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How LOW Can It Go? | Steam Deck Thermal Modding

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CryoByte33

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@jackinabackpack7599
@jackinabackpack7599 Жыл бұрын
Kyle. You are the gift that just keeps on giving! There is a lot of scattered content on thermal modding but the video you created has the next level of polish to it. Sincere thank you from the community.
@cryobyte33
@cryobyte33 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for watching another video! 😁 As always, I'm just happy to help.
@jackinabackpack7599
@jackinabackpack7599 Жыл бұрын
I just had an idea. Drilling out vent holes in the back of the old Jsaux case would give you the best of both worlds right?
@cryobyte33
@cryobyte33 Жыл бұрын
@@jackinabackpack7599 theoretically similar, but with a lot of the heat sunk into the backplate still 🙂
@MikeJones888x
@MikeJones888x Жыл бұрын
Kyle, you're a legend!
@cryobyte33
@cryobyte33 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for being subscribed and watching the video! I hope it helps out!
@TheRealPaul_Morphy
@TheRealPaul_Morphy Жыл бұрын
​@@cryobyte33Hello cryobyte. I hope you're doing well. I've noticed that update 1.61 brought FSR 2.1 to cyberpunk 2077, so I was wondering if you were going to do a new performance video for the game?
@cryobyte33
@cryobyte33 Жыл бұрын
@@TheRealPaul_Morphy I plan to make an update after phantom liberty releases, since they're bumping the requirements 🙂
@cryobyte33
@cryobyte33 Жыл бұрын
As a note about the vented backplate: 1. I tested VRMs, ICs, the SSD and the RAM for temperatures with the vented backplate and saw less than 1 degree difference from the stock backplate. 2. A lot of air still gets taken in through the rear vent, even with the vented backplate, so I have very few concerns with device longevity, but wanted to be fully transparent! Edit: I used the "sensors" command for SSD and motherboard temperatures, spot checked with the other results I gathered from MangoHUD. The ICs and VRMs were a bit more difficult. I used a temperature probe wired through the back vent to measure the surface temperatures, and verified its accuracy with a backplate-off IR thermometer test. Obviously the backplate-off results are cooler, but I verified that the probe was accurate that way.
@bits2646
@bits2646 Жыл бұрын
OK that's the answer I was looking for :)
@Meninem_
@Meninem_ Жыл бұрын
Finally bro, thank you for relieving my stress with the vented back plate. I bought it but started to think about how tf air passively cools the Ics, ram, etc
@lanydaen2702
@lanydaen2702 Жыл бұрын
I love this video, but I wish you went into as much detail about your validation of all critical component temperatures as you did with the rest of the testing methodology. The airflow the way Valve designed it is very much needed to keep things like the charging IC and MEM4 within safe temperatures, as per GN's analysis. While I am definitely open to the idea that the JSAUX backplate could be an improvement all around and would love the performance/aucoustic gains, I would need some more details than (crudely put, I am sorry) "trust me, I did some testing and it all seemed fine to me" in a comment. It seems like you actually did some thermocouple testing, I would have love it if that was included in the video! I'd love to modify my Deck in this way, but as it stands the details as to the thermal safety of doing so just aren't enough for me to risk my Deck.
@Frencho9
@Frencho9 Жыл бұрын
👍 Thanks!
@GogOlo4
@GogOlo4 Жыл бұрын
Your videos are really cool! But what about the power consumption? If the SoC has more headroom in terms of temperature and therefore keeps the clock more stable, it should also consume a little more power, right? Or is that compensated by the lower power consumption of the slower rotating fan?
@GMMReviews
@GMMReviews Жыл бұрын
I'd looked at thermal pads on Steam Deck to see if it was worth it, but never found any benchtest I could trust, but you went above and beyond as always! Seems like the backplate + thermal pad combo is absolutely worth it!
@JFlogerzi
@JFlogerzi Жыл бұрын
100% but even good paste with back plate is worth it.
@cryobyte33
@cryobyte33 Жыл бұрын
That's exactly why I wanted to make this video, thank you for watching it! 😁
@rohacha9iin40
@rohacha9iin40 Жыл бұрын
Which backplate though? Stock or JSAUX?
@JFlogerzi
@JFlogerzi 10 ай бұрын
@@rohacha9iin40 juasx v2
@bananachild1936
@bananachild1936 Жыл бұрын
No flashy edits, no useless padded infos, just the good stuff. Never change Kyle.
@cryobyte33
@cryobyte33 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching! I'm just here to present the information, and I don't want to detract from it. Aside from trying to improve retention and make a few jokes, I'll be standing strong 😁
@ToPsYkR3Ts
@ToPsYkR3Ts Жыл бұрын
I can’t believe we’re in a world where we’re able to customize our handheld gaming computers. What a time to be alive.
