Japan then is not like japan now, 3,5 years of japan’s colonialization in indonesia is worse than 350 years of dutch colonialization

@@thebinalz Sadly like other ex-colonizers, Japan refused to openly admit the wrongdoings they did. This is shameful to my country. I am surprised that Indonesia has made a lot of progress like now. Indonesia in my opinion is not a backwater country anymore, with huge over 1 trillion GDP, Indonesia is not a country to push over. If Indonesia can make use its domestic market at maximum, Indonesia can be an economic powerhouse.

It's all good now. We Indonesians dont hate Japan because those who colonized us were just some greedy people and did not represent the majority of Japanese, who are friendly to foreigners.

It's disgusting that Japan government covered up all their crimes in WW2 all over Asia. No wonder so many elderly Asians still hate Japanese so much. Just like my parents.

true 😂😂 we did not speak Dutch nor Japanese not even Portugies.

Fact till now

That is why there is the term "mempertahankan kemerdekaan"

Yups... The Netherlands is an aggressor...

Dutch not surrender but. We never surrender tho

Dutch has officially recognized Indonesia's independence in 1945 in their parliament recently.

Yeah !

Same as US. Although Britain recognized US independence in 1783, the official year of US independence remains 1776.

yesss betul sekali

@@dragonemperor202 what do you mean by lost? there's no such a thing as 100% win in reality. if what you meant by losses was human lives, resources, etc. and you can check every nation that wanted to go into independent path, wouldn't get recognised by their 'supposedly superior'. just a simple google research and you could find dozens of em.

@@theoddplebs its loss of everything... They win because the nuance of the world are against colonization, Indonesia are forced to do the negotiation agreement because they lost the war... Even their president are captured and their capital are moved, in a desperate attempt they sold themselves to the USA by selling the Papua to freeport mcmahon and signed the agreement to pay the war loan almost 1 billion dollar

technically speaking you could say that a military aggression is a form of conflict

@@axelrmr To say only conflict is to not tell the whole story, which is a form of manipulation.

@@feelcollins4358 ahhh i see

yeah the word Dutch aggression might be in every single Indonesian students notebook by now

No, clearly they(Dutch) did, this is not about perspective, stop hypocrisy statement about "perspective", that's such a bullcrap

Yeah ! From August 17, 1945 Indonesia fights Dutch as one whole country. That's why

Basically you are living in circle of slavery but you are happy but own nothing... You own nothing but fell happy.. Soekarno is also Same part of global elite, is all Stage.. Drama.. Meanwhile you don't understand the story'. Wkwkwkwk

@@iwansimatupang7772 wkwkwk im so smart

@@iwansimatupang7772 ya sudahlah bang, keluar sana, cari negara lain kalo nggak senang disini.

@@iwansimatupang7772 penghianat bangsa. Hush hush sana sana.

"Achmed Sukarno" is never his name indeed. But he used it when it comes to international delegacy, let's say it's for the purpose on his pasport. Since I doubt people use single name at those times. As for his name, indeed his birth name is Kusno Sorodiharjo. But there's story when he still young, he often get sick. Thus his father changed his name to "Soekarno" since birth certificate isn't a thing way back then. "Soe" means good, while there's several interpretation behind the meaning of "Karno".

