How KR Challengers Use Reworked Skarner

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@LoLDobby
@LoLDobby Ай бұрын
Don’t miss my coaching community pre-launch! Come join: bit.ly/3vwMNaD 〃 Even after the hotfix, top skarner is still being used well. We don't really have any mana issues with the build in the video 〃 www.deeplol.gg/summoner/KR/%EB%9D%BC%EC%98%A8%ED%8C%80%20%ED%83%91-2732 www.deeplol.gg/summoner/KR/%EC%B2%9C%EC%95%88%ED%83%B1%ED%81%AC%EB%B3%B4%EC%9D%B4-KR1 www.deeplol.gg/summoner/KR/Zest-%EA%B9%80%EB%8F%99%EB%AF%BC www.deeplol.gg/summoner/KR/%EC%82%AC%EB%9E%8C%EC%9C%84%EC%97%90%EC%82%AC%EB%9E%8C%EC%97%86%EA%B3%A0-2006
@AsunaX
@AsunaX Ай бұрын
what is frostfire man
@CongTySageDung
@CongTySageDung Ай бұрын
Old K'sante kidnap combo is back lol
@geniusmonster9
@geniusmonster9 Ай бұрын
FYI the designer of ksante, smolder and new skarner was the same
@psychedelaholic
@psychedelaholic Ай бұрын
@@geniusmonster9 Actually glad they were let go, K'Sante is the most toxic overloaded kit LoL has ever seen. Smolder is shit tier design having Elder execute on a passive ability, and Skarner is okay I guess. The amount of CC is a bit much considering how jank his E is but other than that it's fair enough.
@magnov983
@magnov983 Ай бұрын
He can dive and be anti-dive its a bit too insane
@PTGUW
@PTGUW Ай бұрын
​@@psychedelaholicthey nered because trash1 zeus cant play tank and gumayushit cant play zeri, smolder, kaisa
@muimeko2774
@muimeko2774 Ай бұрын
Old K'sante? Boy old Skarner kidnap was there since the dawn of time
@moobo3944
@moobo3944 Ай бұрын
K'sarner
@LoLDobby
@LoLDobby Ай бұрын
Ahahah that was good
@fosterbennington6405
@fosterbennington6405 Ай бұрын
The K stands for kidnap
@blazey5217
@blazey5217 Ай бұрын
Aint no way they just gave rework job to ksante and smolder guy💀☠️
@XvAstarisk
@XvAstarisk 21 күн бұрын
fr.
@albertoarriaga3707
@albertoarriaga3707 Ай бұрын
Hey, i have found that you can use stride breaker and other tiamat actives while on ult kidnap, this is very useful with stridebreaker specifically, to gain a *slight* boost to movement speed while ulting to get kidnaped champions closer to your team or tower
@T3nDen
@T3nDen Ай бұрын
Hollup... Let him cook
@zelcadin
@zelcadin Ай бұрын
nah this is garbo. too many wasted stats on stride. much better things to get. if you really want a slow get gauntlet.
@bharatcarballo5144
@bharatcarballo5144 Ай бұрын
@@zelcadin when did the OP said they wanted a slow? go back to kindergarden. your readin' skills are just NOT it. the OP talked about the movement boost from stridebreaker, never mentioned any slow.
@kentQQ123
@kentQQ123 Ай бұрын
@@bharatcarballo5144 Tankiness is still the top priority, the health from stride is not enough, better for fun only but not a optimum build
@kingol4801
@kingol4801 Ай бұрын
@@kentQQ123 Not everyone needs to build optimal built to have fun
@azucoa8399
@azucoa8399 Ай бұрын
I mean, Skarner top kidnapping you under tower was indeed one of his characteristics, I'm glad that he has different combos to do that now, it gives more room to express skill imo
@thanyou
@thanyou Ай бұрын
this level of disruption and poke could easily make its way to the support role. a great kit for peeling and engaging into 2v2 situations
@fosterbennington6405
@fosterbennington6405 Ай бұрын
Alistar vibes
@MaCoqAttack
@MaCoqAttack Ай бұрын
Agreed I tried him as sup and it felt quite powerful, ended up doing the most damage on the team too lmao
@nicechoicee
@nicechoicee Ай бұрын
Was thinking the same, I recently started using k Sante as supp feels really good
@starmoral5456
@starmoral5456 Ай бұрын
He's pretty good Support! The Tank support item (idk the shield one lol) helps him a lot with, shocker, tanking and CC
@Zorban13
@Zorban13 Ай бұрын
Very nice video. I was a big Skarner top player before the rework and I've been waiting until the new champ banning settles down to play him. It's great seeing all this kidnapping tech, nice to see it's still possible.
