These guys are a RARE find telling the truth!!! Most plastic surgeons tell you what you want to hear and take your money, leaving you looking like a chipmunk with trout mouth. I'm a cosmetic surgery recovery nurse in L.A.

KZfaq is so weird, I decided today I wanted to get fillers, and then this was recommended to me.

I went to Dr Chan a couple years ago. He was very honest and genuine. He actually said I don't need what I had gone in to get. You don't see doctors like that anymore

It has taken me more than 8 years to finally feel comfortable and confident to post a review about Gavin Chan. In 2015 I went to the Victorian Cosmetic Institute & was talked into having 4mls of filler injected into my cheeks & nasolabial folds by self appointed cosmetic medicine specialist Dr Somaiye Kadivar. I was told it would lift my cheeks & that the filler was temporary & would last between 12-18 months. Once the procedure was over I looked in the mirror & noticed one cheek was higher while the other cheek was lower & further out from my nose. My nasolabial folds were arched, crooked, unnatural & everytime I smiled my cheeks would pop out like golf balls. I hated the results because the filler added volume instead of a lift like I requested. I made a complaint to Gavin Chan who said it was easily & instantly reversible by injecting Hyaluronidase which is used off label to dissolve fillers. After several attempts over the coming days & weeks it was quite obvious that the filler was still present. On one occasion Gavin Chan dissolved my tear troughs via the cheeks yet I never had filler in my tear troughs to begin with. On another occasion while injecting Hyaluronidase he also started to inject filler into my temple without prior warning. When I asked him why he was injecting my temple he told me he was compensating me for my troubles yet never mentioned that the temple is a danger zone & a risky area to inject. In total I had 6mls of filler injected into my face within 19 days, yet on the Victorian Cosmetic Institute's website it states that 1ml of filler is enough for the entire face. On each occasion Gavin Chan never informed me of the risks, dangers & complications associated with Hyaluronidase & never gave me a consent form to read and sign. A few years later I had a consultation with Professor Mark Ashton who is an expert in filler complications & he told me that if the filler hadn't dissolved by now than it was permanent. He gave me a referral for an MRI of the head which can detect the exact amount of filler & the exact location of the filler. The MRI report stated that I still had upto 4mls of filler in my face even after all the dissolving sessions over the many years. Gavin Chan then decided to look into MRl's & the longevity of fillers after I informed him of my MRI result & capitalised on it by making a KZfaq video claiming he made this discovery. In the meantime I noticed that my facial structure had collapsed, I developed deep hollows under my eyes, my cheeks caved in, my marionette lines were deep, long & dragged down. The corners of my lips sunk into my mouth & my skin was extremely loose, saggy & stretchy all the way down to my neck. Hyaluronidase did not dissolve my fillers but instead permanently dissolved my connective tissue as it can't distinguish between the skin's own HA & the HA in dermal fillers. Hyaluronidase has aged my facial features by 10 years & only a full facelift & necklift can fix this. In 2019 & 2020 I took Gavin Chan to VCAT requesting a refund & a corrective advertising order because his website falsely advertised that the temporary fillers they use last anywhere between 12-18 months. Gavin Chan was granted lawyers on the grounds that his business reputation was at stake while I had to represent myself. I cross examined him with over 90 questions & I presented over 100 pages of supporting evidence & documentation while he only had photos & amended clinical notes. The hearing was held over 2 days & my claims were eventually dismissed by the judge. Gavin Chan got away with not providing me with a consent form for Hyaluronidase on each occasion. I hold Gavin Chan responsible for destroying my looks & my life. The self appointed cosmetic surgeon as he once claimed to be isn't even a GP, he is just a medical practitioner & in my opinion has a special interest in portraying himself as the master of cosmetic injectables in an unregulated industry. Gavin Chan is an injectable junkie, obsessed with the syringe & makes no apologies for ruining my life. Gavin Chan pays a lot of money to have my Google review removed on more than one occasion and I’ve been threatened with legal action by his lawyers for coming forward. He doesn’t want anyone finding out the truth.

You should do a peer reviewed study on this topic and have it published!!