@@spacetator69 he never used the name ‘Achmed’ as such. Whenever asked whether ‘Achmed’ was his name, he pointed out that the only name he had was the name given to him by his parents, Sukarno. But he didn’t mind it either, as the name أحمد has a good meaning in Arabic (‘praised’). As for the origin of the name ‘Achmed’ we don’t know for sure, but the most popular theory that it came from Indonesian students in Egypt. According to historian Rushdie Hoesein, Indonesian students actively campaigned for Indonesia’s independence within the years 1946-1947 using Islam as the main sentiment to gain Egyptian support. When asked whether the president was a Muslim, a prominent student from Indonesia named Zein Hasan claimed that the president’s name was Ahmad Soekarno to prove that he was indeed a Muslim. That was how he was known as Ahmad Soekarno in Middle Eastern countries. The theory was, the Western media picked it up from there, and as they’re not used to the idea of having a single name, they happily accepted it as the truth. The name ‘Achmed’ is specifically popular in German and Dutch where it fits their orthography. Birth certificate has always been a thing even since colonial time, known as ‘geboorteakte’ then. Going by only one single name is normal in Indonesia, it’s not until recently that the government changed the regulation for passports to have at least two names on them. सु- (su-) indeed means ‘good’ or ‘pure’ while ‘कर्ण (karna) is a character from Mahabharata, his name bears the meaning of ‘ear’ in Sanskrit. In common Javanese dialect ‘karna’ becomes ‘karnå’ but transliterated as ‘karno’ due to limitation in standard Latin alphabet. Hence ‘Sukarno’ means ‘good Karna’ (Karna was loyal to the antagonistic Kauravas in Mahabharata) or ‘good ear’ or maybe a ‘good listener’ if that sounds better.

@@kilanspeaks this is great explaination, I have lack of knowledge about his delegacy toward middle easts and the birth certificate during the VoC/dutch era. Thank you kilan

Haha, "Suharto", get it?

​@@exxonityy5822 nope

It is not a Dutch perspective at all, I'd say its an american perspective rather

Make sense, remembering they have the manniest nukes in the world

Yes, and Soviet had full support to Indonesia during conflict with the Dutch on New Guinea, Indonesia military become the largest in the region during the conflict, due to soviet military equipment flooded Indonesia and big war after WW II would be started and escalated immediately. USA know this and withdrawed their support on the Dutch, this made the Dutch under power against Indonesia Military, then they're retreated.

You're making it seem that it's okay to invade other nation.

@@gold9994 no. I did not. I am instead purely amazed by the indonesian spirit to determine their own fate.

This is quite interesting

The Netherlands has officially recognized Indonesia's independence in 1945 in their parliament recently.

@@aryw8634 yea bro thx for the info, i just google it, they admitted Indonesia independence day, but sadly they still cover the war crimes they ever did

​@@milluka9262 they apologized for the crime they did

@@gamestorynyc2420 yeah surely they did, and at the same time, they don't investigate it, or charge a ppl thats responsible for it to court

@@milluka9262 war crime court is not important, less indonesia could be sued by timor leste too. indonesia is not anti dutch, like timor leste believe in the saying `let bygones be bygones`......but what's important is the annoying west papuan separatists who claimed that papua was a separate colony.....it was a separate colony only because the dutch took it in 1949 (until 63).

I wouldn't call 300+ years of being colonized "crushed"

@@SetiKt compared to other, then yes.

Yes, we are. While Indonesia is not a first world country, I find living in Indonesia quite comfortable and you can practically do anything you want within the boundary of laws

Kita di jajah 40 tahun, sisanya monopoli dagang

@@user-cv7wz8sc8j sarua we eta mahh... podo ae. and i dare to say, that the richness of the Dutch get by now is the richness they "steal" from Indonesia

I mean, can you blame them though? A lot of folks have mostly moved on, though I doubt it will be forgotten entirely.

I see no one in indonesia hating the netherlands now

@@harmacist6623 never will be forgotten. So we never forget those bitter lesson of never let European do those damages ever again. And can you say Europe stopped trying? After many times they use UN or NATO to bully Indonesia, just recently forcing Indonesia to export nickle in raw conditions and cheaply. Which Indonesia rejected vehemently and equate it like when Netherland forced Indonesia to planted Tobbaco and Sugar Cane during colonization.

I see no one in Indonesia hating the Netherlands now, now it’s a different era, not the colonial era Many Indonesians study and vacation in the Netherlands every year, there are also many Dutch tourists in Indonesia, especially to Bali and climbing mountains in Java The past is enough to be used as a lesson, move on and don’t let it happen again

@@tjlu47agree and now I’m married with Dutch guy , well I guess Indonesian people has moved on and we living in different areas and sorry for those suffering during Dutch colonial

I dont agree with you. Iam Indonesian, our country achieve National by blood, not easy man. Because Dutch don't want give up. We fight for that. You don't know anything man ...