@JoseCarlos-zu1pk
@JoseCarlos-zu1pk Ай бұрын
I was waiting for this! Love from BR S2
@ttv_zombiefetus1710
@ttv_zombiefetus1710 Ай бұрын
I actually needed this gangy
@ptrs4587
@ptrs4587 Ай бұрын
My man you are insane. You are the guy everyone copies and uploads the trends from. So much detail into a new "concept" or champion is each time.
@hanwakaranai
@hanwakaranai Ай бұрын
thanks, love your videos Dobby
@ldalexandrite
@ldalexandrite Ай бұрын
10:32 first time seeing Skarner ulti grab the enemy’s model THIS smoothly.
@robertoyanez6186
@robertoyanez6186 Ай бұрын
Hi dobby thx for the video ^^
@zera2314
@zera2314 Ай бұрын
You ever wake up in NA and think you still have an imagination, and then you watch a Korean gameplay video and realize you're a literal potato brain? Yeah, same.
@megamanxx3001
@megamanxx3001 Ай бұрын
I mean tbf any new champ that comes out they just pick comet and play them poke until the meta is established
@zera2314
@zera2314 Ай бұрын
@@megamanxx3001 lol yeah, I'm mainly referring to the plays made in the video. Lots of things I didn't consider as jungle Skarner, too. Mainly the ult over the wall at Baron/Dragon pit.
@thewallsarebreathing2509
@thewallsarebreathing2509 Ай бұрын
came to the comments to say something similar smh
@ttv_zombiefetus1710
@ttv_zombiefetus1710 Ай бұрын
Same here gangy
@remember7671
@remember7671 Ай бұрын
Idk I thought these were very obvious other than the E hitbox. I'm not particularly great and multiple friends independently found some of these tricks as well (namely the R positioning). Comet became a thing for me because I hated vayne matchup but wanted to ban mordekaiser
@jackred422
@jackred422 Ай бұрын
I wish you made more videos directed at jungle, love your videos though!
@TPW_1
@TPW_1 Ай бұрын
tower champion spotlight goes hard
@sleepysuzu
@sleepysuzu Ай бұрын
loldobby the goat
@batuhankuanyshev3678
@batuhankuanyshev3678 Ай бұрын
it plays just like the old skarner, and surprisingly I also played it before the video)
@WarChaserz
@WarChaserz Ай бұрын
Did most of these though for the Arcane never thought of it lol pretty neat something to use against ranged top champs
@d1mensi0n70
@d1mensi0n70 Ай бұрын
Kinda figured this would happen when I saw his potato clear speed and low mana costs
@santumi2298
@santumi2298 Ай бұрын
he does 3:09 no leash 1 smite, tf do u mean potato clear speed
@d1mensi0n70
@d1mensi0n70 Ай бұрын
@santumi2298 that is absolutely not what I got, granted I did mine before the hotfix and also have no clue what the hotfix was lol
@DemonVermin
@DemonVermin Ай бұрын
@@d1mensi0n70currently the hotfix was mostly mana nerfs, but also increased his base AD ratio on Q. The key to clearing with Skarner is to use the E through walls and leaving the camps when they hit like 120 HP. Your passive + pet can burn easily finishes off camps before they reset. I’ve gotten 3:12 with practice, but I am still figuring optimal HP amounts.
@amethonys2798
@amethonys2798 Ай бұрын
That W hitbox is actually illegal. Very interactive gameplay.
@kevindavis3631
@kevindavis3631 Ай бұрын
algorithm comment, ty dobby
@CoKayn01
@CoKayn01 Ай бұрын
just a small detail to add. you don't need to q again in the Q e auto W Q E combo. if you are holding a rock still then it will be thrown away automatically when you ult in the direction of your ult
@simply1087
@simply1087 Ай бұрын
League in 2013: "we want you to strategize and come up with any working scenario for ur team. choose any champion in any lane and make it work League in 2024: no fun allowed
@JustAViewer44
@JustAViewer44 Ай бұрын
Can't wait to see Skarner support.
@grapeman807
@grapeman807 Ай бұрын
Oh trust me im already working on it since it was one of my fav pics pre rework
@JustAViewer44
@JustAViewer44 Ай бұрын
@@grapeman807 Go for it king, as the ones who invented, Pantheon Supp, Camille Supp, now you'll make Skarner Supp something viable.
