How Lucid makes a 2.5 ton EV go around corners like an M5!

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How Lucid makes a 2.5 ton EV go around corners like an M5!

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MotoMan sits down with the man that runs Chassis & Vehicle Dynamics at ‪@LucidMotors‬, David Lickfold, to learn how they make the 5,200 pound Lucid Air do what an M5 does around corners all the while carrying an 800 pound weight penalty and riding on a very basic suspension set up . . . turns out, the answer is less about cars and more about process & approach.
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@daviddahan3204 Жыл бұрын

David, I not only drove the car, I purchased it! The driving dynamics is amazing. Like many others, I put a reservation in early not certain if I was going to convert it to an order. I was one of the last persons to convert, still getting the legacy pricing and the $7,500 'rebate' that Lucid offered in April. I'm glad to have waited because there apparently was a rather steep learning curve Lucid went through during the first 10 months of production. Everything from the improved painting of the exterior to the redesign of the user interface brought the car along to what it is now - one of the best vehicles I've owned. Still not perfect, but with OTA updates, I'm optimistic it will get there. Whereas I usually hold on to vehicles for 5-7 years, it's likely I'll be holding on to this for (gulp!) 10-15 years. As long as the battery holds out, and the seats remain firm, this is a keeper. Keep the OTA updates coming! We love them!

@krrk6337 Жыл бұрын

As an ex-design engineer in a Japanese R&D company, this guy nailed it on many points. Old guys who set the rules 30 years ago retired and young guys kept following the rules without updating it. Your tech interviews are always on point!

@avery4528 Жыл бұрын

Outside of a Rolls Royce, this is probably the best executive passenger vehicle on the market. Hopefully their SUV will tackle the Escalade.

@avery4528 Жыл бұрын

@@iannealcole So the issue with the backseat is that there is no massage, heating, or ventilating and it doesn't recline?

@svrvegasblackops Жыл бұрын

This car is legitimately an engineering marvel. Whether it's the magically impressive range, the unheard of amount of storage space, the intuitive infotainment (barring the glovebox lol), the driving dynamics, the drag, the look of the car itself, the power. This car is just a winner through and through

@ruk2023-- Жыл бұрын

I have no involvement in car design but I do work in advertising and it's absolutely true in everywhere I have worked that there are a load of design rules that exist because they exist and nobody knows why they follow them.

@inaspot Жыл бұрын

What a classy, humble and inspiring person! Well done, David for not disparaging any other automaker and just focussing on Lucid. Well done Motoman for a beautiful interview. I was about to drop $$ for a brand new Tesla S Plaid - only because Lucid is not available here (in UAE). This interview has made we wait some more, until they can get to our shores.

@johnreed5056 Жыл бұрын

I own a Lucid Air Touring. Trust me there is a night and day difference between Model S and Lucid Air. You will get tired of Model S Plaid in the first 6 months. Lucid Air will make you smile for years to come.

@TalismanPHX Жыл бұрын

Zenith Red Lucid Air is absolutely stunning looking

@mikemaslanka3786 Жыл бұрын

Excellent interview and car!

@rapture2026roshhashanah Жыл бұрын

I test drove the car in Rocklin ca, still think about it often. Unforgettable experience.

@mgrmln 5 ай бұрын

That’s the thing about rules. They begin as something very important. But beyond people retiring and rules being less understood, is the fact that technology very often obliterates the rule entirely! Rules are slow to adapt to new information. People get stuck in their ways. What I find most refreshing about Lucid’s philosophy is that it puts the emphasis on creativity, engineering and innovation, without the legacy baggage. Look at the stunning result! I too purchased the product after driving it. I don't believe it's just the best EV. It might just be the best overall driving CAR out today.

@PaulCuenin 5 ай бұрын

Love Lucid and really hope they make it.

@douglasizzo Жыл бұрын

Insightful perspective. Thanks for having the chat with David, MotoMan!