@@aang807 I don't mean to discredit your ancestors' effort to gain independence and I might have worded it wrongly. Yes, some countries such as your country might get independence eventually without ww2, but for how long? It is undeniable that ww2 helped the process of independence become quicker because not only dutch weakened but so does Japan during their occupation. Without ww2, Dutch might have firmer control over their colonized lands and independence won't be any less easier.

​@@cobaren5883 fact

not entirely but in certain aspects yes, the most important part is that we had been weaken by the "devide et impera" strategy of the dutch and some of our Ancestor have finally overcome that, then we become stronger by uniting vision of one Nation, our first President was a good diplomat to gain support from other Nation to finally winning Indonesia as a free Nation

Fact Many Country Get Independence from Colonialism Because UN And Superpower Country (USA And USSR) Don't Agree Colonialism Because When Country Still Attacking People And Colonies That Violates A Humanity Issues

Welcome to European hypocrisy sugarcoated with empty terms like human rights, democracy, freedom of speech

Until Indonesia pays up....

bahasa means language

​@@supreme_noobgg233 The Indonesian language is often referred as Bahasa

@@radityaerlang9206 i know

@@radityaerlang9206 while it is often, I still think that it's cringe. It's just like calling the English language just "Language"

@@radityaerlang9206 and it's stupid, just call it Indonesian, instead of bahasa. it's so cringe every time i hear it.

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Big respect... Rest in peace 🍂🥀

Respect

My great grandpa also fought

And i"m so glad that he did comply. If a country surrender during a war, its colobized country will be given to the winner country. If soekarno didn't proclaimed independence, we would be back under colonization

Oh yeah I forgot the part where Soekarno and Moh Hatta was literally kidnapped by the young revolutionaries lmfaoo

you beat me to it! it was the most fascinating part of the event imo. rengasdengklok event was the moment our youth showing off their massive balls lol, they literally call japanese vice admiral and ask a place to stay preparing for script and declaration

Yeah, i was gonna comment that, "no soekarno didn't took his chance to declare indonesia independence, the younger revolutionaries 'convinced' him to"

Thank God, the young revolutionaries kidnap Soekarno, if they didn't do it, our history Will never be the same

The photo show Suharto and his wife Mrs Tien.

Admin nya mungkin gk terlalu kenal sama 2 tokoh itu bg

Namanya mirip maklum sih, tapi ya tetep koreksi aja.

i notice that too

Indonesia declared itself independent on 17 August 1945, however the Dutch didn't recognize it and tried to come back with force. In december 1949 the Federal Republic of Indonesia was created and this time with Dutch cooperation. After 8 months this F.R. of Indonesia was disbanded and became part of the Unitary Republic of Indonesia. Until now the Dutch has refused to recognize the date of Indonesian Independence in August 1945.

@@harryblack7323 yup, it is like what I said. Based on the jure basis only the dutch that did not recognized Indonesia in 1945 until 1949 but in the facto Indonesia already got its indendepence in 1945 and also already recognised by some countries.

@@ilhammustofa7305 There is a difference between the Unitary state Republic of Indonesia (independent since Aug. 1945) and the Federal state of Indonesia (which existed from Dec. 1949 and disbanded in Aug. 1950). So far the Dutch have only accepted the creation of the Federal state of Indonesia.

@@harryblack7323 I know that both, I understand what were you saying and your statements are correctly right. Here, I just want the author know about this based on the jure and the facto basis if Indonesia wants gain its independence during 1945 and 1949 because there are 2 versions here in 1945 was Indonesian version and in 1949 was the Dutch version. Thanks

Bukan ada kesalahan. Lo aja yg sewaktu guru menerangkan sejarah di sekolah, kamu malah sibuk ngupil & menjilati upil itu..wkkwkwkwkw 🤣🤣 semua orang yg sekolah nya bener pasti tau, bawa kemerdekaan Indonesia tahun 1945 hingga masa sebelum konfrensi KMB ,masih sifatnya kemerdekaan secara de facto (punya pemerintahan, ada rakyat, punya undang2 dll), nah pasca pengakuan kedaulatan oleh belanda di KMB , maka kemerdekaan Indonesia sifatnya secara de facto & de jure.. Paham kamu ??? Jangan merasa ahli sejarah klo kamu lebih banyak ngupil daripada membaca buku wkkwkwkwk🤣🤣

