I shot down 115 planes with my Iowa earlier. This is absolutely insane what's happening.
@corbanheerdink50832 ай бұрын
Accurate WW2 simulator game
@ibrahimmostafa54932 ай бұрын
Quick tip, you could put your def. AA on cooldown earlier by selecting your AA and secondary batteries off and then back on.
@CamMcCulls-kx6zk2 ай бұрын
As much as there has been hate for cvs in the past, the fact that you saw so few of them in battle compared to now should show how balanced they actually were. At least there was one on each side, so it was not like one had an advantage of spotting over the other. As long as the cvs were balanced in comparison to each other it was a fair match and down to the players. To me, they just need to roll the whole thing back and accept they made a mistake. I doubt that will happen though.
@FLYBOY4092 ай бұрын
Remember the game is not broken...the playerbase is😉
@Schmidthapnz132 ай бұрын
230 planes is insane
@whokinson53142 ай бұрын
Legendary needs to make a hilarious meme for you for the weekend.......
@JonnyBravo03112 ай бұрын
I thought for sure I'd be getting clear sky medals like candy on Halloween. So far playing at T7, I've had exactly two matches with CVs. One, the CV was on the other side of the map. The other the game ended in like 7 minutes as the reds lost all their points (seems our CV was a bit better than theirs) and only saw red planes twice. Though I did end up having one of the best games I've had in the NJ, so uploaded that video instead of the planned "look at how many planes I shot down" one :).
@whereruaaron2 ай бұрын
Yeah its been hit or miss for me
@danieldoherty56952 ай бұрын
Funny as hell 😂😂
@rutgervanwerdeify2 ай бұрын
It is a bit bonkers ( the new dutch voice-over) 😂
@jsl80822 ай бұрын
Lol historically Kaga only had 60 planes
@conner96392 ай бұрын
Don't worry, it only gets worse lmao. One day you might even get 2 in a match!
@infa22282 ай бұрын
230 planes, thats like a whole 4 CV fleet,
@Atomicpotato1022 ай бұрын
Well another proof that demonstrate how broken CV’s are on their current status. I regret buying the admiralty backing now I have to figure out how I’m gonna be able to accomplish the challenges on this CV pandemonium 😆
@mossyturtle37512 ай бұрын
As a carrier player, my 3 possible fixes to the carrier apocalypse are 1. Greatly reduced how many planes you get back 2. Greatly reduced damage you inflict 3. Rework torpedoes and bombs, increase range and arming range for torpedoes. (make them harder to use ) same with bombs increase range we can drop and decrease accuracy I think a good balance would be, you what to avoid AA your going to miss a alot you won't lose as many planes but your not stacking damage neither. Or get in close do damage but at cost of losing most of your aircraft. Other then that i like the rework to Spotting, fuel range, and payload increase Just my opinions😅
@whereruaaron2 ай бұрын
Those are decent solutions man, that would probably solve the issues
@tahzib14512 ай бұрын
in this tiny mobile game called Naval Creed the max hanger capacity belonged to Shinano with 63...Kaga had like 58...WoWS is making planes out of thin air if you are killing 200+ planes here
@whereruaaron2 ай бұрын
Yup...
@WhoDaresWinso72 ай бұрын
3:32 😂
@michellehenry87442 ай бұрын
I just managed to get a new damage recorded in this thing of 258 thousand. This ship is honestly fun and kinda broken in my opinion
@conqueror35692 ай бұрын
I haven't played the game for 4 months cause I have exams which I finish in 2 weeks and as a bb enjoyed this is my welcome?
@moonytheloony65162 ай бұрын
Why yes...yes it is your welcome. Welcome Back! and enjoy...
@conqueror35692 ай бұрын
@@moonytheloony6516 hahaha thanks lol
@aproudbaguette36052 ай бұрын
Still less planes than Yamato had to face xD pretty sure we're not far from 100 planes in one game
@whereruaaron2 ай бұрын
I've already seen 112 lol
@aproudbaguette36052 ай бұрын
@@whereruaaron daaammmnnn 🤣
@Potato-pl5cr2 ай бұрын
@@whereruaaronI got 115, 1 was a fighter, in a match earlier in my Iowa full AA build. I think it was a kaga as well
@whokinson53142 ай бұрын
Are you watching weegee?
@ilovedemocracyy2 ай бұрын
😂 no way you have to shoot down 6-7 squads of planes to deplane Kaga for a short time.
@romallama442 ай бұрын
That’s crazy. 180 through 10 minutes so taking away fighters over the last 5 minutes or so that’s maybe 250 planes a Kaga can put up in a 15 minute game? Does anybody know if the Kaga carried 250 aircraft? I don’t think the Kaga carried 250 aircraft. 250. That’s 6 clear skies medals… how many clear skies medals would it take to know the enemy CV was de-planed? 1 or 2? Even the rework of the medal doesn’t make sense
@romallama442 ай бұрын
Even the medals are fuckywucky :Ellis:
@whereruaaron2 ай бұрын
lol
@moonytheloony65162 ай бұрын
The actual (historic) Kaga could carry up to 60 planes. 1 video game Kaga could unleash the amount of at least FOUR historical Kaga's in a single match, as demonstrated in this video. So Wargaming basically quadrupled the air strike capability of the historical Kaga in this update, which explains the absurd damage output that would make Skynet green with envy.