Honest men with integrity!! An anomaly!! Thank You.

I brought up my concern about facial bloat from fillers and the nurse just avoided my question. We need more honest doctors like this 👍

Apparently he destroyed this lady's face with execive fillers back in 2015 when she wanted them removed he kept injecting hyluronidase but to her was clear the fillers were there after years. She went to another doctor who ordered an MRI and saw 4 ml of fillers still there even after all this time and hyluronidase. She took her findings back to him he only offered more hyluronidase and ended up stealing the finding of MRI to detect fillers and coining it as his.The ladys face is all deflated and aged now after all this. Lol so ya not so great of a guy afterall.

I’m 30 and have had circles under my eyes for a long time. I went to a nurse to do a consultation on getting tear trough fillers and she actually *turned me down* and recommended addressing what could be lack of sleep and allergies. That was one of the best, most sensible things she could’ve done and I’ve since made the personal decision to refrain from getting Botox and fillers.

Give this doctor an Oscar for his honesty this really is an eye opener.

Medical professionals with ethics. Now that’s more like it. Good job!

I went to Dr Chan a few years ago and then again recently. He was telling me about this, after I said that I felt the filler in my top lip had stayed put and I only wanted a little bit in the bottom lip. He is an amazing Doctor and really wants you to look natural and refreshed. He never tries to ‘upsell’ you anything and I trust him implicitly. He is also very complimentary, kind and funny.

This information wasn’t meant to scare people or convince us that HA fillers are going to ruin your face. It’s a matter of going to someone who will be honest and put a limit on how much they’re willing to stuff into one persons face. As well as knowing when to say no, or choosing to dissolve the filler first.

May God bless these honest doctors, full of integrity. I am cancelling my filler schedule next week, would be gracefully aging all my life.

Their integrity and honesty makes both these men super hot 😉

Well, I’m cancelling my next filler appointment!

Omg.. What an epiphany. The filler frikking migrates, hence the portruding upper lip so many have nowadays. Thanks for the info!!!

I think I realized the reason there are so few facial MRIs being performed... They look like fucking nightmares.

Thank you for the frank conversation and education on fillers. No doctor tells you this and as patients, we appreciate it so much!

A rhinoplasty surgeon I know also mentioned during a live video online that “temporary” fillers used to reduce the hump on the nose can remain there still years after. He mentioned that they actually still see the filler during surgery, even if it has “disappeared”. It made me realize how we take these claims (like temporary and easy) with a grain of salt and don’t know enough about such important subjects

Best video by a doctor in filler I have ever seen. Thank you for this.

Dr. Weiler in Baton Rouge claims that filler is completely gone after a year and that anyone who claims otherwise is stealing my money. Weiler only makes this claim because he refuses to take responsibility for bad filler. Thank you for being honest.

Dr Chan thanks so much for bringing your special guest on..and for bringing specialised fields to light, it’s so interesting. Keep educating us! 🌷

I'm a fan of sincerity and ethics. Subscribed.

Had very deep nasolabial folds at age of 46 - as evidenced with photos . Had juvederm injections and they have never returned - I’m now 56! Have mentioned it to couple of practitioners and they’ve told me it’s impossible......I feel vindicated now. The photos prove it.

I’m thankful that one person is honest enough to bring this up and confirm my thoughts openly. I have always wondered where fillers go after they disintegrate. I never saw any information about it and suspected that some people’s whose faces look unnatural had used too much of it and it caught up to them over time

You're being so transparent here. I like that you two are questioning the migration of dermal filler. Well done.

so much of humility from you! thanks for that! not all doctors are being that humble... Nice to see you are questioning ourselves.

Please add more MRI photos of other patients. It's very interesting

Thank you for being so transparent. This is good to know before starting injections. I've had only a small amount in my lips and that may be all I do now, since hearing this info. Your honesty is refreshing! Thank you!!

I have been debating on getting lip fillers for a while now. Very happy I watched this video. I hope you continue to make these videos because these could save so many people.

I could listen to Dr's calming voice for hours! The stress lines on my face relax almost immediately....

