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Tommy Gainer what if she pays for it too?

potatotiel A little more than half the times

potatotiel Im sorry but most women i know split most stuff or at least pay according with what they earn and they offer men as much presents as they offer them, im not saying that men don't ever pay for dates they do as well as women do if they like them, the red pill is a lot of stuff some do indeed are true some not really.

potatotiel Both

If she's fucking someone else, then she is probably isn't making you wait. You're just choosing to stay in the friend zone. lol Learn to recognize when someone simply doesn't like you and move on.

@@brittany1484 Not necessarily. You might be a good provider/attention provider.

She might be retaining you as a backup if the first guy doesn’t work out.

Be that guy. Mid 30s recently divorced looking at my old Instagram msgs and dating when tinder came out- that's where I met my ex wife she was on vacation from europe.. Cake- talk shit, flirt, ask funny questions but still try to get personal so they open up,- flirt- every message you send should be thought out, even choose corny ones, especially those, you want every message she reads to make her smile, you want her to read your text before her emails at work- cake- imply you want to and will fuck, be creative, like my date for tomorrow I told her I'd walk her dog all day, she had a photo of her dog and it was a stand alone message.. my date for saturday(2nd date, but before the first we talked on the phone and I told her how sexy her accent was after) she offered to take me out for pizza Saturday and I said I wanted to eat peruvian- which she is.. definitely she got the gist and is down for whatever I plan Saturday... even working out tomorrow, it's a big city and she owns her own business so scheduling- I offer a bar my friend works at- she offers one across town probably close to where she lives,I ignore that and and map find a dope spot kid of in the area, and send to her and tell her when- her response is perfect and I say "let's do it"- another standalone text- could be ambiguous but by itself it gives her the choice to proceed or not... she loves the response. I won't message her until 1 hr before then. I had 1 itis bad, 2 kids and 13 months later I've only been with 4 women, kinda steady with a divorcee but we were just fucking mostly, going to events and fucking a lot.. but finally breaking through, getting past the baby momma - like i woke uo to hateful texts from her today as i often do and blocked her from calling or messaging- shes already blocked everywhere else- but like keeping that avenue for her to affect me like women will twist whatever knife they can and try to convince you it doesnt exist or you stabbed yourself... you can do it. No woman's pussy is worth more than your dick. Don't treat woman poorly, but don't be nice and don't care about women you don't know. Make them earn you. Turn the fucking tables. That's how I downed several women a week for years before I had kids, and how I'm now like I can't schedule all my inbox so I'm focusing on the hottest and most convenient ones to get my stroke back. Just an almost 37 yo who's been out of the game since my 20s lighting yall up, idk know about the rp then or all this wisdom and I did a lot right, but what they say to avoid are some of my biggest regrets.. 2k in child support each month which isn't too big a deal its being attached to a crazy pos bitch mother that is.. my other kids are great but the last 2 with this woman it's a constant headache.. Fuck bitches. Get money. If you're a single father like me it's definitely more difficult to pull 20s but not impossible- and use your single dad status as an advantage- be that to pull single moms or appear established in life to other women..

Not true

If the woman is no longer a virgin, no waiting is justifiable. Waiting for girls with high body counts is just a theatre. Only hungry betas do that.

Bingo. I'd love to hear from the men on how they expect a low body count while simultaneously expecting sex in the first few dates?? Sounds like they expect women to hold off on every guy out there, but miraculously she gives in to HIM. As if men don't use women for sex in the first few dates then dump them.

Right… wtf. Women who wait are women who respect themselves and need to be emotionally connected guess what that takes? Time!!!!! I don’t like sleeping with ppl I barely know… it’s not good if I’m not fully turned on by them mentally, emotionally and spiritually… s

Agreed

BoardWheel i film you: She said i want a guy who work out - but she doesn’t! She said i want a guy with good job - she doesn’t She said i want a guy to be intellectual- she is not... And list continues. In reality they all at least feel who they are - so they hang out with same status and quality people as they are. But they will keep dreaming about Mr. Right guy (who she probably even won’t want to fuck)

Buuzzsaw Touched Me applies to men most average men want 10 women who is 10 at every aspect and hardly get it and marry very different type so?

Koko Chocolate lol .... If average men wanted 10s only, we wouldn't see so many average to below average women complaining about guys hitting on them all the time.

True ! Even when women are in relationship, they always look for someone who is doing better. They unrealistic standards suits maybe with 0,01 % of men - and these men know that there are a 10/10 ... why they should get in a relationship with a 6 or 7 /10 mother with 2 kids who doesn't bring anything to the table.

