HOW IT WORKS: Aircraft Flush Riveting

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9 жыл бұрын

Construction of aluminum air-frames process is explained by smoothing the wing surface to reduce aerodynamic drag, increasing performance and efficiency in flight.

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@wjrneo2
@wjrneo2 6 жыл бұрын
There is just something amazing about these old instructional videos. They are extremely simple, and not necessarily entertaining. But they are 110% to the point. I love how they can explain middle complicated concepts in a straight forward way. The old army video's on Differentials and how Torque Converters work are great.
@zmartkooky244
@zmartkooky244 Жыл бұрын
The rambling and the 'entertainment' are intentional so that you don't actually learn anything.
@AwestrikeFearofGods
@AwestrikeFearofGods 7 ай бұрын
This would have been very carefully planned to minimize useless filler. Animation, film, and distribution used to be very expensive, and not any joker with a phone could afford to make a documentary.
@arthurneddysmith
@arthurneddysmith 7 ай бұрын
"110%"? This video is far too factual to allow an exaggeration like that. The shame!
@GerhardvonAhe
@GerhardvonAhe 5 ай бұрын
true and real @@arthurneddysmith
@rockets4kids
@rockets4kids 5 ай бұрын
I absolutely hate the useless chatter which has become so common any more.
@fredlowe1087
@fredlowe1087 3 жыл бұрын
Me: KZfaq... It's 1 am.. Let me sleep! KZfaq: May I offer you a riveting video in this trying time.
@TheM750
@TheM750 3 жыл бұрын
I'm watching this at 1am too. I really should go to bed.
@nou4898
@nou4898 3 жыл бұрын
​@@TheM750 its almost 4am for me and im going to bed
@Turambar3791
@Turambar3791 3 жыл бұрын
1:23 am here
@nou4898
@nou4898 3 жыл бұрын
​@@Turambar3791 cool (00:58)
@Nevir202
@Nevir202 3 жыл бұрын
Great double entendre lol. Intentional?
@slick4401
@slick4401 6 жыл бұрын
Date of production of this film: 1942. America was training tens of thousands of unskilled workers to put together modern aircraft. Such films were essential to the war effort.
@assassinlexx1993
@assassinlexx1993 3 жыл бұрын
Still haven't changed
@plainlake
@plainlake Ай бұрын
Like Rosie. 💪
@robertlawson8572
@robertlawson8572 Ай бұрын
@@plainlake But of course, "Rosie the riveter" "sat with Suzie" to learn her skills...
@andromededp5316
@andromededp5316 Ай бұрын
And they are still used to this day
@gnaarW
@gnaarW 18 күн бұрын
@@andromededp5316 not at Boeing no more
@mercoid
@mercoid 6 жыл бұрын
I can imagine this narrator at the breakfast table explaining to his kid the two ways of preparing a bowl of cereal. "The first method involves adding milk to the bowl followed by cereal. The second method involves first adding the desired volume of cereal to the bowl and then adding the milk"
@paulh7589
@paulh7589 6 жыл бұрын
Hold spoon thusly (refer to fig 1.1) . If a crispy mouth-feel is desired one may eat aforementioned cereal immediately. For a softer mouth feel wait at least one minute between sample bites. When desired mouth feel is attained record the time it took for the milk to soak in. Record this time and store in a safe place for future reference.
@Vatsyayana87
@Vatsyayana87 6 жыл бұрын
at 110 degrees...
@leocurious9919
@leocurious9919 6 жыл бұрын
Hahahaha, well done :D
@dave5194
@dave5194 6 жыл бұрын
This stuff writes itself XD
@ColonelSandersLite
@ColonelSandersLite 6 жыл бұрын
Given the manufacturing variances between different brands and types of cereal, it is difficult to judge the amount of milk that will be needed for any particular bowel of cereal. For this reason, it is important to add the cereal to the bowel before adding the milk. Additionally, be on the lookout for people that add the milk to the bowel before adding the cereal. These people are certainly communists agents and should be reported to the US government with all haste.
@Hopeless_and_Forlorn
@Hopeless_and_Forlorn 6 жыл бұрын
When I learned riveting at Spartan School of Aeronautics in 1965, we were given hard rivets and dead soft aluminum sheet to work with. Anything less than perfect technique with that combination of materials left glaring marks on the metal for the instructor to point out, meaning we had to do it over again. Practice made perfect.
@motorcop505
@motorcop505 6 жыл бұрын
Hopelessand Forlorn Thank you for sharing your story with us. Although I wouldn't have ever thought of that method for ensuring the correct technique was followed, it makes perfect sense once you mentioned it. Your personal story really added to this film. Thanks once again. (PS - I was just born in October 1965.)
@root1657
@root1657 5 жыл бұрын
Have you seen the video of the guy trying to mill a perfect cube from a potato? Same idea.
@1978garfield
@1978garfield 4 жыл бұрын
​@@root1657 AvE threaded a potato and then fried it in cutting oil.
@root1657
@root1657 4 жыл бұрын
@@1978garfield yep, that's the guy.