@koammudo43
@koammudo43 5 ай бұрын
I never get used to it I've been mind blown from gamepass in my phone for 2 yrs just got my steam deck and it's insane . 🤯. I've learned so much lol .
@maniacaudiophile
@maniacaudiophile Жыл бұрын
Thank you for these tests... Unlike a certain KZfaqr that just screamed "higher temp bad" a while back, you did some great work looking into it. Amazing work!
@rbdunne
@rbdunne 11 ай бұрын
Because of your video I also bought the Honeywell pad and the JSAux backplate. Its crazy how quiet the deck is now! Thank you so much! (Especially for cryotools!)
@GMMReviews
@GMMReviews Жыл бұрын
I just got my Vented JSAUX backplate today, and WOW the difference is instantly noticable! Any graphically intensive game would be loud as hell, but now it's super quiet, and GPU and CPU didn't go over 70c the whole time! Well worth the $30, was super easy to install too, highly recommended 👌 Thanks for this super informative video, never would have found this was it not for your awesome content 👍
@cryobyte33
@cryobyte33 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for watching and for trying out the backplate! It's been a huge change in daily usability and I'm glad that you're getting the same results that I am 😁
@MichaelCaruso13
@MichaelCaruso13 Жыл бұрын
Geebus this video was great. We had so my opinions and "I think this or that" in the community and now finally we have this glorious comprehensive test that told us a LOT. Thank you Cryo for another amazing set of tests.
@cryobyte33
@cryobyte33 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the kind words! I also noticed that there wasn't anything really solid out there so I wanted to do my part 🙂
@dillondetres8341
@dillondetres8341 Жыл бұрын
Finally the Monoblock! I’m using the old jasaux backplate, new paste, monoblock and Fantastic from Decky. Temps are great with the custom fan curve. The monoblock with the back plate moves a ton of heat but boy does it get hot! Looking forward to the next video!
@cryobyte33
@cryobyte33 Жыл бұрын
I can't wait to test it, thank you so much for watching!
@aolvs1950
@aolvs1950 Жыл бұрын
Watching this made me think I've seen this type of presentation. Then it hit me. YOU ARE THE GAMERSNEXUS OF STEAMDECK
@cryobyte33
@cryobyte33 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for the very kind comparison! I love Steve's work and I aspire to be similar in some ways, but then improve in others 😁 Hopefully I'll be able to get a little more than just Steam Deck content sometime too 😉
@aolvs1950
@aolvs1950 Жыл бұрын
Tech jesus 2.0!!! 👊
@tonyh2596
@tonyh2596 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for confirming that I made the right choice to replace the thermal paste with ptm7950 when I replaced my thumb sticks last month! Now I have a reason to get a backplate. 😁 Oh and I'm excited about the results of that monoblock! Keep up the good work!
@cryobyte33
@cryobyte33 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching, I can't wait to test it and share the results! 😁
@charlestaylor8344
@charlestaylor8344 Жыл бұрын
Jesus i literally was looking into this myself. Thanks man for always releasing that perfect video at the right time
@cryobyte33
@cryobyte33 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for watching! I'm glad I could help a bit 😁
@xamindar
@xamindar Жыл бұрын
His name isn't Jesus.
@mr_kraabs6951
@mr_kraabs6951 Жыл бұрын
🔥 hope you're settling in well mate, loving the content!
@cryobyte33
@cryobyte33 Жыл бұрын
Haven't moved back yet, but thank you!
@TheDarKris
@TheDarKris Жыл бұрын
I have the OG JSAUX Backplate and I also did a repaste but after watching this video I bought the thermal pad as well as the new jsaux backplate. My temps on my OC Deck have been basically always in the 80s so seeing those temps drop will be greatly appreciated
@cryobyte33
@cryobyte33 Жыл бұрын
Agreed, the stock thermal system is great but not quite up to a good OC. Thank you for watching!
@bruhwhirl
@bruhwhirl Жыл бұрын
Would you consider making a follow up video on this when used in the long run? As you stated, there *could* be issues with removed airflow to other components, but it's probably impossible to tell in such a short amount of time. Would be interesting to see how or if it changes with time.
@cryobyte33
@cryobyte33 Жыл бұрын
I might be able to later, but I might be doing other mods in the meantime so it'd be hard to isolate changes. What I can tell you, though, is that: 1. I tested VRMs, ICs, the SSD and the RAM for temperatures with the vented backplate and saw less than 1 degree difference from the stock backplate 2. A lot of air still gets taken in through the rear vent, even with the vented backplate. Hopefully this alleviates some of your concerns, thank you for watching!