@tr0nd15c 6 ай бұрын

Grand Touring + Zenith Red Metallic + Dolby Atmos Surround Sound = cannot wait to achieve my dream car. G*d Bless Peter Rawlinson for creating efficiency vs. elegance perfection.

@Miata822 Жыл бұрын

Feedback: Love my Air GT, driving for a year now. I spent a career designing special ventilation systems. You 100% need greater air volume into the cabin for pulldown and hot climates. Not saying to blow it at the occupants but to get volume exchange in the cabin. The key is high volume, modest velocity, with a moderate temperature drop. Especially for pull-down from heat soak getting exchange volume up will be critical. This will be an issue in Saudi. This can be addressed. I have tried to find a contact for engineering but was told by Derek to 'just post on social media.' I have been reluctant to do that until now, but I'm starting to hear more complaints from owners and reviewers. And for owners: Turn the rear air on, synch, and set blowers to Max for the quickest cool down. Leave rear air on in hot climates if you need. Yes, this will use a bit more energy but you have plenty to spare, right?

@richardmahoney9415 Жыл бұрын

I hope this video picks up more views bc maybe I’m a nerd but I found it super interesting and would love to see more of them in this format on top of your normal reviews

@MotoManTV Жыл бұрын

Thank you, Richard . . . the goal is to make these a bigger part of our show. One way to help make that happen is to share these episodes. Especially on Reddit and other socials as that is what drives traffic.

@Miata822 Жыл бұрын

To fill in the gap between episodes here the Lucid Motors channel on KZfaq has a series of Tech Talk videos presented by the engineers involved where they discuss technical aspects of the car's design in a detailed but conversational way.

@Cloxxki Жыл бұрын

I bet the size was chosen to flip the finger at Tesla and show what the packaging can be like, battling on a level playing fiield. Both Tesla Model S and Lucid Air are BEV, but Lucid offers more power, seating space, 3x the frunk, and of course more range and luxury. Al I wish, is for Lucid to come as a wagon. The 90 kWh wagon would WHIP the Mercedes EQE. The huge frunk where EQE has none. The ample rear boot, interior space, rear foot well (no cells under feet in the small battery Lucid), range. EQE then wins only with software and driving aids.

@ResumedPausing Жыл бұрын

I agree, I think the practicality of a station wagon, combined with the interior of a lucid air, can address a lot of the wants of typical SUV buyers (I e. Lots of interior space and practicality) while achieving the desired efficiency out of an EV

@Cloxxki Жыл бұрын

@@ResumedPausing They are making an SUV version on same or similar platform. Like Model X to Model S, I guess. Perhaps a tradition SUV boot with taller cabine does wonders. I like sitting high, but in EQS SUV it costs 100 km of range, so perhaps I'll just sit low then. The SUV's frunk might be next level huge, though. Ford Lightning like?

@krrk6337 Жыл бұрын

incoming Muskminions in 3...2...1

@Cloxxki Жыл бұрын

@@krrk6337 I think they've lost their bite, since Elon got involved in Twitter and pretending to be all about free speech. That really rubs the liberals the wrong way, the only speech allowed can be their narratives. Rest assured, Elon works for the WEF and won't let freedom get too normal, even hired a fully WEF-bred CEO already. Most of that flies over the Tesla warriors' head though, so they just feel betrayed by Elon and many of the most devoted ones are not making Rivian videos. They are part of Amazon to an extent, so liberal to da max.