@brandoncueto
@brandoncueto 3 жыл бұрын
At least it wasn't annealed 24 karat gold sheets with HSS rivets
@95TurboSol
@95TurboSol Жыл бұрын
Wow, the double dimple method is brilliant, it increases strength by bending the ends of the thin metal to an arch under the rivet. Just think, some person years ago invested probably thousands of hours into developing the best methods for things like this, I'm very appreciative. We really do stand on the shoulders of giants that came before us.
@TheLukasDirector
@TheLukasDirector 5 ай бұрын
And it's performed with the same tool as is already used for the riveting, all you need is the die which can be easily machined on a lathe. It's really nifty.
@lazzie7495
@lazzie7495 5 ай бұрын
@@TheLukasDirectorwell, yeah, that’s part of why it’s brilliant. New techniques that don’t require much replacement of tooling or labor skills can be implemented much easier.
@dr_jaymz
@dr_jaymz 5 ай бұрын
Its very cool. Best not to think about it too much when you're pulling 9g.
@deadshot5845
@deadshot5845 5 ай бұрын
i love your profile picture!
@95TurboSol
@95TurboSol 5 ай бұрын
@@deadshot5845 thanks
@edwardwood6532
@edwardwood6532 6 жыл бұрын
I want this person to do an audiobook of 50 Shades of Grey.
@GrexTheCrabasitor
@GrexTheCrabasitor 5 жыл бұрын
hes probably dead
@edgarbeat275
@edgarbeat275 5 жыл бұрын
Hahaha "You must follow the set out protocol" hahaha
@0530628416
@0530628416 5 жыл бұрын
Seems like reviting and dimpling turned u on
@milanstevic8424
@milanstevic8424 5 жыл бұрын
3:30 The special dimpling set is remooved. The driver retains the standard flush driving set. The workman proceeds with the bucker, using an ordinary bucking baar. robot porn, honestly.
@edgarbeat275
@edgarbeat275 5 жыл бұрын
@@milanstevic8424 hahahahahaha so funny yet erotic at the same time.
@StratoArt
@StratoArt 8 жыл бұрын
Aircraft = a hundred thousand rivets flying in close formation. :)
@Audfile
@Audfile 7 жыл бұрын
that's silly, rivets can't fly
@superexcedrin6839
@superexcedrin6839 7 жыл бұрын
Neither can people, but they do in a plane......
@onjofilms
@onjofilms 7 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of "Gilligan, you can't fly!" "I can't?" "No"
@colonelstriker2519
@colonelstriker2519 6 жыл бұрын
Never looking at a plane the same ever again
@mel63613
@mel63613 6 жыл бұрын
Dale Jackson surrounded by a layer of Alcoa wrap.
@breakingtoast2255
@breakingtoast2255 6 жыл бұрын
this is great knowledge in case I want to build a 747 jumbo jet in my garage
@quantumbubbles2106
@quantumbubbles2106 6 жыл бұрын
+Breaking good -- It's also useful when building a moon rocket at home.
@GeraldGuevara
@GeraldGuevara 6 жыл бұрын
Or a homemade kit plane.
@illliiiiillliii6265
@illliiiiillliii6265 6 жыл бұрын
Breaking good i know right ill be book marking this with the rest of my random plane manufacturing videos. One day ill have the complete instructions how to build a stealth bomber.
@yourhandlehere1
@yourhandlehere1 6 жыл бұрын
I always bring my air tools in my carry on luggage. You never know when something might come loose in flight.
@garygraham4679
@garygraham4679 6 жыл бұрын
Been there done that I must of shot a half million of those things in '78 and '79.
@stuartmiller1260
@stuartmiller1260 9 жыл бұрын
This video was riveting
@nanathannvw
@nanathannvw 9 жыл бұрын
Stuart Miller just trying to pop a few puns in are you?
@Cookiesdiefrombehind
@Cookiesdiefrombehind 9 жыл бұрын
nvwalters pop rivets you mean
@nanathannvw
@nanathannvw 9 жыл бұрын
Alexander Salt there is no need to countersink my comment
@nanathannvw
@nanathannvw 9 жыл бұрын
Alexander Salt ah sod it...I'm no good at puns hah
@stuartmiller1260
@stuartmiller1260 8 жыл бұрын
+Hoorf - I'm flush with puns, but didn't want this to drag on.
@alxmtncstudio2066
@alxmtncstudio2066 6 ай бұрын
This is so straight to the point and simple to grasp, despite my extreme ADHD I still got through the whole video at once without moving an inch. It's a miracle
@kasuraga
@kasuraga 5 ай бұрын
same. I've watched this video several times over the years just cause how pleasing and informative it is. I have no need to know how to flush rivet panels together, but if I ever do, I know what needs to be done.
@darksunrise957
@darksunrise957 4 ай бұрын
I guess you could say you were... Riveted.
@stefanmargraf7878
@stefanmargraf7878 4 ай бұрын
Same, but i am an autist😂
@4G12
@4G12 3 жыл бұрын
Now THIS is how you teach well. Clear, unambiguous and to the point.
