A reminder that Angel filed a discrimination suit against the MLB because he never gets World Series gigs and the government literally came and legally determined that he's bad at his job.

If you know an umpires name, chances are they are terrible at their job

Never forget that a federal judge claimed that it wasn't racism behind Angel not getting World Series gigs...just sheer incompetence

Pat and the boys should get the folks from Jomboy Media on the show so they can just run an hour long slander piece on Angel Hernandez LMAO

Mcafee show allowing their guests to speak uninterrupted level impossible

Love when they talk over the guest then immediately ask a question about what he just explained 🌚💀

Angel Hernandez is the single biggest driver towards fans actually wanting an electronic strike zone.

Jesus Christ if Pat would just let Jeff freakin explain. Damn.

I hate they just mock baseball every time Jett is on. He's trying to give real info about umpire changes and they won't even let him speak.

Its ironic that the union keeping Angel Hernandez employed could be the ultimate downfall of umps in general. You'd think they'd realize he's going to get them replaced.

"If whats good for baseball, is ruining baseball, thats the most baseball thing of all time"😂😂😂😂😂😂 but seriously the minute they introduced showing the strike zone on tv for the viewer, the change should have happened.

Steve McMichael threatening Angel after singing the 7th inning stretch at Wrigley is legendary. Mongo was so drunk!

You have go to be kidding me had me rolling lol

Angel Hernandez should only be allowed to ump A’s games in Oakland. That limits the amount of fans that have to watch his garbage.

I don't think anyone has united the whole baseball world as much as Angel Hernandez has

"DEY TOOK 'ER JERBS!!" -Angel Hernandez

CC makes a good point with catcher framing. That's a large part of how those guys get paid. I can't see a single catcher wanting a fully automated system.

I'd like to hear what Jeff's saying instead of Pat interrupting everytime he opens his mouth. Pat loves the sound of his own voice

“A lot of jazz cats are blind, but they can play the piano like nobody's business. I'd like to put a piano in front of Angel Hernandez and see what happens.” - Creed Bratton

Pat is getting where he likes the sound of his own voice. He'll ask a question and talk all over his host trying to answer!!!

A broken clock is right twice a day which is more than Angel.

Why even bring Jett on the show if you’re just going to shout over him the whole time and not listen as he’s trying to explain things to you?

Jeff Bagwell was on the Astros broadcast during that game. He even said “If I’m a pitcher, I’m throwing outside of the zone all night.” It’s sad pitchers have to adapt to Angel.

Jeff is like a dad taking to his teenage boys. 😂

Teams need to boycott games that he is the ump.. MLB will make changes once they start losing that coin!!!

I don’t know if Pat drinks 10 Monsters before the show, is doing cocaine, or both. He cannot sit still and listen for more than 1/2 second.

The "you give em an inch, they take a mile" bit had me laughing! Great rebuttal. Red Sox guy is awesome. Jeff seems nice, too. I watch you guys during football season. But you all talking baseball is my new favorite thing! I hope you have more baseball takes and you better believe I'll be doing a deep dive after this. If there's not any secret network beef I would love to see Jonathan Papelbon on the show! To talk about literally anything.

Big baseball fan growing up, stopped watching about 15 yrs ago until all balls and strikes are robo-umped. And challenging is stupid when we’ve had the tech since back then to have it perfect every time.

I'm looking forward to any automated version

Angel Hernandez is my favorite umpire, because he's leading the charge for those supporting getting rid of umpires.

I never understood why the Umpire stands behind the catcher in order to make calls. It would be so much easier and accurate to call strikes from like the second base umpire lol

Thin CC Sabathia is such a jump scare

We could get an Enrico Pallazzo impersonator back there!

Expanding your strike zone as a pitcher when you see strikes off the plate probably helps cause you don’t know when you can’t trust them to be as liberal in other parts of the zone

Angel Hernandez stopped trying 10 years ago! You can tell it's so obvious and the so called commissioner Manfred doesn't give a damn!

Pat please get Jomboy on the progrum

Come to an Indianapolis Indians game, who Paul Skenes plays for, right in your backyard and see this challenge system in-person. I believe they have a home series starting this Wednesday!

Vegas has to be the biggest opponent to the robot ump.

