Dr. K was imported from ISRO for this project!
@vineetraina119
@vineetraina119 Ай бұрын
Better than watching election shows.
@chitchatter-ib4fl
@chitchatter-ib4fl Ай бұрын
India needs to build an engine with radically new technology. doesn't need to copy cat what is already out there. This will impact other industries as well.
@triochansingh5083
@triochansingh5083 Ай бұрын
Hypersonic cruise missiles with nuclear warheads are the weapons of the day. Both air and submarine launched are vital for deterrence. L
@praveensharma1643
@praveensharma1643 Ай бұрын
Defence expert Missile Technology Control Regimen
@mahanagarjuna
@mahanagarjuna Ай бұрын
Dr Satish Reddy DRDO Chief made it possible.
@user-ju7rz6zt7q
@user-ju7rz6zt7q Ай бұрын
No mdiji daawlp did develop this manmosing tam bat anttalitan menistatar U O K E
@mayureshmodak
@mayureshmodak Ай бұрын
Thts a Nirbhay on video poster and not a Brahmos
@broto8
@broto8 Ай бұрын
Will that incident with Brahmos fired to Pakistan mean that they can reverse engineer a Brahmos a Pakistani version?
@honestpetvideos9307
@honestpetvideos9307 Ай бұрын
I disagree with shiv on the point of nirbhay only being used for land attack , and mostly nuclear.. Cost of brahmos is much higher than nirbhay and to hit a ship you are using supersonic missile only is an idea of contention, itcm will become our main stay for navy along with brahmos .. We are going to increase the number of vertical launchers in our future destroyers and most of them will contain subsonic cruise missile along with brahmos and barak air defense
@ramsusarla1217
@ramsusarla1217 Ай бұрын
Can the crashed Brahmos be reverse engineered ?
@sb9060
@sb9060 Ай бұрын
Completely destroyed. It caught fire.
@kapa5970
@kapa5970 Ай бұрын
And that is what is needed​@@sb9060
@mehakanand123
@mehakanand123 Ай бұрын
If you have classified information then its your responsibility not yo make it public. Hopefully agencies are listening and safeguard important information.
@samyachakraborty263
@samyachakraborty263 Ай бұрын
i stumbled upon this podcast series a couple of days ago , now i am running out of content
@adamsinghlealadhar6234
@adamsinghlealadhar6234 Ай бұрын
We are talking about these missiles and war machines we have. Just move away and think for a while that a tiny place like Gaza has withstood the might of the world now lasting nearly 200 days. With huge improvements in Pakistan's Turkish and now Iranian drone and fighter jet capability, thanks to our trading friend China, another Balakot would be a disaster. Last time the Americans managed to persuade Pakistan not to go ahead with their massive retaliation plan after the Balakot attack. We may not be so lucky this time. Unless we have the Israeli Iron dome defense system, we may not be so safe after all. This is the reality.
@praveenshukla4477
@praveenshukla4477 Ай бұрын
Dont be specific or devote major time to specific topic but also cover other developments.
@harishukla3569
@harishukla3569 Ай бұрын
Calling election as Tamasa is highly objectionable. People stand in scorching heat for hours as they feel that this is serving to the nation and it is insulting to them. You must apologise to them you don't have to say such things to show you very knowledgeable and Elite class 😳
@An1Kum
@An1Kum Ай бұрын
BrahMos is just a variant of Russian Oniks P-800 😂
@arunavaroy5889
@arunavaroy5889 Ай бұрын
It's wrong to say DRDO built top class missiles.look at nirbhay,so many failures.Drdo succeeded in Prithvi and Agni is due to ISRO sharing navigation and rocket technology. Plus missiles are a force fit to services since you can't buy
@strato1917
@strato1917 Ай бұрын
What about the security breach at Brahmos Aerospace? What a laughingstock we make of ourselves thanks to red tape related lapses.
@reganjoans
@reganjoans Ай бұрын
Two duds
@varoonshekhar4023
@varoonshekhar4023 Ай бұрын
Dud message. What are you saying? The Brahmos missile is definitely not a dud.
@user-hz8fk1vg8c
@user-hz8fk1vg8c Ай бұрын
When anchor is with lie with his profession then what do you expect from this country
@blackcat-mp7kh
@blackcat-mp7kh 20 күн бұрын
we have faster missiles than bramos then why so much hype hype about it ?
@oneworld633
@oneworld633 Ай бұрын
Atmanirbhar Bharat bogus in Defence industry progress!!! Needed Bramhos Range 3000 km Hypersonic missile!!! Develop Kinzel missile technology like Russia That' master key if achieved !!! But no Hope, chance even turkey, Azerbaijan could do but no India when comes to Drons, missile, jet engine technology!!! Even iraian, Hamas can give good news but not DRDO, ISRO !!! It's fancy dress 👗 Compitation Missile for decoration painting 🎨🖌️ for 26 January !!!!
@indophile108
@indophile108 Ай бұрын
India will need a million of these if they do work as anti-ship missiles. China's production capacity to build ships is around 200 times that of the US. China no doubt is and will build a large fleet of ships.
@RP027
@RP027 Ай бұрын
Why thumbnail shows Nirbhay if the discussion is about brahmos... Shows how clueless you guys are..
@sarvabowmaathmakoori7858
@sarvabowmaathmakoori7858 Ай бұрын
Discussion was good, but too long. It should have been short and crisp. 😡😡😡
@sekharkishore2418
@sekharkishore2418 Ай бұрын
Hindi bolo, kya sharam ati hai.😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@pradeepsaral6944
@pradeepsaral6944 Ай бұрын
Boring and confused post.Could have shown some visual presentation / charts to explain how a ballastic missile moves on a parabolic path,how different type of cruise missiles move.A picture is worth 100 words😅.Sorry to infor. after getting bored with timid dull storey telling ,I was compelled to swap the channel. By the way question to Missile Expert- how Missile can be an animal? How it can b saxy ? At least choose words properly .
@alpineflieger4363
@alpineflieger4363 Ай бұрын
Russia provided the Tech, Russia knows the quality of Brahmos and probably has better missiles than the Brahmos. This fellow attributes his nonsensical fantasies to other nation states motivations 😀 Too much jingoism, and jargon and too little substance... of course, the young 'nationalistic' crowd gets drawn by that. All cruise by definition are subsonic, The Tomahawk is battle tested since the Gulf war and the most successful program. All of the Indian missiles are not battle tested, and probably never will be. India ought to focus more or regular military hardware viz., Shells, Guns, Artillery. Rocket systems, Radar systems.
@nastybadger-tn4kl
@nastybadger-tn4kl Ай бұрын
DRDO sucks.
@user-rb9mi4ow4c
@user-rb9mi4ow4c Ай бұрын
You sucks, not drdo
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