@jebbroham1776
@jebbroham1776 3 жыл бұрын
What they don't tell you, is how difficult this is to do when you're hanging upside down from the deck framework to reach that one area that you can't get to any other way, in the dark. That was my nightmare as a starting sheet metal mechanic working for Boeing on the 737.
@andymanaus1077
@andymanaus1077 3 жыл бұрын
Why in the dark? They at least could have supplied a head lamp.
@jebbroham1776
@jebbroham1776 3 жыл бұрын
@@andymanaus1077 my head would get so sweaty that my headlamp wouldn't stay on, so I'd often ziptie it to a nearby frame to try to get it on target. With all the ducting and piping beneath the floor boards though, the light often means all you have for light is the secondary illumination. Its very frustrating.
@brw3079
@brw3079 5 ай бұрын
And then because of the position, you have to do it left handed. Been there, done that, almost got good at it.
@prof2bobajob.klonded5
@prof2bobajob.klonded5 5 ай бұрын
They don't tell how hard it is to do when drunk
@jebbroham1776
@jebbroham1776 5 ай бұрын
@@prof2bobajob.klonded5 I would DEFINITELY not recommend that lol
@SJR_Media_Group
@SJR_Media_Group 5 ай бұрын
Former Boeing Everett.... I forget the number of rivets used on the B-747's but it was over 1 million per plane. Lots of holes to drill and lots of rivets to install. Today they have giant machines to punch out or drill entire body and wind panels. Jigs hold everything in place for fastening with rivets. Current planes are using mostly carbon fiber composites, but there are still many rivets used as well.
@FranklyNorman
@FranklyNorman 5 ай бұрын
You laugh, but if this dude gets five minutes alone with your girl she’s gone forever
@Roddy556
@Roddy556 8 күн бұрын
Lol
@michaelbruceallen3700
@michaelbruceallen3700 6 жыл бұрын
There is absolutely no reason for me to watch this, but for some reason I did.
@careditor
@careditor 3 жыл бұрын
I am not even a mechanic...
@edwardkimball596
@edwardkimball596 3 жыл бұрын
I know what you mean. I’ve been fascinated by many aspects of aviation for reasons I can’t fathom. I’m sort of a handyman but no experience in anything this technical. The narrator could have done a sex manual for Mormons “....How to make a baby....”. Now THAT would be truly riveting.
@kevinmurphy1884
@kevinmurphy1884 2 жыл бұрын
.....and at 1am.....
@sascham4055
@sascham4055 2 жыл бұрын
🤔🤔🤔🤔!!!
@ferrari884
@ferrari884 8 жыл бұрын
Man, this guy sure knows how to party. Calm down, bro.
@iMatagora
@iMatagora 8 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing - swinging party! When's the autopsy?
@jcmartinez7527
@jcmartinez7527 6 жыл бұрын
He's probably making good money. So if he wanted to party, he would.
@ancelrick5396
@ancelrick5396 6 жыл бұрын
He's probably dead.
@mel63613
@mel63613 6 жыл бұрын
See above!
@jbonegw
@jbonegw 5 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@sdfgsdfg9549
@sdfgsdfg9549 5 жыл бұрын
This is what a 100% just information video looks like. No Vlog smarty commentary. No drone footage. No over the top super slomo replays. No promotions.
@thomaspayne6866
@thomaspayne6866 5 жыл бұрын
SDFG SDFG -- entertainment is like sugar. Soon enough it’ll give you diabetes. Entertainment is feminine in nature with those feelings. Masculinity is like meat. It makes you strong and able. It’s about order, work, and ability. It’s square, not circle like femininity.
@Steponlyone
@Steponlyone Ай бұрын
@@thomaspayne68665 years later, have you found the courage to come out of the closet yet?
@HatfieldCW
@HatfieldCW 6 жыл бұрын
I love everything about this video. I'm building mini quadcopters, and I'm learning how with KZfaq. I wade through hours of video and glean little nuggets of wisdom from each. I feel like I'm panning for gold dust, because nobody makes ingots like this. The confidence, the professionalism, the clean presentation all sing to me. I would pay money to have the information I seek presented in this format. Skip the jokes, skip the self-indulgent flight footage, skip the ancillary political and social chatter. Teach me like they tried to teach me when I was too young and brash and naive to appreciate it.
@vabels54
@vabels54 4 ай бұрын
Absolutely, I agree with you!
@thesaneparty4079
@thesaneparty4079 5 жыл бұрын
I love that this has well over a million views. I bet 90% of them are between 2 and 3am.
@manasdas8793
@manasdas8793 3 жыл бұрын
1.57 AM
@SC-yx6wr
@SC-yx6wr 3 жыл бұрын
3:15 am
@sgauntt
@sgauntt 3 жыл бұрын
9:39pm here
@kevinmurphy1884
@kevinmurphy1884 2 жыл бұрын
....1am...
@eliasbachner1898
@eliasbachner1898 2 жыл бұрын
3:35am
@8172008
@8172008 6 жыл бұрын
HA, my very first paying job was as a rivet bucker at Boeing Co. on the wing flap line at plant two in Seattle WA, for $2.15 an hour, in 1963. The flaps were the outboard trailing mid-flap for the 727. I was working there the day that Kennedy was shot. :--((((( Oh, BTW I don't know why, but he didn't mention anything about micro-shaving a countersunk rivet in case it was a tad above the surface. I THINK that .003 in. was the max allowable tolerance.