OMG. I just went through this. My jowls? Not actually jowls! It was 7 year old filler that doctor put to ‘sculpt jawline.’ Same with smile lines. By the way, I didn’t go in for either of those! It took several sessions to dissolve (and still can’t get it all). I had doctors tell me that it was impossible for the filler to still be there. But a doctor finally agreed to try dissolving it and within hours of the dissolver, I looked 10 years younger. And the filler definitely migrated to places nearby that I never had injected. What a costly and stressful lesson! I feel vindicated to hear you talk about this.

Thank you for educating US‼️everything you guys said it makes a lot of sense. Some places get offended when you ask them questions. I wish there was more patient Doctors like you guys‼️

No idea how this got in my recommended but it's fascinating. Totally subbing

Your channel is well overdue! Glad to have found you!!!💕

What a relief to see doctors actually taking time to research and question their applied practices publicly like this, so thank you for the transparency. Here in Bangkok we have a plethora of beauty clinics that offer just about everything from botox, lasers, thread lifting, fillers, to lipo. The issue here is the market is quite unregulated. With injectables it can be difficult to tell the validity of some of the products , as I have been told there are many fake/knock off products from china being distributed to clinics at a lower price. Not to mention the liscesing requirements needed to administer here. The scary thing is, what kind of substances are in these knock offs? I assume Australia doesn't t have this kind of issue.

Thank you so much doctors for your integrity and honesty on this issue!! ❤️❤️

Love this doc, rarely honest and ethical. Gives you all the information you need. 👏🏼👏🏼🙌🏽❤️

You should write an article about this!!!!

I'm so happy they made this video, helps us all make an informed decision.

Can see the determination to share their findings and speak measuredly, factually, respectfully, yet honestly. Such an eye opening and beneficial discussion.

Thank you for making this video…. Please don’t stop creating educational and informative content like this for the greater good. A million thanks again!!

I'm really glad I came across this video before I had any filler work done. Thank you for your insight!!

I had no idea, thank you for enlightening us! I recently went to a place to get my lips done again and they actually refused because they said I still have some filler in my lips from last time, it’s good to know some places actually care. Thanks again!

I had gotten filler underneath my eyes, and they overfilled it a little. One year later I went back to have it dissolved and they wouldnt do it because they said it prob wasn’t filler if it had been there a year. I went to a different doctor because I know my face extremely well and she agreed to try the dissolver. 4 hours later it completely dissolved like I knew it would and went back to the other place to tell them my experience. They were so surprised it lasted that long but they need to know that for some people it can last that long if not even longer. Thanks for making this video!

I don't even know how I ended up watching this video, but I am so glad that I did. One of the best videos on KZfaq. I am so glad that I don't have fillers and I definitely will not be getting any in the future. Thank you for your honesty. I subscribed to your channel based on this video.

I believe you are on the cutting edge right now. Less is the way to go and patient education around longevity of filler is a key to changing the way we practice. I agree with you both. Thank you for this information. I can't wait to hear more!

Thank you so much for making this accessible to the public! This information is greatly needed!

This was the most inter video I’ve watched in quite some time. It’s new information and discovery by these two men.

I found this fascinating!!! I’m training in MRI while finishing my BA in MRI. I subscribed because of this video and would love to see more videos discussing this topic.

Thank you so much for this. 🙌🙌 I totally support all of your recommendations and think that a study is well overdue using MRI. Having better guidelines and understanding in particular on the migration of lip filler is really important (I.e. if some pt's are more susceptible, which products are more likely for this to occur, if volume is related etc). I often use less than 0.5mL in lips to ensure that a natural aesthetic is achieved and maintained, which is very achievable with this volume. Once again a fabulous video! Thank you Doctors.

Love the video. It made me think that I fell into the filler trap myself. I love my look right after I have fillers then I get used to it and after 2 or 3 months I want more. We need good objective doctors who will say no to filler every few months!!

This is maybe the sixth time I've watched this since it was put online. Shout this message from the roof tops!!!! Thank you! Your channel should be required viewing for doctors and practitioners.

