How Is Kayak Plastic Made and Tested?
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Күн бұрынIn this video I do a factory tour of a Kayak Plastic Manufacture. We cover all the Testing and Processes that it takes to make the best kayak plastic for all types of kayaks.
I added Chaters so you can skip to any parts of interest.
Big Thanks to Mike at Mosaic Roto for letting me drop in and give you'll a look behind the scenes of how all this works.
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0:00 Intro
1:24 Factory Tour
10:42 Plastic Testing
37:33 Closing Thoughts
@derichhofmann4667 Жыл бұрын
Freaking awesome man! Thanks for taking the time to do this video! I’m glad they took the time as well to share their process with you/us! Nice to nerd out a bit this morning! Love your videos man! You are doing great things for this community! 🙌🏻
@WadeHarrison Жыл бұрын
Thanks Derich..
@ch678able Жыл бұрын
During my engineering studies, I worked in testing labs. The vid was really interesting. Knowing pigments have high heat retention, I didn't hear how much the beads retain, if any. I haven't met a manager not love to show off his plant. Thanks for the vid.
@WadeHarrison Жыл бұрын
He is the owner but yeah was good to walk around and chatt and show everyone that side of kayaking world
@macfawlty Жыл бұрын
Great to see behind the scenes of American industry and manufacturing. So, not everything plastic is made in China! 100% waste free, sustainable, no heavy metals. One of your most fascinating videos Wade.
@WadeHarrison Жыл бұрын
yes, for sure that's why I wanted to do this video it took some convincing to get in and show all that goes on there I have worked with these guys over the years testing new plastic so have always had a good relationship with them
@macfawlty Жыл бұрын
@@WadeHarrison I've done a number of factory and lab tour videos in manufacturing and pharmaceuticals. You really got a comprehensive tour from Mike. It's hard to do run & gun filming, interview, demo solo. A 3rd party gimbal and Rode wireless Go2 would help. The Sony ZV-1 camera is a good complement to the GoPro.
@WadeHarrison Жыл бұрын
@@macfawlty I agree with all that I have a Venmo if you want to donate to pay a camera man and purchase that gear I love that idea 🤩
@macfawlty Жыл бұрын
@@WadeHarrison As the paddler is more important than the boat, the story is more important than the gear. Perhaps I can cut something loose.
@mountainhobbit1971 Жыл бұрын
wow, you give us some of the best kayak videos out there Wade, sharing the in's and out's of the industry too...you truly love kayaks and kayaking, thank you.
@WadeHarrison Жыл бұрын
yeah, thanks buddy I will try to show more of this behind the scenes
@huntergipson3447 Жыл бұрын
You got to appreciate a fella like that being in charge that knows how every machine runs / operates / what it even does - nice video !
@WadeHarrison Жыл бұрын
Dude totally agree Mike is the owner but not one of those absent owners he loves it and is knowledgeable of everything there awesome guy
@AndrewMoizer Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this Wade. As an Engineer I really appreciate all the details. Having seen this I'm really surprised that (the premium at least) kayak manufacturers don't make a bigger deal of the quality of the resins they use, and the consistency of their processes. This whole tour makes it obvious that just because it looks like the same plastic boat, the actual structure and performance could be wildly different depending on the choice of material used. It's a bit funny that all the design discussion boats is about edges, and other asthetics and nothing on the materials and the choices that went into the overall product. And really makes you wonder what is in some offshore manufactured 'built down to a price' boat.
@WadeHarrison Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback Andrew I agree these manufacturers should show what resins they use that why I wanted to do a video I have worked with these guys in the past helping do on water testing on resin so wanted to show everyone what goes on in these factories
@AndrewMoizer Жыл бұрын
@@WadeHarrison It just seems to me that if a manufacturer is working with them to create a superior plastic it would be worth 'bragging' about. It also occurred to me that you might want to tailor the resin for a specific type of boat, for instance a hard core creek boat might want more toughness at the expense of strength (which would require a heavier boat, but it would really take a beating). And then all the UV tradeoff's. Pretty impressive all the work done for fishing kayaks getting baked in the sun. I guess if nothing else it could explain why some models or manufacturers seem to have a better reputation for boats that stay together, or don't!
@ericclaptonsrobotpilot7276 Жыл бұрын
Wade’s been watching SmarterEveryDay
@WadeHarrison Жыл бұрын
Love it
@danareed1656 Жыл бұрын
oh wow so cool
@WadeHarrison Жыл бұрын
Yeah it was good to do a tour around in there
@smuir6104 Жыл бұрын
By the way, I liked this one. Plastic gets brought up a lot on the water amongst Kayakers. This explains that there might not be a best plastic/company, but rather a better for _____ plastic. Maybe I am a science nerd, but I found it really interesting.
@WadeHarrison Жыл бұрын
Yeah can make the best plastic but if the company molding processes are not right can be a big problem
@scebeatmaker4435 Жыл бұрын
make a gear overview of your gear you use
@WadeHarrison Жыл бұрын
Ok will see if can put that together
@rustyshackelford17 Жыл бұрын
Super interesting stuff. Thanks for the insight Wade.