@bruhwhirl
@bruhwhirl Жыл бұрын
@@cryobyte33 Thank you so much for taking time to respond! I ordered a backplate now, I understand it's at my own risk but I feel at ease now, regardless of how it goes
@jhooGs
@jhooGs Жыл бұрын
@@cryobyte33 would this less than 1 degree difference in internal components be enough to cause some kind of damage?
@cryobyte33
@cryobyte33 Жыл бұрын
@@jhooGs Nope, not by any stretch of the imagination! You'd likely need a 8C+ difference over a long period, or 15C+ in the shorter term to make a significant difference of any sort.
@lordb3655
@lordb3655 14 күн бұрын
Just want to thank you for being thorough with this video. Really appreciate the time and effort you put in!
@riveraluciano
@riveraluciano Жыл бұрын
I still haven't bought my SD, but will in a month. These videos are gold for enthusiasts like me who like to min-max every bit of hardware they got. I've already bookmarked the products you've linked and will be buying them first thing. Thanks a lot!
@Orogenesis
@Orogenesis Жыл бұрын
New Deck owner and new arrival to your channel. Thanks for all your hard work and pleasant demeanor Kyle!
@cryobyte33
@cryobyte33 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching, I hope the videos help out!
@matthewhaworth5935
@matthewhaworth5935 Жыл бұрын
I know you just did all this work and seriously thank you, but I'd love to see some of data for TG's new kryosheet also. That is what I'm running on both my ally and deck and from some rough testing it seems to be performing quite a bit better than stock pastes for both and even the kryonaut extreme I had on the deck prior. People like you shouldering the extreme time investment and hard work to not only do all the testing but consolidate and present it to the community really drives everything forward and makes everyone's lives easier. THANK YOU
@cryobyte33
@cryobyte33 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for watching, and for the recommendation! I can't order any more products while I;m still here in Sweden, but I'll try to order it after I'm back in to US and do another cooling test video 😉 I'm really happy I was able to help a bit, hopefully it won't be too long before I can follow-up!
@TheTheShizzler
@TheTheShizzler Жыл бұрын
To be honest, I don't follow this account, I've never seen another of his videos, I don't even have a Steam Deck, and I just accidently came across here. I'm strangely intrigued and thoroughly enjoyed the effort and thought process of this video. Keep up the good work dude!
@jompkins
@jompkins Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video! Some dB(A) info for you: - This measurement is on a logarithmic scale - Every 10 dBA is equivalent to a doubling of sound pressure. - Example: 2.7dBA is NOT 2.7x louder - that's closer to 30% louder IF measuring the exact same tone. - Example: an 80 dBA sound is 4X "louder" than a 60dBA one. This is the difference between a normal conversation face to face and a movie theater. - dBA is a measure of sound pressure - not necessarily perceived volume, and: - Higher frequencies will generally sound much louder to us than lower ones at the exact same dBA measurement.
@cryobyte33
@cryobyte33 Жыл бұрын
I knew about the logarithmic scale and the frequency thing, but not the rest, thank you so much for explaining! I'll screenshot your comment and be sure to follow up with more research where needed, I appreciate it! ❤️
@chrispetersen9159
@chrispetersen9159 Жыл бұрын
The most comprehensive cooling video to date. Thank you for sharing all of this information!
@cryobyte33
@cryobyte33 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for watching, I hope you liked it!
@f.ferenc88
@f.ferenc88 2 күн бұрын
Thank you very much for taking time doing all this work!
@maxprescott3787
@maxprescott3787 11 ай бұрын
Man, dont think ive ever done this before but ...subscribed, hit the bell, dropped a like and even commenting. Amazing content. Thank you for the time you dedicated putting this all together.
@markkocsicska2590
@markkocsicska2590 Жыл бұрын
I've had a conversation about theoriticals of this like an hour before you uploaded the video. I never expected to get my answers so fast. Thank you for the hard work!
@cryobyte33
@cryobyte33 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for watching, and I'm happy to put some researched information out there!
@trooper420wSw
@trooper420wSw Жыл бұрын
another piece of top-notch content as usual! your dedication to thorough and fair testing is admirable, thank you so much for all of your hard work :) this info is very valuable and i'll definitely be considering purchasing at least one of these products in the future!
@cryobyte33
@cryobyte33 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching, I'm happy to have helped a bit and I hope you at least know all the implications of whichever choice you go with 🙂
@inmypaants
@inmypaants 11 ай бұрын
Have ordered the JSAUX new backplate, thanks for taking the time to test and also compile the info.
@cryobyte33
@cryobyte33 11 ай бұрын
Thank you for watching, I hope you like it as much as I have!