@ShyGuySpirit
@ShyGuySpirit Ай бұрын
Nice to have a group kidnap again. I miss the Zac kidnap ult.
@yussefcheaitou
@yussefcheaitou Ай бұрын
looks hella strong, literally what sion wishes he could be
@mymymilcock9588
@mymymilcock9588 Ай бұрын
Any chance you can find a ryze player to make a video on I love your videos and would love a updated video even tho the old one still holds up
@yudoball
@yudoball Ай бұрын
I wonder if experimental hexplate would be good. Extra movement speed after using ult and more ult cd
@zodiacplays8400
@zodiacplays8400 Ай бұрын
skarner is like poppy but you can also drag them while stunned
@DragunnitumGaming
@DragunnitumGaming Ай бұрын
Woah! :o
@95DreadLord
@95DreadLord Ай бұрын
a cool part of skarner ult is his orientation gets locked so it matters a lot how you angle it
@Zorrolord
@Zorrolord Ай бұрын
So basicly you never wanna even step close to their sweetspot at before tower, just like with gragas or else you just gonna get bomba'd into tower every single time. Seems like fun and intuitive gameplay to me...
@martinbove1032
@martinbove1032 Ай бұрын
Is this pre hotfix? Love your videos ♥
@user-zz8yi1lk5p
@user-zz8yi1lk5p Ай бұрын
9:55 most satisfying moment...😩👌
@insecurecow4419
@insecurecow4419 Ай бұрын
I’ve been running HoB and building eclipse It’s pretty good
@mohamedelfatih7114
@mohamedelfatih7114 Ай бұрын
Scarner looks like a menance now , fearful and majestic with that tripke steal your oponents is a game changer , Well done making this video glad to see the og champions are getting a fresh air , keep up the good work ~
@PhucNguyen-tg8pn
@PhucNguyen-tg8pn Ай бұрын
Man I'm just scared of this new skarner, imagine 5min getting doved mid by skarner 3 times under turret is just insane ( and he's live after taking 3 turret shot ) :(
@R4GNAR0G
@R4GNAR0G Ай бұрын
New Skarner really said "GET OVER HERE!!" 😂
@animo523
@animo523 Ай бұрын
Battlecast looks clunky, I like it
@ASwallie65
@ASwallie65 Ай бұрын
I've been experimenting with Titanic/Sundered/even eclipse in some easier matchups, the AD is nice and with ingenious making you infamously unkillable with Sundered+Eclipse, you can still fill the Frontline your team needs Edit: Only just now, scrolling through these comments, did I find out tiamat actives work in ult, but I don't think that includes Titanic because it is an auto reset. Maybe swap that for stride?
@yussefcheaitou
@yussefcheaitou Ай бұрын
that ult behind baron is crazy
@Peyote-Poncho
@Peyote-Poncho Ай бұрын
okay, kinda curious. That Brolaf's "Bro-hooo!" Sounded the same as his EN version, but he's on KR. IS that the same regardless of language? Awesome if so.
@silvertiger1210
@silvertiger1210 Ай бұрын
I love how skarner can instantly punish these top laners/top lane champions that have been able to be so overly aggressive for so long. If the wave is dying under turret, and you're a renekton or riven, you shouldn't be able to just stand there, full combo under turret, and walk away like nothing happened. Skarner + Ksante , and hopefully more champions can be added/reworked to re-educate these reckless players.
@Moonflush
@Moonflush Ай бұрын
3:13 Skarner: Omae Wa Mou Shindeiru. Gnar: Nani!?
@biletciamca5559
@biletciamca5559 Ай бұрын
great
@AidanWR
@AidanWR Ай бұрын
No mention of Skarner ult giving him unstoppable, so you can use it as a counter-engage?
@Tearnor
@Tearnor Ай бұрын
This looks like Ksante 2.0 with going behind and ulting to a turret
@Ecaea
@Ecaea Ай бұрын
I swear to god that R locking champions into specific vicinity of the champ look so goddang weird. He looks like hes doing a simba thing when he just shove enemy into his own tower. Wtf bro i prefer old skarner top kidnaps. That baron pit kidnap is so illegal btw. It really brings back memories when i first learned how to play old Skarner kidnap top from this channel too.