@samikamal1 Жыл бұрын

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@rapture2026roshhashanah Жыл бұрын

Let's go 😀

@samikamal1 Жыл бұрын

@@rapture2026roshhashanah LET'S GOOOOOOOOOO THELORDISATHAND3963 TOGETHER AS ONE LUCID✨️ FAMILY ❤️ADDING ON AND HOLDING STRONG HOLD THE LINE EVERYONE STAY FOCUSED AND DISCIPLINE HARD WORK DEDICATION. 🙋‍♂️❤️🥳🥳🥳🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🕺🕺🕺😁😉👍

@jerrywarren2007 Жыл бұрын

I have owned a GT- Performance for about 10 months. I was concerned it would be a bit to wide for life in Chicago but the superb handling has kept that from being an issue. Ride quality is terrific. Lovely interior but being forced to accept 2 tones and no black carpet or light wood with a saddle leather choice is pretty stupid. Not as stupid as the 21 inch wheels, there is just not enough sidewall to allow these to be relied upon in real world conditions. Mine are in the basement collecting dust. The power and power delivery make the car a show.

@samuelgrinstead Жыл бұрын

Does the GT-P come with the 21" stock, or did they have to be optioned on?

@jerrywarren2007 Жыл бұрын

@@samuelgrinstead Stock with 21 inch, I couldn't order it any other way.

@samuelgrinstead Жыл бұрын

@@jerrywarren2007 Yeah, that's ridiculous. Not enough rubber. My car came with 16" and the base model comes with 15", but even then you could option 17". I've been trying to figure how to put 15" on mine, but there are clearance issues with the calipers and rear control arms. I've replaced 2 wheels hitting potholes already :-/.

@daves1646 Жыл бұрын

The current models from Lucid are not in my reach. That said, every review of a version of the Air is falling over itself complimentary (save residual s/w issues that are improving). I sincerely hope for a smaller nimble Lucid sedan, that will be within reach, because I AM intrigued by a company that has the triplet pulls of driving joy, quality, and efficiency ALL on the mandatory target at the same time. Looking forward to the next, smaller sedan!!

@MistahWorldwide Жыл бұрын

I test drove the Lucid Air, it was so nice and smooth to drive! I still think about it. My main issue was with the regen braking, not with one pedal driving though. When you let go of the accelerator the regen braking kicks in hard and it’s very jarring. I would like it to kick in smoother. Also, the electric motors sound like their grinding in parking lot speeds, they got to figure that out because that does not sound good

@Babyrocko1908 Жыл бұрын

You don't understand regen and how it's supposed to work. Lucid's regen is one of the best in the business. The motor noise isn't bad at all. Ask me how I know.

@elove7797 Жыл бұрын

Motoman, what you say about the taycan not “steering” through high speed turns makes absolutely no sense. As the owner of a taycan, along with 911s, AMGs, Ms, Cadillac Vs, Aston’s, McLarens, etc etc etc… I rate the taycan as one of the best driving, and steering, vehicles of any kind that I have sat behind the wheel of. Although I have never driven a lucid, I would be very surprised if it’s steering was even in the same league as the porsche.

@MrSchn3ll Жыл бұрын

Access to a company like this usually accompanies unrealistic platitudes. I have owned a Taycan as well and couldn't wait to sell it, doesn't even come close to the 911 experience in my opinion. Went from 991.2 to Taycan to 992.

@bmuns6445 Жыл бұрын

This company make great cars. But not enough to survive. Their talent, engineering is worth 10x revenue being the chosen power plants of big name automotive manufacturers. They could win La Man, they could be SO much more and make multiples of money being behind the scenes vs being in front.

@Cloxxki Жыл бұрын

I'd love to see someone taking the top BEVs, and stripping them down to the bare minimum, for track performance. Turn them into barely street legal track tools. EQS, EQE, Taycan Turbo S, Plaid, Air, i4, EV6 GT, etc. That's stage 1, for instance. Then have a suspension guru like Bilstein or Koni go nuts on adjusting everything to the now lower weight and track specific demand. Swap parts if needed. Now some capable racing slicks that can handle the heft and power. Can those slick body panels be replaced with racing style silhouette sheeting to save weight and maintain low drag? Next, what aero mods will help more on the downforce and cooling side, than hurt straight line efficiency?

@MotoManTV Жыл бұрын

Great idea that would require A LOT budget . . .