You would think with a strong union eye glasses would be included in the package.

They look like strikes to me! It's where the ball crosses the plate, not where the catcher catches the ball 😂

Angel hernandez has been absolute horrific umpire for thirty one years

Give the umpire vr glasses with a strike zone implemented

3:14 Cyber Stadium Series: Base Wars on NES 😂

Angel Hernandez is the reason we all know there is an umpire union

Angel is bad in the field too 🤣

If you know the umpires name they are terrible at their job.

6:08 I like the idea that the home plate ump becomes the dog from Duck Hunt.

Nobody ever confronts Unions about their responsibility to provide skilled competent employees to the employer. Everyone should be crushing the union to put a decent worker on the field and not a clown.

You gotta hand it to Angel. It's mesmerizing to watch a guy be so consistently terrible at his job, never improve, and have the absolute gall to try and sue his employer for discriminating against him when he's literally the worst umpire in history.

Officiating in baseball can almost be completely done with robotics. Baseball is very black and white sport to call for the most part.

That catcher deserves more credit for framing those pitches

NEW PROPOSAL: MLB and the Umpires Union should work it into the contract that whenever ANY umpire scores below a certain grade or percentile, they should be REQUIRED to use the automated balls/strikes system for 10 games (or whatever is determined). This would actually show an umpire what actual Balls and Strikes look like for 10 games. After 10 games, they go back to being on their own for as long as they can maintain an acceptable rate of proper calls

I've seen him call a strike on a ball that bounced off the ground in front of the plate. That was years ago... he's been bad forever, maybe always?

The automated ball/strike system works really well in AAA- players being able to challenge calls has introduced a lot of fun tension too.

Teams should refuse to play when Angel Hernández is at Homeplate

Tennis has the same challenge system. No reason the MLB can’t do this except the umpire union

In Triple A baseball Mondy through Thursday the robot umpire thing they have calls the balls and strikes. Friday through Sunday is the challenge system which is no robot umpire.

Glad Pat watched baseball for the first time ever apparently.

Unions doing what they do best, making robots look like the most attractive options.

“OUR BATS TOO??” killed me 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Lmfaooo 5:12 “so like the final 2 minutes of the half?”

I’d maybe watch baseball again if umps were challengeable. The main reason I got turned off baseball was the umps and how long it takes between pitches.

Angel Hernandez is basically becoming the Stalingrad of the Umpires Union right with MLB. They’re trying so hard to win the battle over him that they’re losing the war to keep all other umpires behind the plate. Hernandez incompetence is so profound, and the response from the Union so pathetic, that the fan base is turning on umpires. By the time he retires a lot of other umpires will be forced into unemployment when balls/strikes are determined by robots.

The teams should refuse to play the next game he's behind the plate

"Giving the outside corner". Think Passan meant to say, giving the opposite batter's box" 😂.

This is a perfect example of how unions can be AWFUL. These umps don’t need a union to demand better pay or more favorable working conditions, they have a union in place so they can be completely incompetent at their job….. and still be able to keep it. This ump has no business being anywhere near a baseball game.

Passan getting worked hard today with the Angel questions. Rich Eisen went off on Angel too.

"If what's good for baseball is ruining baseball then that's the most baseball thing of all time." Truer words have never been spoken

Angel Hernangez has been quietly quitting for years

Pats “they took er jerbs” is fu king hilarious

If the zone is consistent for both sides it's I can live with it. There is a video on YT about Kerry Wood's 20 strike out game and they clearly said both pitchers were getting a margin because they were so consistent.

I was getting into baseball a few years ago but I backed out when I learned of this ump

Unions do nothing but protect ppl who are bad at their job

Gotta remind you guys of Pat Holberg, the antithesis of Angel Hernandez. Give Pat some love when you can, dude called that Perfect game in the WS.

Im mexican. The "And send it all to their families" line was incredible 😂😂

Devil Fernandez is the absolute worst. If you have to sue to get somebody to get them to say your'e adequate at your job, you suck. Alot.

Angel Hernandez is an epic troll 😂

How often are they doing baseball content now during nfl offseason? Cuz I’m absolutely here for it

Your next interview should be with the AAA players hitters and pitchers. And ask them what they think about the system.