@LeFatCobra
@LeFatCobra 5 жыл бұрын
This guy said +/- .002 (see, I was paying attention.)
@milanstevic8424
@milanstevic8424 5 жыл бұрын
and this is why Kennedy was shot
@gsxrgeorge00
@gsxrgeorge00 5 жыл бұрын
@Travis Thacker I'm at Boeing St louis on the f18 line, and we still use rivets on all the panels.
@southpawarmory4336
@southpawarmory4336 5 жыл бұрын
Welding deforms and changes the heat treat of the metal. And rivets are far lighter than the titanium threaded fasteners we use on 747s(all commercial boeing aircraft) there is no welding that I've seen on any of the 747s I've built.
@hayesj6698
@hayesj6698 5 жыл бұрын
@Travis Thacker If you were out of rivets then yes, a nut and bolt is a suitable substitute.
@jhwblender
@jhwblender 6 жыл бұрын
I love these older instructional/informational videos. They go slow and explain things really well.
@deathsheir2035
@deathsheir2035 Ай бұрын
why did youtube recommend this to me? Why did I watch this full through? Why did I enjoy it? What has my life come to that this was entertaining?
@Burnlit1337
@Burnlit1337 8 күн бұрын
Why are these old training videos so much more engaging and clear that modern ones
@JanTuts
@JanTuts 7 жыл бұрын
These old instructional videos are always the best! :D They get even better when they start bringing out large-scale cutaway models (BAR rifle video) or even a modified car and acrobats (differential video)!
@thegreyspectre9838
@thegreyspectre9838 3 жыл бұрын
I remember when TLC, History Channel, Discovery Channel, Science Channel use to air educational videos like this. Ah the good old days before “reality” tv ruined everything.
@brentfellers9632
@brentfellers9632 3 жыл бұрын
I enjoy tech films, I'm weird!! trained as a body man then automotive, worked years in HD mechanics, them retrain for AME. Loved the trade, hated the wage, went back to fixing tractors 🚜 This vid was a fun refresh ,thanx!
@arodrigues2843
@arodrigues2843 6 жыл бұрын
Very interesting video. I have learned something. But, then again I am a serious, grown up man, not a wise guy, like allmost all those comments !!! If they did not liked it, why are they watching this channel.??? I liked it, and I thank you for posting that very interesting video.!!! Kudos to you, Sir, and thanks for it again.!!!
@Mr1979capri
@Mr1979capri 9 жыл бұрын
We still do this today, I have worked on modern planes and it's still the same , +0 -2 in other word it can not stick above the sheet metal at all +0 and it can dip below the surface by 2 thousands of a inch and we still use those counter sinks! Cool stuff!!
@LinusE
@LinusE 8 жыл бұрын
+Mr1979capri something I believe will not be replaced, quite an effective method against air resistance
@Mr1979capri
@Mr1979capri 8 жыл бұрын
+JetMechMA I work on brand new f 22 raptors and f 35 and V 12 osprey b1 bombers and we are rebuilding b 2 stealth bomber and a lot of one we don't talk about .
@dntlss
@dntlss 6 жыл бұрын
Rivets are still used ,the comet cracked due to square windows and square panels, thats why airplane windows are round now,they take stress loads much better that way.
@thegardenofeatin5965
@thegardenofeatin5965 6 жыл бұрын
The rivets on the Comet were punched through the skin and then bucked. The punching action through the skin left a jagged edge containing stress risers. The above method for drilling and bucking rivets has been used on every metal plane I've ever flown, aircraft are build using AN470AD rivets to this day using the methods in this video.
@K03021817
@K03021817 6 жыл бұрын
pahom I use a few hundred obsolete fasteners every day then lol. 737s and P8A Poseidons
@nedas9187
@nedas9187 9 жыл бұрын
wow, what a video. I'm airborne. I want a time machine to move back to a time when people spoke like this and explained concepts like this, verbally and illustratively.
@rayford21
@rayford21 8 жыл бұрын
+Neda Svrakic Sometimes sermons are spoken with the same type of monotone voice. This has a hypnotic effect on many people causing them to doze off. I once had a history class teacher that did the same to many of the students.
@tharrod1
@tharrod1 6 жыл бұрын
The sad thing is that people never actually talked like this, it's called "Transatlantic" dialect and it was used by actors back in the day. Remnants of it can still be heard daily on the news with their "nonregional" dialect.
@billpetersen298
@billpetersen298 5 жыл бұрын
Travis, go to Serbia, and area. That's where you will find women, who work hard, love their family, and have a heart of gold. (eastern Europe)
@milanstevic8424
@milanstevic8424 5 жыл бұрын
haha that's so interesting, because Neda Svrakic (the OP above) is likely from Serbia.