@Cloxxki Жыл бұрын

@@MotoManTV A lot for a person with a job. A pittance for someone involved in professional motorsports or funded tech startups.

@alamaiii Жыл бұрын

Gravity Gravity Gravity…

@MotoManTV Жыл бұрын

Here's Derek Jenkins, their Head of Design, and I discussing the Gravity . . . kzfaq.info/get/bejne/kKxdmrmKrre7iZc.html

@kb8570 Жыл бұрын

Great interview. It's a shame that Lucid is owned and controlled by Saudi Arabia. Saudi Arabia is preventing Lucid from growing.

@Cloxxki Жыл бұрын

Would the Lucid Air actually be fast around the track? I can see that it handles responsively, but can it generate cornering g-forces that are the key metric in what Porsche appears to do so well even in cars heavier than their competitors? Lucid Air is even heavier than Taycan Turbo S, but of course also has a lot more peak power. How does that all work on a 2 minute track outing, let along the 7.5-8 minutes on the Nordschleife testing grounds? Tesla Model S Plaid set a fast lap there, but it's actually a lot lighter than the Lucid, great system integration and Spartan interior, smaller battery than most Airs. Still, its tyres were HOWLING in corners under the weight transfer loads.

@Cloxxki Жыл бұрын

@@vickykennel7414 Explain that to the multi billion companies that pride themselves in making their cars lap faster than the competition, when really very few customers actually do track days or the like. Even Tesla, the dogooders brand, makes a real point of setting latimes with their planet saving miracles of modern higher ethical living...

@lowvaeater Жыл бұрын

kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qp16rLd90dfVaas.html

@lowvaeater Жыл бұрын

Fastest production car in the race, and its only Lucid 3rd fastest version of Air

@TonyTseng Жыл бұрын

It's not exactly a track, but Lucid Air did well during last year's Goodwood Hillclimb event: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/oL-aY92qmZ_XmHk.html

@phillyphil1513 Жыл бұрын

Q: Would the Lucid Air actually be fast around the track...? A: Sapphire says YES. okay next question.

@garyclark6747 Жыл бұрын

Is this design philosophy is what is being worked on for so many years with Gravity❓ Will there be a lower trim available at launch❓ 14:48

@bob808 Жыл бұрын

I have one MAJOR problem with the Lucid Air... they don't make it in RHD! :-p Seriously, it would be great to see them in Australia. Though I feel the prices would be astronomical after the shipping and our greedy Gov't taxes.

@MotoManTV Жыл бұрын

I see this changing but FIRST on Gravity . . .

@PD-nz5rk Жыл бұрын

I like the Lucid product. I am their target buyer. However I can’t support a company that’s heavily funded by the Saudi Royal family. Personal choice.

@patrickguev Жыл бұрын

Can I ask why ? Just curious

@pwmcnamara Жыл бұрын

The PIF owns a lot of companies. Do you boycott all of them?

@coloanainfinitului1987 Жыл бұрын

LuxUryCarIndeeD

@robertsestito6821 Жыл бұрын

Doesn't the m5 weigh like 2.25 tons?

@Kelveron Жыл бұрын

Lucid cars, owing to very high horsepower motors, are very fast indeed and they drive pretty well too. However, based the tests I've seen they do not go corners like an M5.

@MotoManTV Жыл бұрын

kzfaq.info/get/bejne/oryXd6uHy5_HY6c.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/r7Bjhq50x8XFiaM.html

@joetz1 Жыл бұрын

Listen to the people who have driven the car (such as myself). It’s almost as if almighty himself tuned the chassis

@ms4046 Жыл бұрын

I wish i have money to buy this car

@infernoking7504 Жыл бұрын

I can make my 1988 Lincoln town car go around a corner like a m5 it just won't be very elegant or fast🤣

@BGCGC1 Жыл бұрын

This company can’t sell cars. Look at their sales. Their management is not good either. All I see are videos about how amazing this car is yet sales very low.