The MLB should definitely implement a challenge system....would also add so much more value to the role of a Manager

Homeboy never got a word in 😂

For anyone that doesn't understand how unions work, there's one main reason they can't fire him (or anyone that's part of a union anywhere) and it's Attendance. Basically, if you're a garbage man, an umpire or a cop, etc. that shows up to work when scheduled without fail, you're basically untouchable. You can steal, lie, abuse and even murder people (like cops) but as long as you show up everyday the union will find a way to keep you employed. Unions are great when it comes to protecting good workers but scumbags like Angel Hernandez are unfortunately allowed the same protection. If I were MLB I'd fire him, give him a huge severance package (cuz you'd have to) and make him sign a NDA. Then once he's a private citizen I'd ban him from all Major/Minor League Baseball parks and activities.

The strike zone is 3 dimensional, not the flat rectangle that usually is shown. Also the top and bottom of the zone are pretty subjective as the batters moves around, squats more or less, etc. How would a computer deal with that?

Unions always protect the laziest and least competent employees

Here is the question, How is his calls when he is working the bases? Can MLB remove him from behind the plate?

The younger umps being brought in are actually super impressive. A few years ago someone started releasing ump scorecards and it seems like a lot of those guys started to take more pride in their jobs. Now there's an added level of excitement where umps have the possibility to call a perfect game where they make 100% correct calls. I dont think the MLB needs robots, they just need to hold their umps accountable. Every ump should have a performance review at the end of the season and they get promoted and relegated solely based on their performance. If you cant hang in the MLB anymore then you get sent down just like the players do.

At the bottom left you can see the second base umpire. and even he is like "wtf". he just freezes in disbelief lol.

Konami already did this by way of Cyber Stadium Series - Base Wars back on the Nintendo. Robots playing baseball but they allow for fighting to depict safe or outs. Because owners got tired of paying players. Needs a remake!

When Jeff says there are worse umpires in MLB, I'm guessing he's referring to CB Bucknor.

4:46 so basically like Tennis when you look at it that way it’s a lot simpler

My question though is would the batter be able to challenge the call as well? Because if the umps calling strikes 7 inches off the plate the pitchers obviously not gonna be like. Actually blue that was a ball tighten it up back there. So does it go both ways with the challenge?

I hate how umps have their certain "strike zone" how about you just use the damn PLATE as reference I died when connor said "OUR BATS TOO?" fuckin love that guy

I'm on board with the robo umpires. Still need umpires to make calls on the field, call people safe, call check swings, HBP, etc. But the balls and strikes needs to be cleaned up.

I think we will find out eventually that he has had a friend or family member placing low key bets on games. You can bet on all kinds of micro stats now. For example, how many strikes a pitcher will throw in 3 innings, or the total walks in a game. Those are stats an umpire can effect with little attention. Line up one friend to bet on low key stats, and you can rake in lots of money in small increments. And his beef with not getting a World Series game gives him opportunity and motive. Along with the motive of personal enrichment. Employees who steal are often unhappy with their employer, and use that to justify their actions.

Angel Hernandez got his ass BOOED in London in 2019 - honestly, thousands of miles away people knew the guy was a bum & let him know all about it!

Besides rewarding good pitching and making batters cover the WHOLE plate the robo ump will allow pitchers with great accuracy to thrive whereas now those guys actually get shafted way too much for a painting a corner. Batters would just have to adapt to the real zone and wait for something they can hit just as they do now

I think the "Sweeper" and Cutters are hard for the umpires to figure out especially the umpires that have long tenure. The sweeping of the ball from when it breaks is too confusing for umpires. I think they feel that the ball is clipping the front corner of the plate and then it looks way outside when it hits the catcher's glove. Or they make a decision on the call at 6 to 10 feet in front of the plate. This being said, the umpires need to adjust to the new game and learn to make the call correctly. I also want a camera above the plate so we can all see a 3D viewpoint of the zone

Issue with robot umpires is that when the ball would bounce off the ground into the strike zone, it would still be called a strike

Imagine Danny devito eating a Sub and calling strike 3 on Aaron Judge behind the plate at an MLB game! 😂😂😂

Cricket already has a built in automation tracking system like this. It's not flawless just cause tech will always have some limitations, but generally the amount of bad calls is low.