Bos, ada pepatah "sejarah ditulis oleh sang pemenang". Dunia ini abu2, kalo anda percaya mentah2 pelajaran di sekolah, ya sorry to say, masih banyak fakta2 yg tidak ditulis di buku sejarah

@@ericww1993 memang benar sejarah ditulis demi kepentingan masing2 negara untuk memperthankan martabatnya, kemanusian no sekian, seperti westeriling si penjagal bagi kita penjahat perang yg membantai ribuan masyrakat sipil, bagi mereka pahlawan negara, ya itu salah satunya, faktanya negara kita memang dijajah oleh belanda segala sendi kehidupan, tanah, hasil bumi mereka kuasai keseluruhannya, sistem perkauman, yg memisahkan masyarakat berdasarkan kelas mereka lakukan guna memecah antar anak bangsa, para bangsawan mereka jadikan mandor "romusha" bagi rakyar mereka sendiri, seperti tanam paksa kerja paksa, catatan sejarah mungkin tidak akurat, tetapi apa yg dirasakan oleh rakyat saat itu mengakar kuat di benak serta pikiran mereka yg akhirnya mereka kisahkan dalam sanubari para keturunan mereka yg diceritkan baik lisan maupun tulisan, mungkin foto atau vidio singkat dizamannya dan bagi mereka/pihak belanda para pejuang adalah extrimis yg harus dimusnahkan.

wkwkwk

Sebenernya sama aja, disaat bangsa indonesia bersatu kemerdekaan tinggal menunggu waktu

Oh gak gitu. Sejarah itu 100% propaganda.

semua penjajah eropa saat itu intinya gitu, gak hanya belanda, perancis juga menjajah ulang indochina(vietnam dll). tapi harus dinyatakan eksplisit bahwa belanda (mencoba) menjajah ulang, karena gara2 belanda balik stlh proklamasi, maka papua jadi lepas sepanjang 49-63. kalo gak dinyatakan eksplisit, banyak orang gak ngerti sangkanya papua itu koloni yg berbeda dari hindia belanda, padahal sama, mereka hanya beda krn belanda "(mencoba) menjajah ulang".

@@iwansimatupang7772ya semuanya budak dong kalau gitu. Di negara barat pun pajak itu tinggi dan lebih keras & ketat malah. Stop trying to sound smart because you sound really dumb + your comment stinks like youre poor.

if that uk Gen you mean is Gen. Mallaby,, it was actually such a tragedy. he was accidentally caught into shooting around dutch marines which guard a bank and several indonesian militia..

Basically you are living in circle of slavery but you are happy but own nothing... You own nothing but fell happy.. Soekarno is also Same part of global elite, is all Stage.. is a Drama.. Meanwhile you don't understand the story'. Wkwkwkwk

​@@iwansimatupang7772 memang bagaimana ceritanya? Ditulis di buku apa? Atau hanya bualan konspirasi yang terlampau gila

​@@iwansimatupang7772 kan emang yang penting hepi pak.

Soeharto 💪

Yup a grave error. I felt offended a little bit.😅

Pak pekoB

I’m glad to see you here Marco! 👍

No, Indonesia is also under British but third party is under Mughal Empire.. Indonesia name is create by British..

@@iwansimatupang7772 nama Indonesia berasal dari peneliti Jerman

Malaysial merdeka hadiah dari ratu inggris😂 Malaysial tidak punya sejarah .

😂😂😂😂

got it for real

Lol....