@alextoxicness
@alextoxicness Ай бұрын
Nice
@coin9584
@coin9584 Ай бұрын
Gankplank is also one of the biggest counters if he gets ahead unless you have a jungler
@galaxyace1638
@galaxyace1638 Ай бұрын
First like
@Synocra
@Synocra Ай бұрын
thank god we have another loldobby video on gragas v2 cant wait to face skarner top now 😍😍😍
@krishnachaitanyagv5065
@krishnachaitanyagv5065 Ай бұрын
Tower champion spotlight, it's looks like Rell top, probably a lot better since he actually has damage and waveclear, but he will be melted come lategame.
@freshlymemed5680
@freshlymemed5680 Ай бұрын
0:36 - I would have immediately quit and uninstalled. That interaction is funny as hell.
@car-keys
@car-keys Ай бұрын
damn what a cool rework
@LazyK808
@LazyK808 Ай бұрын
Hail of blades is also fun to use with Q
@antyseba5319
@antyseba5319 Ай бұрын
Is e interaction nerfed to not break yone e back?
@imbrochavel1
@imbrochavel1 Ай бұрын
it's so agressive and funny the champions voice on kr server lol
@WOMFT
@WOMFT Ай бұрын
I knew tank runes weren't meant for him now gotta wait for some shojin tech
@mattphyx
@mattphyx Ай бұрын
He makes really good use of almost every keystone in the game in one way or another. Tank Skarner bulid-wise works kinda like Malphite - you take Comet in some matchups (ranged champs, strong early game threats etc.) and Grasp in others.
@intoxication221
@intoxication221 Ай бұрын
The kidnapping is actually insane.
@ZeePanzer
@ZeePanzer Ай бұрын
meanwhile riot removing ksante slow on ulted Q for balance.
@ayv-
@ayv- Ай бұрын
he looks really cool tho
@Ivan-pu5px
@Ivan-pu5px Ай бұрын
hi doooby
@CCSABCD
@CCSABCD Ай бұрын
I didn't notice how massive W's range is lol
@Vile07
@Vile07 Ай бұрын
I play Skarner for fun, these combos will surely help me make the opponents suffer.
@kaleobraga3464
@kaleobraga3464 Ай бұрын
What happens when you grab someone with skarner's ult and then use kalista's ult to pull skarner?
@clarkkentmalabanan5626
@clarkkentmalabanan5626 Ай бұрын
Now you can't get kidnapped alone... He takes your teammates with you
@RickyRozayyy
@RickyRozayyy Ай бұрын
Make a vid about grasp azir
@alejandrouribe8308
@alejandrouribe8308 Ай бұрын
skarner reksai top 100% pick/ban presence at MSI
@morningcoffee4384
@morningcoffee4384 Ай бұрын
Skarner is disabled for MSI
@angpham941
@angpham941 Ай бұрын
Reksai already got her healing halved on minions on live. So yeah no
@Svacioski
@Svacioski Ай бұрын
Hilarious how Olaf is a counter for every single champ and strat at the end of the video xD
@quieness
@quieness Ай бұрын
I hope to one day see a double kidnap duo botlane go to diamond. Like Skarner + Kench or K'sante or smt like that xd
@cyanleyn5985
@cyanleyn5985 Ай бұрын
can you flash while chanelling ult or was it restricted too?
@FluffedUpMaverick
@FluffedUpMaverick Ай бұрын
you can't
@keenfuture
@keenfuture Ай бұрын
I miss old skarner
@versutus2699
@versutus2699 Ай бұрын
this was always the plan of top lane skarner to kidnap people under turret and cc them for life (e > ult > auto > e > auto with enough cdr) but now you have disgusting lane harass, escape through walls, have a way longer threat range and can kidnap pre 6 wtf
@hajinana
@hajinana Ай бұрын
Kennen sucks at his job for like 5 seasons😂
@santiagomorales874
@santiagomorales874 Ай бұрын
Skarner the kidnapper, damm
@HyjaTaliman
@HyjaTaliman Ай бұрын
Skarner Rugal Bernstein! 😊
@sint3640
@sint3640 23 күн бұрын
Half that plays only work because people still haven´t figured out that skarner E gets canceled by EVERYTHING. The renekton E-R tower kindnap for example. If he used W before E, he´d automatically autoattack Skarner right after skarner catches him with E and interrupt the charge. Same with Udyr E and all other abilities functioning like that. Even Vaynes can buffer E in a manner, that AFTER beeing already cought you´ll get knocked back and interrupted. Literally the most clunky ability in the entire game.