The problem here is that pharmaceutical companies continue to lie about their products jeopardising professionals careers and clients health while they rake in billions of $$$$$$. Thank you for exploring this and sharing, I will not be in a hurry to get fillers now.

This better go viral, you did an amazing job with the research

So glad you post these very informative topics. Especially using language the average person understands. Keep them coming.

seems insanely rare to find and ethical cosmetic doctor. thank you for taking pride in your honesty & career. very eye opening.

This is really interesting. Needs further study and to be written up in a peer reviewed journal. Thanks for posting.

This is some great insight!! Since I’m quite young with a lot of media influences I too thought about filler, just the bare minimum to upgrade my look. Hearing this really does detail the fact that filler isn’t as ‘simple’ of a procedure most claim it to be. Thank you for this information!!

Thank u! I love to see drs asking questions and sharing research on this topic, its why we have the advancements we do today and why it will only get better

I am SO grateful for this information. I have never had fillers but have allows thought about the tear trough filler. I have always been afraid of looking puffy or overdone. Thank you for confirming that I am fine the way I am. We need more people like you two.

At 35 I had juvederm just around my mouth and it lasted 11 years at 52 I’m having it done again today.. it’s only slightly noticeable so I would say it was very worth it!!

I have undereye filler, hyaluronic acid, which I can still feel is there after 3 years. I suspected fillers to last longer than the 6-12 months but it’s good to see proof of it now!

Great information - and, thanks for explaining in a manner that’s easily comprehensible to non-medical folks.

Respect for your honesty and ethics ❤️. Truly impressed!

I am so grateful you posted this video. Just getting into Aesthetics after 20 years in medicine, I have been seeing people with extremely irregular facial contours in between their filler touch ups, as well as the "duck lips", which are not anatomic for the human race or aesthetically pleasing at all. I have seen "experts" who promote these fillers boast about having 16 syringes in their face, but all I see is horribly expanded mask like faces that look too big for their bodies. Since I have seen them in between filler injections, I had a feeling that the fillers degrade irregularly, creating loose sagging skin, and they really have no option except to inject even larger volume of fillers to prop everything up into place again. I was holding off on getting into fillers, and glad I did. So glad to see your MRI pictures finally explaining that they actually migrate away from their intended location, and validating what I had been worried about all along. Thank God for honest practitioners like you both who dared to post this video!

Wow!! Just watched you both on HOW LONG DO FILLERS REALLY LAST. I'm a 60 yo white women, and was considering Tear trough filler. NOT ANY MORE! ITS AN AMAZING cutting edge you are perusing and I think just in time. So many women I know having been an Ophthalmic Surgical Technician have had these now so called temporary fillers and still want more. And yes, the idea of utilizing the MRI is brilliant!!Can't wait to watch your next video. Thanks for the info.😉😳🎓

This video is amazing! U both are so honest and I wish more drs would be the same as u are!

I’m so glad I found this video cuz even though your mri findings are a bit concerning, it feels good to have my long-held suspicions about filler confirmed, and to know I’m crazy or imagining things. Thank you both for sharing this video and for all that you do... Your honesty, integrity, and dedication to your craft are truly inspiring. The world needs more doctors like the two of you ❤️

Wow!!! Thank you so much for this video!!! Something we will be considering in our practice. Please update with your findings over time.

yeah I have really slowed down on this and focusing on my skin. I like the lip flip when done correctly. I had this done a month ago and really like it. A good injector is needed. Thanks for being so forthcoming.

You have changed my future decisions. Thank you so much guys

You are a real deal. God bless you for teaching people who are looking to do fillers.

I found this title intriguing bc I had some filler under my eyes - once, over a decade ago - and I have thought for a very long time that it seemed to be lasting, and lasting, and lasting...I guess I'm lucky that I don't have the funds to keep pumping my face full of filler, ha ha, but I have recently been thinking of trying to re-fill some volume loss around my lips. This video has been incredibly helpful in deciding how to proceed. Thanks and keep up these amazing videos!

Excellent video. It may be a decade or more before we see the full long term side effects of these fillers. It's so tempting to dabble but there's so much more risk involved than is disclosed by the majority of doctors.