@johnrobinson357
@johnrobinson357 5 жыл бұрын
@Travis Bickle The reasons for today having little to no substance can be traced back to 2 things : The internet and the refinement of the smart phone. The former is and can yet be a fantastic tool for countless purposes to improve life for all. Sadly, it has been squandered and perverted in so many useless ways to generate money. All the while only improving the lives of a very select few - those whom can afford to buy in. The latter being the magical all knowing magic screen. An expertly targeted device designed to control and monetarily enslave a specific demographic of the general population. May as well toss in the pot, the personal computer, it appeals to a broader part of the general public at large. And Television as well has been turned into a programming tool for the masses, it did not start out that way. Travis i am only a few years younger than yourself. I very clearly remember when none of it existed, and yes life had a sweetness to it that is no longer part of today - this world we live in. Your issues with women, well that i feel is a personal issue - i will stay out of that. Personally i feel women should be equal partners in all things. And should have been so for a very long time, certainly the span of my lifetime and probably a lot longer than that. I have a son 13, it is he that i feel sorry for as he inherits this soup of nothingness and insane political ideas of the " Modern " society. How he will navigate his way along his life when i die i find fearful. To be 13 years old in 2019 is a scary reality. I wish you well and may you find light to guide your way along the twisty roads of life. J
@raphaelancheta7559
@raphaelancheta7559 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely no reason for me to watch this but 10 mins of my life was spent on this
@stanilastefan1687
@stanilastefan1687 6 жыл бұрын
"we are using 1/8 inch rivet so we drill a No. 30 hole "..... so obvious. Damn imperial units are o funny.
@blue04mx53
@blue04mx53 6 жыл бұрын
I'm sure there was a chart somewhere in a forgotten book that had all the drill holes charted against the correct rivet sizes. And this kept the chart makers and book publishers employed.
@2Phast4Rocket
@2Phast4Rocket 6 жыл бұрын
No. 30 hole is the drill size. Machine drills have numbers because usually the hole is slightly smaller than the actual fasterner diameter. It's like this since the start of the industrial revolution.
@Matias-nr6rm
@Matias-nr6rm 5 жыл бұрын
Mahatma Coat, when they could have used their time and skill to do something more important than trying to help workers not mess things up because of the so intuitive, simple and efficient system they have no choice but to work by
@root1657
@root1657 5 жыл бұрын
Didn't hear anyone asking that when the American designed and built planes were liberating Europe using the technologies in the video....
@root1657
@root1657 5 жыл бұрын
Nope. All we asked in return was enough land to bury our dead.
@xmanhoe
@xmanhoe 8 жыл бұрын
I was an aircraft rivetter for Shorts aircraft company ( Bombardier) I installed NACA rivets on the top skin of the Fokker 100, the rivet was installed from inside and flattened into the countersink on the wing skin, this was then milled flush ... yes it was a rivetting jib lol
@baldprisonguard1
@baldprisonguard1 6 жыл бұрын
I own one of those rivet mills today. I need to dig it out and see if I can repair it. Still have my IR rivet gun and drills. I have a power cleko gun but don't remember the mfg. Had'nt really thought about flush milling rivets in years... till you mentioned it. Thank you!
@damonthomas8955
@damonthomas8955 2 жыл бұрын
Does a milled flush beat a royal flush, or is it the other way around?
@michaelschlachter1628
@michaelschlachter1628 4 жыл бұрын
Great video! Hand riveting, dimpling, countersinking are still used in the construction of experimental and kit aircraft. I learned more in 8 minutes of watching this than 2 weeks of other research!
@chrisw.3077
@chrisw.3077 3 жыл бұрын
I wish my voice sounded like this. Imagine how meetings would go. I’d get my way every time.
@highlandersh44
@highlandersh44 6 жыл бұрын
I worked on aircraft for 40 years and this movie needs updating.
@horustwohawks
@horustwohawks 9 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for posting this. I am researching riveting for a project on my motorcycle, and this is an awesome post.
@scotttaylor215
@scotttaylor215 8 жыл бұрын
Interesting that it was a Walt Disney film.
@Doomsday971
@Doomsday971 6 жыл бұрын
Not really, they did a lot of films from back then.
@DashDrones
@DashDrones 6 жыл бұрын
Disney - Alien technology
@starvingpoet81
@starvingpoet81 6 жыл бұрын
Plugging holes with metal shafts not enough for you?
@BitchyBoxxy
@BitchyBoxxy 5 жыл бұрын
They made military tutorial videos during ww1 and ww2
@ricbachman1727
@ricbachman1727 5 жыл бұрын
Given the era and the text at the end someone potentially watched this to make a plane to kill people.
@andromededp5316
@andromededp5316 Ай бұрын
I believe a different technique is used for double dimpling nowadays, but I love those videos. They are still used to this day to teach people how to rivet sheet metal
@amateurmakingmistakes
@amateurmakingmistakes 11 ай бұрын
I'm a retired airline pilot (fixed and rotary wing) and I came here wanting to learn more about riveting - specifically flush riveting! - because I'm making a sculpture that incorporates what looks like aircraft wings, and I want a little bit of realism, for something that isn't intended to fly. But I'm very pleased to finally learn exactly how the sheets of metal on which my life and those of my passengers depended were constructed! Kudos to all you educators!