This seems bit odd for me to like is it good or not cmon, do I wait with a girl or do I just hit it and go with a flow no feeling involved

@@zvonimirskvorc3006 this is often the contradiction of red pill guys lol

There isn't a contradiction here necessarily. His point is that girls that try and hold that up as a totem - when they have a history of hook ups and shit like that - are not really interested in the guy. This isn't about women with low body counts, or virgins, but it's about women who seem to control the relationship with tokens of intimacy...that's the problem.

False dichotomy. Those are not opposites or mutually exclusive.

Yes -it does mean she is playing a game. She is comodifying sex as a unit of exchange

Sorry man, the world is full of greys...it's not "she's playing you" or "she's riding the cock carousel". There's in between. A buddy told me about meeting a group of women in a bar one night and one offered to blow him in the men's within 30 minutes......that's a low quality woman. Another got to know him over the course of the night and he's still with her 10 years later, bought a house together etc etc etc. If you invest money in a woman, you're doing it wrong. If all you're into is the tingling, then there's nothing wrong with that either.

It s not like you as a man while dating a woman are not able to have sex with other women. Sex should not be the objective of men, just the cherry on top.

@@andipajeroking lookee here, we have a beta in our midst......I think you missed the class on biology or did you skip it to attend gender studies?

True dud

y u gay?

BonBon Nope, I'm a female who is engaged to my first boyfriend.

Exactly! It makes no sense

The issue is inconsistency. You’ll make certain guys wait, but not other men.

Astrid Sørensen I don't understand it either, personally I think 3 dates isn't that much. Need to make it like 7 at Least.

Red RaiderRider fight it out, thunderdome style. XD

Maybe it’s not a guy who wrote this here! So it’s can be a lie! Or one of them cheating not a big deal if they don’t share the stories, use condoms and overall happy!

Wow congrats man

vinniecorleone62 I tip my hat to you, but I hope you do realize how insanely moronic it was to propose after 1 night, no matter "how special" it was and that it turned out well for the two of you.

vinnie - Please, whatever you do, NEVER give relationship or dating advice to anyone. What you did was insanely irresponsible and foolish. You basically pulled the pin on a grenade, shoved it down your pants, and beat one in a trillion odds when it didn't go off. You are soooooooooooooooooooo freaking lucky you have not been utterly wiped out.

I'm right with yeah

Now, thats the spirit of a winner!

Marthaavlogs that’s why you should make up your OWN MIND and make decisions that are in line with your values. In other words, what this guy is suggesting actually weeds out the guys who are just looking to use you. And there are plenty of them.

Marthaavlogs...i totally agree..

most woman get around this by not giving their exact numbers, its not like theres some dude out there with a clicker

Yeah, 3 or 4 dates is NOT enough. Why don't people respect the sanctity of sex? It's not a small deal!

@@williamjconde it becomes less confusing when you stop mixing judgements from two different kinds of men, or rather from two groups of men with different motives

Dating advice from women is guaranteed to get you friend zoned. Its poison - avoid it. If you're regularly dating one woman and not getting laid you're being played for a chump. Women know immediately which guys they'll fcuk. If she's not banging you she's just not that into you. You'll probably have to give her a few dates so she doesn't have to feel like she's a slut. After that trust your experience.

It was a good advice. Almost everyone here is cynical and bitter because of hurtful experiences with women and yet you guys are still going for the easy ones. *The easy ones have been fucked and dropped so many times that they aren't right in the head, anymore.* They developed all kinds of issues. They aren't falling in love that deep, they get easily bored and they are far more likely to cheat.

Svetogor, Please, define "crazy" for me, because I dont think we are talking about the same thing.

Tell a woman how you feel = instant rejection.

​@Stefan Urban What are you trying to tell me? That there are no differences between women? Don't be ridiculous. They are as different as men are. They have different values, different goals, and different "issues". You are the naive one if you ignore that.

scott sanger ...... so why only once?

Completely disagree. I totally get where you are coming from but its the MAN who should be choosing to wait. If you are doing things correctly, she should be WANTING to have sex with you and it is YOU who are choosing to wait. The problem is that so few men TEACH their son's HOW to build attraction and comfort with the girl he is pursuing to the point that she WANTS to have sex because she is so attracted and so comfortable with him that it is the man who is CHOOSING to wait. Anything short of the MAN leading is a failure as a man to be in charge of what is going on in the relationship from the get go.

Rob Schaller i agree in part but in reality I agree you can have enjoyable off the chain sex with someone who means nothing but nothing is stopping a man from saying no. the reality is men approach women primarily for sex because they don't need women for protection or provision. a man compartmentalises his tasks so sex is just sex until he wants more. a man who only wants sex will show his hand. women control sex but men control relationships.