@Nick_Jarrett
@Nick_Jarrett Жыл бұрын
A lot of information gathered and collated, you can tell this video took time and effort, have a thumbs up 👍
@daleadams6097
@daleadams6097 Жыл бұрын
Dude how do you not have over 1 million subs. I'm relatively new to your channel and from all I've watched. I've come up with nothing but amazing content. Plus, your download I installed on my deck is freaking sweet! Thank you man!
@cryobyte33
@cryobyte33 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for the kind words! I'm trying to get there, hopefully some day 🤞 Oh, and thank you for using CU as well!
@K-Kil
@K-Kil 27 күн бұрын
great video! I have the old jsaux backplate. I slapped a blue anodized heatsink on it with a thermal pad and nothing gets too hot to touch. I have not overclocked. Sometimes the fans don't even run. That is when accessible parts get the warmest, but not hot enough to trigger the fan. I can even feel warmed air coming from the top vent on pure convection sometimes .
@fieryfirevivin
@fieryfirevivin Жыл бұрын
LEGENDARY. AMAZING WORK KYLE. steam deck optimization is a very hot topic. No pun intended
@cryobyte33
@cryobyte33 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for the kind words, and for watching! I think the Deck is great because we can do so much with it, and it's my favorite device as a result 😁
@isocle
@isocle Жыл бұрын
Amazing and thorough as always, super glad to see someone scientifically conduct testing of the PTM7950 with respect to burn in and thoughtful application. Cheers!
@CosmicApe
@CosmicApe 3 ай бұрын
While dropping ~5C is definitely awesome. This just goes to show you how well designed the Steam Deck is from the get go. Valve really has some amazing engineers on this product.
@duckboss8303
@duckboss8303 Жыл бұрын
Excited for the new content as always man!
@cryobyte33
@cryobyte33 Жыл бұрын
Hey man, welcome back! Hopefully you like it!
@duckboss8303
@duckboss8303 Жыл бұрын
I absolutely love your content man. No other content creator I know of does such extensive and useful testing as you do for the steam deck. Keep up the great work as always, and I wish you the best going forward 😁.
@Evercade_Effect
@Evercade_Effect Жыл бұрын
I was geeking out over this and I enjoy the detailed testing that you do.
@justintefft
@justintefft 10 ай бұрын
very detailed and thoughtfully done. I'm thinking about the Noctua Paste and the Honeywell heat pad for sure.
@blade8424
@blade8424 5 ай бұрын
Didn't know you could replace the fans and thermal paste. Good to know. :) Saving video for future reference. Ty. :)
@MyBrokenStuff
@MyBrokenStuff Жыл бұрын
Great video! While delivering lots of data it's tricky to balance droning on forever and keeping the video moving. You nailed it. Huge thanks!
@thegrumpygamer3081
@thegrumpygamer3081 Жыл бұрын
Wow, that was one technical video that I don't normally watch and didn't really need to watch, but watched it to the end. Just love the Deck and what it can do.....Gaming has come a long way since the ZX 48K spectrum where I started. Love the utility by the way.
@gruskoda8511
@gruskoda8511 Жыл бұрын
That warning for taking your morning coffee before working on your steam deck is REAL folks! I just did the JSAUX backplate mod last week and of course - forgot to remove my microSD card. It snapped in half leaving the rest of the card completely stuck in there and I only made it worse trying to use tweezers to remove. Luckily I have a 1TB SSD so won't be needing the microSD card slot...but a huge bummer nonetheless. Anyways - excellent video as always Kyle. Thank you!
@inudesu5572
@inudesu5572 2 ай бұрын
I live in the desert. (AZ) It's usually no cooler than 80°F in my home. Currently have the old metal plate Jsaux that is effing HOT! I used these links to get the new back and the Honeywell pad. Liked, subscribed, and will look into your patreon.
@TheNets
@TheNets Жыл бұрын
That's insane. You are already creating material at the Gamer Nexus level. I hope all the best with the channel and the new life in the US.
@cryobyte33
@cryobyte33 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for watching, and for the kind words! I hope to continue getting better and expanding the channel 😁
@Quagula
@Quagula Жыл бұрын
something i use that you may want to check out is a graphene thermal pad. it goes over the gpu and is pretty thin. beats putting paste way deep in there.
@cryobyte33
@cryobyte33 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the recommendation, too! I've had one before, but I'll need to wait until I'm back in the US to get another. We'll see 😉
@christofferainek
@christofferainek 11 ай бұрын
Just wanted to drop by and add my voice to the choir. I also changed to the Honeywell pad and jsaux backplate. This, together with a cryobyte-undervolt and a fan replacement changed my deck from “pretty damn annoying” to quiet and amazing. I’m extremely satisfied with these upgrades. The pad was a pain to install, but indeed worth the effort. Thnx for all your amazing guidance 👌
@RFerreira2009
@RFerreira2009 7 ай бұрын
What fan did you get? Also, what is the honeywell thing..?