@Kenhin2 ай бұрын
Absolutely ridiculous on WG part, like someone should be fucking fired for allowing this shit into the game. I mean they allowed Ark Royal into the game and look how that turned out, now let’s have everyone be Ark Royal.
@samutommimarchetti2 ай бұрын
Hi
@maas69272 ай бұрын
Wg Spread sheet? More like spread 💩
@depriest19932 ай бұрын
Was this before or after you swapped the BB commander off the build? You bot lol
@depriest19932 ай бұрын
Never mind, you self reported at the end. Bot self diagnostics must be working well
@jesusrjr77752 ай бұрын
I don’t get what you’re trying to test. The developers said they were gona make em harder to deplane, so more people would want to play CVs.
@whereruaaron2 ай бұрын
It's quite literally the title...lol
@jesusrjr77752 ай бұрын
@@whereruaaron well wouldn’t the number be infinite. It would be cool to have seen a stronger cv like the Saipan. Kaga has paper planes but has many of them to compensate.
@USS_END3VOR2 ай бұрын
All of them. However many that is
@whereruaaron2 ай бұрын
lol. 230
@MattttMan2 ай бұрын
The only flaw i see with this is counting fighters with the amount, strike planes only would be a better measure. Minimal difference but still
@whereruaaron2 ай бұрын
It was mentioned in the vid!
@MattttMan2 ай бұрын
@@whereruaaron my b, thanks for the time and video!
@animegamesmoviesandotherst30372 ай бұрын
Good test, but what is it like for the other nations for plane regeneration as, Kaga is and still is an airplane factory at sea and so is Hakuryu. Most who are saying plane regeneration is to high seem focused on Kaga and the Hakuryu. Until I see what the rest have it to soon to say nerf the regeneration for all CVs, Why most nations before this at tier 5-7 ran out of planes real fast at tier 6-Legendary good AA starts showing up more, so that was why to me this regen is like it is, and I hear many say but a Kaga put up 500k damage and its OP is this real has WG said anything? And if it is it still to soon to say OP, this player most likely is a CV main who is top tier, not to many like him, So I say wait to see how much damge is done by CVs this updat, and not let a few great CV players set the tone that now CVs are op, if we look at top players BBs damges most say op please nerf,
@whereruaaron2 ай бұрын
I mean that was the point...Kaga can produce the most
@moonytheloony65162 ай бұрын
I'm fairly certain that the historic Kaga could not hold 230 planes. So here's the 100,000 dollar question...what specifically would need to be addressed to stop the Skynet-Effect that is being experienced by CV's as of this update? Let me know how you would fix this. Smooth-Brain comments will be easily identified and dismissed by Moony, so do try to demonstrate that you can actually critically think.
@vincentthekeeper21632 ай бұрын
I think WW2 era max aircraft compliment was 50-60 planes not 250 😂
@whereruaaron2 ай бұрын
Reduce regen rate and damage output and maybe* a slight buff to AA but if you reduced damage and output that would probably be a very fair middle ground
@lobbyrobby2 ай бұрын
Facts don't care about you feelings? Are you Tom Mcdonald?
@whereruaaron2 ай бұрын
Nope, just someone who doesn't rely on feelings to dictate how a game should be balanced
@aliveRaptor29292 ай бұрын
Sooooooo broken soooooooooooo so so so so so broken busted!
@jacobbradford72292 ай бұрын
They need to remove the plane invincibility consumable, nerf carrier restoration time, hanger size, dropped bombs amount, and squadron size. They need to bring back catapult fighters and spotting planes hard spotting ships. And buff Ships AA fire. Carriers are suppose to be getting intel more than anything, instead of being a one man army. How did Wargaming ever think this update was a good idea?
@MattttMan2 ай бұрын
Mostly terrible suggestions that would just make more issues than solve
@ciroc_lobster40522 ай бұрын
Invincibility lmao that’s a new one
@jacobbradford72292 ай бұрын
@@MattttMan No, Carriers should be weak, very weak. They never should have been as powerful as they were pre-patch. Getting intel should be 90% for their job, not ruining the game by being able to get 500K damage games. Very few people play Carriers anyway, and it should stay that way. Only very highly skilled players should be able to do well in Carriers.
@MattttMan2 ай бұрын
@@jacobbradford7229 I can thank the good Lord that you're not a part of the balancing dept, too much passion with 0 logic
@jacobbradford72292 ай бұрын
@@MattttMan Well I'd still do better than you. Because we would need negative numbers to tell your logic rating.