Cringe

Indonesia : Woouuhhhhhhh, WASSUP MOTHERFUCKER, did u miss me 😚

Tidak akan mungkin, krn semua negara penjajah yg memberikan visa kepada negara-negara jajahannya adalah negara telah yg dimerdekakan oleh negara penjajahnya/sudah berhasil mempunyai pengaruh besar yg tersembunyi pada negara-negara persemakmuran tersebut meskipun rahasia dan tersembunyi Contohnya Inggris dan negara-negara jajahannya yg diberi visa gratis! It will not be possible, because all colonial countries that provide visas to their colonized countries are countries that have been liberated by their colonizing countries / have succeeded in having a large hidden influence on these commonwealth countries even though they are secret and hidden For example the UK and its Commonwealth countries which are given free visas! Het zal niet mogelijk zijn, omdat alle koloniale landen die visa verstrekken aan hun gekoloniseerde landen, landen zijn die zijn bevrijd door hun koloniserende landen / erin zijn geslaagd een grote verborgen invloed uit te oefenen op deze landen van het Gemenebest, ook al zijn ze geheim en verborgen Bijvoorbeeld het VK en de landen van het Gemenebest die gratis visa krijgen!

"En tot" ☠💀😭😭🖐

BelANJING is netherDOG

@@Comrade_Veteran11bjir beneran en tot dong 🥵

wkwkwk@@Comrade_Veteran11

same ,my grandma just told me about it, she was 7 years old at that time

Lol... If you feel Independen is myth.. . freedom is a myth.. Proof you still pay tax, everything is tax... Everything is tax . Than you still believe you are independen... In Batavia Era, there is not many Tax.. To build a road also, they use their own money not yours... Now, on.. 75 years you are in circle of slavery but you feel happy because your minds is null About the real.. Is all lie to you and human

"No Indonesian speak Ducth" Soekarno: am i joke to you?

​@@blanc6519 i think they mean for general everyday use, no one here speak dutch as their daily language lol

​@@blanc6519bro you tried so hard to sound smart but you sound quite the opposite.

Me too !

Leopold was way worse

Japan had already lost the war by then

They already did that very recently.

and i guess it need another century for the dutch government to acknowledged it in their hearts well at least a progress is still a progress.

the Dutch governor must pay-back 4,5 billions Gulden to Indonesian governor then.

@@sebastiangiovinco2871 I doubt they'll do it because there's no honour among thieves.

@@needmorequarts1081 okayy... then don't blame the Moroccans, Afrikans, or any other ethnic that seems create "riot" or sort of "invaded" to their country and another EU country, and seems the Governor cannot do anything about it. because it was karma taking place i guess.

@@sebastiangiovinco2871 Nah. Just acknowledging the fact would be enough. Maybe just put the new independence date in their history textbook or something. Money wise, my ancestors gave them so much, they can never repay.

Sebenarnya banyak sih negara/kerajaan lain yang berdiri atas perjuangan, belum ada menjadi ada dengan mengusir pihak yang menduduki nya, misalnya Belanda itu sendiri mengusir kependudukan Spanyol lalu membentuk negara Belanda, lalu Inggris yang mengusir Viking, Indonesia tentunya, Amerika Serikat, jangan lupa Turki, Mesir, lalu negara2 di Amerika latin seperti Argentina, dll.

@frankagustinus5508 yg anda sebutkan negara2 yg sudah berdiri pada awalnya kan? sebelum di invasi sudah ada nama negara tersebut? nanti deh aku googling. Komenku adalah sambung lidah dari statemen Pak Mahfud MD

​@@frankagustinus5508 Amerika ? Amerika bukan mengusir Penjajah tapi merekalah yang menjajah dan membunuh kurang lebih jutaan orang asli tanah Amerika atau yang sering disebut Red Indian.

Papua is not indonesia free papua

@@richarddawson5502 Free sarawak💛

@@richarddawson5502 free for aborigin land in australia..

@@richarddawson5502 free for palestine

@@muhamadnasib1781 imdonesian army massacre native papua

NO

@@duncandl910 why?

Indonesia who’s the one pays to the Dutch cause of the greedy queen Juliana of Dutch not only money but everything

Like they care about paying reparations..

Even thou the Dutchs paid reparations the money will going to some government officials pocket...

I read every single comment! Thank you for expressing your gratitude and I’m glad it was helpful.

@@HindsightYT Wow! I actually never thought you would read your comments, since there are many comments. You must be a really amazing person to have to persistence to do this all!