@discedunt2928
@discedunt2928 Жыл бұрын
Again, an amazing and incredibly helpful video! Thank you so much! If it's not too basic for your channel, I'd absolutely love to see a video about how to find the perfect settings for any game on Steam Deck to guarantee steady FPS, maximise battery life while still having a decent gaming experience. I do know the basics but I have a hard time finding playing around with all the options the Steam Deck provides. Maybe with an explanation of what which feature does so viewers can easily transfer this to any game they want to play. Keep up your amazing work!
@cubone285
@cubone285 11 ай бұрын
Incredible break down! Prepping for an eventual Deck purchase and this channel is a gold mine.
@kris2501100
@kris2501100 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the insights. I’d like to add 2 cents to it. The stock backplate isn’t that great in terms of thermal design. Warmer air has higher static pressure. Stock plate has intake vent right above the silicon cover, which is heating up the air and causing elevated pressure that will hinder cool air from flowing into the chasis. That’s why fan speed has to go much higher to counter that effect to keep air flowing into the chasis. I think the best backplate will be a vented cover with metal plate exposed for magnet peltier cooler.
@northernassassin6056
@northernassassin6056 8 ай бұрын
Just got a 512gb OLED SD and have been loving your channel. I can't wait to hear your thoughts and modding recommendations on the OLED deck. Keep up the great work.
@brianthompson646
@brianthompson646 Жыл бұрын
Very great videos, I plan on getting the JSAUX clip on fan to deal with the higher temps related to overclocking, can't wait to receive it.
@SpartanCE117
@SpartanCE117 Жыл бұрын
Great Work Kyle! Keep it up. Was a bless to watch and match my Modding Experiences ;)
@cryobyte33
@cryobyte33 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for watching, I'm glad to have helped out!
@sonicpelaaja
@sonicpelaaja 6 ай бұрын
I have the Delta fan but never found it bothering me since I always cap the fps/ screen refresh. I finally changed the backplate (vented) and thermal paste to NT-H1 and what a difference in noise! The fan is barely audible most of the time. I wish there weren't so many fake PTM7950 sellers out there. I'm happy with the Noctua paste for now. Thank you for your hard work!
@ElementalTJ
@ElementalTJ Жыл бұрын
I've got the old JSAUX backplate. Going to get the recommended thermal pad and new backplate. Thanks so much!
@RevansMinion
@RevansMinion 2 ай бұрын
Fan-freaking-tastic content man. I look forward to more
@LikeAGoon
@LikeAGoon Жыл бұрын
Great breakdown man, Thank you. I just ordered a deck and will be exploring your recommendations.
@BrianJones-wk8cx
@BrianJones-wk8cx Жыл бұрын
Brilliance, as always!!! Thank you for digging in and going the extra mile(s) on this (and all of your content, for that matter)!!! While I’m not in the market for any of these items, I love seeing the analysis. Also enjoying all the playful post-production touches, keep up the great work!
@cryobyte33
@cryobyte33 Жыл бұрын
I'm just glad to put solid numbers out there for those interested. It's hard to find real data that isn't published by a specific company 🙂 I spent a LOT more time on editing this time around, so I'm really happy some have noticed!
@233kosta
@233kosta 11 ай бұрын
The burst speeds make sense. Better thermal contact with the heatsink creates better coupling, resulting in APU temps closer mirroring the regular heat soaking of the heatsink.
@ardendolas
@ardendolas Жыл бұрын
Epic vid! I was interested in getting one of those new backplates, and this convinced me fully. Now I’m also considering getting the thermal pads too!
@cryobyte33
@cryobyte33 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching and commenting! I'm happy that I could answer a few questions for you and hope that you enjoy them as much as I have!
@warpathh
@warpathh 6 ай бұрын
It would be awesome if you did a Steam Deck OLED thermal mod including re-introducing thermal pads, thermal plate mod (to accommodate the pads contact), and PTM9750 APU instead of thermal paste, and the JSAUX back!
@cryobyte33
@cryobyte33 6 ай бұрын
I haven't heard of the thermal plate mod, could you send an email with a link to the address on my about page? Thank you!
@warpathh
@warpathh 6 ай бұрын
@@cryobyte33 the new thermal plate on the OLED unit has an insulating layer, and cut-outs in it for where the thermal pads from the heat pipe touch the metal plate. You’d have to cut the black insulation plastic layer wherever a thermal pad touches. The new OLED model doesn’t have thermal pads on most components now… It’s a cost cutting measure. You’ll see it if you look at the Gamer Nexus teardown to see what I mean.