Gayyyyy

Lol get rekd

Wow 3-4 dates before sex? What incredibly high standards she must have. I’ve heard of this 3 dates before sex "rule" and it’s a pretty low bar in my opinion.

I sometimes want to wait a couple of dates but somehow I always end up inside my dates on the first one 🥺

Female here as well, I love these videos especially when compared to what the female dating coaches, lol... my question would be if guys want sex so quick how is a woman to keep her notch count low if she gives it up. My boyfriend who is alpha waited about 7 weeks. We had had lots of very hot make out sessions and many conversations. We are both divorced and over 45. This is my first true alpha so I want to be the right kind of woman for him because he deserves that. Just curious because if a woman has sex on the 3rd or 6th date she would end up with lots of guys in just a year or two.

pump and dump you get used 😂

Some truth bombs in there.

Katherine Kelly Great comment! I love how you laid it out.

Katherine Kelly Interesting comment. Would you care to elaborate on what you perceive as male fear of female sexuality?

Katherine Kelly girls cum...?

Katherine Kelly I've read your comments on couple videos and I've realized that you write something really deep and logical truth. Just curious about your age after how many years you got this experience and being a woman you say truth about females. Appreciate your honesty.

LILIANA SURIEL Agreed. Sex is more costly to women than it is to men, and women have to take responsibility for their lives and bodies. The third date is too soon for me but generally I know by the first date if I want to have sex with him or not. I told the current guy I'm seeing on the first date that I like to wait and he said he's fine with that. We've been seeing each other for a month and a half and I think the time is near but I have to wait for him to say it.

warmcozy what makes you want to fuck a guy

True it’s nots enough for me it will be a while in the relationship if it gets there, maybe 2 months or more because I want to wait till I know the relationship will last a good while is that ok?????

Modern Savage25 exactly, even though my body is telling me it wants it I’m make them wait,

LILIANA SURIEL If you met Brad Pitt would you make him wait until the 4th or 5th date?

F PC

that's why I love this guy lol

Women in the west are so f*cked up that they don't even know how messed up they are. Feminism has destroyed them Its pervasive everywhere in the western culture. It's in what they read, see and hear. You are on the blue pill pal and yo dont even know it

@@chuck1052 Exactly

Exactly.

If you treat her like a Queen she'll treat you like a subject!

No there ain’t anything wrong because many concepts today’s world seem overrated truthfully that’s why you got to detach from sheep’s in society people that follow this trend or that normalisation one of ‘em being intimacy importance you see Break the cycle

Yes, you need to experience it and you'll feel better and understand.

your're acting like you have a choice to just go out and fuck a woman as soon as you meet her.. you're lucky to even have a relationship at all with someone decent looking without throwing away 1000's of dollars

@The Breach It's not like he has tons of time to waste.

Exactly, you shouldn’t have to give it away so quick, just let them know your a virgin and when the time is right it will happen😊

Seato ejecto cuzzzz

Colorful Days, there's nothing difficult about this. This generation of adults has lost the use of common sense. Mating is a negotiation. If you don't like the deal, leave and find a better deal. If one doesn't want to wait and the other doesn't want to put out, go your separate ways and find people that align with your wants and desires. Life is already hard enough, why complicate it more?

Date more people. A lot more people.

@Colorful Days - Then don't give it away so quick. Really, it can wait.

One more thing. "good guy" and "beta" are not the same thing. Nor is "bad guy" and "alpha".

Kyle, I don't mean to offend you, but equating "good guy" with "beta male" is stupid. Most women want a provider. I agree with that but successful people are not beta males. They are Alphas. They are winners and leaders. And that's not all women want from a guy to consider him to be the one to settle down with. They want someone who will not cheat on them or leave them for someone younger when they hit the wall. They want a good father. Things like that. I don't blame them for any of this, because it all makes sense.

I know horrible cases like that as well. But I also know plenty of cases in which married guys with children are cheating on their wives or leaving them for someone younger. Imagine that from the perspective of a woman who invested her best years into a guy who then drops her like garbage, as soon as she gets wrinkles. That's fucked up too. There are plenty of people who aren't marriage material. Maybe it's even the majority. That is why I think it is very important to gather whatever information you can get about a person's past and to judge them unforgivably by it before you commit to them.