@@HindsightYT you make so many mistakes, do your research properly

Because japanese realized that they would lost in WW II. So japanese promised independence for indonesians. It was atomic bombs in Hiroshima and Nagasaki that changed all. Japanese surrendered to allied. So there was a vacuum administration in Indonesia. The Independence was declared as soon as possible. So our independence was not japanese giving.

on the behalf of Indonesians : HELL FUCKING NO! we are under new WORSE management, if we have to give our thanks it will be for USA to NUKE Japan.... TWICE, everytime i saw documentary how brutal it is the nuking, i cant shake the feeling well, sorry for your sacrifice, but we wouldnt hope another way because of the pain you caused us, but yes those innocent shouldnt be the consequences for that. and yes we did got help from japanese, but fuck japanese of that time, we rather be colonized by deutch again or even british than japanese, those clusterfucks was brutal only in fucking 3 years compared with deutch that colonized us in 3 fucking CENTURIES, we did forgive them now but a scar still there. we just recognize our japanese hero Tadashi Maeda and NO ONE ELSE

They were looking for quick support, so they promised to help by establishing the institution that helped indonesia prepare for independence in exchange for soldiers and compliance. Although they probably didn't planned on giving Indonesia actual independence

1949 adalah puncak perjuangan kita bersama soviet waktu itu kita di kroyok banyak begara di kawasan papua

A lot is from old news reels and archives in the US, which are partly digitalized and publicly available. If there’s anything specific you’re interested in tracing down, let me know and I might have the source somewhere.

​@@HindsightYTany links of the websites?

What do you mean?

@@hebneh Which one? Indonesia one?

@@hebneh Then it last until 21st century. Indonesian colony of East Timor became independent in 2002. Come to think of it, there is another Indonesian colony of West Papua that has not been liberated.

@@boulderbash19700209As an Indonesian, I acknowledge that East Timor (Timor Leste) is not part of Indonesia, this is evidenced by that East Timor is not a Dutch colony, while all parts of Indonesia must be former Dutch colonies. Indonesia did make a mistake by invading East Timor, although in fact it recruited East Timor into a special province, and prospered it. However, due to different historical backgrounds, we (Indonesia) had to conduct a referendum so that there would be no bloodshed. Meanwhile, for Papua and Aceh, it is still historically bound to be part of the Dutch colony. If all Austronesian peoples were united, then this country could stretch from the Philippines, but all of them have different histories.

It is hard when Europe & even America are colonists

​@@ArYzal9427Indonesia mempertahankan kemerdekaan dengan peperangan bukan seperti raja semenanjung bersulang wine ketika anggota British turun dari pesawat masuk ke istana yg di pertuan agong wkwkwkwkwk Seketika tuan ku daulat yg di pertuan agong keluar dari dalam goa kesayangannya sambil teriak merdeka... merdeka wkwkwkwkwk Tidak semudah itu penjajah merelakan negri jajahannya untuk merdeka pulang dengan tangan kosong ada perjanjian Commonwealth yg kami kenal selama 999 tahun. UMNO cerdas pandai menyembunyikan kemerdekaan halusinasinya dari rakyat sendiri dan bodohnya rakyat pun percaya 😂😂😂😂 Tahniah yg di pertuan agong kahkahkah

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Indonesian-American Association Works 🇮🇩🇺🇸👍🏻

Mostly Adobe After effects.

Communist try to infiltrate and steal the freedom they didn't even fought. While the so called "Islamist" try to seize the promised that been Betrayed by Sukarno.