@X33Ultras0und
@X33Ultras0und Ай бұрын
Some people see the word nerf and instantly think a champion is ruined.
@zankaa8031
@zankaa8031 Ай бұрын
Oh god. They made Poppy 2.
@Rabestern
@Rabestern Ай бұрын
Your E takes priority of Lee Q recast. Actually your E takes prio over most of abilities. :)
@bennie1079
@bennie1079 Ай бұрын
Skarner support :)
@navarone4031
@navarone4031 Ай бұрын
THIS LOOKS LIKE POPPY TOP WITH EXTRA STEPS
@Re3p4rr
@Re3p4rr Ай бұрын
If i was a skarner main i think I'd hate this rework ^^
@mirramig
@mirramig Ай бұрын
Cant wait for a Skarner one trick to get turbo fed then clean up an already winning fight against Showmaker and be nerfed into the ground forever
@herpderp66
@herpderp66 Ай бұрын
Too bad they just hot fixed Skarner to nerf him out of top lane. They only want him to be played in jungle. Which is dumb because this is no worse than Tahm or ka'sante using your own tower for kills.
@JMD93_gaming
@JMD93_gaming Ай бұрын
lol all they did was nerf the mana cost on W and you dont even feel it with manaflow and biscuits and when u go back for ur 1st buy getting a tear just completely negates ur mana issues. pls know what ur talking about 1st before posting.
@LoLDobby
@LoLDobby Ай бұрын
Even after the hotfix, top skarner is still being used well. We don't really have any mana issues with the build in the video
@nataliiadarmenko7061
@nataliiadarmenko7061 Ай бұрын
But this type of un interactive and minimal counter play, play style is just not fun to play against so I thinks it’s better if they balance it twords jng
@mypersonalaccount4934
@mypersonalaccount4934 Ай бұрын
It's a necessary nerf. W spam with comet is very toxic and uninteractive to play against. 46% winrate for a new champion is too much. But he's still viable on top lane, so that's not too big of a deal. I'd even argue that as long as his W works the same way as it is now, he'll always be viable on top lane.
@jaotrx7163
@jaotrx7163 Ай бұрын
Th w spam max is jsut lame
@villesondre2951
@villesondre2951 12 күн бұрын
How is skarner top vs champs like zac darius fiora irelia'?
@randomguywholikesmangas8626
@randomguywholikesmangas8626 Ай бұрын
we need a white van skin for this champ
@cemsultan.
@cemsultan. 25 күн бұрын
Uber Skarner :)
@howardchung7050
@howardchung7050 Ай бұрын
Lol, this type of style is basically the same as tahm and k'sanate that just cheese you to the tower like that 😂
@AngelikaPatron
@AngelikaPatron Ай бұрын
Is the bugged W fixed or nah?
@peyches00majickmanshin2
@peyches00majickmanshin2 Ай бұрын
Looks like we have another K'Sante. You aren't allowed to touch half the lane without being under the enemy tower.
@angpham941
@angpham941 Ай бұрын
Skarner is how you make a skill expressive tank. Fun combos with obvious downtime to trade back. Ksante when he goes all out is just like turning into Yone mashing buttons
@ryouichi4164
@ryouichi4164 Ай бұрын
dont worry, they'll give skarner the akali treatment. For refrence of what im talking about: Akali's q used to start behind her. This is a similiar situation with his e.
@galdorg4996
@galdorg4996 Ай бұрын
I wonder how this plays vs camille E doesn’t have priority on hookshot and ult has a long cast time she can kite with Q ms
@anthonyosei-kufuor2784
@anthonyosei-kufuor2784 Ай бұрын
So with Ksante they didn’t like how he had “0 counter play “ combos and kills you under tower and he’s been going through a great number of changes and reworks. So now…they rework Skarner so he has “0 counter play “ combos and can not only kill you under tower but can drag you under it from a decent distance away. How is this improvement in Champ design again?
@LowKeyDead.
@LowKeyDead. Ай бұрын
That E into wall stun duration is way too long, considering he can chain his ult
@mistakenot2462
@mistakenot2462 Ай бұрын
He plays a lot like Tahm, but with more aoe and less single target damage.
@bllakc
@bllakc Ай бұрын
The guy who reworked skarner is the same guy who built k'sante and smolder. All 3 can go over mountains.
@santiagocebellan647
@santiagocebellan647 Ай бұрын
No way the e kidnapping people behind skarner is going to stay, that is getting changed next patch for sure
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