@WadeHarrison Жыл бұрын
Yes these guy really know their stuff
@vivekvarmas Жыл бұрын
That's awesome ! It was cool to see all the testing and specs
@WadeHarrison Жыл бұрын
Yeah I have been involved with this for years thought it be great to show some of it to the paddling world
@RebeccaBaltich Жыл бұрын
How neat was that? That was pretty neat.
@WadeHarrison Жыл бұрын
Always good to check out how things happen behind the scenes
@erpruitt Жыл бұрын
Great vid and info on testing👍🏽
@WadeHarrison Жыл бұрын
Glad he gave me the time to show everyone what goes into making kayak plastic
@waynefatguyinakayak7408 Жыл бұрын
Someone should send this video to Pelican, specifically the part about boats melting in the sun 😂
@WadeHarrison Жыл бұрын
Hahah I almost inserted that picture of that with the melted kayaks i did not want to use someone else’s picture from facebook I do know the picture
@macfawlty Жыл бұрын
Great factory tour Wade. Pretty fascinating.
@WadeHarrison Жыл бұрын
Thanks buddy
@reddog4096 Жыл бұрын
Can you give an example of a kayak made with the good stuff? Thanks
@WadeHarrison Жыл бұрын
What I have seen with my eyes personally Whitewater Dagger kayaks and LL and have not seen but think Jackson was using them for awhile and Rec and touring theres a alot out there most manufacturers have their own blends and producers so they never really say what they use
@DownstreamV Жыл бұрын
Sweet video man, super cool
@WadeHarrison Жыл бұрын
always fun day to visit these guys
@smuir6104 Жыл бұрын
28:39 is that why Jackson Boats tend to be a little slower than other brands, softer plastic means more energy loss, but then less brittle. Which maybe makes sense, I have seen Daggers cracked and broken, but Jacksons seem to only crunch and fold. So you might argue they are safer, for impacts, but sacrifice hardness/speed to do so? Am I on to why you might want one over another. Like I aim for rocks, because they are fun, so I might be more prone to impact, so a softer plastic might suit me better, where someone who stays away from rocks, might prefer a bit of speed to help them avoid impact. Maybe?
@WadeHarrison Жыл бұрын
If using good resin it will hold up well and there’s a lot that makes boats flexible like thickness shape and outfitting so many factors
@smuir6104 Жыл бұрын
@@WadeHarrison I really liked this one. I am interested in the "why" and "how". I would love to hear the correlation of a kayak company and hear their discussion and reason for what they choose. It is just cool.
@FeWolf Жыл бұрын
Ok this is cool 😎, manufacturing always interesting to me, actually came from Machinist background, later into metallurgy, which I am very familiar with the what he's talking about. We used chemicals, to get the properties just like he's talking about.
@WadeHarrison Жыл бұрын
I have worked with this company over the years doing plastic testing awesome they let me finally come in a give a tour what goes on..
@ericclaptonsrobotpilot7276 Жыл бұрын
Hell yeah dude
@WadeHarrison Жыл бұрын
Yes always good trip visiting these guys
@Shredchef Жыл бұрын
great videos wade!! ill be out in TN oct 23.. Im trying to get on the ocoee!! any reccs on getting hooked up with a boat and a crew to show me down?!
@WadeHarrison Жыл бұрын
Awesome I might be over that way will see I usually don’t plan far out like taht
@akhrissanov Жыл бұрын
very interesting. one thing that caught my eye - they say that material is overcooked, it becomes brittle. it does indeed , and it's a problem with welds on kayaks after they crack. welds are fragile. do you know how to make them less fragile or what to add to the welding rods to make it less brittle?
@WadeHarrison Жыл бұрын
Once a plastic gets overcooked that’s no coming back
@akhrissanov Жыл бұрын
for the welds, though, do you do anything specific to reduce chances of overcooking? I weld well within allowed range, with no smoke coming out, etc. still, some parts of the plastic are more brittle than others. idea of alloys in the video is pretty cool, though. for instance, hot glue sticks really well even to PEX, it's just not stiff enough..
@AndrewMoizer Жыл бұрын
Excellent point on the welding, something that really needs to be better understood. Weld embrittlement is a big deal for welding steel, I hadn't really appreciated that it was similar for plastics.
@WadeHarrison Жыл бұрын
@@AndrewMoizer I will look into that
@jmwlr Жыл бұрын
I have wondered how all the dead kayaks get recycled. You got anything on that?
@WadeHarrison Жыл бұрын
most go to get grid up and is used back in kayaks as seats ect these guys do that process it's one of their other factory's that does the regrind
@georgewilliamssr5230 Жыл бұрын
I want a kayak that's white on top with a clear bottom. 🤔
@WadeHarrison Жыл бұрын
Cut a hole in it and glue Plexiglas funny we did talk about this while there he says it's possible to have an all-clear kayak
@georgewilliamssr5230 Жыл бұрын
@@WadeHarrison I think if it was all clear. You would green house yourself real quick. But color or white on top would sun shade you enough to keep you from baking your legs.
@WadeHarrison Жыл бұрын
@@georgewilliamssr5230 oh the white top I get it now
@smuir6104 Жыл бұрын
@@WadeHarrison That would actually be kind of sick! I would buy one, don't even care what kind of boat that would just be Epic!
@ch678able Жыл бұрын
@@smuir6104 I would prefer to leave it to the imagination of others what goes on down in the hold. lol
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