@Scoupe4002 ай бұрын
There’s nothing wrong with increasing records, … and slightly overall higher scoring maybe what they’ve aimed to increase as a balancing measure. I suspect they’ve also aimed to increase player enjoyment. Statistics might tell them they’re under used. They’re very good at statistics and will most likely ignore the outlier crazy scores (to a point) and look at the average scores. And if average Joe is scoring higher than typical ships of that same tier then they’ll likely tweak stuff down. More importantly, they’ll also be looking to see how well received the new mechanics are. In this instance they need to get the current ‘high scores’ problem removed by a hot patch, allowing them to watch the next 5 weeks of feedback on the mechanics alone. Whilst they’ve thrown a tonne of planes and printing - again nothing wrong with that - I believe they’ve lowered the plane health. In an ideal world no (or not much) extra damage dealt by a CV. But they should recognise the plane deaths - by increasing the number you need for the Clear Sky ribbon. Much like the additional HE bombs, hopefully the fire chance statistic is reduced accordingly. It’s all tweakable.
@whereruaaron2 ай бұрын
Records are meant to be broken, not shattered day 1
@Scoupe4002 ай бұрын
I’ve not seen the numbers. So unaware of disparity. And it still stands. If the numbers were smashed, then indeed there’s a fault, but if the original intention was to *slightly* increase the effectiveness then the intention was maybe good - the execution is at fault. I say maybe, because maybe there was nothing wrong with CVs before the patch. But if there’s lacklustre usage, or off looking stats, then I wouldn’t be surprised at their attempt to tweak. That’s giving the benefit of doubt. I’d urge anyone to not take my original post as a defence to the patch, but more one of aiming to understand the patch intent and adjusting the aimed disgust. Again possibly mis-aimed hope that they’re well intentioned.
@Scoupe4002 ай бұрын
And to clarify. I’m totally open to learning and a big reason to tune into this channel is not only to learn but also a respect for what you convey. I’m new to the game since February. And aware I can come across a bit Sheldon direct, an eagerness to jump into the juicy interesting stuff. Thanks for the videos and opening debate.
@Scoupe4002 ай бұрын
@@whereruaaron well. I’ve tried them now, and I don’t find mechanics as enjoyable as before. It’s straight up, down, return. I’ve yet to try tier iii, but wouldn’t be surprised if it’s worse than tier V where getting to the other side of the map isn’t possible. So leaning your CV ship into the fray, only takes one bold cruiser or battleship to edge forward and delete the CV. Yet to test if full throttle doesn’t get you as far. The matches are very mixed, with very different approaches of avoiding the cv.
@sunquestenergyhomesolution962 ай бұрын
I refuse to put 100% blame for this mess on WG shoulders because a portion of the blame needs to be shared by CV haters who pushed for some of these changes. BE CAREFUL WITH WHAT YOU WISH FOR. What I will 100% blame WG for is trying to please everyone which is impossible and here we are.
@whereruaaron2 ай бұрын
I have no idea who these people who kept asking for changes were but sure
@sunquestenergyhomesolution962 ай бұрын
@@whereruaaron You're right it just fell out of the sky. Or a WG dev accidently dropped his keyboard and this mess materialized!
@whereruaaron2 ай бұрын
@@sunquestenergyhomesolution96WG has never and will never use player feedback to make significant balancing change’s
@sunquestenergyhomesolution962 ай бұрын
@@whereruaaron I believe that as far as I can throw it. Besides, can you define what determines a significant balance change?!?! A small seemingly insignificant change can accidently become significant and that's what I suspect, in part what happened with this update.
@moonytheloony65162 ай бұрын
You sound rather displeased with what you're seeing in the game regarding the CV changes. And you're blaming the "CV haters" for playing a significant role in influencing Wargaming's decision making. And you're asserting that Wargaming is trying to please everybody... On the latter assertion, really? The way Wargaming has gone about monetizing this game is demonstrable evidence that they are, as a company, not in the business of trying to please everybody. They are, like most companies, in the manipulation business because that is what makes money, not the other way around. Your claim that Wargaming isn't 100% to blame falls apart very quickly because it's their company. Their name is on their product, hence their decisions are final, not the "CV Haters" That's like shifting the blame away from a vehicle manufacturer who experiences a recall due to a defective part. Like Wargaming, they design their product, manufacture their product and sell it publicly hence they own it...and if their product has a defective part or mechanism, it's on them to fix it, hence they bear 100% of the responsibility. Which is why recalls are generally free of charge to the customer who owns the specific model in question. It's their fault, no one else's. Wargaming is no different. They have the final say in all updates that are approved. Period. Which is why Wargaming is 100% to blame for the poor implementation of the CV rework. They own that responsibility everytime, all of the time. You're making a claim in which you haven't met the Burden of Proof with demonstrable evidence. And if you are claiming that the existence of "CV Haters" and the results of the CV changes were heavily influenced by them because Wargaming is trying to please everybody, hence the CV Haters bear much if not all of the blame; then you're making a circular argument which is fallacious reasoning. It's on you to provide evidence that Wargaming specifically made these CV decisions based on "CV Hater" pressure, which would require you to conduct an internal investigation of Wargaming that would uncover how they arrived to their decisions regarding this specific CV update/rework. You don't have that evidence, my good man. And until ya do, ya haven't met the Burden of Proof regarding your claim. All you are right now is a bloke with a degree from Dunning-Kruger University.