​@@jejakinsaniDarul Islam Kartosuwiryo West Java is result of Linggarjati agreement who make Soekarno administration look weak to Dutch, that also making Communist dissapoint too. You talking about Darul Islam Aceh Daud Beureuh its different year in 1950s because Aceh want to be separate province from North Sumatra

Good Question 🇺🇸🇮🇩

yeah, and we had to pay for like 80 years

Yup, that's Soeharto

yes, thats Soeharto, no Soekarno

They literally colonized Java for 350 years while they literally lost all domestic wars in Europe and were undoubtedly the weakest European imperial power. Lol what does that make you😂😂😂

Palestinians were indeed the first to recognize Indonesian independence in late 1945, but Egypt was the first whole country to recognize Indonesian independence in early 1946

It has cost Indonesia a lot of blood, sweat, tears and money to become independent. Without struggle and diplomacy, Indonesia could not become independent.

are you kidding? where are you from, you make arguments like that are you originally from Indonesia? My only thought is that if the country is independent, you have to pay better if we go to war again. understand it in your mind

@@harryblack7323 if my country was formed without war then why did the westerners conspire to bring down my country? my country for the sake of independence is willing to fight against anyone, my country last fought against the British allies even though by ganging up solo vs squad.🤣🤣🤣🤣

Guys it is true. You can google it. We paid this mf alot of money. But it was something we wish Dutch would offer. When they finally offer the win win solution we took it without second though. Better than sacrafice more live from both parties. We don't have to feel ashamed of it. Many of Invaded countries in Africa are still under rule of its former Colonizer whereas Indonesia is fully free.

en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Indonesian_National_Revolution?_x_tr_sl=en&_x_tr_tl=id&_x_tr_hl=id&_x_tr_pto=tc

He is dutchie

@@TheFreyand yes, that's why the historical story won the Dutch, even though the story is wrong, Indonesia became independent in 1945, the Netherlands surrendered to the war in 1949 because they lost the war because Indonesia was also supported by the United States and the Soviet Union at that time.

Bcoz of Japan soft power supremacy

you don't understand our history, japan empire were founded by the netherland to international in 16 century, while malay kingdom were sabotage from international in 16 century, for example denmark-uk-bantam sultanate relationship just because of catholic war, indonesia is not recognize until 19 centuries, netherland become the international leader which is a form of corruption they don't want to look not nice, when japan attack, indonesian is happy not because we like japan but because we got out of "isolation, prison and free from 300 years iliteration and no education" we feel something finally changed, but they gave us different suffering mostly physical tho, white ppl interacialism with indonesian is a form of socialist propaganda we don't find it ethical because asutronesian study are not yet happen we will lost our authenticity, also east-asian immigrant hate for being left alone with no documentation no interacialism and batavia massacre in 17 centuries done by malay protestant and european. due to this we don't hate japan because dutch-east indies is dutch republic of asia not malay republic so it is netherland-japan problem/war not us and it already done with philip-sony relationship, while the netherland left us with communist republic and no international relationship but none-sense discrimination about little things like humanitarian issue that mostly misunderstood and some shit, even tho netherland should be the one who introduce us to the world. we choose who to hate and we wise about it, our problem is within the republic we simply not yet have any history with the emperor.

It's the ancestors did the crime.. Not the descendants.. Indonesia seek for peace and freedom, not war.

And i still don't get why you guys hate past as if you never learn anything from it

@@bamantioindrahidayat1165 there is nothing to learn just a politic and europe history

ya, ini video berisi detail yg kebanyakan orang indo gak ikutin. seringnya orang indo taunya yg ditulis buku pelajaran saja, tanpa mengetahui detail. contohnya anda sendiri, nonton video tapi gak nangkep pelajarannya (berarti juga gak mendahami detailnya). padahal sudah disebut KMB 1949 itu gak termasuk papua/merauke.

Itu hanya ganti nama.. Awalnya Belanda hanya buka kota perdagangan. Bukan Negara.. Nama Negara itu milik Bangsawan Jawa artinya Kerajaan.. Jadi Negara itu artinya Kerajaan nama Negara sudah lama ada sekitar 500; Tahun.. Contoh: Bojo negoro dsb nya... Jadi siapa sebenarnya yang menjajah?? Kerajaan.. Negara itu ya Kerajaan. Sedangkan VOC cuma kota perdagangan, jualan. Ibarat Buka Mall.. . dilain sisi Saham VOC juga bukan milik Belanda sendiri semua Raja kampung ditawarkan beli saham VOC.. itu Abad 16-17... Jadi bukan penjajahan

Kalimatmu dari sudut pandang orang Belanda"berdasarkan keputusan belanda.... 😂