@DanielLCarrier
@DanielLCarrier 3 жыл бұрын
I remember seeing a scene on the Aviator where he told them they needed to make the rivets flush and they said they couldn't, then it showed them having accomplished it and it never explained how. I'm happy to finally know what they did.
@markjones843
@markjones843 2 жыл бұрын
haha I had the exact same thought
@andrewalexander9492
@andrewalexander9492 Жыл бұрын
Hughes didn't invent flush rivets. there was a patent application for flush rivets by Charles Hall in 1926. the first aircraft with flush rivets is the Hall Aluminum Aircraft Co XFH in 1929, 6 years before Hughes H-1. Don't get your history from Hollywood movies.
@199NickYT
@199NickYT 3 жыл бұрын
Boomers: "When I was your age, no one sat down and explained everything to me in detail. Common sense was my guide!" Boomers' work education:
@DB-qf3ss
@DB-qf3ss Ай бұрын
Not gunna lie - this was fascinating.
@washellwash1802
@washellwash1802 6 күн бұрын
You might even say it was... riveting!
@ThomasGrillo
@ThomasGrillo 3 жыл бұрын
I love these old technical instructional videos. The voiceover talent. :)
@trex2092
@trex2092 3 жыл бұрын
As a retired US Coast Guard Aviation Structural Mechanic (Metal Smith) I can attest to the accuracy of the material presented here. I can buck a rivet by sound and touch and check it like Ray Charles. 21 years.
@jamesdane6189
@jamesdane6189 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting, I think my father actually received a patent for one of these methods while working at North American in about 1942. He got a check for the patient while overseas so they could release the method to other manufacturers. Not sure which process was his but I know it involved the drilling process heat relieving the stress on the metal to prevent cracking at the dimples.. he turns 100 in two weeks and I will see if he can tell me if one of these methods is his. It’s amazing what he can remember from back then yesterday can be a problem. If I make it to 100 I hope I am that sharp.
@countrycraftsman5110
@countrycraftsman5110 5 ай бұрын
That is very cool. A smart man, your father is.
@Aerospaceman
@Aerospaceman 5 жыл бұрын
Very enjoyable and informative video. Thank you from Spokane Valley, WA
@hockeyteeth
@hockeyteeth 3 жыл бұрын
I served 8 years in the Airforce and 14 years contracting for Boeing, Lockheed and Raytheon as a structural sheet metal mechanic on many aircraft. He's speaking my language.
@utah133
@utah133 7 жыл бұрын
More than a million rivets for an old-school big plane! This is the job that originated the "Rosie The Riveter" meme from WW2. Women built much of those planes, including my grandma, may she rest in peace.
@civedm
@civedm 3 жыл бұрын
You got to love these old videos.
@fredhatfield5863
@fredhatfield5863 5 жыл бұрын
This is one of the best instruction films I have ever seen , wonderfull clear to the point .
@danz409
@danz409 5 жыл бұрын
i wish more educational videos was this simple. for the time. this animation is actually pretty good!
@Bhatt_Hole
@Bhatt_Hole 6 жыл бұрын
Also, it was pretty interesting seeing the text at the end, for a fabulous look back in time. It shows how the implied meaning of words can change over the decades, though you don't normally notice it any other way. Notice how the word "cheapest" was used. That would never happen today. The word back then clearly carried no more negativity than saying "cost effectively" would today. Currently, that word sometimes implies lowered quality as a result of lower cost.
@iosef3337
@iosef3337 6 жыл бұрын
Your name goes perfectly with your comment.
@iosef3337
@iosef3337 6 жыл бұрын
Your name goes perfectly with your comment.
@ssimon64
@ssimon64 5 жыл бұрын
Yes simple honest language was used back then rather that the politically correct expressions used today that require many more syllables and don't explain things as well.
@ZebbMassiv
@ZebbMassiv 3 жыл бұрын
This was my Father's main job working for De Havilland Boeing and Bombardier. He invented an additional part for this setup making the rivet always go straight with much less effort.
@spinnacak
@spinnacak 7 жыл бұрын
Can't stop watching this video while I learn to rivet. What a good resource.
@TheLazyGuyWay
@TheLazyGuyWay 8 жыл бұрын
this articulating talk technic is very good to memorize !
@HugDeeznueces
@HugDeeznueces 8 жыл бұрын
I need to emulate this voice on my Mac for my videos.
@mike136rr
@mike136rr 6 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised nobody's bitching about the computerized voice..lol
@World_Theory
@World_Theory 6 жыл бұрын
I'm going to have the word “dimple” bouncing around my head for the next week.
@damonthomas8955
@damonthomas8955 2 жыл бұрын
Perhaps you are becoming dimple minded.
@triedzidono
@triedzidono 4 ай бұрын
I love these videos from the future. How advanced they are.
@jat1992jat1992
@jat1992jat1992 Ай бұрын
This was riveting Kept me on the edge of my seat
@khaledaska
@khaledaska 6 жыл бұрын
good clear ENGLISH
@carlcepillo01
@carlcepillo01 6 жыл бұрын
"ENGLISH". The real english accent is the one spoken in ENGLAND.