+Alexa Konig Your comment is a load of shit.There is nothing wrong with being open about your sexuality and having sex within the first few dates. What IS wrong is when the man OR woman are seeing other people at the time. Peoples don't go on dates to be buddies, they go on dates for a passionate relationship. A woman who thinks holding back sex just to test a guy is an idiot and playing games, and a real man isn't going to play games. He is going to express his sexual interest in a woman, and if she can't express herself, then goodbye. I've never broken up with a woman because she fucked me quickly. I've broken up with them because I started to see her true side when the facade she put up started to fall down since we are now closer, due to fucking.

Agreed.

Thank you!

As a woman, I'm going to say that it's really strange for a woman to keep a man arbitrarily waiting for sex when there's otherwise good chemistry and they both really want to be intimate

@@donnawinters3587 I don't think the point it so keep a man waiting (that's just rude). The point for some people is they want to know the other person before having sex. After three dates, where the both of you are hiding your dirtiest secrets, you don't even know if your partner is crazy or violent. You know nothing about them. You just feel a very superficial, sometimes strong pull to them which says nothing about the compatibility of your values or lifestyles. It's just lust, a chemical reaction happening in your brain. Isn't brain chemicals a very unreliable way to pick your partners?

​@BigLBA1 I'm very interested, but too scared to ask how they teach children to swim in your country. It sounds rather dangerous.

@BigLBA1 I got the analogy. Thing is, I think the analogy fits this situation perfectly? If you throw people into water some will obviously learn to swim, but most drown, right?

scott sanger Lust Amirite :/

My experience is that a woman will insist on manipulation and complete control. If I want to be caged I'll consider giving the relationship an extension.

What? Those deep conversations are typically left for later in the relationship and will reveal themselves overtime. If there's chemistry and both parties are feeling it, I see no reason to wait for intimacy.

Keep taking your red pills

These girls are stripping first date everytime mow. Its all timing and mood

Shanice Butler prolly

Shanice Butler exactly

@scott sanger absolute bullshit.

@scott sanger most of the time

@scott sanger sometimes it takes longer for us to decide

Go to his website and prepare to throw him a ton of cash for his input.

Complete rubbish - it also works both ways, so the female victim mentality is hardly relevant. The condom breaks he'll be on the hook for 18 years child support. It's hiughly unlikely that she'll be tied for life as she trots down to the divorce lawyer nearly 70% of the time.

​@@thehowlingmisogynist9871 well being pregnant is being tied for life In the sense that no other man at least not one of value that she desires will want her. And her anniciating the divorce doesn't change the fact that she puts herself in a fuck up position as well ( she probably despises her husband so badly that she would rather be lonely and provide for herself for the rest of her life because that's what is more likely to happen). As a man, although I agree it screws you too if you manage to have your finances and physic right you'll have a chance with other women. I know men who divorced and got a new younger hotter chick pregnant and moved on

Fantastic comment. I usually agree with everything Richard says, but in matters of virginity, he's dead wrong.

Nice comment mate

Hey little beta how is your day

Women either love it or hate it, either way it doesn't matter to me. I'm not going to change my direct approach to life.

Thx Sam

Bullshit, prude

yeah I would ..did, just fine :D the sleeping with *is* getting to know them. use condoms :)

you will know them truly only after a break up sadly. it's all an act people put on. everywhere and always.

@@VanezArt Very true words.

what if all i want is head...then what

That's what I did, I was single for 5-6 or even 7 years because I got cheated on and such, relationships just didn't seem to work. Eventually though (now I'm 29yo) I wanted to find someone again, mostly because I'm kinda emotional guy and need that contact and such with a girl that likes me and I like her. You'll figure out what you want some day, for some people it takes longer time. I'm now myself in a relationship again, I hope it goes well but I'm being careful

NukeCorruption that is good. It is always good to be careful. I am very careful and very selective now.

Gentugo yeah I learned the lesson the hard way to be careful, my first love ever cheated on me after 3 years

Be your own dog and do what's right for you.

No. He's probably like a lot of men and think "not my daughter." But to be fair women think this of their sons as well.

Jason B...i totally agree...no wonder men and women have all these problems...thinking they are wiser than the Almighty God.

We represent God in differientated form.😉😎✌🏾

There's a reason the divorce rate is so high.

Stick around son, I'll show you the way.

Someone waiting for marriage could

My observations have been that 35+ yr old women that salsa dance... well lets just say they are pretty bad gf material.

Exactly how me and my fiance are. We started as a LDR, 3 hours apart and busy working class people. We go on just 3 dates per month. Every day we talk 1-3 hours on the phone to nkock out the "get to know eachother" better stuff and when we finally see eachother it's all about the physical experiences, dates to nice places, nice hotels, good sex, etc. Get the hard conversations over with on the phone with eachother and survive your first few arguments/disagreements over the phone then your trust and confidence in eachother grows.

hahahaha yea he does