@Redoxeon
@Redoxeon Жыл бұрын
This is exactly what I've been wanting to see. Jsaux posted tests that only covered the internal temps of the APU, where my main concern was the components not cooled with the heat pipe.
@cryobyte33
@cryobyte33 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching! I'm glad that I could provide solid third party results 😁
@stevesquick92
@stevesquick92 Жыл бұрын
I’m curious as to how the KingPin paste would perform. Very thorough and informative video, thank you! I’ll be keeping the stock backplate but I think I’ll move up to the thermal pad 👍🏼
@arranjaundrill3951
@arranjaundrill3951 7 ай бұрын
This was really comprehensive and a great deciding factor for me. Thanks
@PopCultureGamers
@PopCultureGamers 3 ай бұрын
In terms of the clip on fan from Jsaux which is only compatible with the stock backplat, I purchased two different versions of this, there is a kickstand built into the foot of the clip on fan which allows you to stand it. Also, there is a version which does not require the clip from Jsaux and is sold seperately as part of the ModCase, but it includes a metal stick on connector that also gives you the latch from the ModCase which lets you add other ModCase components (but not at the same time). I also tried PTM7950 and that was a total bust, in fact in some cases it made my Steam Deck hotter and definately made the standard case back a lot warmer. Maybe it depends on what model of Steam Deck you are testing on and if Valve used different paste in construction.
@deathskull77
@deathskull77 Жыл бұрын
Finally the new jsaux backplate reviews are coming out. Thanks so much for your detailed videos. I'm testing out a devaso backplate that has a metal plate attachment for a thermoelectric fan. Similiar to the jsaux magnetic fan but bigger
@cryobyte33
@cryobyte33 Жыл бұрын
I hadn't heard of that backplate, I'll try to check it out! Thank you for watching and I hope the results help you out 🙂
@spookysack
@spookysack Жыл бұрын
Excited for the Monoblock video! It will be the deciding factor in modding my Deck.
@Dadspicable
@Dadspicable Жыл бұрын
Thanks for all the hard work you did. I’d probably buy the vented back plate and the ptm sheet
@Gameplayer70
@Gameplayer70 Жыл бұрын
I had already ordered the new backplate, but you talked me into getting the thermal pad also!
@werethless12
@werethless12 Жыл бұрын
I'd like to see the temps of the charging IC and the SSD with the new Jsaux backplate. That extra cent hole probably hurts those way more than it helps the APU
@cryobyte33
@cryobyte33 Жыл бұрын
I actually did test the VRMs, SSD, RAM and ICs (and mention it in the concerns section), they were within 1 degree of stock and gave me no reason to worry whatsoever 🙂 The fan still pulls air through the back vent and the metal plate also contacts the heatsink (which is getting better cooling). Thanks for watching, I hope this helps!
@RetroWaveArcades
@RetroWaveArcades Жыл бұрын
@@cryobyte33 apricides for video but I must ask - how you measured temps of IC, SSD, VRMs and battery? I heard yours concerns but I have mine as well kzfaq.info/get/bejne/hMuBe8KQvbzFZmg.html With this hole above fan I treat this backplate like there is no backplate at all because negative airflow is interrupted. I wonder what temps of battery are at your tests while gaming with docked deck.
@cryobyte33
@cryobyte33 Жыл бұрын
@@RetroWaveArcades While negative airflow is interrupted, it still pulls a ton of air through the back plate. The fan can pull quite a bit more air than normally gets to it. As for the temperatures, I used the "sensors" command for SSD and motherboard temperatures, spot checked with the other results I gathered from MangoHUD, and checked. The ICs and VRMs were a bit more difficult. I used a thermocouple temperature sensor wired through the back vent to measure the surface temperatures, and verified its accuracy with a backplate-off IR thermometer test. GN does really good work, and I want to make it clear that I'm not trying to argue with Steve's results. All I know is that I did the best I could to to verify that this would be safe for long-term use. 🙂
@kyzous
@kyzous Жыл бұрын
Excellent video, the data really is helpful to inform my purchase. Nobody else is making these kind of videos, huge props to you.
@cryobyte33
@cryobyte33 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for the kind words and for watching! I'm just happy to help 🙂
@anthonycampos7417
@anthonycampos7417 Жыл бұрын
I bought the Honeywell pad and installed it on my GPD win 4. Glad these tests are further proof it actually is doing its job.
@mickw1523
@mickw1523 6 ай бұрын
I recently fitted the 'old' jsaux back plate. I removed the thermal pad prior to installing the shell.. I wasn't after a shell to cool the deck down, more for the looks, since I opted for a transparent purple back plate. I don't notice any difference in temps... but now I feel that I maybe shouldn't of removed the thermal pad.. The reason I removed it, because I heard that the pad actually blocks the air from passing from the vent at the back to the fan.