@Mac1PC
@Mac1PC 5 жыл бұрын
Not jinglish, not jive, i can aks a qestion and hear an answer
@luke666808g
@luke666808g 6 жыл бұрын
3.2mm rivet + 1mm sheet, in case anyone is wondering.
@xxwookey
@xxwookey 5 жыл бұрын
And 3.3mm hole. Quite a lot simpler isn't it?
@isaacroebuck9514
@isaacroebuck9514 5 жыл бұрын
.1250 and 40 grand in machinist lingo.
@jackmehoff2363
@jackmehoff2363 5 жыл бұрын
I cant lie, this old style of teaching that came about in ww2 military training videos works well for me
@vincentlemoine3830
@vincentlemoine3830 12 күн бұрын
Thank you KZfaq for recommending this completely useless video to me. I still watched it in full, it's an amazing vidéo.
@mouhssinejeniny367
@mouhssinejeniny367 8 жыл бұрын
thank you for this amazing video
@Ferndalien
@Ferndalien 5 жыл бұрын
Somewhere my father got the tool for drilling and countersinking. It's commonly called a countersink cage, or a microstop countersink cage. They're still being sold. You can buy a variety of sizes of bits to go into them. They also work very very nicely for controlling the depth of flat head screws in wood so you get a nice, uniform look.
@Ferndalien
@Ferndalien 5 ай бұрын
When my dad passed away I found one in all the stuff he had in his shop. Not having any idea of what it was or how to use it, it took me a while searching on the Internet to find out what it was. I've used it in my woodworking several times.
@utah133
@utah133 7 жыл бұрын
It's a riveting video, for sure. But this narrator probably never won many awards for an exciting presentation!
@Dominico97
@Dominico97 5 ай бұрын
The Double Dimple method is genius! So simple yet such an effective method at securing, exctly what engineering should be
@scoldedcat
@scoldedcat 5 жыл бұрын
The narrator sounds like an exciting guy. Like a coiled spring about to unleash
@eggbertsmith
@eggbertsmith 9 жыл бұрын
Fascinating stuff! Slightly less entertaining than page 361 of the New Jersey white pages, but more so than observing the curing of most varieties of cement.
@mel63613
@mel63613 6 жыл бұрын
The book may be boring, but it has a cast of thousands.
@michaelpair4144
@michaelpair4144 5 жыл бұрын
Succinct observation! Lol!!
@finkelsteinyablonsky518
@finkelsteinyablonsky518 6 жыл бұрын
Much better at 1.25x speed. I miss these older videos
@thomaspayne6866
@thomaspayne6866 5 жыл бұрын
Finkelstein Yablonsky -- ((( )))
@smaze1782
@smaze1782 5 жыл бұрын
Whoa....all of my riveting questions were just answered. Nice! Great video, thanks for posting it.
@tackyman2011
@tackyman2011 6 жыл бұрын
Moral: Unless you want to be a drag, keep your head down.
@bryanbridges2987
@bryanbridges2987 6 жыл бұрын
tackyman2011 That was great man. That was really great.
@ssimon64
@ssimon64 5 жыл бұрын
This comment deserves so many more likes
@mikepeterson9733
@mikepeterson9733 5 жыл бұрын
"A Walt Disney Industrial Training Film". Yes, I watched to the very end.
@gvc76
@gvc76 2 жыл бұрын
No, the very end says Lockheed Aircraft Corp, Burbank California, LOL
@ScottAT
@ScottAT 3 жыл бұрын
I did this for a living for 22 years. I miss doing it. Getting old sucks.
@rick-kx7gy
@rick-kx7gy 2 жыл бұрын
never would of imagined so many different methods used . Thanks
@burtonboehm66
@burtonboehm66 6 жыл бұрын
Dimpling is NO longer done on any of the commercial aircraft today. Reason dimpling the skin of the aircraft that way caused stress cracks to form on the hole. This video is older then the hills from the 40s or 50s area and a rivet swagged between skins is now considered detrimental to the structure of the plane. All the other processes are still in place in the factory.
@medetturgutgokce2001
@medetturgutgokce2001 4 жыл бұрын
I still don't get why do they even use dimpling. It's sounds so illogical structurally. I can't understand the benefits of it
@pikatrieu390
@pikatrieu390 3 жыл бұрын
@@medetturgutgokce2001 very late, but it was done to reduce drag, as the dimple was to accommodate the countersunk rivets used to become flush with the skin of the craft.
@HMSNeptun
@HMSNeptun 2 жыл бұрын
@@pikatrieu390 it first appeared in the A6M 'Zero' which outperformed contemporary carrier aircraft like the F4F and even some land based ones.
@simonruszczak5563
@simonruszczak5563 2 жыл бұрын
@@medetturgutgokce2001 Countersinking reduces the amount of material the rivet head is holding, dimpling doesn't.
@damonthomas8955
@damonthomas8955 2 жыл бұрын
So countersinking removes too much material from thin sheets and dimpling causes stress cracks. How are flush fit rivets installed on the skin of modern aircraft?