I really appreciate your videos and demeanor. I wish more doctors were like you.

Wow, what an eye opener. I never had fillers or any type of cosmetic procedure. I have thought about it. Thank you for being honest. I hope that eventually there will be a long term study on fillers.

Wow, refreshing to find honesty. I had a bunch of injections (liquid face lift) 4 plus years ago, in my left cheek I had some filler pushing on a nerve. Dr said it was impossible, it felt wildly uncomfortable for 18 months, when it either migrated or resolved. Who knows what is left, but I feel it triggered an autoimmune episode.

I’ve been looking into under eye filler since I was a young girl because of my under eye circles. Never seen a video with a doctor who is so informed and obviously loves what he does. Thank you for this information ❤️

What an amazing discussion!! You've enlightened an important point to be taken care of.

Thank you so much for doing this video. All you need now is for people to LISTEN! PLEASE try to get BBC interested in showing a program on just this issue. Bless your socks. Happy Christmass and all the best in 2020

Respect to this doctor for his honesty 👏👏

Thank you so much for doing seriuos medical research!! Laboratories and trade marks can say wathever they have to, to sell their product, and pysicians often just repeat what the "literature " says, and that some times it is not accurate or simply wrong. So it is a admirable that you really take care and do this effort.

Love and appreciate your candid forensic look at fillers, and different parts of the face

This video is amazing I am just about to embark on filler training and honestly I think this video has the ability to create a new wave of aesthetic practitioners that will be more caring about their customers wellbeing. I.e I now know to look out for moved filler and can prepare to dissolve it and know when to turn clients away and educate clients to give them the best results. Thank you so much

Very educational! Every person that has or is having or considering fillers should watch this. I love fillers but you need to be smart and go to the right professionals. It’s your face after all. Thanks so much for this video 💉😉

Loved this video! Thank you Dr. Chan and Dr. Master 🙏🏻

It's good to see Drs who hasn't lost their ethical backbone. I would fly to see you if I ever need anything done. I've subscribed.

I love the honesty . Thanks for the information. Please continue to research this. Your findings will assist patients and doctors alike.

Thank you so much for such an informative video which awakens us, you are truly a great doctor who cares about us wanting to look good , but there are problems that we will face or not if we are lucky enough, Thank you once again with gratitude, Bee 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻😍🙏🏻

I did research on this before this video because i theorised this!! A study was done in China saying the exact same thing!!!

Thank you for sharing your findings. Very interesting, and answers a few questions I have had about what happens to fillers in the body.

Finally honest people, I love the channel of Dr Gavin Chan, thank you for all the great content !

Thank you! I’m so happy to see practitioners such as yourselves putting patients first. I share the hope that there will be a cultural shift in the cosmetic industry to help guide patients away from an over-filled face. As an injector, I steer away from highly cross-linked fillers. I also gravitate more toward collagen stimulation modalities for face as opposed to traditional dermal fillers. Spending time with a patient and discussing a “less is more” strategy has also helped me in my practice. Again, thank you so much!

I just recently had filler under my eyes, and it moved. I appreciated being able to see this video and will go tomorrow to get it dissolved. So thankful for doctors like you both, to help us. Greed is a terrible thing. I now understand why I suddenly have jowls, the filler has moved from beside my mouth. That appointment cannot come fast enough to get this crap out of my face. Thanks for educating us all.

I really appreciate this video. Very interesting findings and important to know if you ever plan on getting injections. I also love the honesty!

Subbed based on this. Best recommended by KZfaq ever. I’m in Victoria and want to book with these gents

Being an injector its why I lean towards counseling clients on the benefits of PRP instead of fillers. Many who have a series of PRP injections and maintenance have stopped getting filler all together. Great video!

Amazing video of truth.. thank you doctors for this vital information. My personal experience for under my eyes has lasted longer than what my Dr. told me, which it’s awesome, and it conquers exactly with what you’re saying. I liked and agree with what you said, “treat it with respect.” I think personally that many people are going over board with the whole filler trend.