@WaveIan
@WaveIan Жыл бұрын
You rock! This is super helpful information. I am stock right now but despite the tentative concerns on the new jsaux backplate, I am tempted to go that route with the PTM solution as well. I may never fully OC my deck, but I'm tempted knowing the headroom those two upgrade paths provide. Thanks for the work that you do, and I wish I could afford to support you on Patreon.
@CapsuleCorpDude
@CapsuleCorpDude 11 ай бұрын
Need that clip on fan. Honestly I had one of those jet airplane ps4s so I’m sure the noise won’t be anything crazy lol.
@TheBlueDraenei
@TheBlueDraenei Жыл бұрын
Removing bottlenecks on my steam deck? Within reasonable price without replacing a huge amount of interior hardware? You got yourself a sub my friend!
@koammudo43
@koammudo43 5 ай бұрын
I didn't realize I could fully optimize my game through the settings I'm new to steam deck . I turned on everything to ultra high for rdr2 ,days gone, and horizon zero dawn. It was amazing lol
@koammudo43
@koammudo43 5 ай бұрын
I turned it back down ultra high and high sometimes don't have a difference lol
@DeadExplorer
@DeadExplorer Жыл бұрын
Fantastic video! Definitely gonna get the vented backplate when I get a steam deck.
@andrebrait
@andrebrait Жыл бұрын
For direct die application, one paste that for some reason people don't bring up that often, but it's likely one of the very best, is the Prolimatech PK-3.
@cryobyte33
@cryobyte33 Жыл бұрын
I actually haven't heard of that! I'll need to check it out when I get back to the US, thanks for watching and for the recommendation 🙂
@Frencho9
@Frencho9 Жыл бұрын
Jsaux new backplate with thermal pad and fan intake vent looks promising especially if you want a quieter Steam Deck, but I'm worried it cools down the APU better but removes airflow to other critical components like SSD, ddr ram memory dies, voltage regulators, battery and other components that might get too hot now and fail earlier!
@cryobyte33
@cryobyte33 Жыл бұрын
I mention that concern near the end of the video, but also mention that I watched all those temperatures and that they stayed identical and have given me no reason to worry about them 🙂 Thank you for watching, I'm glad it helped you out!
@brcosmin
@brcosmin Жыл бұрын
wondering if covering the circular fan intake with duct tape does anything to performance and temps of the SOC.@@cryobyte33
@jinx20001
@jinx20001 Жыл бұрын
when you think about it... its much like a normal desktop pc right... the only components that typically get direct contact cooling with fan assistance or water cooling are the gpu and cpu with some motherboards getting a fan on the chipset but its often not required. everything else will have a smaller heat sink that is cooled passively, as long as that original opening is not blocked then even with the fan being open to get its air supply it should still drag air in from the original opening, i just dont see it being an issue, all components should get adequately passively cooled.
@jeremiahjohnson2784
@jeremiahjohnson2784 Жыл бұрын
I'm curious how loud ur deck runs. I have no issues whatsoever with fan noise
@user-dn7yw7ee5t
@user-dn7yw7ee5t 9 ай бұрын
I bought the new jsaux, but was on the hunt 4 the first gen with metal plate. After seeing this video. God im happy i went for the new. Really good video 😁
@lgroves336
@lgroves336 11 ай бұрын
great job ! Honeywell PTH7950 Thermal Pad - size needed to cover CPU 13mmX13mm
@naomarik
@naomarik Жыл бұрын
Great video! I didn't know jsaux made a new backplate. I just received and installed the old one about an hour before this video came and temps are night and day difference for me. Before 20w overclock would instantly go to 95C within seconds and maxed fans. Now after 10 mins it hovers around 89-90C.
@cryobyte33
@cryobyte33 Жыл бұрын
They didn't advertise it very well, but I'm really happy they did. If the old one wasn't so hot it'd be easier to recommend 😅 Thanks for watching!
@gaber.4007
@gaber.4007 Жыл бұрын
I ordered the pad, going to keep using original back plate for now. If nothing happens while using vent plate then I'll upgrade to it. Thanks for all your hard work.
@First_Grafter
@First_Grafter 11 ай бұрын
This video is exactly what I was looking for and so so much more, thanks a ton!