@jeromewhelan6723
@jeromewhelan6723 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making this available. It seems that, starting at 09:35, the introduction to the film appears at the end of the film. Out of curiosity, did you place the intro at the end, and if so, why? Thanks again, Jerry
@Milosz_Ostrow
@Milosz_Ostrow 8 жыл бұрын
I noticed that, too. I think it may have been a deliberate copyright dodge, although with a training film of this type, I'd think the copyright would have expired by now, if copyright was ever claimed in the first place.
@hummel6364
@hummel6364 20 күн бұрын
I wonder if at any time this tape was to be used in a way where it would loop, the end of the tape could have been copied from the beginning in order to make stitching it together in a seamless loop easier.
@Bourinos02
@Bourinos02 6 жыл бұрын
1 : Why is this in my suggestions? 2 : Why is this video so amazing? 3 : Animations from the 60-80's are amazing!
@SithLord2066
@SithLord2066 6 жыл бұрын
um... this is WW2 era video. Videos from 80's would have funky synthesizer music in it.
@shemshamer
@shemshamer 6 жыл бұрын
These old videos are so informative.
@thomashawaii
@thomashawaii 5 жыл бұрын
After watching this video, I have an illusion that I can do riveting.
@ahmedabbas4434
@ahmedabbas4434 6 жыл бұрын
old but gold
@ZURAD
@ZURAD 3 жыл бұрын
Never have I seen the double dimple method. Very cool!
@insertphrasehere15
@insertphrasehere15 5 жыл бұрын
No idea why this is so satisfying to watch.
@eliorbilow8797
@eliorbilow8797 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like I should be learning this in engineering school.
@Bageera63
@Bageera63 8 жыл бұрын
I think I watched this in '82 at Chanute AFB Tin Bender/Structural Despair School.
@hayesj6698
@hayesj6698 5 жыл бұрын
April '86 alumni here 🙋
@Colorado_Native
@Colorado_Native 5 жыл бұрын
I was there in 1976/77 learning flight simulation. Miserable cold weather.
@American_Patriot_69420
@American_Patriot_69420 5 күн бұрын
"He's just a friend" Her and the friend:
@sporkstar1911
@sporkstar1911 5 ай бұрын
This was a riveting presentation, I was on the edge of my seat.😮
@splatter_proto
@splatter_proto 5 күн бұрын
Somebody should show this to Boeing
@gukujo1
@gukujo1 5 жыл бұрын
Autoplay brought me here, never have an airplane, but after this gonna build one
@zoesdada8923
@zoesdada8923 6 жыл бұрын
I'm glad I know this. I have had a pile of aluminium and a radial engine sitting in my yard that I didn't know what I was going to do with.
@MrDani1941
@MrDani1941 6 күн бұрын
Me: But I’ve already seen this multiple times My Brain: I said we’re watching it again
@dumelachris
@dumelachris 5 жыл бұрын
Why is this in my suggested vids? I know nothing of rivets, airplanes, bucking bars, lips or sheet metal. I have just demonstrated my lack of knowledge of rivets and dimples.
@BULLOCK1973
@BULLOCK1973 8 жыл бұрын
Why did i watch this entire video?, man i have a sad life.
@elementq
@elementq 8 жыл бұрын
+BULLOCK1973 i love it.. learned lots of things ..
@thespectator2976
@thespectator2976 8 жыл бұрын
+BULLOCK1973 so did i :) but its very intresting i´d say :)
@kainhall
@kainhall 8 жыл бұрын
+Gekko Tec their are still somethings welded.... if you need to hold 2 things together but dont have access to the edges.... or special situations and the like. its a lost art sorta like brick masonry... its still done.... but not by many people and usually costs a lot of money.
@spudpud-T67
@spudpud-T67 8 жыл бұрын
+BULLOCK Its the hypnotic voice, it forces you to listen; its riveting
@johnrobinson4445
@johnrobinson4445 8 жыл бұрын
+spud pud i see what you did there lol
@lv.99mastermind45
@lv.99mastermind45 2 жыл бұрын
People several decades ago: "God damn it, we have to sit in class and watch this video for work" 2.6 million people now: *Interesting*
@Everett-xe3eg
@Everett-xe3eg 5 ай бұрын
Hell yeah! I love old videos like these.
@saltysteel3996
@saltysteel3996 3 жыл бұрын
Back when Walt Disney was a great Patriotic company.
@machia-mw1lm
@machia-mw1lm 8 жыл бұрын
Howard Hughes imagined this and his engineers brought it to reality .
@DrewLSsix
@DrewLSsix 5 жыл бұрын
No.
@damonthomas8955
@damonthomas8955 2 жыл бұрын
Great things happen when you save your toenail clippings and urine for many years.
@luizmachado3750
@luizmachado3750 2 жыл бұрын
I've already done this, the cone of the fuselages of light aircrafts such as Cessnas single-engines, are covered with 0.16 sheet, very thin to make a countersink. After drilling and cutting the sheet, I used a 426 rivet pin up on a steel surface, a steel mold and a hammer to make a dimpling in each hole.
@allenwalker1379
@allenwalker1379 5 жыл бұрын
Love these old how it's made videos.
@electronicsNmore
@electronicsNmore 5 жыл бұрын
A++
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