@paolo705
@paolo705 10 ай бұрын
Today I've tested the undervolt settings on the 118 bios, I'm on -30 cpu, -40 gpu, -50 soc, any higher I would start to see corruption/random shut downs. I stress tested with Doom eternal (raytracing, low resolution, low settings), with a 4k video running on the background (gpu at 99%, cpu at 95% average), and also with mprime (for ram, altough I used "blend" option). My termals were pretty good already, as I'm rocking the old jsaux plate and that does already some good job at lowering the temps, but noticed the new backplate that you showcase in the video.I decided to make a hole in the superior part, where the top of the fan would be, the hole is about 70 x 200 mm, and my temperatures have gone down by 2-3 ºC compared to the unmodified old backplate, fan speed lowered about 600 rpm. The way I cut the backplate is by warming up a cutter and a lot of pacience, it definitely doesn't look clean but pretty functional, thanks for your videos.
@conza1989
@conza1989 Жыл бұрын
Dude as soon as you said 50 hours I had to comment, thank you, in advance!
@conza1989
@conza1989 Жыл бұрын
Great video, watched the entire thing, I do have a comment about the backplate though. I'd be interested to know if it could be resealed, how it would perform then in comparison to the stock plate. The negative pressure you point out, according to Gamer's Nexus, that allows area to be pulled over the battery circuit which if it doesn't do that, may be long term implications and could cause damage due to running at higher, possibly out of spec temperatures. If the newer backplate's, fan vent, was sealed, you may get the best of both worlds, and address the dust and noise concerns. Worth considering for sure - looking forward to the block testing :)
@MikuCobraCole
@MikuCobraCole Жыл бұрын
I need more guidance about putting thermal pads on the steam deck since I can't follow the process due to editing (and because I'm a noob 😅) did you put a thermal pad on the valve chip too? An installation guide would be helpful 🙏 Which size did you buy those thermal pad?
@cryobyte33
@cryobyte33 Жыл бұрын
I put the pad only on the heat spreader, which the contacts the APU that you're speaking of. It's really easy, just treat it like thermal paste using iFixIt's guide 🙂 Thank you for watching!
@carmenandcasey
@carmenandcasey 11 ай бұрын
Didn’t skip a single second. Definitely subscribing after this!
@yesterdaysjam2405
@yesterdaysjam2405 Жыл бұрын
Installed the vented backplate on my delta fan deck, and also added the clip on fan. Deck runs cooler and the little leg on the clipon fan does work well as a stand. It's not fallen over, surprisingly.
@mobilechaosyt
@mobilechaosyt Жыл бұрын
I was thinking about getting the PTM7950 and new JSAUX backplate, but was concerned what the actual games were. This video definitely helps make my decision easier. I might just get the backplate and use some thermal paste I already have. Don’t want to setup the PTM7950 if it is all going to come out for a p3r. FYI I saw Salocin900 posted a video of an updated Steam Deck which has different mounting screw locations for the heat pipe. Might be an issue for the p3r if Valve has significantly changed the design.
@johnboy2436
@johnboy2436 8 ай бұрын
whats a p3r? Would like to know what you mean as im thinking of ordering the thermal pads but have some mx6 paste here? Cheers
@detroitfinedining
@detroitfinedining Жыл бұрын
This is exactly the video I was looking for! Thank you!
@SeesSean
@SeesSean 5 ай бұрын
Your dedication to your test earned my sub! i hope you keep it up brother man.
@peaceka
@peaceka 9 ай бұрын
I was about to buy the vented jsaux backplate but hesitated because of those concerns about the airflow that could potentially harm the other components in the long term tho, it's a cool informative video as always thanks
@joefei707
@joefei707 10 ай бұрын
Dude I've bought the old back plate. Wish I'd seen this before. Thanks
@DoarAdrian
@DoarAdrian Жыл бұрын
thank you for this extensive testing ... incredibly insightful
@cryobyte33
@cryobyte33 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching and being subscribed! I hope it helps you choose what's right for you!
@mrdrissou_
@mrdrissou_ Жыл бұрын
This is impossible to be more clear. Congratulations 🎉
@jaredodicio
@jaredodicio Жыл бұрын
Could you test the game performance difference between a third party launcher like Heroic Launcher vs owning it natively on Steam?
@dinglebop9998
@dinglebop9998 10 ай бұрын
Audio engineer here. With the acoustic measurements in the A weighting (which refers to how the volume of sound reacts to what we here, as we hear different frequencies at different perceived volumes), a 3dB difference is twice the acoustic energy - audio is measured on a logarithmic scale so it would be perceived as a small increase in sound, but the "2.7dB increase," for example, is not 2.7 times louder. It is less than twice as loud, but would be perceived as a small increase in volume.
@cryobyte33
@cryobyte33 10 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for the explanation, I clearly have some more learning to do 🙂
@pillowpalace6424
@pillowpalace6424 11 ай бұрын
Biggest Respect to staying real and honest ❤
@Wugti
@Wugti Жыл бұрын
that was great man, you put a lot of work into this. instead of filling it with fluff and bullshit like most videos.
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